dan020350 Don't call doctors murderers, they are humans. They can't possibly understand everything. There are no reliable models to test mental medication. You can't simulate the human brain, the best we have now are Lab rats.

F Fuentes -.- just quoting UG

JDDBeyondTheSky This makes a lot of sense. Christ hospital has a program where if you sign up to see someone about getting medication that you have to see a therapist along with them. Very productive.

True solution is human resource. Immense untapped human resources lie within each and everyone of us.

Ben Dover A fellow doctor I see lol. Listen to this guy he knows what he's talking about.

MJ's 360 i came off of mine for this reason. i am now bankrupt and looking forward to a brighter future than before.

Ok this is where I draw the line with ridiculousness...When I was suicidal and wanted to blow my brains out at any cost, I was ECSTATIC that there was an anti-depressant to absolutely numb me (I know exactly what you mean) -- Do you realize how irresponsible it is for you to go around saying you'd rather feel depressed? Ok, fair enough - You do you...But ever maybe think your depression wasn't as serious as others? You know, people who truly benefit from the drugs? SSRI's are NOT a life long cure. They DO however serve a purpose, no matter how minimal you might think it is. The whole "wait 6 months for it to work" thing is bullshit.

in my case i had various other issues that antidepressants do not address. so looky there. we are both right!

I had that problem on Paxil. It left me numb. Effexor left me feeling jittery and anxious. Zoloft work with my body and brain chemistry. I've been on it 15 years now!

It's coming off it which is the bigger problem

july7nyc july7nyc I'm sorry about what happened to you, but it's well known that stopping an anti depressant suddenly often leads to severe depression or other mental instability. That's why if you want to stop you need to see a doctor so they can bring you down slowly and carefully and check up with you regularly through the process. That doesn't mean the drugs don't work. Perhaps you should emphasize the importance of following a doctor's orders rather than suggest that people not take their medicine.

You're right that it's well known- to people who know. I was in my 20s and am not a doctor, and I did not know. At the time, I did not have insurance and was seeing a resident doctor in a hospital as part of a program that allows people without insurance to see residents at an extremely reduced rate. I began the Paxil with one doctor, but because of the nature of the program, switched doctors twice so in the course of 1 year, I saw 3 different doctors. It was the second doctor who advised me to stop taking it after I expressed concerns about feeling numb (emotionally) and not myself. He did NOT taper me off and after the hospitalization (at a different hospital) where they initiated tapering me off, when I returned to the program, they had switched my doctor again. The third doctor continued the hospital's course and finished tapering me off slowly. The first doctor switch was because it was at the end of the academic year so the residents changed/graduated. The second switch was, I believe, because they knew he did not taper me off the Paxil, though I can't confirm that was the reason. In any case, perhaps you shouldn't rush to judgement and should read more carefully. I never suggested people shouldn't take THEIR medicine- I simply said that taking it in the first place is a risk and, in my opinion (obviously), it's not worth the risk. I would never advise others to go against their doctor's orders, even if in my case, my doctor was wrong- I do believe my case was very rare in terms of doctor error. If anything adults can always choose to get a second opinion, if feasible financially and/or otherwise. The bigger issue is that drug companies do damage by misleading consumers and frankly, doctors, who rely on clinical trials and studies to help inform their decisions, and there is little to no oversight. All drugs have potential side-effects, but when the drug companies downplay them or misrepresent the seriousness of the potential risks, that's more than fraud, it's a health threat.

You can’t say a drug almost killed you . You almost killed you . You’re a dumbass for coming off cold turkey

@@imanygirl your story is news worthy. thanks for sharing it!

l find it funny how a medicine can causes people to end their lifes & the NHS are ok with that

This... Now this, is a stupid comment.

But I haven’t wanted to eat because I’ve felt severely depressed for a few weeks and my stomach has been in knots, so fasting hasn’t worked for me. Maybe worth a go for someone though with mild depression

same here.

Thats because you are a lab rat to the doctors, and now you wont get employment because you are considered handicapped and crazy.

What was the symptoms?

they shut down your organs, end of discussion you know nothing about the body if you don't demonize these man made drugs

The Beige Sheep I couldnt agree more with your comment anti depressants are tricky to get right thats why there is not one "anti depression" molecule

Ballista Pk wow really? whats your proof?

