As spicy as this got, I love how wholesome it became at the end.

Mutual Respect*

I liked that a lot too. Two legends and they’ll go out with mutual respect and admiration for each other. RIP Maradona.

Prima Donna was a flaming ahole and Pele was a little cocky at times. Easy to pick the better guy.

@@David-iv6je Maradona was a worse dude, but Pelé is also a bad person. The video glossed over some of Maradona’s worst attributes but it also glossed over Pelé’s awful stuff too. It made no mention of how Pelé treated his daughter, for example. Both came out of this video looking like better people than they really were. Pelé is a bad human being and Maradona was a very bad person. Both incredible players of course.

Tell that to Lebron fans

@@slyfox2022 Tell that to sports fans period

@@slyfox2022 thats funny, As a lebron fan i feel like this side is simply fighting for the “admire eachother more” aspect. reactionary defense to the lebron slander from nostalgics and constant MJ being thrown around while this is lebron’s era and he is still playing. If anything the appreciate eachother more is directed to the MJ crowd, Who try to diss lebron at every turn. The debate itself is pointless. Lebron fans dont bring it up bc they just appreciate watching him. It wouldnt be talked about if MJ fanatics didnt think he was in the conversation. Just appreciate lebron while he is still goin.

@@lucaslonchampt613 because they love it.

@@slyfox2022 and Curry and Giannis fans.

RIP 🇧🇷🏆🔟🏆🇦🇷

cara, eu fiz EXATAMENTE a mesma coisa! que vídeo fantástico

The only counties that hate each other more are probably Russia and Ukraine, and the Koreas

Uruguay has entered the chat. cough* Maracanazo cough*

As an argentinian, i couldn't agree more

@@davincisama too long ago, none cares anymore…besides, we got a way worse humiliation to be ashamed about(7-1)….

The games changed so much you can’t compare

True true but, Maradona is better.

@@limonator8280 You're not funny mate

@@lucaslonchampt613 I didn’t say any jokes , Pal. Maradona is better.

Sports are, after all, a form of entertainment. As long as someone find comparisons entertaining, it will exist

Sean Rash and Belmo would be a great start, or Pete Weber with the PBA.

@@robertnguyen3925 Pete Weber with the PBA would be excellent

I'd love a Rewinder about, "Who do you think you are? I am!"

It is very sad, but also why Pele is 82 and still alive and Maradona passed at 60.

@@hackrjack I think it's pretty clear why in the video

Drugs do that to you…

@@hackrjack this aged badly...

Mid lol

@@drphot6050 About Beef History or Clara? Ha

Clara sucks honestly, I don’t like her voice, the worst of all is that the videos she made have the most interesting topics

@@fcervantes777 but you got to get that diversity in there bro

It also doesn’t help that he was forced to stay in Brazil instead of going to bigger clubs in Europe

@@ezra7723 At the time, there were no such thing as "bigger clubs in Europe", in fact they're not even better. In Pelé's days, the international tournament between SA and Europe was the Intercontinental Cup which was dominated by South American clubs The 1966 beating took at the hands of Portugal mentioned in the video was because Santos ABSOLUTELY DEMOLISHED Benfica 5 x 2 , the Champions of Europe. Benfica who in turn had demolished everyone in Europe and yet they couldn't handle Pelé. Back then, Brazilian clubs used to tour Europe and get huge results, there's even an anecdote of Garrincha scoring 5 times, which prompted his coach to ask him to stop as to not embarass their host, which Garrincha responded by leaving the whole defensive system in shambles, rounding the keeper, getting to the line and turning back.

The issue is that in recent years, Maradona let his football do the talking, while Pele and Santos decided that they need to remind everyone every single second that he was an amazing footballer. Like the time when Ronaldo became the player with the most club goals in history (I believe thats the statistic) and then Santos suddenly came out with an extra 300 or so goals for Pele. The revisionist history about that era in football is astounding. Maradona played in an era where the average of the players was of a much higher quality, where he played in a foreign country almost his entire career (as opposed to the Brazilians in the 60s where they all stayed in Brazil), and he wasn't playing surrounded by some of the greatest players of all time.

