8HP Swapping my BMW E36

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Ай бұрын

I'm not a fan of automatic transmissions, but still. I'm swapping 8HP45 transmission from N55 to my 328i manual e36 and showing how it's done on this video.
CANTCU website: www.canformance.net/product/c...
CANTCU article at ms4x.net: www.ms4x.net/index.php?title=...

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@CrAzYDr1veR Ай бұрын

Subtitles: That went like father into mother 😅

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

That's what I said 😂

@MgBaggg Ай бұрын

See, that's where you're wrong. I would listen to you talk about this for hours. Also looking forward to the tuning

@sakariputtonen2683 Ай бұрын

each to their own. I cant bare to listen this. Suomeksi kiitos, ja tekstit lontooksi. 😅

@stug2374 Ай бұрын

@16 min the roadkill referance is amazing hi from Canada!

@turbowankel1264 Ай бұрын

Nice to see another one out there, just finished this swap for someone running in an M3, we opted for turbo lamik though as car was factory manual and owner wanted to retain clutch features that can't be offered with any other tcu set up. 👍

@user-dg5ni5yt6p Ай бұрын

Great project! 8HP all the things!

@NyxNick Ай бұрын

Thank you for your video, gives me inspiration to swap my 5hp from my E46

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

That's even simpler swap than this, because the car already has lot of things you need and do work with 8hp also.

@awk666 Ай бұрын

Exactly what I was looking for. My wife only wants to drive Automatic, and her first car is a 98 328iA E36 Coupe. The 5hp is so damn slow, and it's annoying, especially going uphill. And since it's losing oil it's full of clutch material, I didn't want to replace it with the same one and was looking for a 8hp but didn't know where to start. Thank you !

@finlay230 Ай бұрын

excellent vid and info, thanks for sharing !!!!

@8HPSolutions Ай бұрын

Nice video pazi! Having done the 8hp45 swap on a z3, it was fun using the BMW parts bin to mix and match driveshafts to fit.

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Yeah, mixing and matching parts is fun 😁

@911marcus Ай бұрын

Cool Project😊

@teamphashash Ай бұрын

YES! This is awesome.

@bucis123 Ай бұрын

8HP is awesome

@fayobam_mech_tronics Ай бұрын

Now I believe it's the ultimate transmission!

@HakenE30 Ай бұрын

I like this

@ahmadodibat4493 Ай бұрын

Part 2 plz ❤

@samthing4thetrack806 Ай бұрын

Excellent, looking at prices for these it is becoming a compelling swap, especially in the future as the manuals become harder to find. It is also an outstanding transmission, reliable. The hardest part so far mount and drive shaft. It would be good to know what the length of your final one will be( I assume this is the final one but no run time yet). part 2 part 2 part 2!!!

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

I'll measure the length of the driveshaft in the next part for reference. The part 2 should come out "soon". I have already filmed 95% of it and I have the setup working. I just need to get the engine to run better to be able to include some driving footage also.

@samthing4thetrack806 Ай бұрын

@@pazi88 awesome! yeah, production shots! :D

@sdagoespro Ай бұрын

MS43 throttle blip is currently under testing, and will be released this year :)

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

True. I asked about that from the developer and it should be released soon. It looks like I will be doing the 8hp on the X5 too, so I'll probaply use it in that.

@sdagoespro Ай бұрын

@@pazi88 I know him, he is me :D

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

@@sdagoespro Ah sorry. I didn't connect the nick 😄

@bgergo13 Ай бұрын

Hey! Im done with the gs6-37dz swap in an e46 320ci, based on your e39 video. :) But i used 320d clutch, different clutch shaft extender, different gear selector and drive shaft. It works like a dream, the car is much more "powerful" in 1-2-3 gears, and more economic in 6th, for approx 700 Eur its a very good upgrade. But, this swap seems to be very costly and complex compared with the manual 6. By the way i can imagin this swap for a tuned automatic 30d, to replace the crap GM gearbox.

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

It's really good swap indeed. I really liked that on my e39. Prolly best bang for buck transmission upgrade there is. The 8HP swap is indeed much more costly. But I wanted to try it anyways. I also went ahead and bought 8HP for my X5 to replace the GM slushbox in that 😁

@spikespiegel2246 15 күн бұрын

Ah, My Summer Car.

