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Arueshalae #1, the rest is flexible

He can't be wrong about his favorite companions 😂

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I actually love what they did with her. She was the obvious earlygame waifu bait, making players think that they can fix her, then suddenly you get the realization that there is no fixing her, no redemption, she is as much or more of a monster than the demons you fight.

@@HeartoftheWinterbut in same time sooooo many players was crying and raging on owlcast and they tried to force them add “redemption” slide in epilogue, and there is even a mod where camellia in weeding dress. I guess those people was raised on Disney movies and just don’t believe that there is just pure psychopaths in the world. Camellia feels really much more alive and realistic then many others just because she is go on the war to have more chances to kill people without consequences. Just as people did and do in real world with wars.

Camelia is covered in red flags from the moment you meet her. I once tried to do her quest & romance her on a demon path and I felt like Padme from the meme. "It's all still just to please the spirits and save the land, right? right?"

@@eriksibul9399 If you're talking about the mod, I think you're talking about then it never tries to redeem her; it just tries to give her better endings, then one day she just left .

Ant that makes her perfect to participate in lich ritual after ending her quest and romance.

Bro she can drop half of the Abyss flatfooted just by spamming Winters Grasp

Ember winter witch= gg

@@likeAG6likeAG6 Winter's Grasp has nothing to do with flat-footed debuff

And when she ascends, she makes a complete fool out of herself when she realizes she can't help everyone.

Daeran's charm works on me, but I love the flamboyant Astarion/Zevran/Daeran archetype. Camellia's the one where I'm like: "Maybe pull back a bit."

I absolutely Love Daeran too. Favorite romance option for me

@@karlklein2263 Daeran is REALLY annoying at first, but he really grows on you. Great character

she is helpfull, is she not?

The only thing that made me keep her was the "eventual promise of getting a higher power to join the crusade". Sacrifice 1 or 2 for the greater good and so... then her last mission happened and well... I don;t miss her. I hate that Wolif is relatively hard to recruit, since Camelia is the only other one to pick locks.

As the game keeps describing her reaction to slaughter as "licking her lips nervously." Uh-huh, sure, that's why she's doing it. Girl's about to slide across the dungeon she's so "nervous." I still don't know her late-game very well, because I've only had her survive Act 3 in one playthrough. Anyone Lawful or Good would turn her in, and even my CN Trickster couldn't resist telling her she was safe and then telling the guards to move in.

It's more that the players are " but she's hot and I can fix her"

Yeah her story is weird. They look like they're going somewhere with her and all, but then they give my MC a reason and opportunity to kill her, which was very silly of them.

the worst offender is as a former paladin he only has 10 charisma lol

@@Edmeslang4395 He wasn't very good at being a paladin, clearly.

@@Edmeslang4395 The Oath of Fist clearly - Oof.

@@Edmeslang4395 I think he probably lost some charisma thanks to all the shit he'd been through. Really broke both his sense of self and his social acumen. I do love his build narratively. The story says he started as a paladin, lost his Goodness to war and joined the hellknights, got captured and had his devotion to Law shattered, then became an armored pit fighter, and all that's exactly what his build reflects, even if it is a bunch of dogshit wasted levels and class features you can't use in terms of actual gameplay.

Agreed wrath of the rightous and bg 3 both do a great job at giving you companions for an evil playthrough

@@addex1236 I disagree, bg3 had only one "evil" companion Minthara.

​@@oicrusader2143 I will second this, BG3 has a very tame depiction of evil. You could make a parallel between Mint and Cam, but hell....she doesn't even come close. All "evil" in BG3 has some kind of redemption hence making it less evil? Doesn't mean BG3 has bad characters, just an objective take on it :)

Regill: I don't appreciate your methods, but I appreciate the help Wenduag: Who hurt you? I will show you what love and affection is and you will like it Spoiler: you are crazy. Not even my chaotic evil demon liked you

@@icarue993 The great thing about Regill was that he was way more ruthless than he even needed to be, but it was generally based in pragmatism, and when it wasn't, he still wasn't stupid and would listen to reason. It's rare to see LE portrayed as "so cruelly Law-obsessed that they slipped into Evil in the process," rather than "an Evil person using law and order for its own ends," but it's a much more realistic portrayal. A cruel totalitarian, but one who genuinely believes what he's doing is the best way to run a society.

'I will take particular pleasure in killing you.' - Baphomet, moments before disaster.

Agree).