@@herrerasauro7429 That is simply not true. Between 1960-1970 (Peles peak years), European teams won the Intercontinental Cup 7 times to South American teams 4 times. In 1962, Benfica didn't 'demolish' everyone in Europe. They only won the semi final of the European Cup 3-2 on aggregate. There ABSOLUTELY were such things as 'bigger clubs in Europe'. Real Madrid for example, by then Puskas and Di Stafano had already played for them. In 1963 when Milan played Santos, Milan ABSOLUTELY DEMOLISHED Santos by 4-2. However Santos won the second leg and then won the tie in extra time. See how your example is pretty dumb? Milan and Manchester United had already been around for over 10 years longer than Santos had. To try to claim that South American club football (especially Brazilian clubs) in the 60s and 70s was some kind of sphere of excellence that no other continent could come close to is the exact reason why so many people are fed up of Pele. If South American teams were so good, then why did Pele score '1000' goals against primarily them?

@@ezra7723 Ezra77, i think we may see Messi better than Maradonna at this point.

The story behind it is even better, the midfielder of the team they were playing (Bilbao) broke his ankle the year prior with an awful tackle lmao. So he got his get back regardless if they lost or not

@@godalbinothe Not only that , he was getting HACKED the whole game. The whole bilbao team were dirty . There was 1 dude nicknamed The Butcher of Bilbao to give context. That game Barcelona , lost , and the brawl was right about as the game was gonna end. It was just the climax of a yearly battle/war!

@@godalbinothe is that the guy who kept the boot he broke Maradonna’s leg with in a glass box like a trophy?

@@Sledgehammer003 Yup! Crazy era lmao. The guy who broke his ankle kept his boots that he did it in 😂 it’s crazy when they say football is not a contact sport

@@harveyholmes9533 Yup! Insane lol

There’s no real beef it’s all speculation

The best player of all time is Messi by so long of a distance vs whoever you choose to put in 2nd place that it's not fair to other people to be compared to him. Using number of World Cups won to determine who is "better" means Antoine Griezmann is better than Messi? Olivier Giroud? André Schürrle? David Villa? Luca Toni? GTFO lol Football isn't tennis. There are 11 guys on the field, not 1.

@@javiazar Nah, I disagree. None of those guys were the best players on their team winning the WC. If a great player can carry other players to win a team trophy, that's astonishing. Incredible. True greatness. However let's not forget that Maradona did use his hand.

Younger fans will usually side with the players they got to see in their lifetime, ie Messi and CR7 today, and Pele and Maradona therefore can’t possibly be as good. They are all great players, but in their prime, it’s Maradona for me.

@@javiazar exactly and this why there is not the GOAT, but rather a lot of players you could call that for various reasons

Just Pele

Puskas was an artist of a footballer

It was quite a solid team. For example, no opponent player had a 1-on-1 against the goalkeeper, controlling the ball [like Burruchage in the 3-2 against West Germany]. But individually, Brazil 1970 had more talent than Argentina 1986.

@@gerardomalazdrewicz7514 Absolutely right but I take the Argentine system. Brazil has always been loosy goose defending and that’s the edge for me

Yep, as an avid futbol fan, this is the first time I've heard that 86 team be called average. Lol.

The very final is proof that this wasn't an "very average" team. Beckenbauer sent Matthäus to cover Maradona, thinking that with Maradona out of the equation, West Germany would coast to an easy win, even at the cost of taking Matthäus out of the equation too. He had to revert actions, freeing Matthäus of his warden role, after Argentina got a commanding 2-goal advantage. And, man! Burruchaga showed a big pair of balls when scoring the winning goal! Running against Schumacher, who nearly killed (no exaggeration) Battiston on a similar play 4 years before, requires a level of courage not found on a "very average" player

@@GenericUserNameHere "loosy goose defending" 1958, 1994 and 2002 champions would like to have a word with you

You misspelled Football bro!

