Outside of an electrician inspecting the outlet and wiring at the bar the plaintiff really doesn't have a way to prove his case.

Even if the plaintiff is right, the Judge goes by proof.

As a professional sound man, let me see if I can clear this up. First, about the only thing a surge protector will help you with is a sudden momentary voltage spike due to a nearby lightning strike or something similar. They protect against nothing else. The less expensive ones are pure snake oil and don’t do much at all. I use a power conditioner that smooths out the roughness and noise in the electrical sine wave. These are much more expensive than your garden variety surge protector and I’ve never seen a DJ with one (not that none of them do.) First make ALL of your connections BEFORE plugging the system into the wall. This will prevent any damage from arcing. I carry a volt/ohm meter to check for out of range voltage and an outlet tester to check for proper wiring to the outlet. I have had excessive voltage blow all of the internal fuses in my amps, but thankfully Radio Shack was around at the time and a few bucks got us up and running. As for the computer, Google and KZfaq can be your friend. I had the same problem occur with my USB ports. Most laptops have internal protection for this. You can search for laptop USB ports not working and find a simple reset procedure that will take about 5 minutes and will require no tools, disassembly, or MONEY!

$100 for 9pm-1am? What a sucker! And this is why professionals insure their own equipment.

My question is this: If an electrician's kids misbehave, do they get grounded?

Judges cannot be expected to be experts in all fields. And people representing themselves, even if they are technically savvy, must understand that they cannot be taken at their word in these matters, because they cannot be unbiased toward themselves. Even if every word he says is true, when dealing in technicalities, he has to have expert testimony from an unbiased source.

Turns out the plaintiff’s own little diagrams were the defendant’s best evidence!😂😂🤣

It’s kinda annoying when JM doesn’t understand a subject and automatically bashes the plaintiff … just because she doesn’t understand this doesn’t mean it’s not true

Surge protectors... Like good ones, that are hundreds of dollars to buy, have insurances on them. You have to register the warranty on the surge protector and if you can prove the protector was faulty, he may be able to make a claim with the surge protector company that makes them. It happens! Source: I used to work years ago in high end home theater sales

“What you smiling about?” Stupid statement to the defendant. He just won. Is he supposed to be upset by winning?

I bet the clubs ground was not grounded. Had three equipment failures in the past that where from bad grounding. That's why I spent $40 on a surge protector with a built in ground loop detector. The guy should of brought in an electrician as a witnesses

Defendant: "She knows what she's doing" Kurt: "Do you?"...🤣😅😭😂

Any matter that involves expertise should require expert testimony.

“What are you smiling about” Doug and Kirt are legends!

Judge has no clue about a ground fault surge protector. I knew soon as i saw the title of this, i was not wanting to watch. Drives me crazy when some has no clue but act like they do and they are being the one that makes the final decision. lol

I think the best thing would have been to get a professional electrical Company to go and look at the buildings electrical outlet to determine if it was their fault or not

sadly this was out of her ball park. electrical issues like this can happen just as he was stating and since she doesnt understand she just thinks its not true

While things like the plaintiff explained do happen, there was no way to prove what he was saying was true unless he used a multimeter/voltmeter to test the outlets current the night it happened. There were too many electric-regulating components between the outlet and the USB port to conclude the damage was caused by the outlet.

I'm amazed they not only got a last minute replacement, but still had a packed house! That was incredible luck, for sure.

These court shows actually review statements and documents prior to the case and they do research. Somethings are sensationalized for TV. The litigants agree to abide by the judge’s decision. Even after all reviews are done prior or after, the ultimate decision is the judge’s and it’s based on evidence. You must be able to prove your case. Also Judge Milian has stated that she comes from a family of contractors. So it may be little, but I would think she has some knowledge.

