That's the highest score that ball has ever seen!

It might be worth just having that ball show up in a practice session for the reaction of the other PBA players... lol

It’s as old as all my grandparents 😊

Ahhh...Rubber. Back when the Bowling Giants walked the earth and bowling mattered more to the average person than baseball or football.

This ball is a tournament staple. Always put it in the bag

“This ball *does not* hook.” *Proceeds to hook it hard every bowl.*

I use a Manhattan rubber ball from the 1960's as my spare ball. I'm a righty that had major 10-pin issues in high school, and nothing worked (including plastic). I picked that up off the rack one Sunday morning, made all five 10-pins I left in a three-game series, and kept it. It makes for a fun story when I take it out of the bag alongside equipment 50 years its junior!

Just in case you still thought it was the bowling balls that have inflated scores, let this put it to rest. It has been and will continue to be the lane conditions that have blown the scoring pace out of reasonability. Modern synthetic lane beds + modern conditioners + sanction lane machines = inflated scores.

I love watching Packy bowl. He is so freakin talented and down to earth.

“Ball doesn’t hook, thats I’ve learned” /ball hits pocket coming back from the edge of the gutter 😂 It’s always the bowler more than the ball tho.

1984 US Open. Guppy Troup nearly wins the US open with a three-dot rubber ball. It was so epic. Roth got lucky and Guppy left a 10-pin. Guppy was simply epic. With a rubber ball! Maybe in 20 years you'll be the guy who wins a tournament with a relic ball-a purple Hammer. ;-)

I’m a mechanic at a bowling alley, we have one of these laying outside and I’ve been using it to practice two handed bowing through grass and hitting a concrete wall…… I really wish I didn’t do that I didn’t know how special it was, someone was throwing it away and I was like “cool a disposable practice ball” I regret it so much, I’m going to try to resurface it and get it back to way it should be

So I used to use Petraglia LT48, Columbia 300, and other 1970's balls....what I'd like to see are lanes oiled like we bowled on in the 60's and 70's....1962 AMF oiler with 3 spray nozzles about 12" above the lane.... As it went down the lane there would be a cloud above the machine...there was no putting additional oil in the center than on the outside.....this was on wood lanes, not sythetic....that's the challenge I'd like to see...thanks for the video..

Those old rubber balls were rocks. When I started bowling all we had was rubber and plastic balls on a wood lanes with lacquer finish, no urethane or reactive.

“I don’t know if it will make it out of the car” 😆😆

Someone walked out of my bowling center sporting my 1960's AMFlite rubber ball, but I was using that for my corner pins because even plastic house balls were hooking in the oil for me. The only ball I had that ever went straight no matter how much hand and angle I used. I loved it. I miss it.

it was cool seeing Justin Hromek, remember watching him as a kid on the tour!

As someone who has worked at the National Bowling Hall of Fame, when it was in St. Louis, I have seen almost all of the bowling balls that have been made. Nice shooting Sir.

I started bowling in the early 60s. First ball was Brunswick Black Beauty but do not know what core that had nor this relic from the past. Would be interesting to find wood lane to see how it would react compared to synthetic lane surface. Was fun and interesting video Packy. Justin Hromek one of my favorites, just quietly went about his business when competing.

I saw one of those on the rack of an older alley that still had natural wood lanes. The lanes were extremely dry, so I decided to pick it up and roll it like it was intended - full roller 🙂 (I'm not naturally a full roller. I just knew in theory how to do it). Shot a 180 or so, which wasn't bad for goofing off with a release i had no prior experience with.