Ballista Pk tell us about this

elsa Grace he wont have any proof cuz he pulled that out of his ass lol

some side effects can start to take effect pretty quickly, i was definately feeling very weird by my fifth day on paxil

CoDisafishy I took that shit for two days and was ready to get hit by a truck by 3, 4 day. it fucks you up. literally. my doc wouldn't take me off of it after that. so I stop seeing her.

the first 2 weeks are actually the worst

+Gordana Simic I suppose it depends on the person and the dosage. I don't remember having any obvious negative side effects in that time on Sertraline.

CoDisafishy not true. What They say is for it to work as an antidepressant it takes about 6 weeks. Side effects can be immediate and intense such as insomnia, drowsiness, nervousness, teary sadness. Or they may be nonexistent.

Or carefully try to taper off and get free head shocks

You don't even necessarily need to miss a dose for that. Nasty stuff. Anybody else break teeth as a result?

Weed helped me out!

1) MJ triggers anxiety & panic attacks for me. I wish it helped. 2) You don't have to be a veteran or suffer from a single event to suffer from PTSD. My PTSD comes from prolonged emotional-psychological trauma.

It is claimed that anti-depressants take about 6 weeks to "work" however effects happen immediately such as nervousness, insomnia, drowsiness, and other shitty and uncomfortable feelings.

Eddie14 I agree, when I was put on citalopram 6 months ago the first 1-2 weeks I felt drowsy, anxious and odd in general but after the first month these effects completely subsided

actually, it can in some instances.

Paxil left me feeling numb, but I've been on Zoloft for 15 years and it's working like a champ. Medications affect different people in different ways. That said: 5 days is way too soon for it to have had any effect at all.

@Gghhgyh Gyughuii you would think that but the minute she was off of the paxil it all went away. There was never any previous mental disorders before.

I would rather put it this way: you are depressed and maybe suicidal, but feel fear, remorse, love to your close ones that prevent you from doing it. Then you are put on antidepressants and feel emotionaly blunt, no remorse, no love, no attachment to loved ones added to your depression plus some added anxiety and weird odd derealisation feelings and there is nothing left to block you from doing it, no human-like concerns so you are in bigger danger than before..

goddessmelanisia exactly

You are right but it over prescribed and people who dont need it can freak out.

Their energy level improves faster than their mental state.....hence, suicide. That may be the lamest excuse I've ever heard.

The point that I got was that the pharmaceutical company was aware of the dangers but tried to keep it a secret from the public to line their pockets.

Lambily4Ever, the video does put it that way, but I think it can also give the impression that this and other antidepressants are harmful and ineffective, which is what I see in this comments section. If the company did that there's no reason they shouldn't face legal repercussions, but I don't want people feeling that the medication they may need will make them commit suicide, and as a result avoiding treatment or stopping their meds suddenly.

From a distance, Americans are addicted to three SIMPLISTIC solutions to their psychic pains. Material, Blame, Violence. Material = drug. Blame = single faceless enemy. Violence = punishment/ gun. The end result, depressions with periodical attacks of self - or attacks on faceless enemy. The root is indeed IRRESPONSIBILITY. Specifically, of faceless regulators or corporations or healing professions - consist of individuals lacking SELF-irresponsibility. Did you vote?

a lot of those medicines are not for depression though, they are for anxiety and restless leg syndrome

marcie frey these drugs do have awful side effects immediately. There is no waiting time for these. Prozac immediately gave me insomnia, nervousness and drowsiness at the same time. It was an excruciating unbearable feeling. I flushed the remainder down the toilet after 3 days! It's terrible! A friends Dr. medicated her with anti anxiety drugs for 2 months while she started Prozac in order to counteract the effect. Prozac works for her in the end and my point is that there are immediate and awful effects from these drugs. They are not so safe.

Lexapro ?I take 10mg and feel fine

Forcing? You dont have to take it its a service

Proverbs 3:5-6 King James Version 5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Agreed!!! Especially paxil. The generic is not the same at all. I was just prescribed Paxil today and insisted that it NOT be generic. I'm hoping my insurance pays for it otherwise it going to cost me☹

Well when you first introduce an SSRI it actually depletes the brain of serotonin. That's why they say it takes up to 6 months to work, initially the SSRI IS producing serotonin, however, your brain is blocking it from being absorbed....After a few weeks, your brain then gets used to the consistency of serotonin attempting to enter at the same times and then floods system with serotonin

100 % Agree

Philippians 3:13 “Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,”

I think these drugs have problems like this when depression is not clinical. Pills are only potentially going to alleviate the physical chemical imbalance of clinical depression with a high level of consistency and the placebo effect can be quite powerful though but that isn't why pills are prescribed.

