PCGS details or ANACS graded? Which is better to have?

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2 ай бұрын

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PCGS, or the Professional Coin Grading Service, is one of the most renowned and trusted coin grading services globally. Founded in 1985, PCGS revolutionized the coin collecting industry by introducing a standardized grading system that provided collectors and investors with a reliable way to assess the condition and authenticity of coins. PCGS employs a team of expert graders who meticulously examine coins using state-of-the-art equipment and techniques to determine their grade and authenticity.
The PCGS grading process follows strict guidelines established by numismatic experts and utilizes a 70-point grading scale, with higher numbers indicating better condition and preservation. The grading scale ranges from Poor (1) to Perfect Mint State (70), with additional designations for coins that have been damaged, cleaned, or altered in any way.
When submitting coins for grading, collectors can choose from various grading tiers depending on their specific requirements. The standard grading tier evaluates coins based on their overall condition, while specialized tiers cater to specific coin types, such as modern, world, or ancient coins. Additionally, PCGS offers special designations for coins with exceptional qualities, such as Full Bands or Full Steps, which denote well-defined details on specific coin features.
One of the key features of PCGS grading is the encapsulation of graded coins in tamper-evident holders, known as slabs, which provide protection and authentication. Each slab includes essential information about the coin, such as its grade, certification number, and variety attribution, ensuring transparency and security for collectors and investors.
PCGS also offers a variety of services beyond standard grading, including restoration, regrading, and crossover services for coins graded by other certification companies. Additionally, PCGS provides a wealth of educational resources, including articles, videos, and seminars, to help collectors better understand the grading process and improve their numismatic knowledge.
The PCGS Guarantee stands as a testament to the company's commitment to accuracy and integrity. Coins encapsulated in PCGS holders are backed by a guarantee of authenticity and grade, providing collectors with peace of mind and confidence in their numismatic investments.
Overall, PCGS details grading represents the gold standard in the coin collecting industry, offering collectors and investors a reliable and transparent way to assess the condition, authenticity, and value of their coins. With its rigorous grading standards, advanced technology, and commitment to customer satisfaction, PCGS continues to uphold its reputation as a leader in the numismatic community.
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@followedd Ай бұрын

Awesome video Thanks!

@jeffd3660 2 ай бұрын

Great video , thanks for the update .... P.S. ....I don't mind ANACS , except I think maybe they could do something different for their label + in my opinion a valuable coin is going to be valuable regardless of what slab holder it's in 🤔

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

I just wish they’d change the label color

@keemo63301 2 ай бұрын

Just wish ANACS would come out with a better looking holder.

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

I don’t mind the holder as much as the color. I’d even pay more if they had something like a retro holder “upgrade”. I like the old old holders

@robbonaiuto3501 26 күн бұрын

The old blue color label was far better. Yellow? Never looked good. Yellow signals a mental caution. Not a good thing.

@jerridhawkins8133 2 ай бұрын

Can’t wait for the result

@TobaccoRowe1960 2 ай бұрын

Mix the EZest With the kids toy "Slime" and dump the Q-Tip.

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

Interesting 🤔

@KY_Coins_and_Collectible-wk7xx 2 ай бұрын

Great video brother very interesting

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@TobaccoRowe1960 2 ай бұрын

I need to see the Reverse, the Fields under and beside the Wings. I spoke about this in my last video. Obverse looks pretty good.

@nOPE-fs3du 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate the testing your doing (PCGS to ANACS, then possibly back to PCGS) very interesting. What do you think of NGC though?

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

I’ve heard good things but never tried them myself. I probably will try them down the road.

@aantunez5391 2 ай бұрын

HATE HATE HATE NGC - never again

@chrisb.h4605 2 ай бұрын

@@aantunez5391 They are too happy to give out Details Cleaned designations.. and seem to want to manipulate the market... a coin given a MS66/65 from many years ago .. would now get a MS61/ 62 ... fact .. not just my opinion .. as have multiples .. some older graded and some newly graded ..

@LarryPoirier 2 ай бұрын

I really appreciate this video. Many times, I disagree with 3rd party grading. This just adds fuel to my fire to BUY THE COIN and not the holder. I'm happy with ANACS grading and the holders are good IMHO. PCGS are like bullies on a playground.

@robbonaiuto3501 26 күн бұрын

I think you’re shuts seeing PCGS and NGC tighten up in repo se to CAC. A good thing? I guess time will tell. A lot of gradeflation over the last 20 years…

@TobaccoRowe1960 2 ай бұрын

I'm going to make a response video to this In October 😁

@LenHere 2 ай бұрын

Love ANACS, great video. I would NOT send those graded coins back to PCGS, they look down their nose at ANACS and I think they have a bias against them, based on videos I've seen from guys like Ben the Coin Geek.