Your videos are by the most entertaining bowling videos on the internet. Even non bowlers can enjoy your videos, they are so relaxing to watch. In particular your videos with Mitch and Kevin Williams are a pleasure to watch. That ball could be useful; it should make an excellent spare ball on very dry conditions. Years ago I loved my Manhattan Rubbers. They roll better and hit harder than the Mineralite and AMF 3 dot. The green Manhattan Rubber believe it or not was harder than the black, and used for drier conditions. It did go straighter than the black one, but it hit like pud, even on very dry lanes. My first few balls were Black Beauties. I think that they reacted as well as Manhattan Rubbers. I finished in the top 4 in tryouts for the University of Nebraska bowling team in 1975 with the 3 dot, on fairly oily lanes with a long pattern, but the ball was awful. In 1978 I got an LT48 which was the softest or one of the softest rubber balls ever made I loved the way that it rolled, and my carry percentage was exceptional with it. I wish that I could have hit the pocket more often. Ernie Schlegel was fantastic with rubber balls on tough lane conditions. When I tried to throw the ball straighter, I called it Schlegeling the lanes, but I wasn't very good at it. You might prefer an original black Manhattan Rubber or a Black Beauty to your Mineralite.

The comparison shots at the end are very telling specially with the urethane hooking the entire lane on THS LOL!!

Bet that rubber ball stunk up the pro shop when it was redrilled

I bowl with my grandfather's 16lb Black Diamond bowling ball. It is most definitely over 50 years, and I recently bowled a 181 game with it. It is the only ball I use.

Have you thrown any Rhinos from the late 80's, early 90's? The Teal Rhino Pro....awesome.

This was fun. Thanks for the content!

Imagine if you threw like that when the ball came out, I’d love to see the reaction you’d get from the crowd in a 30’s bowling alley 😂

thanks for more great content! crazy relic of a ball.

so good to see Justin Romack again, i remember watching him in the late 90s and early 2000s

Great content as always Packy! Hope to see you at Northrock in the spring.

That would be perfect at my main house in Omro, Wisconsin. Old, inconsistent beat up lanes with 60y/o machines. It's so insanely wet/dry there but it definitely makes you a better bowler

You got the perfect position and calculated the perfect hook to be ultra consistent pretty damn quick with the rubber.

I used to use a Don Carter 2 for spares. Wasn't good for much else, but I did manage a 240 game in a scratch league with it, back when the house would oil once in the morning and whatever we got at the end of the night after a full day of traffic is what we had to deal with. Wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Did you put any surface on the ball? I loved my LT48

Throw that on Wolf and Cheetah.....you'd win half the tourney's on tour lol

Did you resurface it? I'm curious to see how it'd roll at like 360 grit

I have two old fireballs from the 50s and I use them quite often. They were my grandparents balls

I found a Manhattan Rubber at an estate sale and the looks I get when I pull that out during the 3rd game in league when everybody's urethane stuff is hooking at their feet is priceless lol.

That was lot of fun! How cool would it be to see you roll that in a tournament?!? Thanks for the awesome video!!

Love these types of videos.

I have a AMF rubber bowling ball not sure how old but great spare ball for corner pins

even the sound of that ball is Delicious

Holy Moly! I was looking at that ball on ebay. Or at least something similar.

In the intro Packy looks like limp bizkit from back in the day 😂

I have a Brunswick Fireball (red/black swirl rubber) from circa 1955 that I've used on occasion, and still have my Roto Star X2 that I got for my 15th birthday in 1975... they do have their niche uses today IMO.

great video

This is awsome .. you are very talented.

That was so much fun! Thanks

I’m sure the original user is probably dead now, but imagine bringing them back to life so they could see what you were doing with their ball. They’d be absolutely stunned and think you’re a wizard

The hammer ball is one of a kind! Currently have one and I have to say it is amazing!

Thank you, I'm pleased with your challenge, A++.

My grandmother tried to get me to switch to a thumb & one finger drilling back in 1970 when I was bowling for Winona State in the NAIA.

It’s amazing how much difference one pound makes on how a bowling ball hits although some of the balls from back then where pushing almost 17lbs and I know at one point there was an 18lb ball my old house had one it was an old rubber ball, couldn’t bowl with it in league just open bowlers

For rubber it still has a little bit of hook even on today's oil conditions.

As a bowler myself. Mad of how long bowling as been going on. Its a sport guys!

