Crap. They've been saying that for the past 50 years, through big wins and losses.

I like haskall but I completely agree with you

It used to be. But since the day it became professional those days are gone. Money talks and the demise of Worcester and Wasps proves that. If a coach doesn’t produce the goods, then someone new should be given the job.

English rugby you mean.

Sorry can't agree with that. The old school are merely trying to cleave to the old amateur spirit of the game.The problem is the professional era. The stakes are infinitely higher than in the 'old school' days and manipulating results is a much more profitable enterprise than ever before.

I hear you but he has never had the upper hand in cup rugby against the boks. Just didn't. It aint the coach thats the problem, it's england are simply not world beaters. They are good, and a good day, who knows. Cup rugby requires you to be solid and consistent. I'm hopeful for the boks this cup, because it feels like there is a consistency building there...and showing. England needs to get a damn english coach. Need this to grow the culture etc. etc. Nothing wrong with eddie, good caoch forsure, but that final margins you need, he cannot provide as an ozzy.

Saffer here..England needs a 100% overhaul of their front rowers. Once that's sorted the backs will function again. Their weak forwards makes things difficult for the backs, they are stuck between a defensive and offensive mindset = confusion and sloppy play. Are the Wngland forwards carrying a bit too much muscle for their frames ? Being big is important but there's a fine line between carrying tio much bulk and carrying moderately lean mass like the Boks. In a 50 minute game Eng firwards might be ok, but not 80. The Bulls were like that a few years ago. Scariest, biggest guys but always faded in the second half. If Eng can't find fresh front rowers, maybe get them to drop a few and up cardio- opinion. Good luck England 👍🏻.Ps: Only Frans Malherbe can eat all he likes and still dominate.

You are without doubt the best team in the world right now. So we lost to the best team in the world big deal, I don't know why that is worthy of sacking him.

England just bring who they are, arrogant pricks. I don't want any Southern Hemisphere coach to coach them ever again

@@spiritdancer1699 doesn‘t seem that way tho, does it?

100% correct. Haskell is so bias.

@@2011hwalker Biased.

Rassie is exactly the same…

@@nickrad6966 totally

Nope England had an great chance in this world cup and Eddie knew that. He already had the team, he was just biding time. He didn't need to rebuild. So what, so England was't that hungry for W in between the world cup. But experience teams can lift their game when it counts and England only needs to do that for 3 games, of which they will most likely face Argentina, Wales and Australia with a tired opponent in the final. Ireland peaked too early again and France will need to beat SA, NZ or IRE consectuvely just to end up in the final. Borthwick is an Englishman that looks like he'll get the England squad to believe, add some dogged fighting spirit in the team so that they can grind out wins. So I can understand the RFU thinking, but it is a gamble to drop a tactical genius that historically excells in one off games. Essentially England need one great game like their 2019 semi-final but this one will be in the final. And they dropped the best guy for that. And will probably lose to Australia in the semi-final.

He was experimenting ...

@@maldarkangel What by picking golden oldies? He didnt experiment enough. He needed to build a new team but got stuck picking the same old players past their best. Youngs, May, Vunipolas etc

Results have not been good enough unfortunately

@@paulchristopher8634 Results have been more like ...shocking.

Rugby league is a better all round sport , union is just private school posh brats I refuse to watch it anyway

Too right mate. It's been a disaster.

But also Haskell played superb Rigbu for Eddie Jones, which illustrates why he rates him.

@@danielebowman Yes, he certainly has personal reasons for supporting Jones

@@rook_wood yeah and he is Englands most successful coach ever , been to two WC finals , won a WC as an assistant with SA , won a Super Rugby Tournament, beat SA with Japan … but England have a better coach at the moment 9 months before a WC lol

@@09hunterboy8Yes, he definitely achieved impressive things up to the 2019 WC

@@09hunterboy8 Last time I checked it was Clive Woodward that won England’s sole rugby World Cup back in 2003. Nobody really cares about 2nd place. Michael Cheika took his nation to the final in 2015 but still came up short.

Good comment 👌

Agreed.

Its the timing, less than a year before a WC

@@JohnyTuff1 I agree with you, I'd rather have waited to say part and say goodbye.