I too found Ember overly sugary sweet for my tastes Regill was my favorite with his pragmatic approach to everything. And give him a 2 hander and he busts em up!

Daeran bounces off of the other companions so well that you end up keeping him in the party just to see what he'll say next

I disagree kinda, for me Seelah or whatever feels much more vanilla and sweet. Ember is interesting at least because her philosophy n random insights, sometimes she gave me Malkavian vibes randomly saying wise things and reading people. Also I like how Venduag kinda scare of her and always saying that she is hiding something and she is not what she seems, and when camellia says “meh she just a dump girl” venduag said “I can feel she hide something, and she doing it better then u maniac girl” to camellia.

I was gonna say, I can't believe he did my Daeran dirty like that. I love the idea of a chaotic evil character who doesn't want to consort with demons or murder babies. He's just like, kind of a dick. And all his dialogue is soooo good :')

She's goes pretty well with Corruptor mythic abilty and Enchament spells too. Stinking cloud is real good early on against enemies.

Ember in the story: "I strongly believe there's good in everyone (except the gods, fuck those guys), even demons!" Ember in the gameplay: "Too late for apologies!" Blasts you with a spell that, if it kills you, literally sends your soul to hell.

И это полный бред. Простите, я понимаю, у нас тут паверфантазия, НО это не просто нейтральный кусок Бездны - это ВЛАДЕНИЯ ЛОРДА БЕЗДНЫ. Лорды Бездны имеют абсолютный контроль на своем плане. Никакая мифическая сила не позволит тебе ничего там поменять, если этого не захочет Ноктикула. Красиво, но глупо. А самое главное - ничего не решает. Красиво и бессмысленно. В Бездне миллионы таких рынков, закрытие одного, усилит другой. Как не крути. Лишь Ангел вносит реальный impact, выжигая до тла целый план Дескари.

Same. Greybor with any of the good alignment characters is hilarious, regill is the same with any chaos or evil characters. Never liked Camellia or Wenduag, one is a straight murder hobo protected by her father who is a PoS in his own right, and not sure even evil characters are okay with cannibalism, that is a taboo that is pretty much outright hated by all. Lann grew on me, listening to him interact with others is tedious at times, but his insight in counsel tends to be spot on, like regill. No issues with Seelah, other then she never comes off as iconic, she is deeply flawed makes just about every mistake one can as a Paladin, even if done for good intentions. I was floored when she is important to the PF lore, nothing about the build or jer actions hinted at that

@tihonannenkov4114 I would say Greybor has potential... but he comes late and there isn't enough content for him to shine

Lann is realistic: a teenager whose maximum lifespan is 30 years if not extended in the endings. He's honorable but very simple minded and I was disappointed in the romance. Regill is very widely liked as a solid character, even as he doesn't change a bit.

he's the worst character imo he's writing is awfull... in the prologue he play the "try to save everybody go as fast as your slower companion bla bla bla" and then when you meet regil... he's agreeing with him? wtf? prologue lann and main game lann isn't the same character...

@@Kaliblister Agreed. His writing (and VA) is poor. He's definitely Chaotic Good in the prologue and early game, and it's like they realized halfway through development that he has to be Lawful Neutral because of his class. His class itself also makes no sense. He should have been a Hunter.

This is why I don't like Sos, male character, trying to just be a bro and help him out, pushy AF in the romance line, and if you are a female character that tries to romance him, you find out he's taken early, act 2 or 3, so the entire time he is romancing you he is with someone. Unfaithfulness as a cleric is a poor character flaw.

@@Dan-uf2vh Regill doesn't change and what I hate is that I've seen some people criticize him for it. But overall I'm glad so many people like him. Not every character has to have an arc of change to be good. Some characters are iconic and don't change and the fun is in watching who they already are react to different situations. James Bond and Sherlock Holmes don't need character arcs, they just are who they are and we enjoy watching/reading about them. It's perfectly fine for Regill to be the same person from the beginning to the end of the game and just enjoy how that person responds to things.

She also fills the same niche (flat-out Evil) as Wenduag. A very pointless character, IMO.

Not ordered within tiers: S-Tier: Seelah, Lann, Camellia, Sosiel, Nenio (the GOAT party) A-Tier: Daeran, Ember, Wenduag, Kestoglyr, Galfrey, B-Tier: Arueshalae, Regill, Greybor, Lich companions besides Staunton and Kestoglyr C-Tier: Staunton D-Tier: Trever

Same here. But I only did one for the moment.

