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Low power and high agility yea but then you got things like the gr 86 or brz for about $400 difference at msrp and and about equal the price at 30k each used same year and all the one thing I see the only thing I see the Miata has over a used boxter cayman or a newly used 86 or brz would be it’s convertible. now don’t get me wrong I’m not saying I don’t like the Miata I’m just saying it’s illogical to me when you have better options specially when you’re thinking of buying a new Mx-5 when you have older more iconic 98 and older Mx-5 for 15k or less especially if you’re thinking of the modding scene. I’ve even found independent sellers that’s sell their Miata’s for 2-5k so a newer Mx-5 doesn’t make sense to me

@@mondragonmsaul308 People that buy a new Miata are people that want a cheap, reliable two-seater convertible little sporty rocket. And I bet you that the people that sell the old one, are in most cases getting a new one.

@@mondragonmsaul308 @mondragonmsaul308 As someone who has an NA and NB Miata, I get your point. However, the trouble with the GR86/FRS is the boxer engine. The miata has never needed improved oil baffling due to oil starvation while cornering. Unless you're pushing over 400hp, it's not needed. The GR86, however, will have a void warranty if the engine dies due to oil starvation, caused by a track day. This is despite the marketing about it being a track-ready vehicle. For this reason, the miata is more desirable than a GR86. I don't know if I would even autocross in a stock FRS/BRZ/GR86. True, this can be fixed with aftermarket parts. However, add the multi-piece head assembly, the weak head gaskets, the requirement to remove the cams to pull both heads, the hassle of a quad-cam on a 4cyl engine, AND the requirement to disconnect the pistons from the rods just to pull the engine apart. The comparison is a model of simplicity to an over complicated mess. I pulled the head on my NB with the turbo manifold and intake still attached. The camshafts were left in place as well. All the extra complexity on the boxer engine just to create a better center of gravity. The two are not even close in terms of upkeep. I see NA and NB miatas everywhere I turn. It is insanely rare to see a 90s or early 2000s WRX on the road today. That MSRP difference is just a bribe. Cheers.

Real talk!

Roasters don't have side windows, lol. It's just a sporty convertible

Mazda saw british roadsters and said "what if they were more fun and reliable".

FAX

​@@SvenDansk7 what you're referring to is a Spider, which is basically a stripped down roadster or Barchetta in Italian.

And literally what literally makes it the miata

Thats literally the miata

Fair but I’m over 6 foot and I literally can’t fit in a Miata I would love to own one but I can’t 😢

It's rigid because it's small. That's the secret sauce. Loads of fun to drive as a secondary car or when you're a bachelor.

I think Miata needs both base variant and high performance variant with same size but more power

Sweet Johnson 🤨

Sun Tzu never said that 😭

@@Hammyfreak"Yes I did" - Sun Tzu

@@vanthursday guess it’s before translation?

@@Hammyfreak "sun tzu said that" - solider tf2

got enough of the damn cafe laws sayin that small trucks need to be high on fuel economy, and yes, thats why trucks have gotten bigger

@@djaydevedthats why every car has gotten bigger, because they are all classified as light trucks

I just want more headroom. I physically cannot fit.

But think about it SUV Miata

​@@user-vk2cd9qw7i just bolt the seats to the floor

If that ever happens, I hope someone else picks up the torch and makes a similar car. Honda is what comes to mind first- they made the S2000, and they just recently stopped making the S660 Kei car. All they'd have to do is make a lovechild of those 2. S1200 perhaps, some 1.2L Turbo I3, ~180 HP, fun power curves, a little bit of turbo lag for entertainment, 2200 lbs total weight or so, manual as standard, and amazing driving dynamics that turn every corner into a little experience.

@@dodoz44 How about cars like the 86 and the BRZ? They kind of hit that spot right now. They aren't convertibles, but I hate ragtops anyway.

@@brandons9138 One massive problem: Subaru engine

@@dodoz44 the s2k was never a competitor to the miata. It is heavy and quick. It was closer to a Z4 roadster in terms of performance and an MR2 in terms of handling.

@@brandons9138 86 is 400lbs heavier and has the wrong suspension configuration and a long wheelbase. They're not comparable in the least if people would look beyond horsepower.

Yes

No.

Like Fliphones coming back, so do pop-ups need to.

Well it's the only decent sports car they make now really they need to bring out a new rotary engine that's what we want haha though here in australia alot of the people have engined swapped them for more desirable engines haha I know a bloke that's got an LS1 swapped MX-5 he had to modify the seats for his giant balls hahaha

​​@@gregynutbutter there's a company now selling LS3 swapped custom Miadas for $75,000 they call it a Mazda SS

@@0326Vet $75,000 is fucking ridiculous are they made of gold?