This

Rugby league is the better sport time to switch codes ppl

England aren't that good

I'm gutted he's gone considering how on paper easy englands pool stages are :/

As an English rugby fan I am delighted. Jones thinks Owen Farrell is a centre! Haha

@@nikpawlowski3610 he went at undefeated at centre for the lions in 2017. He clearly played well there

He played fly half in the first test, but was also surrounded by a good some world class players, unlike England at the moment.! Jones has almost ruined Farrell international career, by playing him out of position. No other international side would he make centre I doubt.

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Don’t you worry Sout Piel, England won’t be going anywhere You need to worry about your SA ageing dinosaurs and a hopeless coach

How's it going skippy?

@@gwh3013 Entertaining mate. Entertaining.

​@@BelloBudo007And last night was - entertaining? Good luck having him. Whatever coach any country has, I love watching great games (of rugby!). It's just that some coaches make it a challenge for their players, and as many have said throughout the comments and replies to this video, I'm sure that there are plenty of players who balance that. Looking forward to this year's WC, bring it on. Go well.

​@@BelloBudo007 as an England rugby fan, please allow me to say hahahahaha

@@garyambrosini1427 Permission granted.

totally true. Why has Haskell has avoided the truth england have looked poor in successive 6Ns.

The coaching staff yes but not the main coach , there's a big difference. Jones has brought England nothing since world cup . No evolution . What I've seen is when he takes over he makes a huge positive influence for a couple of years , after that he seems to struggle. Maybe he's best at part of the coaching staff like with South Africa, who knows . His player picks are the other issue. Farrell is not a world class centre , not fast nor powerful in that position put with a past his prime tuilagi who may pull out a performance every now and again , it's not good enough . Billy v another past his best still being picked when we have some serious quality no.8s not being given.much of a chance. Mako can't scrummage against the very best , marler is the one to pick v south Africa etc etc etc. Since that world cup loss he changed, wanting to play more like South Africa, we haven't the players to play that way . The boks are from a gene pool all of there own lol that's why they're so good at what they do.

Great comment, couldn’t agree with you more.👏🏻👏🏻

Jones had more talent at his disposal, although a lot of said talent played one test or so. The riches union behind him. Please no excuses. He sacked, or bullied some of the best coaches, in rugby. So many that he’s run out of world class coaches. No sympathy.

NZ should have him 😂

@@nikpawlowski3610 You should limit your generosity.

Well he definitely didn't listen to the fans and he's in the stands.

Nah that was Wayne Bennett

exactly, Eddie was arguably the best thing to happen to Ireland

What? The players gotta show up not the coach

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yeah yeah, sure he did..

Top comment pal.👏🏻👏🏻

That‘s a completely different scenario. Erasmus was never under that kind of pressure at home. But don‘t worry, he will be if SA can‘t make the last 4 at the WC

Since England won in 2003, SA and NZ have each won two WC Finals (the second SA Final was against England). So, looking at the actual facts, England have performed pretty well at the WC compared to ALL teams bar NZ and SA. I don’t dispute that EJ had his day as an England coach, but the trajectory was definitely headed downwards.

Nope

Why, because England got completely dismantled by SA at home. Why would that result be any different in a WC?

*them

@@karlosdeevsno he got it right, dimbo.

@@coniferclose who cares, i was playin‘

Easy to be great when the owner cheats 🤷‍♂️

@@MichaeldeSousaCruz as i understand things, most clubs bend the rules so careful what you say, look at Wasps and Worcester for how bad things can turn out without an owner who actually cares about the club

@@AJP-kf7wq you think cheating is caring? Huh?

@@MichaeldeSousaCruz what i said is that most clubs are bending the rules, some owners because they care about the club and its staff and some, dont and want as much out as possible

@@AJP-kf7wq you’re still advocating cheating as caring. Strange

Spot on.

Yeah, he could‘ve been sacked after Ireland trounced England to win the grand slam in 2018. They‘d just lost 4 on the bounce and would go on to lose 2 more straight after.. And again after the 2021 & 2022 6N where they only barely scraped 3 wins from 5. It had been pitiful for a good while..

@@karlosdeevs very true, 2018 was abysmal. Two awful results against Scotland at home in the last few years as well, including the first defeat to them at Twickenham for 40 odd years