Update - After some analysis I decided to make a shielded mu metal variant which (in theory) could isolate the magnetic fields. I think this is what the original version is based on. I plan on building this variant in the next couple of months.

I had an idea like this in 8th grade but I couldn't find a way to adequately shield the magnets so the only part pushing on the magnets in the wheel would be the part that repels them. You always end up with the magnets pushing both ways and only adding a small amount of thrust. So they always come to a stop after a few minutes.

You can get longer lasting spin with no magnets and a flywheel. Permanent magnetic cannot be used to make a motor by themselves, since a unipolar magnet cannot be created, electrical fields are typically used to create a mono-pole moment (even though an electromagnet is still a dipole.

Ya, I fell into this hole too for a while. I bought a bunch of my own magnets and fiddled with them. I slowly learned that this will never work for a simple reason. A magnetic field isn't energy, it's a force. Seems silly, but it made things make sense in my mind. Energy is a transfer, a change in state. Magnetic fields are a constant force, unchanging. Even an electromagnet. Sure it can change, but not by itself. The current needs to change, which causes the change in the field. That's why, if you hold a magnet still near a wire, nothing will happen in the wire. It is exerting a force on the wire and it likely has an altered state due to the forces of the magnetic field, yet that state will be constant as long as the magnetic field stays constant. A magnetic field is basically a handle. You move the magnet, it changes the state of the handle, which changes the state of whatever it's attached to. Don't move the magnet, nothing changes. On these magnetic wheels, the opposing forces are constant, like you said. Energy, change, will always need to be added to the system to drive the wheel. It's a really fun project to play with and a good way to learn about how magnets work.

Great job. And thanks for your honesty, not like the others KZfaqrs fooling people.

It's hilarious how 90% of the comments are people telling OP what changes need to be made in order to get this impossible machine to run.

Great and honest - as opposed to so many others cheating... Thanks!

Thank you for your honest video tutorials. I loved magnetism. Watching with full support from Canada 🇨🇦.

So the main energy losses I can think of in the design are air resistance, bearing resistance and Eddy currents within the magnets, reducing these losses will let it spin for longer, although reducing these losses is also a challenge industries have dumped billions of dollars into optimizing

My dad made a small one of these, totally different magnet placements, and the ones on the outside rings were on springs inside their sockets. he had smaller magnets between the larger ones on the inside disk that pushed opposite way and they were all spaced further apart. his, he put on the shaft of a dvd burner motor and connected it to a battery charger for AAA's and C's and then to a lamp. he got it to power the lamp while charging the batteries after cranking it by hand for a few to get it going.

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You could also make the bearing that the wheel rests on to opposing magnets so that would reduce friction.

Drill a hole through those outside magnets and mount them so they can rotate! If done correctly you should be able to bipass the magnetic field of the next magnet in the series.

Love ya work dude 😎

All of the "functioning" Perendev motors that I have seen functioning have three sets of rotor/stators that are slightly offset so that one is in neutral while one is pushing and one is pulling..The angles of the magnets are supposed to allow more push than pull, creating continuous rotation. I'd love to see you do an experiment with this. Thanks and good luck.

Love your dedication, if you can make energy next to nothing it is a good start and magnets could help as a lubricant and be one component of a bunch. I'm new, don't critique to hard.

Nice setup! I think, with some changes, this really could work, but I have to test it myself first.😉

How about if you make each magnet in their respective hole rotate freely. You may also need to change the placement of each magnet to minimize the tugging or stalling effects of the current configurations. In other words, in the new configuration, at any time or location, each magnet is either pushed or pulled in the same direction. There is no free energy that can be extracted from this type system. However, it can do some simple work within the limitations of the magnetic energy stored in the magnets. You may also add some coils in the feedback path to compensate the rotor slip caused by applied load.

Try having the outer edge of the inner disk as a cog and the outer disk magnets on springs, As the inner disk spins the cog pushes the outer magnet away and then the spring returns it. My guess however is that the force needed to pushing away will be more than the rotational force induced by the magnets, but its worth a go.

According to Both GPT and Gemini if you were to use a superconductor for the outer magnets it will actually work (especially if you use magnetic bearings so there's no friction on the rotation). Of course today that also requires a lot more power to keep it cool as we don't have a room temp superconductor (yet) And the other thing would be to space the magnets out enough that it works more like a fly-wheel, so you would have more magnets on the outside frame than inner disk. And of course would have to run it in a vacuum to mitigate other forms of energy loss. So the concept would basically depend on 3 key things: 1. Gravity pulling a fly-wheel around. 2. Zero drag superconductors to "repel" the fly-wheel back up to the tipping point again where gravity will take over.. kind of like a roller-coaster I suppose. 3. Outer frame magnets sliding in and out of position to increase repel. Momentum will help improve efficiency further.. And it seems we're not breaking any laws of physics as we aren't creating energy or destroying it etc. it's just transforming. Anyway it's a fun thing to think about but totally based on fiction right now since we are missing a very important ingredient lol I'm also still a little sceptical on the physics of this as in my own experiments from years ago, I realised there's a very close relationship between the voltage needed to electromagnetically repel something, and the power it will generate as gravity pulls it back down toward the earth...

