I found out recently that the voice actor for wenduag also voices malady in divinity original sin 2 and also the narrator for baldurs gate 3. Very talented.

The fact minagho has absolutely 0 reaction to you dragging staunton all the way to the abyss to kill her actually hurt a lil, felt like a no brainer

"If I can kill her, why can't I romance her?" Truer words have never been said

I like that you include their personality, writing, dialogue, and voice acting. It really bums me seeing people who do game guides and completely gut out the artistic and narrative elements of the game to do it. You treat the party members like people and not units and it baffles me how rare that it is for guides in this genre.

"She gets larger. She becomes a full blown Dragon, allowing you to mount her. Aivu provides your only opportunity to mount a Dragon." I'll get my Bard...

Undead Champion felt more like an animal companion instead of a regular companion. Daeran's last loyalty quest has an ending where the inquisition lets him out on parole under your supervision.

I cant say im surprised that most of the Lich's compsnions that are bottom tier. I say this as a lich guy myself. I only wish that if they were silent with no dialogue, that they were also silent as they like to groans as if they're generic mindless undead.

Just a thought on Aivu: considering that dragons live for hundreds/thousands of years, their maturity stages are probably different. What maybe a long time for us humans maybe only be a fleeting moment in their lives. Take our own canine friends, most dogs are physically full sized by year 1-2, but are still considered puppies.

As someone who has done the Daeran romance a couple of times if you are playing a non-evil mythic path and pick the right dialogue choices and triggers then you can spare Liotr, Liotr lets Daeran go after you vouch for him and you get a good ending

Regill having no "personal" quest actually reflects his personality very well. He is just not bothered by any personal issues, he just doesn't give a shit and puts the success of the crusade above anything else, even himself. He is pure dedication and consideres himself and anyone else as just a tool for the greater cause

Even though my list would look a lot different, it’s always so much fun to see how other people would rank the companions! Great video!! Although I don’t think Camellia only fitting in to evil/neutral parties should be counted as a point against her. I think that makes her very distinct and forcing good characters to compromise a lot to keep her around makes things pretty interesting. I really love all of the main companions and I hope OwlCat expands on them in future DLC. The dungeon crawls are fun but the companions are what really makes this game for me.

Just a minor clarification here regarding Queen Galfrey: You don't need to play Aeon or Angel to romance her. You can play almost any mythic path in the early game (except something evil) and start the romance. Later on, when you can choose between new mythic paths, you can continue the romance as Gold Dragon or Legend. In my first playthrought I romanced her and started with the Azata mythic path and later changed it to Gold Dragon. Still at the end she joined my party and ascended with me. The only thing you have to make sure of is to not being chaotic by the late game and to wait for her at the end of act 3.

this is great, thanks for the effort making the vid, having so much fun with this game so far

You’ve done a great job with these videos. Thanks for all your hard work and game analysis!

I appreciate this video. I never played Pathfinder before and I was considering buying it upon release for Xbox to sink my teeth into. The characters seem really cool. This video definitely has me leaning towards buying this! Thanks!

Camellia is one of my favorites. I always kept her in my party and her romance arc with my good aligned character provided quite a bit of interesting dynamics between the two. My MC had a few moral dilemmas because of that. It was great for my roleplay.

For me, Daeren becomes one of my favorites, mostly due to the fact that he will almost ALWAYS have your back. He's much deeper than i think most people take him for

In a weird way I actually like the mostly silent lich companions. Also I think with the dragon while I haven't played the azata(?) path I think it makes a lot of sense that mentally she is still a child even though her body grows bigger, she is a dragon after all. Dragons age much slower, it would take her at least 26 years before she even becomes a juvenile with the mind of a juvenile. She needs to be at least 51+ years old before she becomes a young adult

Wenduag surpassed my expectations more than any other companion, though I wouldnt say she is my favourite. I think she is also very hard to justify for a good or neutral commander RP wise. Regill and Daeran are the two most tolerably evil characters, but Wenduag really is way beyond the pale. There are at least two occasions you are aware of her committing murder that are completely indefensible (the bar fight and the mongrel trader), and you know that she is completely depraved and consorting with demons from Hossila onwards. Camellia at least has a (not very convincing) excuse for her murders that you could pretend to find plausible RP wise. Also, she is actually insane, and whilst very evil, feels to me to be less wilfully evil and morally culpable than Wenduag. Wenduag feels like a character who could behave in a psychologically normal way and refrain from evil, but chooses not to. Camellia is obviously batshit and acting on a compulsion.