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

I agree. I sent 4 coins to them recently for crossover. The only one they didn’t crossover was an ANACS one they said was cleaned. An old holder too. I double checked and yeah there was an itty bitty single line in the reverse. Imo not cleaned but they just disregard any coin that has a line on it.

@davidlee5931 2 ай бұрын

How much did those 10 coins cost to get graded? Awesome video bud!

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

Not sure exactly but I think the normal cost is $16 per coin. Right now they’re having a sale for 10 coins or more it’s $14 each. If you want varieties and whatnot that costs extra. Thanks for watching!

@cgcoins3639 2 ай бұрын

With that Morgan, as soon as you turn it at an angle, the surface goes dark.... a clear sign of cleaning!

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

That’s just not the case. Coins that have near PL and DMPL surfaces do this all the time.

@cumminsdodge045 2 ай бұрын

I agree with rocky on this one. I just bought two ngc graded Morgan’s that caught my eye in the case at a coin show and they had that appearance of going dark and the dealer said you saw those too that they are PL coins but not graded as such. So I bought them cause they are definitely PL coins without the designation. Even when photographed they look dark in the fields like amazing proof like coins.

@jrpcoins 2 ай бұрын

It’s hard for me being how I feel anacs over grades and pcgs is a bit more accurate but yes a details holder kinda shoots all value down the drain at any rate. So I’d go with anacs if it was determined cleaned by pcgs

@frankchase9297 2 ай бұрын

I use ANACS similar to the way you do.

@EricBynog-zd4rd 2 ай бұрын

Also I think you realized those coins are not going to bring top dollar in those holders is why your want to cross them over and i don’t blame you I am not a pcgs fan at all but it’s only because I dislike there holders I hate them love the rattler and old soap box but I think NGC has best looking holder out rite now

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

A lot of this is done simply to experiment with the different companies. I don’t sell my coins. So I’m only slabbing them to preserve them, test my own grading and variety spotting and use PCGS registry. Since I began by using PCGS, I got stuck with their registry.

@duanedas5346 2 ай бұрын

Good for you stand your ground.....

@jeffreyarbogast4735 2 ай бұрын

MS70 is superb stuff. Not any chemical action on the metal (it is a detergent, originally designed for cleaning of golf balls at driving ranges) . . . but surely takes off a lot of the 'haze'. Just rinse well and Q-Tip the application, and you are good to go. Silver mainly . . . most BU copper I have tried does the traditional 'blue' color as a result. WarNicks and Morgies are good-to-go.

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

I restore almost everything with it now. Now that I know I won’t get details graded

@TobaccoRowe1960 2 ай бұрын

The reason a Grading Company has to be so particular with it's standards is because, the coin has to be able to be purchased sight unseen. And these standards got more stringent in 1998 when PCGS started business. This is also the time Van Alan and Mallis released the 4th edition of the VAM Encyclopedia & Catalog of Morgan and Peace Dollars.

@epicstudios7270 2 ай бұрын

You’re intro😱😱😱😱

@noozienomore 22 күн бұрын

Rocky... do you never use NGC?

@rockysramblings 22 күн бұрын

I have not yet

@noozienomore 22 күн бұрын

@@rockysramblings Curious as to why. I've found them to be accurate and easy to deal with. Even easier, since any NGC dealer in my town can drive over and pick up the coins when they're ready. Always nice to have a TPG locally, right?

@aantunez5391 2 ай бұрын

What is your plan if you re-submit the ANACS graded coins and they come back cleaned? Send once again to ANACS to get the straight grade (again)? Whew - that's a lot of money.

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

No I’ll submit to PCGS in the slab for crossover and if it doesn’t match my minimum grade then they won’t crack it out. I also won’t submit all of them. I may only do one or two of the more valuable ones.

@shtivb2263 2 ай бұрын

I'm getting to the point I'm about to move away from PCGS, I have had HORRIBLE results the last four of so submissions. Getting ready to send my first shipment to NGC.

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

I haven’t used NGC but I’ve heard good things. The only reason I haven’t is because I don’t want to buy another membership and I’ve been quite happy with ANACS.

@shtivb2263 2 ай бұрын

@@rockysramblings I have been seeing a lot more people move to ANACS as of recent, maybe I'll consider too.

@chrisb.h4605 2 ай бұрын

@shtivb2263 you may find NGC are worse than PCGS for giving cleaned designations .. when clearly they are not! but when you look at some older grades .. both have overgraded and not called out coins that have clearly been cleaned! it's getting hard.. whoever you choose.. all I would say is NGC coin holders are by far the best! ANAC's holders always look cheap and scratched up... looks like they were made in a cheap Chinese factory ... if they made more of an effort , I could see them getting more customers.. IMHO ..