The two of them really are great counterpoints to one another, the traumatized guy who actively tries to bury his good side under a hedonistic mask and the psychotic monster who poorly fakes her own goodness. I just wish Daeran had a better VA, he really just sounds bored and like his mic was cheaper than the others. Maybe he's better in Dance of Masks, not sure.

Come on. Camelia is covered in red flags from the moment you meet her. You can confidently tell what she is after like 20 minutes into the game based on her amulet, battle cries and not-at-all-obvious remarks.

@@JohnDoe-il4dz Them trying to hide her alignment with her amulet is dumb. The second I saw that item I said to myself "Oh, she's evil". There's literally no other reason to hide it.

Camellia and Ember are the two opposite extremes of severe mental issues.

​@@kalicula7718Cam is an absolute freak to boot. Nothing says psycho, even to other psychos then lets pound after we kill someone.

She pretty much exists solely to be a demon's pet.

Seems pretty easy to justify taking her if you're an evil character. She has no problem doing terrible things and as long as you're the most powerful in the room, she's going to follow whatever you tell her to do. If she gets out of line, you can just kill her. And the alternative is Lann, a good guy that gets upset over a little bit of cannibalism. He's obviously not going to be okay with you doing evil things and you'll likely end up just having to kill him when you he turns on you, so why would you take him as an evil character? A fickle allegiance from Wenduag is better than an allegiance that'll immediately fall apart with Lann. A lot of evil characters have big egos too, so they might just like having someone like Wenduag along that worships them, and they likely believe they'll always be strong enough to keep her in line or kill her, so her betrayal isn't really something they'd be concerned about.

On the other hand, killing her as part of Lann's quest in Act 3 is pretty good. It shows shat she's completely insane.

There is a recent video on Mort's channel discussing this topic.

Regill is one of my favorites, as well. I appreciate his pragmatism, even if I don't always agree with him. Another point in his favor is that he knows who he is and doesn't need me to help him soul search. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind most of the companion quests, but it's refreshing that a companion isn't relying on me in that way.

I also really appreciate Arueshalae's DDs.

pillars of eternity 2 is a direct sequel to the first one and I can't imagine it makes any sense as a standalone story.

I think wrath of the righteous would be the best choice. Rogue trader is still getting patches and dlc. Pillars 2 isnt very well written and it's turn based mode was added later, so the game isn't fully designed for it. Wrath is also, like, the best CRPG ever

Exactly. Couldn't stand him at first, but by the end of the game I was roleplaying that he and my character were best friends. He's incredibly witty too, so I appreciate the writing that went into him.

I've never felt more turned off or more betrayed in my life. Never forgave him either because he never tried to redeem himself and show he wasn't completely a yellow bellied Coward

That is why he ran, he does so much base damage him running away is a difficulty spike. I also feel rp wise it makes sense. He is a thief who didn't sign up for war. Him getting scared is fair.

​@@Frey12 RP-wise I always treated him like he was part of the supply caravan like Horgus...just a black market/informant guy. Not a crusader. So he wasn't a deserter in my eyes. A coward, yeah, but I didn't treat him like a knight or expect honor from him at all during the story.

I would like this cast to choose from and the choices to play in just about any other game, but in this one, where it is literally good vs chaos vs evil, it's hard to justify being the savior of the world as a lich, demon, swarm. Devil maybe a sliver as they are at war with the demons also, but even that is hard sell, as the primary backers of your war are all good gods or backed by those gods.

Same. Irl being a decent person consists of opening doors for people and letting someone merge in front of you. This game is a place where being a decent person consists of charging into a group of 12 foot tall demons and putting the fear of God into them. If I did an evil playthrough......I'd only be the millionth tryhard to think I was cool doing it.

Wildcards is great, new companion(s), quests and kineticist class. All the DLCs are ridiculously cheap currently though.

for WotR without Dance of Masks, finishing both games will take from 3 months to a year depending on schedule so there will be another sale where I can get everything :) more concerned about Kingmaker ​@jepeman

Kingmaker was worth a replay with mods adding oracle etc to that game. While you miss the mythic craziness the game is still quite good and establishing a kingdom feels more grounded then the ascension themes.

@@khal7702 Wildcards is Kingmaker DLC and all the Kingmaker DLCs are really cheap currently.