Nenio is my pick for top for one big reason. During the 3rd confrontation with the game's real Big Bad, she's the only one to give them pause, pointing out that while Nenio's experiments are random and seemingly pointless, she's still learning things, and most importantly, hasn't hurt anyone else doing them. Also I love that if you're a Kitsune as well, one of the points you can bring up about it being bad she forgot herself is that she missed out on having a fluffy tail to curl up with on cold nights.

Sir, this is the first video that I've seen of yours. I have not played this game myself (this was a research video to determine whether or not I want to buy it), and I have to say that you did sway me. I truly appreciate your fair and honest assessment of these characters on tactical, aesthetic, and personal reasons. You mentioned several times that high ranking members of your list you didn't like the voice, but said that it fit, and still appreciated the character. I wish this sort of honest assessment was more common on KZfaq, social media, and all other walks of life in America.

Man, I've had so much fun watching this video! Thank you so much for the effort. Amazing work. You made me pick up the game again!

It's always interesting how other players rate the companions. I think that it also depends on what class the main character has and whether he is more good or more evil. In my case, it's a mage (neutral good). So I need a melee fighter. This is where Seelah comes in handy. Also, I like her a lot. Lann is then the next character who isn't evil and is funny at the same time. With me he only has 3 levels as a monk. The remaining levels are hunters. I also need a good healer. I prefer Sosiel as a good character to Daeran. Ember and Arueshalae are also must sees for me. Simply because their stories fascinate me. If there was a living and good version of Staunton, I would definitely have taken him with me. But unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to save him...

On that note of Daeran, I also agree and always found the two options you get to resolve his quest very unsatisfying. I really felt there should have been an option somewhere between "I'm going to murder this inquisitor that helped me stop an incredible evil" and "I am going to let a friend be arrested because they did something bad when they were a scared child they couldn't have known the consequences of". Like, I really wish there were another option to just be like "I understand your concerns, inquisitor. But Daeran is one of my most reliable allies. Many in the crusades were former criminals seeking repentance. He is no different, and has more than atoned for his crimes. He is under my protection and the inquisition will not be arresting him in my kingdom." At least something that changes it from having to attack the inquisitor and let him use the 'I guess I will have to defend myself', and making it so if he wants to take Daeran, he becomes the aggressor and you become the defender. Also, didn't know you could only romance Galfrey as Angel or Aeon, thought it was any good aligned mythic! Appreciate the info!

I'm really happy to hear you'll be doing an updated Angel run. Now that it's confirmed WOTR is coming to console (yay!), I can't wait to get my hands on it. Absolutely want to be an Angel! Definitely going to need guidance and I want to use your content. Your content is thorough and easy to understand. Supremely helpful to someone new to the genre. 😁

Great video as always Slandered! I hope things are well with you and your family brother

Standout thing to me was their impact to the story. When a character just becomes a cardboard cutout as soon as their business is done I struggle to keep them around. So having insight into how they develop or the gravity of their insight on story decisions is important to me, great video.

Finnean actually does have camp dialogue, but you have to basically be by yourself outside of Drezen (or whatever your base is.)

Trever's multilclass fits well with his story, but it's actually the other way around! His purpose is to introduce new players to multiclassing and his story fits that well.

I love this video, thank you! Currently going through my first playthrough as an Azata. I'll keep an eye out for Aru... 💓

Best ones are: Ember, Arueshalae and Daeran. The rest are OK but this 3 never leave my party if I get a say on it.

Of note is that if you play your cards right, Daeran doesn't get sent to jail, but merely is kept under Hawk's watch. And in case queen Galfrey dies, its possible for him to be implied to be made the next King.