Maybe its more ok to spin it in vacuum case to eliminate air resistance. love your idea bo.

Michael James Brady the inventor of this "perendev" model did a few years in prison... it's still pretty cool in a workshop, but not in the living room. :)

I thought of this magnetic motor design myself.But I have no shop or tools Thank you for making This as it was just stuck in my head for the last 16 years. Comment made by.🎉 Pendragon, mystery school.

Getting free energy from magnets is like trying to get free energy from rubber bouncy balls.

Why do people keep trying to create a perpetuum mobile? It's literally impossible. Newtonian laws forbid it some run longer then others but without adding additional power it will come to a halt at some point.

I built one in 2002. The energy loss to make the magnets is not made up by the machine because gauss in the magnets is lost in use. The magnets are basically a battery in this case...

second la of thermodynamics explains behavior in CLOSED SYSTEMS. A Symmetric OPEN system in my opinion can leverage a dynamic magnetic field in the magnetic gate the "sticky point"

I had this very Idea when I was a kid. Glad someone built it 👁️👃👁️🙏

I think that a concept along these lines has potential for generating a small amount of power with minimal maintenance by the user. But it’s maddening how every video of one in action always features a cut just before the rotation gets going and it’s suddenly spinning at high speed and there’s a subtle whine that sounds suspiciously like an attached motor.

wow so cool man! I have a suggestion, I know its a bit complex but what if the outer magnets can be adjusted in angle? perhaps there is a sweet spot? also get some magnetic viewing film so you can see what's going on.

Have you tried removing every other magnet to see if the interference would be reduced or eliminated?

The magnetic field exists in an Inertial frame of reference, it is the force that pulls-straight inwardly into infinity, having no angular acceleration and no angular de-acceleration. When we think in terms of adding energy to a spinning wheel, it's all about the force that pushes & bends and or the boundary producer. Perpetual motion can only exist in a inertial frame of reference being with respect to our size & time domain. Only the plugging force, (angular acceleration) keeps us from being sucked inwardly into infinity... Hence the term, boundary remover! Cool video, your work is greatly appreciated, thank you. 🙂

I wish I had a 3D printer, make one more in the same disc shape using the V-gate pattern wrap around.

hello, nice project! why don't you try to make the fixed magnets turn in a chained way to the wheel? like a crankshaft system connected to the camshaft, only in your case the wheel through a gear wheel rotates some external magnets in so that they continue to create thrust and move all together

I can give you a project what will work, but i have it only on paper and in my head. But it wil work better then what you have made. I got my idea when I was 15 years old, now I am 55. But i have never seen my in internet.

What will happen if you consider the resonant frequency of the magnets and increase the speed to that level?

Could you use vibration to levitate the spinning wheel to remove friction

Did you make modelling it in magnetic analyzing software cad? Before that time wast?

I have a thought have you tried using a cam on your shaft with a leaver that pushes a are out from the spinning magnets. Or a leaver that would push up a small piece of lead plate in between the magnets to block the magnetic filds

If you listen you can hear it slowing down. If you watch it the pattern it initially makes changes as it is slowing down to a stop

I would consider running horizontally, so that gravity is only effecting friction in the presumed bearings.

Can you use two wheels geared together for a continuous magnetic repelling effect?

Awesome lecture...

For 15 years, I have been working with angular resonance and I am ready to do the electricity generation project together with investors who agree to make an official protocol. Everything will be done openly after the signatures are signed.

If you are done with this project, I'll buy the magnets from you! Didn't realize how expensive they were when ordering a kit lol :)

If you add a pulley and belt you could hook it to a small generator or alternator and battery that would be the power source to run a bigger generator.

Make individual magnetic circuits to guide the repulsive side of the magnets away from the next approaching rotor magnet. Think of it like a transformer core and how it works. It completes a magnetic circuit and the magnetic field at a positive value away from the core surface becomes extremely weak. Just something to think about.

It’s actually quite satisfying to know that there is a limit to the physical laws. That whatever you do nothing unexpected will happen. When you define ‘this will not actually work’ it is almost as deceiving as stating ‘i think therefore i am’. Which starts with stating ‘I’ as an certainty, therefore giving a flawed logic statement. So by saying ‘this will not actually work’ i hope you are addressing the whole idea of perpetual motion. Not just this machine.

perhaps putting the gate magnet on a rocker arm driven by a cam on the motors shaft or maybe an electromagnet powered by a capacitor being charged by a stator?

respect ! Do you send postage to Germany?