Plaintiff has Barry Williams vibes going on.. 😁🤣

Doug at the end “what are you smiling out” HE WON! Duh lol

Plaintiff is out of luck. I liked when Kirk asked the defendant what are you smiling about. 😂

I played lots of bar gigs years ago. Having the stage polarity wrong is common enough that (good) guitar amps have a polarity switch in the back. You should always power up, then touch your guitar strings to the microphone and if you see a spark, flip the polarity. I've been mildly electrocuted more than a few times, but have been working with guys who have really been hit with a jolt. I think a lot of dive bars pay their electrician with free beer.

There's a very simple question to ask here. Does the defendant's distribution board have a residual current detector fitted? If it does then it would trip if there was a current leakage to ground as the plaintiff claims. It only takes a 30 mA leakage to trip an RCD. A picture of the distribution board would demonstrate that. This would also be an easy way to settle the argument if the defendant's distribution board does not have RCD protection. Just fit an RCD and see if it trips under the plaintiff's conditions. Talk of surge protection is irrelevant by the way.

The plug going into the computer could have been faulty.

A surge protector that is not designed for surge protection but instead ground faults, what? Don't come to court and attempt to be a subject matter expert on something you don't understand bring someone with you.

Dude thought the defendant was going to insult the judge and cut off real quick 😅

🤨 how can the defendant just say “i DONT think he know how to set up his equipment”

Plaintiff is a tiny bit patronizing.

It blitzed his stuff. The TV & a Speaker 🤔 Also a Surge can 100% be stringer then the surge supresser

While the plaintiff couldn't prove that things happened the way he said they did I believe they did happen that way, and the reason I believe that they did in fact happen that way is because the defendant acted very sketchy when questioned about the TV and the speaker with the other karaoke company, he was very hesitant to answer the questions asked of him, he didn't want to give very much detail, and when asked if he was there or not he had to think about it for a minute, why is that something that you would have to think about? you would remember if you were there or not, I think in his mind he thought if he gave too much details or told the full story in detail it would show some guilt on his side that the bar May in fact have old or faulty wiring, while that's still not sufficient proof he doesn't know that. The judge asked the plaintiff why the other karaoke company paid for the TV and ate the cost of the speaker if it wasn't their fault well that's easy just like the plaintiff said they rely on doing karaoke two nights a week, reputation and word of mouth is everything in the karaoke community and that line of business, they probably didn't want to risk the bar owner bad-mouthing them around town so they probably weighed the pros and cons of just eating the cost of that stuff. That's too much of a coincidence that the speaker went out with the other company, the television, and now this guy's equipment, something's going on with the wiring in that bar but I guess somebody would have to get an expert or an electrician and then the bar owner would have to allow them to come in and inspect and we all know that's not going to happen.

I like when the guy says that things are wired differently.... This s***'s been a standard for decades

I had this exact same thing happen. It fried 2 of my sound mixers. The outlet I was plugged into was on a dimmer switch which means the voltage varies. This variance can cause fires and in my case, a shortage that fried my equipment. This guy may have plugged into an outlet that was on a dimmer switch. But it wasn't mentioned

He plugged in his mixer board first. If there was a current running on the ground side it would have fried the mixer board instantly

I’m confused

Defendant is on notice there's an electrical issue... Now if anyone is injured from it the defendant is screwed.

I have lost 2 TVs due to electrical surges WITH a surge protector. It only helps against mild surges. And if there is live electricity going thru the ground the surge protector would do nothing to protect against that.

The plaintiff sounded just like Robert Downey JR.

This is case is complicated and way above my understanding. 🤦🏻‍♀️

The person wearing the gray vest behind the plaintiff is a smoke show.😍

It's possible the bar might have been at fault (no pun intended) but the plaintiff didn't have proof.

I'd hate to go on a tour bus that gets hijacked and taken to a parking lot to listen to the people's court. 🚐 🚌 lmbao 🤣

5:04 That vigorous nod 😂

I'm ignorant to the electrical issues in this case but I swear there are some knowledgeable people in these comments. 💯

So why would they send u to work somewhere they had issues in too

ridiculous case, the guy doesn't even know what he's talking about. And still he was surprised he lost.

