Hey, may I suggest maybe a slightly more engaging/fast pace. Try to speed it up a little bit for something like this, doesn't mean the vid has to be shorter, just maybe a little faster. I found myself fast forwarding a bit just because of how much time it took to go from map to map.

u also say the word echo like 19 times, try to mix up the words a bit, other than that congrats on the growth!!

@@meerlux1174 SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree

And also make it clear that it's about playing on the map, not watching. It's so weird seeing people talk about how good a map is because it's "fun to watch" or dissing one because it's "boring to watch". But maybe that's just me.

@@AlphaGarg When people criticize a map because of how fun/boring it is to watch, they are actually refering to the pro scene, and how they feel while watching the best players in the world face each other in this arenas. A big part of CS is the pro scene, and it´s very important to take into consideration how the audiences feel when spectating these maps. Obviously, the most important characteristic of a map is how much fun you have while PLAYING it, but spectating it´s still a factor.

i dont know nuke or overpass even though i recognize overpass as a fairly balanced and well playted map. another limitation of ranked choice surveys

@@lucasdesantis2068 Yeah, I know, but listening to the pro scene is what got us games like Halo 5 Guardians and all the needlessly extreme nerfs to guns like the M4A1-S or the CZ, the latter of which is basically useless thanks to the microscopic ammo reserve. The only reason Valve (or any company, really) listens to that crowd of players is because of the money it makes them and the attention it brings, it literally never makes a game more fun to play lol.

I enjoy very much nuke , cache and train !!

Movement players: *nodding*

Love Nuke. I even loved it back in CSS.

Nuke or Inferno for me, Nuke because as you said: experimenting. Inferno because it’s such an easy map to improvise plays on.

nuke is for try hards and run boost trick shooters

Strongly agree. After all the changes it has gone though it really has become the most fun to play and watch.

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I can only think of about 4 strategies for the T's tbh. 1. go secret 2. rush through hut/squeaky onto A site 3. nade squeaky and rush through vents 4. rush ramp

@@shamrooooock lol?

@@Photek24 wym lol

Hey man im a new csgo player and i would like to thank u for explaining abt inferno.

this may be the greatest analysis of inferno ive ever read

I honestly think Dust 2 is worse than Inferno, if we are talking B sites. Inferno A site is not too bad, easy angles to check besides maybe graveyard.

@@maybecole On A site you have graveyard, pit and apps; also rotating around the bombsite is a lot faster than Dust2's B site where you have to go through tunnels to middle :') I agree with you, though, on the idea that Dust2's B-site is also very hard to retake.

The last point is actually pretty great and makes a lotta sense. Didn't think about that perspective before, even though inferno is my 1st or 2nd most played map in cs through 8 years

That's the reason why we dont play it in Leagues. This Inferno hard grinders are so lost on other maps.

I hate playing all of the 3 maps you named in faceit. Everyone knows how to play those maps and i know too. They are a chore to play and stale in my opinion. If there is a chance, i will always pick ancient, vertigo or train on faceit.

@@nski_ Train feels like the ultimate tryhard map in my opinion. 19/20 people only know basic utility and strats on that map. But the few times I can recall getting 16-0'd in five stack, it's been on train against ULTRA tryhards on train

@@bimpa1568 SO true.. I like to think that I’m a somewhat decent faceit10 train player, but I have been served some seriously embarrassing claps by 5 stacks in the past. Left me speechless

@@bimpa1568 acting like trying to win in a competitive game is bad..

Agree

It‘s almost like proper survey-design is its own science 😅 It‘s surprisingly difficult!

It’s the classic most famous one but it’s overplayed

csgo's dust2 have so many flaws they should take some aspects of 1.6's dust2 the double doors (long) should be removed, add some boxes on pit, remove headshot box (b site) and remake the visual again because this one wasn't it, doesn't feel "dusty".

Dust2 was just the first standout "great" map, kind of like MW2's Rust or Black Ops' Nuketown. New players immediately recognized it, old players enjoyed it. But there's a point where boredom hits in playing the same map over and over and over again.