@spaghettilocomotive Ай бұрын

This has been a little dream of mine for a while, I have a '93 325iA coupe that I converted to M51D25 manual, and a part of me really misses the automatic (but the stock autos of the time are trash). Curious to see how the trans gets the tacho readout etc in order to switch gears at the right time. Also, as most probably knows you can use a linear potensiometer and have a "clutch pedal" for some "inspired driving" xD End game would be a M57D30 swap with a 8hp transmission. That would be my ultimate driving machine. EDIT: After actually watching the video in full: it would seem as that pairing a 8hp to the old diesel engine would be harder than first thought, so in reality I'd need to actually swap in an m57 engine at the same time.

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Yeah, you really need quite modern ecu that can accept torque/rpm requests from transmission. Although 8hp can work without those, but the shifting wont differ from old automatics then 😅 So yeah, you need the m57 swap too 😁 I think there is mod for dde4 that gets you throttle blibs in that with CANTCU.

@mostafaabubaker669 Ай бұрын

Ahh, we're gonna have to wait more for the next part!

@hassanalhaddar9654 8 күн бұрын

Hello bro ... Thank you so much for your beautiful video and information.... But i wonder what l shifter A/T you are using and can be also DTC 7HP ?!!!

@pazi88 8 күн бұрын

I'm using F-series 8-hp shifter, because those are cheap. But cantcu wiki has list of supported shifters: wiki.canformance.net/doku.php?id=cantcu:supportedshifters

@gdrozd555 Ай бұрын

Im about to do E36 M3 but with TurboLamik

@SHREDTOKILL Ай бұрын

hey pazi, where can i get that starter adapter in the states? im swapping my e46 daily to 8hp just because of this video.

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Domiworks is selling one, but it's quite expensive: www.domi-works.com/collections/8hp-adapter-kits/products/bmw-m5x-s5x-8hp45-n55-starter-motor-spacer But the guy who I got mine at ms4x.net discord server, is making new even cheaper batch. So those should be available soon.

@SHREDTOKILL Ай бұрын

@pazi88 ill hop on the discord, thank you for the quick response. Cheers brother.

@r34t9r Ай бұрын

Today i made one for myself, for 30bucks...

@Yeet-bm9if Ай бұрын

would the mosfet STP80NF03L be able to replace STP75NS04Z on the m50pnp? if not is there a good alternative? thanks

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

No. STP62NS04Z can be used as replacement. At least for now.

@alibabaei1953 12 күн бұрын

I hope these don't get expensive as fuck as 2jz 1jz did, they used to sell the whole car with a 1jz motor in it with 500 bucks. now the block alone is 5000 😂. i wish there was some tcu that could control fwd dual clutches

@qers Ай бұрын

2:15 Jesus christ that thing is done shifting before my feet have transferred energy to my shoes soles to go and press the clutch pedal. I've seen people starting to swap these 8HP45 units into Mazda Miatas, pretty much THE car in the world where everyone gets mad if it's an automatic. I'm thinking of using one in my E36, so I'll be following along. (Would also like an E34 540i Touring with M60B44 conversion and an appropriate 8HP conversion in the future too.)

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Yeah, I can imagine that 8HP in Miata can cause some butt hurt 😁

@TurboLamikUS 2 күн бұрын

HEY. Sweet car. Would be better if it was on TurboLamik Can you tell me the BMW part number for that plate u used for hole mockup/enlargement? Thanks

@pazi88 2 күн бұрын

@@TurboLamikUS Thanks. It's just m5x automatic cover. 11142243305

@gdrozd555 2 күн бұрын

@@pazi88 Youre gonna love the car with 8HP Check out my yesterdays test on a friends car (with TurboLamik) kzfaq.infoOC-nl0gxbCU

@EdRaket13 Ай бұрын

great idea wil this 8HP fit me e30 M50 325ix i need to fit the transfercase on the back

@EdRaket13 Ай бұрын

and posibole to connect to speeduino?

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

The e30 and e34 have their own transfer cases that don't fit any 8HP trans, without really special adapters. Though e46 transfercase might fit and because it's still mechanical one, it might work in e30 too. Speeduino isn't very good fit for 8HP, because it's missing DBW and torque modeling.

@becomematrix Ай бұрын

27:00 the workpieces seem to have massive runout

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

How come? It was set straight by dial gauge, to be within 0.01mm

@samu7889 Ай бұрын

Is that an N54 starter, or do the M5x starters mesh with the N54 flywheel?

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

It's m5x starter.