A lot of people seem to dislike Nenio alot. I personally love her amd she rarely leaves my party. She's like a younger Mordin Solus that doesn't have existential crisis after dooming an entire race

Awesome video, I was expecting your new ranking of companions on WTOR! I don't necessarily agree with all your rankings (we all have our preferences, don't we? hehe), but you made some pretty strong arguments which made me rethink my thoughts on some companions. So well done, that's probably a long video which took you a lot of time to make and thinkings and it is, in my opinion, the most complete video there is on KZfaq about companions rankings in this game. Good job and take care ! 😉

I ran with a weird group combo. My character was Chaotic Good Azata, but I kept Camelia alive because her character was so good to use in the party. I also kept both Sosiel and Daeren as dual healers and gave all three characters pretty good summoning abilities. I personally hated using Wenduag and Nenio so it's funny they are ranked 1 & 2 on your list. I also usually used Regill and Seelah. The only companion I happily killed in my playthrough was Regill when he betrayed me in Act 5.

That's a pretty well thought out evaluation, especially considering all the situational permutations (corrupt/redeemed) and consequences of your choices being either ignored or enforced by companion reactivity. All the bottom tier ones deserve to be right where they're at, simply by virtue of not showing up in more than 5% of playtime. My top 5 in order (based on a combination of interest/enjoyment as well as their auto-leveled combat viability for a casual newcomer like myself) would be Regil (easily), Arushalae, Daeran, Nenio, and Seelah (probably?) Seelah is a hard pick for the 5th slot because as a character I feel she a very uninteresting and predictably bland as a lawful good paladin when left in a vacuum. I picked her as my 5th though because she is a great baseline anchor to contrast to all of the weirder characters as a great synergy, and her high dialogue reactivity as you pointed out practically feeds roleplay fuel to the other oddities in the team.

Everyone is saying always saying how much difficulty they had with Wenduag and Camellia, but my Orcish Dominatrix commander was absolutely overjoyed to be rolling around with 3 *total baddies* ( In more ways than one ) - Wenduag, Camellia and corrupted Arueshalae. After ascending, we all got together and hunted down Iomedae.

I have completely different list, but I'm always impressed by quality of your videos, keep it up!

I prefer your wholly secret timecode list (in the description) for this specific video to totally keep the suspense for us all viewers. That's a good strategy.

The reason the Lich path has terrible undead companions is more of a balance thing than anything else; Namely because those undead companions function more as cannon fodder to distract the enemy while you do all the damage. They are for the most part essentially stronger versions of a standard Necromancer's minions, while most powerful Necromancers have one powerful sentient minion, a Lich can command several, as we can see here. It is also entirely possible to recruit Delamere as not a slave, but in turn she will have free will. I mean if you're playing a Lich Wizard, essentially you'll be Ainz Ooal Gown or Arkhan the Black; Since Wizards can learn most spells in the game regardless of their Necromancer specialisation, even if they can't use all those spells, which is exactly Ainz thing too, basically this is the *only* game I've come across where you can role play Monomga (right down to having a succubus wifu). Since a Lich is more than capable of one shotting entire groups of enemies with AoE spells with a D20 check of 8+ and an arsenal of instant death spells, so unless you have super bad luck with rolls, facing down demons or undead of which case versing undead you simply take control of them and turn them on each other and in cases of versing demons you empower your minions to take care of them for you, so you're mostly unstoppable on your own verses everything bar anything that holds equal power to yourself, that being other ascended or bosses and for that you have companions to distract while you buff yourself up to 3 shot the bosses with massive spells that hit for a 3rd of the bosses health bar. I also find Greybor a bit jarring because I'm so used to the Slayer look for Dwarfs from Warhammer and Dwarves from Shadowrun, where they are tattooed up and rocking awesome haircuts (the Warhammer version is shirtless). Compared to the Pathfinder game where they basically just look like normal boring Dwarves but duel wield axes. What makes it worse is that Greybor rocks the most boring haircut to ever exist, the split crown combover, add to this a neat short beard, it is uncanny for a Dwarf honestly, especially at his age, he isn't young, it doesn't look good. Also Lann is in my opinion guilty of some game designer at Owlcat's fantasy of the perfect husbando during the game's development but since he is so heavily woven into the game they were forced to run with it. He comes off as someone's table top Pen and Paper character that was min/maxed specifically for a broken archer build being shoved into the game because his class to personality is so ridiculously incompatible it just feels this way from top to bottom (wouldn't be surprised if the OG character was an elf Legolas clone). Comes off as the developers coming up with the character, his look, backstory, story arc and personality completely separately to whoever implemented the class for him, like an afterthought. Regardless, he was poorly written and the only real way you can build him is a multishot single target sniper archer due to his bizarre class type, but it works, so I guess whoever designed it on table top knew what they were doing.