It's far from good, only draw to it are fast rounds it rewards peak agression/rushing and aim skills instead of tactics and positioning, variety on it is non existant as there are like 4 ways all rounds go. Middle sniping is dumb tho it offers only bit of tactic in firm of spottibg how many CTs went B. Biggest problem is that it forces you to be suicidal and accurate. Inferno is much better as classic maps go, with way more routes and more ways to trick people.

@@Kacpa2 You can dislike it, but saying it’s “far from good” is completely and entirely dishonest. It’s layout effectively the template for what makes a cs map, it offers a balanced experience at all levels of matchmaking, and it’s enjoyable to watch in the pro scene, it has stood the test of time for a reason, it’s only fallen out of favour because people have played it too much - that doesn’t happen with bad maps.

How dare you slander office like that, office best office

Agency is the best office map :)

shit, i think they couldve kept the entirety of operation vanguard lmfao that op was stacked with great maps!

Cobble :(

I'd like to see at least twice a year.

especially with CS2 on the horizon now. i have a feeling that’s definitely gonna switch this list up a bit

Insertion II was insanely good and fun. Won and lost many close games on both teams. It is a shame it didnt manage to become a permanent hostage map. At least for me it is far better than Agency or Milita, although I like them all.

I'm pretty sure Astralis and NaVi just absolutely dunking on every one team is what shifted the balances

as a beginner to nuke I agree

⁠@@shamrooooock being a nuke-noob is tough because CTs can just camp sites, while Ts are funneled through kill zones and weird angles and must know some utility and strats. But weirdly noobs still love nuke; I surely did back then. The map just has this luring; maybe it’s the irradiated brain, who knows..

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@@baremangus3576 ESCalation's too, although his focus is more on the casual side.

Honestly, I think we‘re in the minority with this one. I - generally - like the old darker, grimier graphics of early csgo before they revamped the graphics. Old cache, inferno, nuke - they never reworked assault, so that’s the graphics I mean. Dunno, always felt like I was playing HL2 with those graphics; it still had this connection to “ye olden days” of community servers and just noodling around and having fun. Modern CS now with (2) is competitive , all about ranks, tryhard - not that I hate that, but it’s just *only* that. It’s squeaky-clean and overly fancy (I constantly get stuck or distracted by “beauty over function” stuff; weird corners, weird foliage halfway blocking stuff where you know this isn’t intended, way too much going on graphically, performance is much more demanding, no “everyone join in, even with a potato” anymore etc.) Where the community “indie” stuff at? 😕

In 2022 "fun" is no longer a concern to most people, only "competitiveness" and "watchability". Because ESports.

​@@AlphaGarg Sadly true, I do hope one day hostage mode gets a redesign in terms of gameplay.

If you also play those maps, you are not basic at all. Even though those maps were rated higher than Mirage, Mirage is still the most popular map in the game. Nuke is also among the least popular maps in the community, with even Vertigo beating it by a significant margin.

not only that but think about all the possible boosts on agency, it almost feels like playing insertion at times with how you can surprise the enemy team

I respectfully disagree. I believe office is more balanced than agency. Allow me to explain. Lets start with agency. Whereas it is true that Agency has 3 ways for CTs to advance, all of them are hard to control. Ts can reach the middle area sooner regardless of how close a CT spawns and they can throw molotov and HEs through the glasses, while the opoosite is impossible. The two outer ways (idk how they are called tbf) are difficult in the sense that Ts can peek from both a lower and an upper level, whereas CTs cant (unless someone manages to go up the stairs on the right side). Also, in the bathroom corridors Ts can use grenades early on to block any advances, although it requires a good spawn. You most likely would have to waste a smoke or flash right away just to reach the bathroom itself or the stairs on the other side. On the other hand, Office offers better chances for the CTs. Just think about it. Yes, indeed the corridors are smaller, but precisely because of that a good CT will have an easier time. Lets suppose no T rushes early on the round (which is pretty dumb cosidering that CTs can peek gate and middle earlier if they have the best spawns). Normally, Ts will have control of the spawn and the main corridor on the middle, whereas CTs will take control of the offices, gate and adjacent areas. Such a situation, which is very common, reduces the positioning of the T team to a few locations. For example, you want to take control of the main corridor? Check the bathroom area first (although normally no one goes there since its easily countered), molotov the vending machine spot, which can be done without actually peeking into the corridor, and thats it. Next, lets say you wish to advance towards the back corridor to take the hostage there or encircle the T spawn. Normally there will be a T close to the entrance, behind the couch or futher back on the plant. You can use a HE and/or flash or if you still have your molly you can throw it on the back and clear the corridor. You can wallbang the couch spot too or simply prefire. The same for the other side. You can wallbang the archive spot and then either smoke kitchen and go towards middle or smoke middle and advance towards kitchen, it will depend on what your team is doing and where the hostage is, of course. Also on office once you take the hostage you can save it in far less time. For example, if the hostage is on the best spawn on kitchen, it takes about 11s to reach the hostage zone. Utiliy usage is also easier on Office since the Ts will have control of smaller areas, so you can often get some HE kills and such. But do not take me wrong, I do like agency. My arguments are solely related to balance, which is an objetive analysis based on map layout. It has nothing to do with fun, I do find agency fun and play the map pretty much every week.