@@gregynutbutter a lot of custom work goes into one apparently, a lot of machine time

Safety requirements are ghey

That kinda sounds like what these fictional “people” want……

sounds like the average american to every car.. Just look at the Eclipse, its a SUV now too lmao

​@@MatthiasAImustang yoo

lol

@JK-js2td that..... thing, is such a disappointment.

Rookie number. It was 55K++ in Indonesia, some even reached 60

That same cycle happened in the 70s to 80s also. 🤦

Wouldn't exactly call it lightweight, you want to go lightweight with no tech and serious track pedigree you buy a Lotus Elise.

@@bzilla1090 I think the Lotus lacks the affordability aspect 👍

@@PokeyCottons you can pick up a second hand one for round about the same price as the new MX-5, S1 might be cheaper.

@@bzilla1090 I can pick a second hand miata for half the price of the second hand elise. They don't even compete with each other.

Some people don't even fit into the damn thing...

I'm 1.90/6.3 and I legit couldn't fit into a new one I stepped in, but fuck me I guess.

@elemenopi55 dang, I thinking the same thing. Lol.

@ryverjustryver9201 I'm around 6.2 and fit in my first gen. Put in an NRG steering wheel with quick release for added leg room.

​@@dieseladdictryan9511 Just make sure you've got the top down and you never mess you're back up ... Just like an MG Midget. ..and don't get too wide in the ass 😂 🇬🇧🧙🏼‍♂️

Like the old Porsche 911s, nothing extreme apart from the extremely raw feel of the drive

this is why ur a therapist w use of a quote and giving the creator some hype

Link the interview

It’s a donut media video on there second channel real mechanic stuff

lol i was watching it now

😅

Small bastard😂 they're nimble as hell

Huh...? Always treated it as a joke/meme/novelty car? Why? Where have you been all this time? For more than _3 decades,_ Blind Freddie has seen the Miata is a well sorted and smile inducing sports car.

They do have that tendency 😊

@@assininecomment1630 to new people looking in the way people talk about miata makes it seem like a joke even though it is a legendary car. its like trying to understand an in-joke from someone else's friend group

Yup. Cool formula. Hell if I’m the last one standing I might wind up with one

Yea, if you are short. I won’t fit in one with the top on, so it has no value at all to me until it is changed to fit. I fully believe that it should be scrapped and they need to produce an adult sized version.

@@adamr9215 how tall are you? im 6'1" and i wear big ass steel toe boots and daily a miata

@@perkypears 6’4”, size 15 boots. I’ve also powerlifted most of my life, so I’m 270lbs at about 16% bodyfat.

@@adamr9215 yeah that's pretty damn tall lol. you might be able to squeeze in with some low side mounted seats at least

Yes you do, the 2.0 is a nightmare to work on

And you can fix it yourself...when you're trus enthusiast lol

you are not winning any races in a miata, and if the engine is swapped that changes the whole simplicity factor

@@cecillioAnd yet, it’s the most raced platform out there.

@@cecillionot everybody is trying to race? I drift I couldn’t care less about racing. Takes literally no skill.

It's all about the sph. Smiles per Hour.

*Miata life!!*

Do you have experience with actual fast cars? (Just curious)

​@@tufan.t.t3816"Yeah, all my cars can go the maximum speed limit."

@@user-bw4jm1bv1i lol

It sounds so much like him it's unbelievable😮😮😮

lmao he really does

he does! nice catch

Dude you are so true. The only thing he's missing is the accent

First thing I also thought as well, same cadence and mannerisms as Linus too 😂

Impossible since they're illegal

Why let the government decide what’s possible? Those clowns lost touch with reality when their sold their souls to lobbyists

Well done...thank you for rescuing a classic...enjoy the twins!

@@TylerDurden-oy2hm thanks for the reply . I also have a 1974 MG midget that is fun to drive but not nearly as fun as the Miata . Hope all is well with your family and friends ☮️❤️

Learn to drive manual, at 66 it will give you a new lease on life lol. I'm 6'4 an am completely fine driving a manual Miata, whereas when I drove an auto it didn't feel sporty at all. with the sluggish transmission and the amount of power that's lost through it.

@@grannysgushinggash thanks for the reply . I guess I’m just getting lazy in my old age !😂. When I want the shifting experience I swap with my son in law. He has a 2006 grey miata 5 speed . This car I have was a girly car back in the day . Hope this finds you and yours well ☮️❤️

how tall are you?

i drive m240i and can say i was impressed driving one of the newer miatas. makes driving feel sporty even when not going that fast

The only thing that can out-miata a Miata is a caterham seven, and that's just not a very livable car

@@tiagobelo4965 suzuki cappuccino is up there aswell

Miatas are for people who actually like driving.