Read about it n will just get Wildcards for Kingmaker, thanks for help!​@jepeman

Might stream the end of it

Eh, confined to their DLC, might as well be mercs

Poor sods...

Demon Slayer Ranger is the easiest place to start

There are simple ways around that, if you're willing to RP. For starters, leaving Lann with the mongrels is the obviously more safe choice for the mongrels; and you can keep Wenduag in check when she's with you. If you want to go with a more esoteric angle, pick an Oracle, and then you can just do whatever because you've had a vision on how events are going to unfold.

I have only taken her once and I tried to romance her (as a good character). It was fun but she betrayed me (seems to be a tricky romance to get right). She was a powerful dual axe thrower though and I really missed her after she was gone.

Why do you think its insane for an evil character to take her? Seems to make plenty of sense to me RP-wise, especially when the alternative is Lann who isn't cool with evil shit and, RP-wise, would likely break his alliance with you the moment he sees you doing some evil things. Wenduag will follow whatever messed up evil things you do or ask her to do. If she betrays you or outlives her usefulness, then from the perspective of an evil character, you can just kill her lol. Better to have a useful evil minion that will follow orders but may potentially betray you than it is to have a good aligned character that will absolutely betray you when he sees what kind of person you actually are.

@@Denkart You don't know any of that when you get the choice. All you know about her is that she eats people, conspired to kill you, betrayed the last person she followed, and betrayed/killed/ate many of her own people. Is she going to betray you when she meets the next powerful demon you might run into? Which seems likely you might. For an evil character just meeting her, nothing about her makes you think she'll stick with you and not try to kill you again later, even if you're not against her killing and eating folk. Even if you're thinking this Lann guy is boring and doesn't like it when **I** want to kill and maim (or eat people who knows). The alternative isn't just Lann, you can take neither of them, which is fine. None of this matters that much, we can rationalize anything we want for RPing. You want to redeem this monster, you want to have a wild time killing people with this spidercat mutant, whatever.

@@Argo.nautica I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you don't know any of that when you get the choice. None of what I said requires any knowledge of future events. Those are the justifications I used on my first playthrough. You know when you have the choice that Lann simply will not work with you. He already wants to kill Wenduag at the beginning because of what she's done. It's easy to assume that he will want to do the same to you as soon as you do something he doesn't approve of. No point in taking someone that won't work for you at all. You know Wenduag is unreliable and follows strength, but has no issues with doing evil things. So you can at least use her until her usefulness runs out or she betrays you, at which point you can kill her. As an evil character, you would already expect any minion you have to desert you or betray you given a chance, so that's no surprise and she admits as much. What harm can some lowly mongrel do to you anyway? Choosing neither as option is perfectly fine as well. Just saying there's nothing really insane about picking Wendu as an evil character and really there are plenty of reasons to do so. It can be as simple as being an evil character with a large ego that simply likes having a little minion that worships them and doesn't fear betrayal because they believe they'll always be the strongest to keep her in line. Of course, you're also right in saying that there are definitely reasons to NOT take her as an evil character. I just felt like explaining some reasons why an evil characters would since you said it'd be insane to do so lol.

​​@@mr.fantasthicc4423they also missed one of if not the most annoying companions

You killed woljif?!? He didn't steal he got scared and ran. 😭

Haven't played in a while, but my guess would be dog/wolf for trip attack

The only wrong option at this point is centipede, everything else has the potential to be pretty good, but anything with a trip attack will be the most generally useful for the party

I always use the ToyBox mod to respec Sosiel into a crusader, but keeping his glaive weapon and deity. He makes a great frontline healer and dps.

Making phantasmal killer work consistently requires stacking a lot of bonuses onto it specifically, onto illusion in general and onto making your spell DCs higher. Once you get to that point it can one-shot some bosses if you're lucky.

@@bookbagfox The other thing that really helps is Persistent Spell (ideally with Favourite Metamagic to reduce the level cost).

Hilor for main character respecs alignment too ig lol. Awesome. So Ignore my question; But thanks for the content :) I don't agree with some of your personal opinions of some characters (Lan mostly lmao) buuuut still a great vid

You just do Sosiel's quest basically, the catch is that if you don't say the right things to him along the way he dies in the arena one way or another.

On my first ever run I missed Woljif and killed Camellia when I discovered her true nature. That left my party for a while with Seelah as my best lock-picker and trap disarmer! That was hard work, until I recruited Aru.

Possibly, I'm coming up on the end of my story review playthroughs