''if I can kill her, why can't I romance her?'' - Ted Bundy

FYI you don't have to choose between killing the inquistor and Daeran going to jail. In my play through I let him go on trial and vouched for him and the inquisitor came back later saying something like due to your vouching for him he was exonerated or something like that. Not sure if that's something you have to unlock though.

Aivu is ABSOLUTELY my favorite by far, I just love her so so much. Makes me happy to see her ranked this high heh. Also having a dragon companion is just awesome! I likewise also wish Nenio was romanceable, very much so - she would likely be my go-to if she was, honestly. Yeah it makes sense for the character that she isn't, but it wouldn't be a stretch to think of reasons why she would be fine with it and perhaps even enjoy it a little - but still, we all know where here priorities would lie, and that's part of her charm lol

Did you do the lawful good true love ending with Daeran, so that you can avoid killing anyone and not send Daeran off to be lobotomized. That's probably the best run you can do with him, unless you are playing an evil character. Personally Daeran and Regill are my favorites, though I do agree that I wish Regill had some more personal quests.

With our favorite noble healer, to be fair he can still be kept out of prison if your relationship is high enough, though he gets watched by the inquisition.

i have to agree with your list. good comments on each of the characters

Honestly, playing a buffing wizard, the evil companions work really well. Wolfjit and Camelia with Cat's Grace and Reduce Person from my wizard results in them almost constantly getting hits + being able to dodge and avoid attacks better. At leaast where I am in Act 1.

Finnean does have camp dialogue its just that usually requires you to have exhausted the other party members dialogue or be alone with just another member also the camp dialogue only plays if your on a random encounter map or any place that isn't a safe location or world map.

From what I've looked up number 15 - you can also romance her as a Gold Dragon and a Legend. Though those may have been added in patches recently. Finally got my copy on Xbox One. Thank you for these guides. Considering the encyclopedia you have to pour over to make a good buid (never mind play the game - since getting the quest outcomes you want can be extra convoluted) it does help a lot. I want to do: Demon - romance Wedulaug. Try to make both as powerful as possible (Went Invulnerable rager base class for MC so demon rage might suit the character) Gold Dragon = Romance Aru. Try to find a way not to make her ranged (I'm not fond of that style) * Monkerdin Sorc Dragon Disciple into Gold Dragon (Way of the Dragon with claws included baby!) Aeon - Romance none? Probably Inquisitor/Fighter/Paladin (if I can swing alignments) Maybe Cleric with Law domain. Go Renegade because I've heard what happens to True Aeon MC. Secret: If I can ever manage to get enough of a handle mechanically to pull this one off... probably romance Queen. Lich - Damphyr Cleric Estelerge (I don't know the spelling) Paladin? * Call it damned by fate; or falling in the name of trying to do what's right - by any means. Swarm??? - Not big on bugs in RL. Might try to see if I can do a solo playthrough. Will probably make me glad I only play Custom with all the settings down to "please don't kill me?" lol. Also if Ismodae was mortal once, then she wants you to be Legend because she KNOWS that you are on the same path she took; and is directly concerned about potentially losing her job. Recall that in D&D which Pathfinder is mostly based on, a God is divine to a point. They're not infallible. The right mortal can come along and just steal their portfolio. They can be killed. They can I believe be forgotten, which leads to loss of power. There's even a handbook on Epic Destinies for D&D that might have been incorporated or expanded in Pathfinder tabletop, in which one such level 30 background to work toward is starting off as a Demigod. (Which is why the Secret ??? Route is something I'm keen on - but would have enjoyed it being less of a PITA to pull off, or an option to pick from the start)

My list would look similar. My only real nitpick is that Regill does have a pretty cool final quest, and its resolution was shocking to me at least. The fact that he sacks his own position in the hellknights just to ensure they are on board with your crusade took me by complete surprise. He is far and away the best evil character in the game that a good character can tolerate. He has integrity and a strong moral code. While Woljif has my favorite voice acting in the game, Regill's is a close second. And Greybor has so much potential to be cool, but every fight he is jogging his stubby legs up to the enemy, usually a round or two after the normal characters and even further behind someone mounted, and then he does about the same amount of damage as Aru or Lann, but they have been shooting for 3 rounds already. I like his quest, but I don't think Dwarven dual wielding slayer is the best class to take up a spot in my party. I have transitioned him to throwing axes once, but it is wasting some feats which feels bad. Luckily slayers get a lot of those.