What happened to the CRX? We need that car back from Honda as long as they keep it clean and simple.

@@First362 I couldn't agree more!

@@First362 They brought the CRX back as the CRZ from 2011 to 2016, but the crx had several trims before. It had the base, si, and hf(high fuel economy). They basically brought the CRX back only as the hf this last time as a hybrid. They could have made a si trim with a k20, but they opted not to do so. I imagine it wouldn't be worth the sales and would take away from SI civic sales. It had abysmal sales in the US. PS. I own a 91' dx CRX. It's fun as hell to drive even with the 1.5l d15b2. Nothing beats a cheap stick honda for slow and fun.

Ya know what brotha , this is tbh prolly the best explanation I have heard for it .. mad respect there brotha ... peace and love bro keep it rad stay safe and build on l8z famz

I would much rather have a mustang 4 cyl but fords quality is in the toilet.....

@@unclefester4626 you do you man, but I hope Mazda doesnt change the miata's DNA due to pressure from these critics

It's only clickbait critics. Almost all generations sold tremendously well

Do it! Do it! Do it!

Do it! Do it! Do it!

I owned/drove nothing but RWD V8s until my late 20's, then I bought a 300SL, and a 124 spider when the SL's engine decided it didn't like having oil pressure. I really don't like driving my old V8 cars anymore as they're big and lumbery. The G body wagon is pretty fun to slide around, but I'd rather be feeling the G-Force, not the G-Walk, yaknowhatimeeen?

​@@josephrumpsa180🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's the "G-Walk" for me

The Miata is the graduation cap of the gearhead. Some people throw them, some keep them, but no one graduated without having one. Graduate.

If they could allow the seat to move about 4 inches back and lower down it could expand the customer base maybe even twofold. If we're talking weight and size constraints, why is there room for a passenger?

The people who complained probably haven't even ever driven one. Most of them would "Get it" if they did.... If they don't they have NO business even getting in one. They're like Go Karts for the Road!!!!

"Purrrrr"fect combo!!!

​@@jC-kc4siI got to drive a 1st gen, and, with my knee pinned and my foot only able to stay in line with the clutch, I agree.

@@rya3190I’m 5’11” and I fit in my 91 like a glove. Any taller and I do think it could be a little tight. I don’t even ride with the seat all the way back to be fair so there might be a little more room in there.

Make a coupe, 350hp, rwd. Hybrid? Maybe, but I prefer full ICE because the engine goes vroom and maybe with the manual option with 5 or 6 speed, doesn't need to be flashy. And then make a one off wagon of it.

They can go rotary if they bring Rob Dahm in the design room. I know....I know.... but what if they did?

​@@literallyhuman5990One off wagon would be 🔥🔥🔥 I miss the Protege wagon.

Hell yeah

Back in the early 2010's or late 2000's Mazda could have replaced the RX-8 with a similar powered, piston engine car. NC Miata and SE3P share chassis and MZR 2.0 used in NC Miata is very close to MZR 2.3 Turbo from Mazdaspeed3. Even after the divorce from FOMOCO and introduction of Skyactiv-G engines the 2.0 liter from ND Miata (maybe with a turbo) or 2.5 liter variant would be a good replacement. Mazda has plenty of parts in the bin and (I hope) they are not dumb, so I think they won't make it because they don't think anyone's willing to buy one.

Sounds nice

ive seen builds on here on yt where they take a fox body 5.0 motor, trans, shortened drivetrain & rear axle, the cut the firewall out the miata and move it back 2"

To be fair I think any swapped Miata has traction issues unless you dropped a lawnmower engine in there 😭😂

I drove a red one here in Wisconsin back in early 90s. 5.0 swapped and guy let me drive it. Powerful as a mother trucker. Back tires were bald. Lol!!!!

I think "traction was an issue" is a big understatement.

and that is basically every car mazda makes. standing on that. Even the grocery getters are driver-focused.

If you don't like to drive the Miata then you're not a driving enthusiast

@@povertybay3260 also so many people deny that its a sportscar because it doesnt make 400+ horsepower, most "car enthusiasts" nowadays have sadly no clue about cars anymore

@@povertybay3260just because I have more fun in my Cummins, 300c, mk4 tdi or my motorcycle doesn’t mean I’m not a driving enthusiast. You’re an idiot man, we don’t all look for the same thing in vehicles. I love torque, deep rumbling exhausts with turbo whistle, exhaust breaks, and manual transmissions, you don’t that’s why I have what I have and you don’t

@@horrorkidd369 to add, how many cars make that sort of power out of the box anyway. People will be driving 4-6cyl Naturally aspirated cars that weigh 1500kg, might be a smidgen faster and still try to shit on Miatas lol

they can still make headlight that close they just have to be pedestrian friendly.