@@BabylonGateLA Soccer is an appropriate term. Don’t take my word for it, the English themselves coined it.

@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 The English never use it tho.

Yes.

I'm actually shocked they haven't done it yet to be honest

I don't know about that. 1950's World Cup final loss at Maracanà wasn't worse as far as result goes, but it was WAY worse for the Brazilan National Team and their country. Literally dozens of people committed suicide on the spot.

Probably yes, but Brazil also had two World Cup games that shocked the whole country and left lasting scars: the 2-1 loss to Uruguay in the 1950 World Cup final (in Brazil) and the 3-2 loss to Italy in 1982, when the Seleção was considered the best one ever.

@@riccardosantella1200 Absolutely amazing that people will take a game so seriously, that they willingly end their life because of it. I'm a huge Brazil fan, and the 7-1 disaster left me stunned to my soul. But, in the end it's just a game, and I'm not crazy. Brazil 2022!!!!

There can only be ONE GOAT that is PELE pure class on & off the court

​@@sharonscott6244 nope Diego

@@johnrockyryan to each their own Pele the original

The Brazilian Govt also didn’t let players leave which isn’t Pelé’s fault. They didn’t let Garrincha go to Juventus either

Yeah that argument is overused but not true, there wasn't a official national league in Brazil until 1971, which means most of the time pele was playing and participating in badly organized regional/ state tournaments for most of his career. The Brazilian Federation didn't get serious until 1971 about forming a serious organized league until 1971, by which time pele was turning 31 in 1971.

Yeah, people keep repeating that Pelé never went to Europe when Benfica, who thrashed european teams, was thrashed by Santos. And Santos had their match back in Brazil in Cruzeiro, Botafogo, Fluminense and others...

Oh yeah, that argument is so stupid. U had Brazil win the World Cup 3 out of 4 times between 1958 and 1970 and none of their players played in Europe. So how can you even claim ur league is better than Brazil’s league

@@herrerasauro7429 Not only Benfica. They thrashed Barcelona, they thrashed Milan. Nearly every main European team of that era saw themselves losing against Santos. The only exception was Real Madrid, but because Santiago Bernabéu himself ordered that the main team had to rest for a week, while Santos came on a frantic, 3-games-a-week schedule. Real won a close game, despite Santos playing tired. Bernabéu would then reject anyone from Santos asking for a rematch, perhaps knowing that his team lucked out that game. If the president of the team that had just won 5 European Leagues trembled by the notion of losing a rematch against a team that would probably arrive tiresome due to a load of matches played in so little time... That pretty much sums up how freaking powerful was Santos.

And the referee is Nelson Mandela.

Pele never proved himself in Europe. Yes he played on a good team at the time in Santos but it was hardly a perfect career where there is no unanswered questions

yeah thats true, there are so much stats and things you can link to players. That's why there is still a goat debate between Messi, Ronaldo, Pele, Cruijff and Maradona. Because you can make a compelling argument for the best players in the game

@@heehee4651 the Brazilian league was better than the majority of European football in the 60s, with the exception of Italy. So much so that Pelé's Santos crushed Eusebio's Benfica and AC Milan in the Intercontinental Cup

Garbage eras shouldn't even matter

@@heehee4651 Not true South American and Brazilian football was better in the 60s.

I don’t blame Pelé because he played at a time when football was very violent and defenders used to brutalise him.

Hey, patriotism always make people have a sense of 'pride' for their home-country players. I'm not joking if one man willing to kill someone for doing an own-goal in WC. Or make racist remarks on a best player from France during the big matches. Even bigger if you include those country.

Yeah, that's one big reason Neymar is considered a big flop in Brazil even having a great carrer. He's contemporary to Messi, who's undeniable and Brazil has nothing to counter besides the laurels makes Brazil feel alienated that the only one who was able to deny him was a portuguese.