I bought this game yesterday on sale. I am already hooked.

Thanks for the video.

Finnean's personal quests will upgrade him along the way so he can keep up with other unique weapons. His act 3 quest turns him into a +3 weapon and his act 5 quest turns him into a +5 weapon

Hey, it's actually possible to resolve Daeran's storyline without evil murder *or* sending him off to jail, but it takes a combination of choices in the right direction earlier on to be able to do so.

Fun fact you can also kill Seelah when you try to kill her friend Jannah at Molten scar in act 3. She frees her friend before you can and the game gives you an option to kill her then too

My top 3 favourites: - Daeran - My bro right there. Him and Nenio are hilarious, he can be a reliable healer, romanced him right off the bat and made him a staple in my party. - Nenio - One of the most memorable characters ever. First time I saw her, I was thinking "Hey, who copied Patricia Tannis from Borderlands?". Her dialogue is hilarious and she has reliable debuffs. - Seelah - Nice tank, too bad you can't romance her. Also comes down with healing and buffs. My least 3 favourites: - Wenduag - Didn't hesitate to kill her the moment I saw her again. She was irredeemable. - Camellia - Was okay as a party member until she turned out to be a serial killer, in which case I just killed her. - Greygor - Never cared about him. He should be an actual assassin, not a Slayer, but oh well..

Was Aivu added as a full compaion after release? Azata was the only mythic that interested me but I never finished act 2 or 3. This might get me to pick it back up.

Ember was my most liked, she's one of the few characters who had that little sister aura that makes you want to protect her, when I found out who burned her I just went, "oh, so you are going to die now", I don't care how useful you might have been, I didn't even want an option to romance her. Wendulag definitely has the best romance though, slavishly evil to lovingly soft, the perfect right hand, as long as you keep her well fed... Camellia was just an animal, she dressed up her psychopathy as needing to do it for the spirt and never tried to focus it, always kill her when it's time, I could just send her away but I feel better knowing she's in a ditch minus a head. I kinda wanted nurah to come back, someone clearly as broken as her would have been a very interesting trickster companion.

How do you get Ember's hexes past enemies' ridiculous Will saves? Spell Pen feats will help punch through defence, but isn't it annoying when you see "Will Save: Success (3 v 2)"...?

I feel i should say i used Daeran in an Angel playthrough, and didnt kill the inquisitor nor handed him over to be sent to jail, in the end slides he was allowed to retain being a noble rich boy, with the inquisitor visiting regular to "check up" on him. On the one hand Daeran hates that he is under remote supervision, but on the other he accepts that its only because the Inquisitor does these checks that keeps him out of jail.

I really enjoy Regill's black and white stance on everything. Lawful Evil to the letter.

SG I know this video is 6 months old but I am looking for advice on party members for the front line as I am about to purchase the game. In Kingmaker you had Amiri and Valerie for the front line and if need be Harrim. In WotR I assume Regill and Seelah could fill that need but Paladins are known not be the damage dealer that a fighter could provide. I don't really like playing fighters or anything requiring to be a frontliner so what do you suggest for the damage dealer/damage soak for this game? What did you find works best for you? Thanks Much.

Have enjoyed your stuff since before the name change. I have no interest in playing stuff like swarm and lich, so it’s nice that I have you to do it for me. Also, a good path kind of ruins Camilla and I would love a Wenduag run, but I can’t seem to quit my best boi Lann. For me, though, Aivu has to be number one, since I tried an Angel run, but didn’t want to continue without my favorite little Havoc Dragon. And for Regill, I think the fact that he doesn’t change is a feature, not a bug. I always find it weird just how much control the protagonist has over the lives of the companions; I love that no matter what you do, Reg is gonna Reg. My top 5: Aivu/Reg/Ember/Sosiel/Arue (For us Desna-following Azatas) PS> Nice to see you picking up subscribers; you’ll be at 10K in no time!

I mostly agree with your list. You definitly have good arguments.

Finnean Deismar outclassed - it depends on what you're up against. That _Brilliant Energy_ enhancement is often under-rated, but can make otherwise unhittable (or very difficult to hit) foes quite smackable. As long as said foes aren't undead or constructs. Not saying he should always be equipped, but he's often quite good in some otherwise tough spots. You're not exactly wrong, but I do think you're rating his utility as a weapon a bit low.