Funny, Brunswick Mineralite's were made during the conservation of rubber around WW2. They are not made of 100% rubber. Given how they smell ( like Sh1t) when you drill them I've always wonder what the additive was mixed into the rubber. Under no circumstances do they react like a true rubber ball such as a Manhattan Rubber or an AMF 3 Dot and if I'm not mistaken they don't have a weight block. NO, I'm not dating myself I started drilling balls at the age of 10, wait that still makes me old :-) Enjoy the adventure!!

They should bring back the rubber ball and put a core in it. That would dominate short and dry patterns

SHAGGY ! You did great !

Damn I was honestly thinking 190, I forgot it was Packy Heavyhand ripping on it!

gotta question ok I bowl straight i average between 160 to 180 and the ball we have is over 20 years old I've called and found out its a great spare ball im looking to finally get my own ball imnot trying to hook anything so I've been told a twist or rhino what do you suggest

Now you’re making me wanna plug up my RotoGrip Roto Star Rubber now and roll it 😭😭

I started bowling in 1965 with a Manhattan Rubber as a preteen.

this the best video yet

Pretty good ball for being 80 years old. Never would have thought it was that old.

Hell yea! that is cool as! My grandpa actually plays/played for Australia (covid and what not) and before that for that last 15+ years, he's been to Japan Germany, Guam.

You should look for super old wood lanes to see this ball in action

I'm trying to figure out how bowlers in the 30s were able to hold on to a 16 pound ball with only their middle finger & thumb.

"This ball does not hook..." (proceeds to peal it off the lip, lol)

I keep a rubber ball in my bag for a spare ball or if the lanes are dry. Just shot a 257 on a dry Sunday shot. Just remember rubber likes to read and move early. They do like a 320 grit finish.

So i almost picked up the green church but the pin had landed perfect

Great video concept

I use a rubber black beauty and got a 279 front 9 9 spare strike in tenth all about finess lol

I can see you throwing it on like cheetah or wolf if it responds to friction that well

Packy are you still doing reviews of peoples games? I have a follow up review after practicing!

Please make more videos of you using this ball.

Always use old Urethanes, I use a Ebonite FireBolt II and a Columbia 300 Vector 2. True Urethanes

In the late 80s, I was using an Axis weighted Black Diamond. After that, I frequently used a Columbia 300 Blue Dot. Now, not having bowled for years, I can't hook s#!+. Lol

Hope to see you up at Seneca or west acres

Hey I have a phase 2 that looks super faded from leaving it in the car. Do you think its still useable? Or should I get rid of it?

Yeah those old bowling balls make the entire bowling alley smell terrible when getting drilled. lmao

threw first 300 with Black Beauty in mid 90s. several with plastic and urethane since. one reactive....like low stuff better.

Challenge Belmo to try the same!

when i first saw the thumbnail i thought it was talking about the person lol

You really knocked it out of the park.

16 pound of carry. Good job.💣

I throw 16 pounds and I find that 16 pounds hits and drives through the pins harder than a 15 or 14 pound ball.

My LT48 is modern compared to that mineralite 🤣

You said. 16# just hits different. No truer words have ever been spoken. Btw mineralite sounds like asbestos.

Hey packy I was just wondering how did you get your bowling career started in looking to become a pro bowler

Hey I found brunswick black beauty and the serial number is C3H728 does anyone know how old the ball is. Thanks

we wanna see it on wood lanes!

Does that DV8 plastic ball roll just like your crown jewel, even on carry down?

It would come in handy for hand oiled wood lanes

This is so sick

This was so cool. And really makes u wonder whats the point of buying 300 balls for league lol

Oh great...now we're going to see the pros throwing rubber on the telecasts :P

You proved a great point its not the ball, its the bowler who makes the score happen.

What lane conditon was this on ? a 24' house shot ?? lol

That Spy with the core looks like it could be a nasty ball.

7:20 pardon my complete ignorance of everything bowling besides the basics, but why would someone need to bring 20 balls to a tournament? 2 to use and 18 backups? Or because the lanes can be different from place to place so you need some options? Cool video btw, thanks