Just PELE

This. So much than an Argentine journalist, nicknamed Juvenal, wrote, after 1986 WC: "Maradona is more for Argentina than Pelé is from Brazil", in the sense that made a bigger difference.

I feel that this feeling that Maradona is "for the people" happens because Argentina didnt have any world class footballers from the time between Di stefano to Maradona (20 years), and from Maradona to Messi (15 years). Sure, you got Crespo, Batistuta and Redondo but they dont even come close to Romario, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Cafu, Roberto Carlos or other Brazilian players that came during those 35 years where Argentina lack unique talent.

Correct and pele still stood out that y pele is a best 🤟🤟

@@leandrometfan Mario Kempes?

@@gerardomalazdrewicz7514 one of the biggest myths that keeps being posted. Maradona joined a Argentina team full of all time great players that were defending champs going into 1982. Passarella is their greatest defender ever. Kempes was the previous Golden Boot winner. Fillol was Argentinas greatest ever keeper. None of these guys were on the downsides of their careers and Argentina didn't win it all.

Pelé is the best ever how can you like a pedo like Maradona?

Me

This video popped up a few days before the WC final. I refused to click it unless Argentina wins which they did now.

Didnt even watch the round 16 games. I got really bored at times( i like football but not a huge fan of it i prefer boxing or MMA) i thiught it was a good world cup and argentina is great even though didnt watch the final. Wish brazil wouldve won as someone who has studied in brazil i love brazil more

I watched Messi finally catch Mbappe!

Any Brazilian player is better than Lionel Messi. -Pele 😮

South America is kind of hard to miss on a map, with or without Pele and Maradona

Hey teacher what’s that blank spot on the map for? Oh, don’t worry about it that’s where they don’t have any great footballers

Argentina was shortly the richest country in the world around ~1900... Brazil is one of the biggest countries..😀

RIP Pele

"Clara", like you know her personally or something 😂

@@brianbadonde9251 it’s a movement, Brian.

@@RickyJMarc It's weird and para-social, Ricky.

@@brianbadonde9251 are you okay? Who hurt you?

@@RickyJMarc lmaoo

They already did that, the Kun Aguero one. Maybe it need to restart from the Zidane's best goal on Champions League final. Or Colombian Soccer Tragedy in 1994.

That would be great! How about either 1999 or 2005 champions league final??

MaraDonna was better lol

@@leonconnelly5303 in smoke cocaine

I think most Brazilians have no idea the effect Pele had on people far away from Brazil. In his prime every kid in Africa wanted just to be Pele. For the populace in large Pele was on mythological par with the likes of the Greek gods like Zeus. His name was synonymous with lightening, tornedo or hurricane. He was the mega force, the atomic bomb of soccer. To Africans when someone mentions Pele there is only one thing that comes to mind BRAZIL and when someone mentions Brazil, there is only one name that comes to mind PELE! Brazil=Pele and Pele=Brazil. Period! He is the first and last Brazilian to put Brazil right on the world map. Because of Pele Africans till now LOVE and root for the Brazilian team. He engraved the Brazilian yellow jersey and the legendary number 10 on every non Brazilian man, woman and child. On every African country sport radio broadcasts, there was only megastar that controlled the air waves, Pele!. Legend has it that people used to kiss the ground he walked on. I can go on and on about his legends. The words "GOAT" or "King of soccer" don't do any justice to him. He was bigger than the game itself. He overshadows the entire game. Without him, soccer has no meaning at all. He is the father and soccer is just his little kid.