I respect your opinion. yzeew w, but I am not able to delineate when a depressed person, who is hurting, is deemed "clinical". People are in pain now. What can we do, if anything, now. Unfortunately, the studies are not super-encouraging. Hell, I just wish I could be happy. Whatever that may mean.

Ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup no I meant what I said. I have manic depression, OCD, adhd, anxiety and ptsd and I function like if I don't have any of it because of Paxil.

They tell you its helping, but you are merely a lab rat to them.

Do some reading, ketamine is usually controlled as a recreational drug but has shown great results in first trials. Especially for people like Jen! Don't go all 'tin foil hat' over it, this is how we improve medical treatments. Oh it was published in the highly reputable Lancet Journal of Psychiatry ( www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(17)30102-5/fulltext ) ..... but I'm sure you are qualified to tell Jen it's not helping

I agree that these drugs need to be prescribed by a psychiatrist. Unlike you, I had an awful experience with Paxil. If it helps you and you've been on it for a while without serious side effects, that's great. You seem to be well-informed and responsible and I'm sure it goes without saying that should you decide you no longer want to take Paxil, the process to stop taking it can be just as risky as the process to begin taking it, which is why it's important to do so under a doctor's supervision. Unfortunately, I wasn't as informed and I had an extreme reaction to going off the drug. Still, it should be doctors making decisions on what to prescribe- not pharmaceutical companies or patients who've seen a commercial and think everything is going to be great after taking a magic pill! I don't understand why drug companies market prescription drugs to consumers in the first place.

Great comments guys! One thing to note on taking any SSRI is that should be the last approach to therapy. A therapist or psychiatrist needs to determine the severity of the disorder. Other treatments that are effective for low to mid level severity is CBT and mindfulness. When I decided that an SSRI was needed, my anxiety was so severe that I could barely function throughout the day. Here is my example: Not being able to sleep because there was a voice or thought that I was going to die. I was getting on average 2-3 hours of sleep. Not being able to talk to someone because I felt trapped by the conversation. Not being able to stop at any stop lights because I felt trapped by traffic. Whenever my panic would arise, I close the windows and start screaming out of fear. Whenever I drove, my hands felt like two cinder blocks. At that time, I was undergoing therapy, and it was no longer working. I talked to my therapist and he agreead I needed to go to a psychiatrist to get on an SSRI.

@@hardsoapscum I agree ,I take Lexapro in the morning and Mirtazapine at night ,I wouldn't function without them

Justin Mielke Please name a drug that has no negative side effects in 100% of patients.

I take trillinex along with weekly therapy and it's been working great not only that but I also made sure internally I WANTED to be happy. a lot of people under depression just dont want to be happy subcontentiously or they have a skewed perception of how to get happy. although for some it anti depressants just chemically dont work as they should and any depression might be a false flag due to the drug, so people need to keep that in mind too in case they feel suicidal

kyle smith yes, it would be it takes alot longer than you think, and its made by proctor and gamble, a major company that came out in the early 90's saying they sold their soul to satan. Look it up, it's truth. They make these products to cause these atrocities in people's lives ---- cause the devil hates us cause our FATHER in Heaven loves us.

I didn't understand one thing you just wrote. I just stopped paxil three weeks ago and I feel fine.

@@violaroberts6466 i removed my thumbs up as soon as i saw you brough religion into this shit.... jeez man...

You butthurt Atheists need to live with it. I am NOT going to hide mybelufs because an insecire heathen might be offended. Dont like my comment??, i really dont care

My immune system has been destroyed from living in a toxic HUD mold infested home. More than 50% of homes are mold infested, because they are made out of dead vegetation, wood. Is there anything that can help the immune system fight against mold?

my husband is a contractor and the actual reason why people get sick from indoor pollution is the building materials in partial, but more to the point of over insulation required by the government! There is no air exchange, or natural ventilation like there used to be prior to the 1970's.

So they work just well enough to get a person out of a funk enough to end their lives? Totally plausible.

very true

Wrong. They should absolutely not get help, because there is no help available. All a doctor who sells product can do is ruin your life further, they cant fix your problems for you.

I don't think you can make such generalized statements.

Thanks for sharing and sending hugs

They do not work for YOU. They do work for many of us, but with risks, no doubt.

They effect everyone differently. It is trial and error to find out what works for you. After several medications I found that a low dose of Zoloft worked for me. I'm not a fan of psychiatric medication, but it really did help get me through a very dark time. Try talking to your doctor and finding what is best for you.

Pacia Carpenter I have, but nothing works. I talked to the doctor about it not working and gave me other options, so far, she said it'll take a few more months to get used to.