I am 20 seconds into this video, but whatevs. I still feel like I can make an informed comment on it: Thanks for the content, and your wonderful creations for this niche diamond of a game.

Greybor has a great slayer build. dual throw-axe from that dude in Wintersun, making him one of the strongest if not the strongest damage machine as a companion in your team.

I'm working on my first Demon path playthrough now and having a hard time deciding who to bring with me. My PC is a vampire blood kineticist. So far I know I want to use: Wenduag - Barbarian/knife master ("I'll rip you apart!") Sosiel - Front Line Cleric (head cannon I corrupt him and let his anger issues take over. ) Daeran - Mystic Theurg (control and buffs) Arue - Ranger (Corrupted of course) I don't know who else to bring. I feel like it has to be Camellia but I need a tank and I want someone with a sword and shield. Sosiel could do that job probably. It's not that I don't like Camellia, it's just that she always seems redundant as a 4th melee character so I never end up using her. Do you have any recommendations for my last party member? Assume I can respec any companion from lvl 1 with a mod, or I could get a merc. What build goes with the 5 for sure I have already? I'm going to be playing on core difficulty.

Arue's class is something I fix by getting her at level 8 in Drezen and going Arcane Enforcer for BAB and sneaks. As for ol' Mr Jefto, I always found Eldritch Scoundrel underpowered. I went to level 4 to get STR drain off sneak then full Vivisectionist. Which has huge lol consequences for picking Abundant Casting - Woljif ends up with more 1st level spells than anyone.

Wendy's throwing axe build is so fun. 10/10 would do it again. Plus with the evil route you get to take Reggi without reservation.

All the Lich ones are just flavor =) good flavor though! Good show sir

I love how you manage to produce long videos that have only relevant information, even when it's just your own personal opinions. I'm sick and tired of "content creators" who manage to get me so bored or upset about wasting my time at the first minute of their videos that I just downvote them and leave. You, on the other side, are among the very few who have such long videos that are so good that I want want to watch them to the end. Thank your for all the the great information you share and congratulations for such a well done job.

The biggest shortcoming of WotR is that you can't romance Seelah. But all the psychopaths? Sure why not. Somebody at Owlcat has emotional issues galore.

My personal favorites, but I'm a newbie to the game: 1- Daeran. Yes, he's evil. Yes, he's obnoxious. But he's so damn hilarious and a really powerful healer. (Also, my favorite romance.) 2- Nenio. Powerful caster and I love her personality. She always makes me cackle with her banter. 3- Ember. She has loads of banter with other party members and her class is amazing once she's gotten some levels in! Honorable mention- Lann. I'm a sucker for his romance, even if it isn't as flashy as some others. I also like how reactive he is to what's going on. Least favorites 1- Camellia. There's evil and crazy, and then there's Camellia. She pushes it too far for me to tolerate her for long. 2- Wenduag. Nothing against her as a party member, but her personality utterly repulses me. 3- Finnean. Great concept, but he's not as talkative and reactive as I'd like. Also, I typically play casters or priests.

after dropping the first game several times and never finishing it as i couldn't really get to like my party members (a similar issue i currently have with BG3) i might actually give it a try after seeing these possible companions when i get my next vacation. There are still just a handful that seem atleast remotely interessting but atleast it's something...

The comment about Canon characters not being romanceable is true. Paizo doesn't allow it (Owl cat told people this was the reason why the Barbarian character in the first game wasn't romanceable), which is as you said extremely weird because in both pathfinder games you can kill the canon characters.

I have had many plays throughs and use Nenio, but never did her quest. The first time I started the first puzzle and couldn't figure it out, I gave up. What mod lets you skip the puzzles?

Awesome video. Do you have a build for Lich? I want to make a lich playthrough

Epic video

Average AC looks to be in the 30s even at level 19... My character is currently level 8 and has 35 AC. Is that op or something? Playing as Deliverer Slayer/ Duelist.

Thanks Lann, you’re so awesome Lann

I know it’s not a fix, but you can use toy box to force respec lich companions. Otherwise agree with your list

Finnean *does* have camp monologues/discussions.