@Shari_Tejp Ай бұрын

Yes, i love the in detail 8hp content, great video! Can you please write somewhere here or in a video description what exact parts you use that you describe from minute 4 to minute 6. It is crucial information but sadly i can’t understand when do you say N and when do you say M. So please write it somewhere because i plan to swap my M54. Thanks

@Shari_Tejp Ай бұрын

I have actually turned on subtitles and i understood everything, thanks anyway. I love these kind of detailed builds, keep it up 👍

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Yeah, I was about to say that there's English subtitles too. I will still prolly do some sort of list of used parts, when this is complete and verified that everything works.

@Shari_Tejp Ай бұрын

@@pazi88 that would be great, also till now i only saw the transmission being bolted on the engine with the steel adapter plates that are cnc machined and are at least 1 cm thick. Do you think this plays a role because your transmission is now closer to the crankshaft because you bolted on the transmission directly to the engine

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

@@Shari_Tejp Well almost every other 8HP swap needs some sort of adapter between the engine and trans, because the bell housings don't match. And also custom flex plate etc. But as I said this N55 8HP45 swap to M5x is one of the easiest/cheapest, because it doesn't require those kind of big and expensive adapters.

@tomasm.7696 Ай бұрын

What dust cap Plate between block and the gearbox was used?

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

E46/e36 auto one

@tomasm.7696 Ай бұрын

Hello there, why didnt you try to use f10 dust cover between engine and gearbox, and why didnt you try to fit the f10 starter?

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

In theory the F10 dust cover would have worked. But you can easily check the holes to be grind with m5x one. And the n55 starter would also need adapter, because it also bolts to block and not to the trans

@tomasm.7696 Ай бұрын

Thanks man. Is there any chance to receive the starter adapter measurements for making my own bracket? Thanks

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

@@tomasm.7696 Sorry, I don't have any measurements of that.

@WickedTRX Ай бұрын

There's also MaxxECU now, for me it's the most viable option.

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Yeah, it was't out yet when I filmed this. And not sure if it's out of beta even at the moment.

@tonistaru Ай бұрын

Is that a tcu function in the maxxecu or just a separate standalone tcu?

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

@@tonistaru the maxxecu itself controls the TCU inside the trans like CANTCU does. But it only supports dodge protocol currently. And I have no idea how well that works in ie. 8hp45 etc.

@WickedTRX Ай бұрын

@@pazi88 It's in Beta public, It works with a modified Dodge protocol, that custom firmware must be flashed to any BMW, Jaguar etc. transmission. Really easy to setup torque tables and logics to get it working great. Ditching all the hard work done by OEM engineers by using external controller it's a terrible idea for a street car.

@ECUGarageCZ Ай бұрын

@@WickedTRX its not, we have TCU Lamik (external controller) for street daily car and it works flawlessly

@sweissco345 Ай бұрын

Would you recommend a 8hp45 on a 500hp turbo m50 ?

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Yeah. It just be just about enough for that. Higher power level and you probaply want to go with 8hp70

@HerkkoBenjamin Ай бұрын

Onko ollu hyviä nuo ryobin akkuvehkeet? Kiinnostas itellä kans hinnan puolesta nuo tai sitte hikoki on toisena vaihtoehtona

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Joo aivan hintasekseen käypäsiä vehkeitä. Eihän noita mihinkään milkkariin tms. voi verrata, mut hintaakin on se kolmasosa niiden hinnoista 😄 Et voin kyllä suositella tämmöseen harrastekäyttöön.

@nikoladzoni484 21 күн бұрын

Hello Can 8hp transmission install to work with ms41 e39 528i?

@pazi88 14 күн бұрын

Well, as I said in the video. It should work if you swap the ms41 to ms43 and run alpina bin in that.

@nikoladzoni484 14 күн бұрын

@@pazi88 tnx man

@timosgarage Ай бұрын

Et ole ajatellut tarjota 8HP swappia palveluna muillekin e36/e39 omistajille? Kysyntää luulisi lajinsa olevan.

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Ei mulla tahdo olla aikaa tehdä muille, kun hädin tuskin kerkeän näitä omia projekteja tekemään... Mut on tässä alustavasti sovittuna ainakin yksi 8HP swappi ens talvelle.

@imnota Ай бұрын

You really have a 320/323 single exhaust on a build that is supposed to make 300hp ? What size is the pipe ?

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

As I said briefly in the video, that it will be replaced with 3" exhaust.

@imnota Ай бұрын

@@pazi88 Missed that but I did figure it was temporary, however always wondered if this was genuinely a restriction. Well for 300hp it probably is but you see people swapping stock b25 or b28 in a 320i and worry about the single pipe and always wondered if it was valid concern.