On a side note, I read some statistics a while ago that you have a 2% chance of becoming addicted with ONE DOSE of opioids. It goes up to something like 7% by the end of a week. I don't like those odds. I will never take opioid painkillers EVER.

Michael U it made me not care about anything too but at the same time I was happy, not caring could be due to less anxiety which is excellent for some suffering anxiety/social phobia

Amanda Vadon Get off of it if you can... it's a terrible drug and hard to get off of. Try talk therapy and natural remedies. Best of luck to you 😊 Anotber thing is that it takes (for me anyway) about 6 weeks to really tell if the drug is helping or not.

I started taking Paxil back in 2013 when my husband and I split. I was severely depressed, could not get out of bed and spent most of my days crying. My doctor put my on Paxil and after about 3 weeks I started to feel better. At first because it was taking so long I thought it was not working but one day I just started to feel better. If it wasn't for the Paxil I am almost sure I would have ended up attempting suicide.

And now?

Anya Kelly, I have for a few years and it's helped me a lot!

I took it for several years (4 or 5). high dose. I stopped taking it a little over a year ago. It was a nightmare withdrawl. St. John's Wort saved me. I tried dosing off from Paxil several times, but I couldn't handle the symptoms. Finally I tried St. John's Wort tea and it helped a lot. Anyway, the symptoms only stopped completely 9 to 12 months after I stopped taking it.

When i forget to take my meds i can barley get out of bed i take 5 different types of pills don't know if it is because of paxil or one of my other pills.

Anya Kelly, maybe address that with your physician, Anya. I only take a couple medications, so am lucky in that regard.

Hey Anya. What pills do you take? I took many diffrent pills during the time I was on meds, maybe I can help you. Regarding Paxil, the symptoms for not taking it come as soon as 26 or 28 hours after the last dose. I guess it depends on the dose too. Most common symptoms are dizziness, extreme low mood, inhability to do pretty much anything (including getting out of bed) and the infamous brain zaps. In my experience the brain zaps start coming 36h after the last dose. Visit this website. There is a forum and people talk a lot about symptoms and drug interactions and withdrawl, etc. I advise you to do your research. If I had done my research before starting taking pills, I would've never taken most of them, especially Paroxetine. www.drugs.com/answers/support-group/paxil/

Simone VC ugh I feel

sarah S. true

Yeah until it stops working and you enter hell

For some people it only takes one pill to make them sick. I've seen it happen

Not too soon at all

For me it took days but peaked at two weeks. It was really horrible.

@@tomasalas1122 Me too

Paxil saved me

Be careful. Here's my anecdote: After having been prescribed 3 other drugs that didn't really do anything for me, other than Prozac, which did make me feel better, but caused an episode of serotonin syndrome, I was prescribed Paxil. I'd been on it for a couple of weeks, and was feeling different, but more ill(pain) in ways that would be hard to describe, than better. Suddenly one evening I experienced an extreme craving to commit suicide. It wasn't that I felt particularly bad, or hopeless, I just really, really, really wanted to kill myself. I had to talk myself out of it, as my mind raced to plan, almost as though it was doing so without my input. It was very difficult to stop. I quit Paxil soon after, and have never experienced this since, nor had it happened to me before that. Sadly, I know what it is to be suicidally depressed, this was _not_ that, it was something else entirely and a very frightening experience.

yadabub Wellbutrin had that exact same effect on me. I've been suicidal, but that episode on Wellbutrin was completely different. Wow. I wonder what it was that caused that in us.

I've been wondering this also. This garbage is almost as bad as the National Enquirer.

What you mean your waiting to die ?

yep I read the elation/euphoria you can get as an effect of the drug probably makes a already suicidal depressed person motivated enough to go through with it. That's the same with bipolar disorder during a manic episode

You have never tried Paxil, right?