I think most Brazilians have no idea the effect Pele had on people far away from Brazil. In his prime every kid in Africa wanted just to be Pele. For the populace in large Pele was on mythological par with the likes of the Greek gods like Zeus. His name was synonymous with lightening, tornedo or hurricane. He was the mega force, the atomic bomb of soccer. To Africans when someone mentions Pele there is only one thing that comes to mind BRAZIL and when someone mentions Brazil, there is only one name that comes to mind PELE! Brazil=Pele and Pele=Brazil. Period! He is the first and last Brazilian to put Brazil right on the world map. Because of Pele Africans till now LOVE and root for the Brazilian team. He engraved the Brazilian yellow jersey and the legendary number 10 on every non Brazilian man, woman and child. On every African country sport radio broadcasts, there was only megastar that controlled the air waves, Pele!. Legend has it that people used to kiss the ground he walked on. I can go on and on about his legends. The words "GOAT" or "King of soccer" don't do any justice to him. He was bigger than the game itself. He overshadows the entire game. Without him, soccer has no meaning at all. He is the father and soccer is just his little kid.

Best you enjoy it while they’re on this roll.. Remember, SB are yanks, and as such, it’s really rare to see one soccer/football vid from them, let alone two or more on the trot!

Just PELE

I think most Brazilians have no idea the effect Pele had on people far away from Brazil. In his prime every kid in Africa wanted just to be Pele. For the populace in large Pele was on mythological par with the likes of the Greek gods like Zeus. His name was synonymous with lightening, tornedo or hurricane. He was the mega force, the atomic bomb of soccer. To Africans when someone mentions Pele there is only one thing that comes to mind BRAZIL and when someone mentions Brazil, there is only one name that comes to mind PELE! Brazil=Pele and Pele=Brazil. Period! He is the first and last Brazilian to put Brazil right on the world map. Because of Pele Africans till now LOVE and root for the Brazilian team. He engraved the Brazilian yellow jersey and the legendary number 10 on every non Brazilian man, woman and child. On every African country sport radio broadcasts, there was only megastar that controlled the air waves, Pele!. Legend has it that people used to kiss the ground he walked on. I can go on and on about his legends. The words "GOAT" or "King of soccer" don't do any justice to him. He was bigger than the game itself. He overshadows the entire game. Without him, soccer has no meaning at all. He is the father and soccer is just his little kid.

maradona is clear

Like score a goat with his hand 🤣 pele clears 3 world cups 7 ballon de or. Destroyed all European clubs didn’t have to take peds and finally wasn’t a pedo. Goat pele🐐

Pele revolutionised football and made it global even when there was no tv coverage. During Pele era video coverage was still evolving that why it looks dull and during Diego era video coverage was now on colour. Just like saying sci-fi movies of 2022 has more interest to the audience to sci-fi of 1990. Pele made the #10 jersey the iconic number wore by the best player in the team. About playing in a lesser league during Pele's era south America countries were dominating football If the best of south American players like Messi, Neymar, Anderson, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Aguero, Maradona were all playing in their countries league will u call it a lesser league, during Pele era the best south American players played south American league. Pele revolutionised football globally while Maradona modernized it globally

I think most Brazilians have no idea the effect Pele had on people far away from Brazil. In his prime every kid in Africa wanted just to be Pele. For the populace in large Pele was on mythological par with the likes of the Greek gods like Zeus. His name was synonymous with lightening, tornedo or hurricane. He was the mega force, the atomic bomb of soccer. To Africans when someone mentions Pele there is only one thing that comes to mind BRAZIL and when someone mentions Brazil, there is only one name that comes to mind PELE! Brazil=Pele and Pele=Brazil. Period! He is the first and last Brazilian to put Brazil right on the world map. Because of Pele Africans till now LOVE and root for the Brazilian team. He engraved the Brazilian yellow jersey and the legendary number 10 on every non Brazilian man, woman and child. On every African country sport radio broadcasts, there was only megastar that controlled the air waves, Pele!. Legend has it that people used to kiss the ground he walked on. I can go on and on about his legends. The words "GOAT" or "King of soccer" don't do any justice to him. He was bigger than the game itself. He overshadows the entire game. Without him, soccer has no meaning at all. He is the father and soccer is just his little kid.

@@popemorah7449 pele was more influential maradona was a better footballer end of debate