I think Office is less T sided than most people think. If you get lucky enough to not get cheaters in a comp game on Office, it can play fair. T's can get punished for playing too aggressive and too passive. All it takes is to get one pick in Paper and Mid Control and CT's can win. Another thing I don't see on Office is CT's smoking well. Lots of CT's just throw them down a hall without consideration where they will land. If you are able to place smokes on top of common camping spots you can effectively destroy an entire T side passive play. It really isn't that hard.

@@youtuberobbedmeofmyname Couldnt agree more. Often when one loses a CT is has more to do with his/her lack of map knowledge than the other team's own merits.

@@epiccamper office hallways are longer so its harder to clear, also in agency theres 3 hallways and u talk about how utility could make it more T sided or less T sided, but u have to considered hostage is not played on pro play, is just in ranked, u cant expect plp to actually play utility the way it is.

I feel the exact same way about vertigo

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Inferno is the most skill heavy map in the game idk why it should be for everyone You could make that call about something like mirage because it‘s a good middle ground but not inferno

Did this bot just call inferno a simple and friendly map? Its the most utility heavy, saving simulator. Not fun playing vs a premade of inferno nerds that know every nade like its a major

There is to much detail id say to make it viable for competitive in pro games, but i agree it could totally become a player favorite.

mid needs tweaks but yea it could be a big map for casual players as well as competitive

Nah, way too many angles to check and the map is overall kind of boring, just feels like a chore to play.

@@despair268 For B site I would have to agree but mollies can make retaking/pushing either of the sites way easier but I respect your take nonetheless we all enjoy different maps

i love office and agree it is underrated. Mostly when i see people play it is Mirage, Vertigo, Dust2, Anubis, Ancient and Inferno. Players that know a lot of lineups for nades have big advantage on those maps but when playing those maps without communication in team it is hard when not knowing where enemies are, if team is quiet you have no idea where they are without peeking and seeing them yourself because those maps are so big. I don't know a lot of lineups for smokes, molotovs, flashes etc but it is harder to play these maps when some players know them and have a strategy to use but not everyone in the team knows lineups and are quit. At Office it is easier to play without communication in team because you know where enemy are they are either outside paper or going long. For example at Nuke good players can throw smokes at yard and sometimes go secret and sometimes not or throw molotov and flashes into A and sometimes go there or instead go ramp to b but i guess that tactic demands higher skilled players to i am not playing Nuke for that reason. It is hard enough to aim in the game without having to learn a lot of smokes and nades and have a strategy with players you play with for the first time :)

Mid is really hard to hold as CT because Ts can peek from 2 opposing angles with the exact same timings, and if they decide to smoke you and drop, you can't really do anything about it. You can blind spray, but that leaves you very vulnerable to tracer tracking or just guess shots, because you only have a very small area to stand where your body is protected. I also don't like the difference in elevation between the water and the sides below mid. They did well to make the water quiet, but I really hate having to either jump to clear bridges/gaps, or be forced to walk a certain path to not take falling inaccuracy.

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Finally another alpha overpass enjoyer, it's my fav too :D

Mathematician here, Boxplot does not work with this survey as there are only 5 possible values for each map.