Mariscal F you gonna feel good for 6 months

I had been on Paxil for 10 years and finally I said, I want out. Please be open-minded and fair and listen to my story before you call me a looney. When you take Paxil for the first time, it is a miracle drug. It does change your life completely. That "high" doesn't last forever, it's gone within the first year. After that, you're still totally normal and functional. But all the side effects are still there. Very low chance you will have a normal sex life, if you are okay with that. But this drug shuts off something else in your brain that I can't describe, being off the meds for the first time has given me clarity. My highs were extreme, and my lows were extreme. I think this drug was also making me paranoid for 10 years straight. It caused some sort of agitation. Whatever it was, it made me always want to quit, and I tried quitting 8 times within 9 years. I've been on different meds too btw, Paxil made me the "happiest" which is why I stayed on it (I've also tried Vybryd, Wellbutrin, Zoloft). THIS DRUG IS DANGEROUS. Every single time I tried to quit, the suicidal withdrawal symptoms were torture, physical symptoms were hell, and I was in a way worse position than I was before meds. I knew this drug was changing my brain permanently, for the worse, and the more I tried the more I realized..... if I don't get off this drug, it WILL kill me one day. Staying on the drug will kill me, getting off it will kill me. (I just needed a successful exit process and to be DONE with it). SECOND PROBLEM-- It is not easy to find a doctor who will help you get off these meds, as they are trained to push people to stay on these drugs. They do not want you to EVER come off these drugs because they know about withdrawal and I'm telling you, not everybody, but so many doctors don't know how to control it. No doctor would help me get off this med, actually they refused. Which forced me to do it myself each time, unsuccessfully. I was 19 when I first took this med. I had social anxiety my whole life, and I couldn't even walk into stores alone. It was definitely a problem that was debilitating in my life. The "event" that made me go to a psych was being late to my first college class and having complete anxiety paralysis; I was unable to go into the class, and I went home and just dropped out of college. So clearly, something had to be done. I think this is just the consequence of us trying to live an unnatural life in a natural world, but I digress. Anyway, 10 years later, I'm off these meds and I'm still a completely different person. I can walk into stores just fine, I'm not scared of anything, I really wonder what would have happened if I gave myself that time and chance. Hell, what if I wasn't late for class that day? Would I have even started these drugs? Maybe but I'll never know. After quitting this med, I'm still having withdrawal symptoms. But I know I am going to be okay and it's my first time successfully quitting. I'm also grieving my sister and mom's death so I really feel like I can get through this because I just have nothing to lose at this point. I get through day by day and hope that the brain zaps and the insomnia and residual depression go away, but otherwise, I'm good yeah fuck this drug. I'm glad I'm done with it. I wish I could describe better as to why.... but I really am glad.

if u actually read the studies put out by the companies themselves u will see they have the same success long term as placebo in proper double blinded tests, and have dangerous side effects

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Paxil saved mine

I've been on it for 3 years. Depends on the person. I literally couldn't walk outside if it wasn't for paroxetine.

Proverbs 3:5-6 King James Version 5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Amirah That could be but reputable scientists have said for years that these pharma companies that produce ssris don't have scientific studies proving that there is a chemical imbalance that is corrected by ssri's. Further there are studies showing that vitamin d and tryptophan may provide a more direct and efficacious and cost effective approach to increasing brain levels of serotonin. "Vitamin D hormone regulates serotonin synthesis. Part 1: relevance for autism Rhonda P. Patrick1 and Bruce N. Ames1", www.fasebj.org/content/28/6/2398

For now it's helping you...

Is it Real Paxil or the generic version?

Effexor is expensive and the withdrawal from it is hell. I had vertigo for about 10 days, sweats and couldn't sleep. It didn't help much with my depression either. Everyone is different though.

Effexor worked for me.... until it didn't. Paxil worked for me... until it didn't. Zoloft worked for me... and still does. I've been on Zoloft for 15 years now. Different people have different brain chemistry, sometimes there's a bit of trial and error while figuring it out.

Yes, everyone is different. That's why patients should be monitored closely during the initial period of administration, but I don't like how this video has potential to further stigmatize mental health issues. The way I see it is that, like a diabetic, I need my antidepressants to live. My brain is dysfunctional without it just like people who have other medical issues who rely upon different medications.

يقول ان الادوية النفسية خطيرة و كلامة صحيح انا جتني مياة زرقاء بسبب الادوية هذي

Proverbs 3:5-6 King James Version 5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Angel Symmetrika yeah i have alot of experience on these meds unfortunately. I've been on all anti depressents nothing seems to work it keeps the edge off but none have been a miracle drug. I'm also on Clonazepam it works but I only take it when I'm very anxious.

Thibault but it shouldnt be that way... its supposed to help you but yet the first couple weeks u feel weird and like shit. i woke up at like 2 am on that shit with a trail following my hand. Wellbutrin has worked the besr for me. i stay away from SSRIs period

Angel Symmetrika I'm 21 I was diagnosed 7 years ago with generalized anxiety, social anxiety,depression and a now mild agrophobia. I have been getting help for 7 years as well nothing really seems to work I will be going to another CBT program soon with a major company here in Canada so hopefully it helps.

Sound like you work for big pharma. It's a known fact that antidepressants cause suicide