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

@@imnota I made ~230hp with my m52b28 using the s52 cams and that exhaust. So it's prolly some sort of restriction, but not a very big one.

@tomasm.7696 Ай бұрын

When part2 is coming of the video? :D

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Hopefully soon 😅 I'm currently doing last of the items to get everything sorted, so lets hope there is no extra hurdles to come 😁

@tomasm.7696 Ай бұрын

@@pazi88 i already bought the box yesterday, so now i am waiting for part2😁

@mannine99 Ай бұрын

0:17 that round thing is called mehumaija

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

😂

@mannine99 Ай бұрын

@@pazi88 puhuitte autodocin videosta petyin kun en kuullut sitä musiikkia

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

@@mannine99 Ois pitäny laittaa vissiin sit 😁

@mannine99 Ай бұрын

@@pazi88 perhana kyllä polttelis mersun jatkoksi saada itelleki 8hp, mulla ei taida vaan olla tilaa eikä kyllä viittis alkaa tunneloimaan koria

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

@@mannine99 Nämä on kyl yllättävän siroja mitoiltaan toki alareuna on aika massiivinen, mut yläpuolelta/sivuilta tuntu et jäi autoon enemmän tilaa mitä tolla 320Z manuaalilla. Kytkinkopan pultteihinkin pääsi helpommin käsiksi, mitä sillä. 8hp70 on ulkomitoiltaan lähes sama vielä, mitä 8hp45. Se on vaan vähän paksumpi. Mut nuo ulokkeet yms. On silti samat.

@niko7090 Ай бұрын

Mitä ite oo 8hp ajanu muutamalla eri merkillä niin kyl se silti on se zf 5 tai 6 vaihteinen manuaali huviautoon kivempi, nopeammaksihan tuolla saa kun on pykäliä enempi niin saa pidettyä kierrokset kokoajan sillä parhaalla alueella mikä on polttomoottorissa tosi kapea alue

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Joo ihan samaa mieltä oon. E30:ssä kyllä pysyy manuaali edelleenkin.

@Beansswtf Ай бұрын

Hahahaha so true about Autodoc videos

@r34t9r Ай бұрын

Wby cantcu, ot turbolamik?

@turbowankel1264 Ай бұрын

Depends on your use. If it's more street the cantcu is a great set up. If you want to retain your clutch pedal and have clutch kicks and use trans brake for launches the Lamik is the only option for that. Both are excellent products though and work very well out the box.

@r34t9r Ай бұрын

@@turbowankel1264i currenty working very similar setup (b28tu, ms43, 8hp45 and turbolamik tcu on my e46) and im very exited how its gonna work. ;)

@mankiface Ай бұрын

Suomalainen rallienglanti on näköjää vielä hauskemman kuulosta ku laittaa toistonoppeuden -05x 😂

@eeturautiainen7523 Ай бұрын

😂

@BUZDRIFT Ай бұрын

The CAN TCU is not for your swap, should have bought the Turbolamik If you miss the clutch that is!??

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

I don't see the point if having clutch pedal in automatic. Why not just stay manual then 😅 I didn't say I miss the clutch. I meant that I don't like automatics because those have been really shit to drive over the years. Untill 8HP came out.

@BUZDRIFT Ай бұрын

@@pazi88 OK, yep.. Fair enough. I've done the same swap a year ago with the 8HP90 to 2J in a E36 and the only thing I miss about the manual is the H patter nostalgia! 8HP holds more power shifts faster, and I have a combo of Auto, Sequential and paddle shifter, will never go back to manual! Plus Clutch by wire is super fun for doing powerskids, yes I'm Aussie lol

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

@@BUZDRIFT I still have my E30 turbo with manual and it will stay like that 😄 Manual is way more fun, especially on overly powerful car like that. But this will be more like Time Attack car, so fast shifting auto should work great, and no need for clutch in that.

@chriswilson3196 Ай бұрын

sorry about your upcoming left leg amputation? lol

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Luckily my e30 gives my twice the clutch leg workout 😁

@antiyc Ай бұрын

Mielenkiintonen rojekti kyllä

@rouhiainenrasmus1535 Ай бұрын

On muuten varmaan kesällä makija tuo ulkonosturi

@pazi88 Ай бұрын

Noh. Talvella kylmä siinä ja kesällä kuuma ja hyttysiä 😅 Mut tuolla sisällä ei riitä korkeus katossa, niin nosturi on sit hallin puolella mitä ei oo eristetty mitenkään.