Wow, putting blame the establishment for your faulty equipment, or maybe the way you hooked your equipment. Without a licensed electrician as proof you have no case.

The surge protector absolutely would have protected the equipment it was within his local network

He’s completely right I know what he saying I wish he would’ve brought an electrician with him

"Equipment varies." The plaintiff summer it up himself. The only other incident was with equipment someone else hooked up wrong. I'm not a DJ, but I was always told all secondary connections should be made BEFORE the plug into the outlet.

If the defendant ever said "aaaaahhh tentatively" to JJ she'd eat him alive. Shifty.

FYI: A surge protector only PROTECTS FOR LIGHTNING ONLY!!! SURGE PROTECTORS, DO NOT PROTECT AGINST SHORTS. OTHER DEVICES PROTECT AGINST SHORTS.

The plaintiff's equipment prolly old, outdated ... looking for way to pay for new and improved equipment 🙄

I don't believe he had a surge protector.

Say what you want but having another guy coming right after you and used the same outlet says a lot.

Cheap surge protectors you buy off the shelf are garbage. If you're a professional and rely on your equipment to make money, you invest in a real power manager. If he found a spark in a audio cable then current was getting past his "surge protector" and his power mixer.

... janky wiring at that bar ...

What is wrong with these two?! None of them could answer a question posed straight, like???

2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th! Did I win the prize today?!?!

Not all surge protectors protect against power issues. We had a master power unit for our development had a power surge and it forced more current to go through the system before it shut down. This sent a huge power surge to all the local homes and burn't out things like freezers and refrigerators, computers, electronics, microwaves, thermostats, etc. Our power company reimbursed these expenses for their customers who were harmed. I had some things on power surge protectors on others it did not. My surge protector for my music equipment and TV actually burned up and the equipment was not protected.

They has,, its they had... oh the verbiage on these court shows.

He lost his case when he said, surge protector... What he's trying to say makes nonsense. If I'm following him correctly that there was voltage in a ground/common wire? If that's the case it's his equipment that wasn't properly grounded. That's if I'm understanding him correctly?

It's hard to prove, especially if you don't know anything about electrical but some surge protectors doesn't protect on all lines ie hot, neutral, and ground. Some are different but alot of them usually monitor from the got to the ground for shorts and sometimes from the neutral to ground. If everything is hooked up correctly from the outlet and the surge protector isn't bad then it should be good to go. Everything is usually grounded though such as the bare metal cases, ground of the audio cable(hence why sometimes you here a light buzz in the background). So if the hot and ground was switched on the socket which is very bad bc then the bare metals or cases are now live and if you touch them and then touch another object you can complete the circuit and fry your self. There are a lot of variables at play here so my advice is before you plug your equipment up to anything get your self and outlet tester and make sure that both of the orange/yellow lights are lit. One orange light usually mean open ground or no ground and if the red light turns on that's very bad and means the hot or neutral is either hooked up to the ground or is in reverse

Awe poor guy had so much stuff printed, probably from Wikipedia 😅

She gets confused and try’s to blame the plaintive that he’s trying to confuse her.… Stop it

I’m no electrician, but wouldn’t it fry everything that was plugged into the mixer? Including the mixer, microphones, speakers, and anything else that was plugged into the mixer. Why only the computer?

Gotta be careful plugging in usbs and whatnot. That’s how you blow external hard drives and internal hardware.

My dimmer switches in my 52 year old house would fall under control of ghosts..on and off..dim to bright for hours.ir was incredibly annoying..I should have demanded that they do the dishes instead.

John reality check 123. Check check 123.

Maybe he rhought an extension strip was a surge protector. They look almost identical to me :)

I'm curious. The laptop shorted when plugged into the wall power. There was no other source of power from the mixing board or elsewhere. Therefore, the only source of the short had to be via the wall power, correct? Presumably, the surge supressor either failed to protect against the surge, or, like the plaintiff said, the surge came through the grounded leg of the power, correct?