I found i really liked the conversation between seelah and arue. It always feels real, like would a Paladin really just kill demons even if one was a known traitor to the demons and a follower a good god, or would she see this as a divine sign and someone to support? Imo in a world were gods are real and active a paladin would definitely support the demon

"Staunton Vhane is known for making bad life choices so it makes sense." Lmao. Love it.

I have been struggling to find Woljif in act 3 really want him back. But I eventually gave up and assumed I either fucked up or it was bugged, so I'm stuck with Camellia to cover trap disarming and lockpicking (my own character has been designated the party tank/melee DPS)

Biggest problem I have with Wenduag is just justifying bringing her along instead of Lann. Even if you're doing an evil playthrough, you *just* saw her betray someone because she thinks you're stronger. Hell, she even says she fully intended on betraying you before that point. What is gonna happen if the giant bug demon you just saw kill a dragon is still up in Kenabres? Sure, if you've played before you know Deskari's left by then, but your character doesn't know that, and anyone with sense would think bringing her along is effectively aiming a dagger at your own back. She's a great character, but it's one of those cases where you have to hand your PC the idiot ball for the sake of your meta knowledge.

is skeletal marksman a companion? i always thought of it as the lich mythic pet, kinda like aivu for azata

Now I'm curious, neither Wenduag nor Camellia made it through my playthrough as an Aeon but I've seen on multiple videos that, especially Wenduag, is a very interesting companion to have.

I had issues with a few of the things said in the video Regarding the skeleton champion: I don't think it belongs in the bottom, because while it's weak and has no interactivity it doesn't take up a party slot, it's basically a seventh party member. I would place it above the other lich party members except Kestoglyr, because they are just as bland but also occupy a space in your party that could've gone to a better companion, while the champion doesn't have an opportunity cost like that Regarding Daeran: You say the ending to his quest has only two options, killing the inquisitor or condemning Daeran to inprisonment. This isn't actually true, if you play as a non-evil mythic path and Daeran trusts you, then his ending states the inquisitor speaks in his favor for the authorities and he gets to live free. One of his potential ending slides says he becomes a charitable person and a healer, and by the time he's an old man everyone will have forgotten what a bastard he was in his youth. I thought that was very satisfying Regarding Seelah: She only leaves if you choose the lich in Chapter 5 (or swarm, naturally), she's perfectly chill with a demon or devil commander. Which makes it even weirder

Personally with ember I take it as if she is locked at a childish level by the trama of being burnt with her father I find a very heart breaking story if they can move me enough to shed a tear then I will always remember that character, I use the same theory when I am running my evil D&D campaign if I as a story teller knows what makes my players tic I will use that.

Lann kinda reminded me of garrus in mass effect. Lann is a bro, and a sniper with his bow. I made sure he is with me in every mission. I think lann is the best.

It is interesting how very very different the rankings are for every player... (the ones without reactivity I wouldnt even consider party members just mercenaries... Honestly THIS single aspect is why I wouldnt choose lich for an evil playthrough. I just cut out too much immersion with the silent drones following me)

Was surprised to se annoyio at 2, mostly because she's so obnoxious I haven't used her in a team since my first character.

Undead Staunton is only _fantastic_ because even his build is in-character. It's the most spiteful, "I'm going to make bad life choices just to stick it to people around me" build ever. Possibly only Trevor's build is worse but we also know he made. . .unfortunate life choices. He's sticking a thumb in his own eye just to make things worse for his party. Very Staunton. Staunton's build is just purposefully miserable, to share his misery. It's the opposite of the build he has when you fight him (opposite in the sense that he's quite effective, given the action-economy disadvantage your opponents are labouring under during that last Act II Drezen fight).

The Succubus when following recommended path is so lethal it’s tediculous

How did you make your mount to has that "green fire" appeance ?

For my first play through was thinking of going lich because I’m kinda obsessed with necromancy the other choice is devil but I’m wondering if you can romance arue as a devil I know lich gets no love

Fun completely random fact, the V.A for Greybor is the V.A for Zane Truesdale from the Yugoh GX anime

I played a Lich and romanced Daeren early game, but didn't finish his questline. During my Lich transformation, Zacharius wanted me to kill Daeren and of course I did it for the powers I would get, which meant I got attacked as soon as I was about to kill him. Combine that with the whole shit show that is happening during the complete Lich Transformation act, adding the Daeren Situation made all of this a beautiful mess which became the most memorable moment of my playthrough :D