@@GrzegorzDurda Nobody should care about pedestrians. If they don't want to get hit, don't walk where cars are.

@@Orxbane That's what i said when took the pop headlights away. 100% agreed. We all lose due to morons.

@@Orxbaneyou cannot be this stupid. People live around innumerable cars at every given moment.

@@Orxbanenevermind, Pens fan. Explains it all.

Yeah, this I feel is the actual complaint people have and not this made up trash he's spouting for engagement.

Mazda is stupid if they don't offer to add pop-up headlights as a factory option

agreed, but i think pop-up headlights are illegal

​@@MycketTuff what he saying isn't made up ive seen way to many old head Americans arguing in comments

They’ve been ruined for me forever by Tik Tok kids making them wink.

True lol

Im sure there will be mods.

Ye

In Belgium the nd has less power and weights more than an nb

Pop-up headlights are illegal in EU because of danger to pedestrians (when hit). Therefore no mass production car will ever have pop-up headlights ever again. Well maybe if some US manufacturer decides to make a car just for the US market because you guys don’t care about others peoples lives

Kei cars.

agree

All the brapper fans would be happy with that

I would cop so fucking fast ong

I have had 3 RX7s would buy a 4th.

they did, it was called the Rx8 and it sold very poorly because it was not really reliable same for the rx7

There are the same people who asked for a Mustang SUV

I always see alot of older people driving it😂 Must be the coolest retirement car😂

Like Jason Cammisa said in his Icons episode. Because Mazda didn't mess with the formula is the reason it still exists today.

Same!!! The first car I ever bought with my own money was a 1994 NA. I bought it at age 27 in 2017, and my wife and I loved that car. I learned to drive manual with it. We cruised the rocky mountains in the summer, and took it to go skiing every weekend in the winter. Unfortunately, I totaled it when another driver on the road made an illegal left hand over a painted median and forced me to T-bone them. Such an injustice to lose a Miata that way... Big sad. I broke my arm and it healed. My heart? Never the same... RIP Devin.

Whatever. we assume that you would have died if you hadn't sold it, or you almost died when you wrecked it, or you died inside when it was stolen from you.

@@touristguy87Danm man i think you should look up mental heath counseling instead of being on youtube

@@cliffthelightning are you a mental-health professional? Or just reaching for a shield for your shattered ego

@@touristguy87 xd

They cant. Legaly making them road safe is basicly impossible in every major country.

they were outlawed from being put on new cars because if you hit someone with your car theyre gonna roll over the hood and the big sharp flat lights would hurt them a lot more. it sucks but it makes sense

I can't wait, only reason I'm becoming an engineer is to bring them back for good

hurr durr they hurt on impact hurr durr its unsafe We now have the means to close those in a fraction of a second on approach/on impact, but lawmakers seem to have more important stuff to do than appearing on their jobs

@@reelne look i get the pop up headlights but the miata itself is soon to be dead in a world where everyone drives a SUV or a truck the miata will might vanish for ever cause its just not safe enough anymore ..

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if the gr86 is not in the options. elsewere 50/50

@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot will will there be beer and snacks

Or the Celica.

People always forget that the MR2 wasn't a cheap car in the 90s. MSRP in 94, adjusted for inflation, was nearly 50k.

I had a 1991 MR2. It's the one thing I let go in life that I regret losing.

It's heavier by at most 300 pounds, really not much of a difference, and has a lot more power stock than the previous generations, it's definitely the ugly duckling though haha

Ooof

@sadMiataboy we have the same color lol, mines the nc2 with the face lift

@@keymow7162 nice, i got the base model from 2006. Its what got me into cars and eventually autocross. I wouldnt trade it for anything. Im hoping to do the 2.5 swap when my schedule and funds permit me. But until colledge is done ill settle for a nice set of coilovers and a welded diff lol.

​@@Notcomplete69if course the miata will get swapped

Finally someone who gets it. And I'm adding even more interaction right now but all I wanna say is thank you for being sane. Exactly my thoughts, I'm glad there's still people like you.

@@Cody_Cigar back at you, starts to feel mighty lonely out there with all the people being led around by the nose.

Damn, I would not have realized this if I didn’t read your comment. Guess I should start saying Bah and speaking sheep

No it perished because people stopped buying sports cars in favor of 4x4 land yachts. The Miata has actually gotten pretty expensive itself, and it's avg buyers is 75 year olds now. Most kids are probably gonna opt for a Mustang or a hot hatch.

It is without it

Perfect for when you crave the twisty turnies