@shtivb2263 2 ай бұрын

@@chrisb.h4605 I have had issues in with the grades and with questionable color designation not so much with being cleaned. Was just looking at ANACS pricing and turnaround times, I might change next shipment to them. 🤔

@Indigone_Demon 2 ай бұрын

I love ANACS for minor varieties or CRH finds. Unfortunately, the market wants PCGS, CACG, or NGC for Morgans so I don't waste my time getting ANACS to slab them. ANACS is definitely my #2 TPG, but their lack of set registry and sub-par pop reports/user friendliness hurts them more than it should IMO.

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

It is kind of funny how things like that or “ugly” slabs can stop people from buying a coin or paying better money for it. I Hope that in time and maybe with the help of these experiments of mine people will be willing to pay better money for ANACS. With more business and profits I think they would eventually get more user friendly. Their customer service is top notch. I wish they’d get a registry and app.

@typeviic1 2 ай бұрын

The graders at PCGS and ANACS are professionals. The graders at PCGS, NGC, CACG and ANACS are interchangeable. Everyone with half a brain cell understands this. Getting an ANACS straight grade (or even NGC) increases the value over any Details holder. The "market" snubs ANACS because..... 1. Ugly yellow holders. 2. No online registry set 3. No online price guide. 4. ANACS slabs dont fetch "top" the money at auction for the 3 reasons above. BTW, PCGS cleaned coins are not 100% visual. All a PCGS grader has to do is think/feel/believe a coin is cleaned and label it as such. You know how everyone agrees that coin grading is subjective? Cleaned coins without any visual proof is also subjective.

@cgcoins3639 2 ай бұрын

I agree with you 100 percent!

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. You said it better than myself lol. My biggest complaint about ANACS is your first two listed. But at the same time I feel it’s a chance to pick up coins a bit cheaper when they’re in an ANACS holder.

@typeviic1 2 ай бұрын

I hope you dont give PCGS the idea of creating a new Details designation called "Unc Details Rubbed against something in someone's pocket".

@chrisb.h4605 2 ай бұрын

Now the real test will be ... to see if PCGS will grade the ANACS coins back.. as not cleaned... or just refuse to cross! I doubt they'd give the exact grades back .. maybe a point below! but you gotta remember NGC / PCGS don't particularly like each other and so ... don't cross many coins either... politics...

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I doubt I’ll send them all to PCGS but I will probably try to find the best two or three and see what PCGS does. I do worry about them not crossing it over just because they dislike ANACS. Personally I feel the grades are similar with both companies and I’ve had hundreds graded by both companies 🤷🏼‍♂️

@terricornell4201 2 ай бұрын

Why don’t you try ngc

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

Not opposed to it I just don’t want to pay the subscription at this point. I probably will eventually

@SavageCouture 2 ай бұрын

The belly button may be a rockwell hardness test mark. I believe it would occur somewhere between annealing and the die adjustment steps of production. A small round dimple with a smooth bottom that will become elliptical, egg shaped, or distorted to some degree as the metal spreads into the relief areas of the die. They spread towards the center and the high relief areas. One applied after the strike wouldn’t display spreading and would produce anvil effect damage on the opposite side. This could potentially be that.

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

Very interesting to know. Thank you! I have another somewhere in my collection and I’ve had other people tell me they have ones that have it also.

@robertbihn3005 2 ай бұрын

10/15 years ago I used to buy ebay PCGS cleaned coins, crack open and sell on ebay again

@cgcoins3639 2 ай бұрын

If you don't like getting details grades because coins are cleaned... how about quit cleaning coins yourself! Plus I'm glad you are a cleaning professional and would know someone is going to clean the whole coin, not just a little area.... SERIOUSLY, SMH!

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

I’ve cleaned hundreds of coins and had them straight graded. I’ve made videos on it. These coins were not cleaned by myself before going to PCGS. I cleaned them before going to ANACS. It is possible to restore your coins yourself. And yeah I’ve done it with coins to PCGS too.

@cgcoins3639 2 ай бұрын

@@rockysramblings cleaned hundreds of coins, now that's a numismatic accomplishment to be proud of 👍

@rockysramblings 2 ай бұрын

@@cgcoins3639 sorry did I use the wrong word for a professional? “Restored” I do the same thing that PCGS does. They straight grade my CLEANED coins.

@Kenlydford 2 ай бұрын

Do you purchase slabbed pcgs coins? If so how do you know that they haven’t been cleaned (restored) by them? I would bet you would cringe watching them “restore” coins. Do they have a secret magical method that nobody knows of…