G.F.I Ground Fault Interrupt Outlet and Surge protector. The outlet had no reset button. G.F.I.

I want to know how an audio visual cord caused an electrical spark.

THE PLAINTIFF WAS OUT OF GAS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING SURGE PROTECTOR ONLY HIS EQUIPMENT HMMMMM. BUT THEN STARTS DOUBLE TALKING. IT'S FUNNY ONCE THEY LOSE "I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK / EXPLAIN" NO YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IN TF YOU WERE TALKING ABT GOOFY. GOOD CALL

The most prejuice judge on t.v.

That was a faulty ruling but the plaintiff didnt know enough to present his case. Restaurants, bars and night clubs are notorious for faulty power. But bad grounds wreak havoc on sensitive electronics. Electricians are equally at fault. Just because you have power doesnt mean its good. Anyone ever hear of a ground guard? Theres a reason that exists.

This owner don’t know nothing but was there..

Um um um um um um um…Plaintiff tried to sound intelligent but he’s not really

They should have got an expert in this field to give their opinion .

If you plug just one thing in the wrong place it can blow.

As long as the outlet is providing 120 volts then end of story! If there was an issue with a power surge it's a problem caused by that City power plant! The only way he could win was if the bar owner wired a 220V to a 110 outlet he didn't tell him. That's it!

this guy made no sense another 'i have no evidence judge just trust me and give me money' guy

it's no way the wall outlet did that. if the other equipment wasn't damaged also

If there is anything going through ground, that means ground isn't ground. It's literally attached to the ground and will not pass electricity toward equipment but rather to the ground. That is the entire point of ground. Blaming anyone but whoever the electrician is would require proving that this is a known issue that was not addressed.

This has nothing to do with surge or surge protector. He is not plugging in the laptop's power cord; he is plugging in the audio cable when he said he saw a spark. In normal operation, audio cable don't carry enough voltage or current to create a spark. The most likely culprit is static electricity.

This is what insurance is for. If he’s going to run a business and have expensive equipment he needs to invest in insurance. Even without using my items professionally I’d have my computer insured.

Her hair is on point tho

the plaintiff should be much more SELECTIVE in who there work with,, this was a third world venue.

yooo chico bean !

Hot ground is very common it's usually caused by a loose outlet touching the metal box. It damages equipment with DC batteries because it has a ground to the batteries

If he had a surge protector it was cheap! I've bought cheap ones and they FAILED!

He probably had a $5 power strip and not a surge protector. Not all people realize there is a difference. Or even his extension cord could of been faulty stuff happens and that’s business.

Some idiot did change that outlet ,into 220 .period

I imagine the bar has a liability waiver. Plaintiff only had a chance if he had brought an expert witness. A lot of people improperly install outlets. Old buildings often are not properly grounded, even if a 3prong outlet is installed does not mean it is grounded. . Buying a simple plug in tester is not enough. Surge protector only protects surges, not faulty grounds.

The plaintiff tried to come over as very knowledgeable in his 'field' but just sounded smug and wanted to confuse the judge. He must have a faulty surge-breaker, otherwise none of this could have happened...

the defendant needs to learn how to explain things. he's basically talking around everything. fumbling his words. most of the time if anything sparks when hooking it to power its usually the equipment

He needed an electrician, lived with power issues. Sometimes a random spark brakes the surge protector & turns power off. When you flip power back on the plug still works. Not shore the bar owner was 100% honest.

the bar most likely is old and has non grounded electric which meens it should have 2 prong plugs not 3

I don't care how he tries to dress it up it has to be his equipment that's at fault. My understanding is he plugged all he's equipment into the surge plug. And then into the outlet plug and got a spark. Surge plug must av had a fault because it didn't protect any of it. Plus I'd like to know what happened to the main fuse board did the circuit trip out.. 🇬🇧