I CAN'T WAIT FOR Charlie and John Daly's kid to be on tour together!! Bring back some personality to the PGA!!!

Charlie Woods and Little John Daly Jr are the future of the PGA !

Nice!

You are correct sir!

You nailed it!

5 times in the video

That is Stuart, I could tell right away it wasn’t Payne.

Never mind this trivia, tell the truth about "Tiger's trip to the local airport where he adjusted or turned off the oxygen to Payne's airplane. NO one is above the law. John J H. !!!!!.

No one is above the law. Tell the truth about "Tiger's" actions. - Turning off the oxygen!!!! John Holt

I noticed that too.

@@gregbond7685 I guess the AI that wrote and put this video together can't tell the difference.

And they say AI is smarter than us. Humbug!

Freddie Couples has entered the chat ! ! 😅

@@stevehamman4465 So do you not allow people an opinion my friend? I've studied the golf swing for 50 years now and have played off plus 2 so I do have a bit of knowledge.

You can see the elegance in Moe Normans swing

@@Dentistmentalust actually nippy, I modeled my swing off of Paynes!! I carried a 2 handicap (18) myself. So I wasn't bashing your opinion, just saying that other golfers had very smooth swings. Moe Norman, was another. I've watched a few videos on his flight. It was a sad time for me. Good day sir!

Sam Snead the smoothies for me.

That’s bad and you know that it is.

and we should care why? You think people came here to find out about who your fav golfer is huh? You think this is about you?

No.

Depending on your wallet size,, expensive shoes dont need to be broken in! There are some custom shoe makers out there. Just saying!

@@stevehamman4465 Oh, you're right. There was an ultra premium custom golf shoe maker here in So Cal that I'm pretty sure made Payne's shoes for him. I know when I buy a pair of leather soled shoes it takes quite a while to break them in.

And used a photo of Stuart Appleby a few times in here.

It’s not that simple. Yes the Autopilot flew on it’s last assigned heading and the plane did run out of fuel and then crashed. But too many things were missed by the crew that should not have been for the lack of oxygen. The engine bleed valve that provides oxygen was found in the off position post crash. As was the crew’s oxygen mask valve that was shut off and not open during the external preflight as it should have been. I was told that a previous crew that flew Payne purposely shut off the bleed air valve so ice that formed quickly on the cabin interior windows could be scraped off and used for drinks. And the pilots had their oxygen masks on thinking they were getting oxygen. But they were not and everyone flew asleep and then died. Very sad but very logical to an unlikely scenario.

Exactly

@@stevez6499 The thing about scraping off ice for drinks I don't buy...sorry. Who was the person that told you that? To get ice on the windows would mean that everyone would be unconscious and not likely to be making drinks .That aircraft had not pressurized properly the day before and the bleed valve HAD been changed on the engine...but it wasn't test flown afterwards. So the Stewart flight was the first with the new valve and after take-off the pilots set the autopilot and during the climb the aircraft again didn't pressurize properly. Stewart had a reputation as a 'nice guy' but they said he was a stern business man and neither pilot wanted to be the one to have to go back and tell him that they were going to have to miss the appointments they had planned...while arguing who would do it you don't have very long at the excellent climb rate of the Lear before you will pass out...which is what happened according to what I was told. Seems that there are many versions of what happened...eh? I'm an A&P and worked with a fellow who got the call at Lear from the authorities asking how far it could fly on the fuel load it took off with...and the estimation was within a few miles of dead on accurate. It did over-fly several cities but the prediction was that it was going to go down in cow pastures so the escorting F-16's didn't take action and just followed it. The autopilot was set to climb and not for a particular altitude so it was flying along still trying to climb but was as high as it could go which varied around the 40,000 ft mark until it ran out of fuel and spiraled in. Everyone was frozen and identifying the broken chunks was a nightmare when they were dug out of the hole. Very sad.

@@recoilrob324 I was told it from a charter pilot that had done the exact thing on a previous flight for him. In the high humidity in Florida I think the frosting of the windows could happen. I don’t have any time in a Lear but thousands of hours in Gulfstreams. Being an A&P you certainly know there are visual and physical warnings that would indicate the bleed air valve was not open. If you missed the CAS message your ears would certainly tell you the cabin wasn’t pressurizing. And then climbing through a 13,000 foot or so cabin altitude, another warning would indicate cabin altitude high. And the bleed air valve was determined to be in the “off” position by the NTSB. The force of the impact did not change that from on to off. It was purposely turned off is the only logical explanation. And the crew thought they were getting oxygen in their quick donning masks. But no they weren’t. Yes the ice drink story seems far fetched but everything about it fits this accident perfectly. And we all know some charter pilots were no paid well back then and if Payne told them he’d throw them $2-300 to do that? I think it would happen as this other pilot admitted to doing earlier. Also I’ve been to an altitude chamber and at 25,000’ I was doing ok for more than 5 minutes. It’s very sad but hard to explain the accident with two pilots missing all the lack of pressurization clues. That just doesn’t work.

@@stevez6499 Thanks for the info! It's hard to explain without data recorder exactly what happened...seems there are lots of people offering 'informed' opinions that don't exactly jive with one another so what I was told might not be right. An aircraft landing in Miami in July will often be iced up having come down from -70F so maybe that's where the 'iced up window' story came from? I did get to participate in an NTSB investigation of a fatal Malibu crash years ago and how it was conducted didn't fill me with confidence that a jet that augured in upwards of 600 mph would leave controls in position so they could positively be identified pre-crash. The story about the aircraft not pressurizing properly the day before didn't detail what and how...just that the valve had been replaced...perhaps it began normal operation then failed? Meaning a control function not the valve as they're a pretty simple device and not likely to suddenly fail. That might also explain the pilots not getting oxygen from their masks if the control unit was the same....sorry I've never worked on a Lear...or any cockpit as I spent my time at P&W working on engines. Guess we'll never know the exact details of the crash other than for sure it wasn't pressurized and everyone died. Hopefully somewhere the truth IS known but maybe for insurance reasons is being kept on the down-low but quietly fixed. I'm positive this has happened in the past and I've absolutely no confidence in the FAA and other authorities to actually pinpoint a cause without details from data recorders to guide them. Fly safe my brother.

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Such a comment? Payne stewart was unique and added much needed style to a fairly stale dress code in golf plus his talent,wonderful sportsmanship and humanity-what are you on? Remember what he did with mountgomery in the ryder cup?