Always love these science gadgets, would it work like a fan?

Brilliant... idea... Good... Keep it up... There is still scope for further R & D.

Cześć, Czy myślałeś o tym, żeby na przykład wyizolować magnetycznie pola interferujące? Druga opcja jaką rozważam to dwa lub trzy rotory. pozdrawiam Cię serdecznie, mam nadzieję, że nie będziemy musieli stworzyć magnesów jednobiegunowych.

I wonder if reducing the outer magnets #, say maybe 4 total and having the inner magnets on a rachet gear type of system where they only get pushed out into the magnetic field of the outer magnets at the right time would work. I think you might have to offset the timing so one magnet at near maximum force is overcoming the next magnet that's ramping up friction losses. So 4 outer magnets, maybe 5 inner on the rachet? Idk still fun to think about though.

you can also overcome sticky point in vgate designs with liquid cooled superconductor, i have heard from an inventor that he has tried it successfully using liquid cooled superconductor in the dead spot of an vgate design

Extremely strong Betteridge's law of headlines with this video.

You could put a arm offset a bit out from the middle and it would pull that other magnet back and forth as it went around ...

Congratulations !

Great project. What if the outer magnets were on arms that were pushed away by cams our gears when the center wheel spins. In the same manner you pushed and pulled a magnet away to show how resistance prevented it from spinning continuously. Perhaps if timed properly there may be a better result.

Thank you for try.

Can you please tell me the measurements and size of the magnets and the measurements where we put the the magnets I mean all measurements so I can make this

I don't have any background on engineering nor english is my first languege. I believe that to create a funcional lightsaber, regardless of type, you need a way to manipulate the shape and strength of a magnetic field, and a way of create plasma (hot or Cold), and miniaturize everything. the magnetic field would give the shape of the blade and the strength of the field need to be either variable so the energy can interact with the enviroment or need some form of "miracle" point that can secure the energy inside the field and allow the field to disperse for interaction with the enviroment. plasma has many forms there is grape plasma that apears in a microwave oven to atmosferic entry. from easy to hard i believe that cold plasma lightsaber are easier but i have no ideia on how destructive.

Time the amount of time the rotor spins without the outer magnets, it will be the longest. It's just a flywheel:)

Guess the sound we hear is all resistance? Less sound smoother turn?

this would work if the magnets on the outside were electromagnets as you could then control when they are active and when they are not kinda like a rail gun or particle accelerator and it would still be able to output more energy than you input as you only need them to activate for less than a fraction of a second although this would be happening constantly

The problem ive always had with magnets, were the magnets themselves. The field needs to be warped so the field can be controlled into a direction. I havent had a chance to try it, but ive been thinking since copper and aluminum can change the magnetic field, is using some sort of tube to narrow the magnetic field.

Awesome 👍 Did you notice, it has also created an optical illusion 😊 Can it run forever? If not, then why?

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i would perhaps use magnets facing up and the wheel part magnets facing opposite sides of it

This guy just solved all of our energy needs!! Anyway, type 1 civilization when??

it would help if you used prime numbers for the inner and out side magnets so that they an never be in-phase

Please check the magnetmotor shown by Muammer Yildiz in 2014 at the university of Delft in the Netherlands. The video can easily be found on KZfaq.

Try sterling engine with heat from sunlight or some hybrid like wind plus hydroelectric, thanks for your efforts, kudos 👍.

Does it generate electricity when you spin it?

I also want to make a perpetual motion machine, but I don’t know where to put the electric motor

If a motor is to be moved by permanent magnets alone, then it must also be possible to build a motor based on falling stones. The ground and the stone also attract each other. But no one has ever succeeded in doing so. You have to lift the stone up again! In the same way, magnets that have been tightened must be released from each other with great force.

Good job

IMPORTANT: Try this out. I once had seen a paper that had information on how to build a FREE ENERGY/MOTOR GENERATOR. The motor/generator once started would keep running and you would get Free Over Unity Electrical Energy .The person had used Permanent Magnets and Electro Magnets with High Voltage Capacitors. With electro magnets and capacitors you can have a controlled magnetic field that stops the moment the capacitor is drained of its energy. With an all permanent magnet system you need to physically move one of the magnets away from the other or you get a clogging effect where motion of the rotor stops. By using electro magnets and capacitors or super capacitors you can have a controlled intermittent magnetic field. You can control the magnetic field with by an optical switch or better still with a solid state Hall Effect Sensor Switch. The electro magnet can be used as a generator to recharge the capacitor. You may need a diode to ensure the capacitors get the proper charging polarity. By switching a magnetic field on and off you can stop the clogging effect therefore the rotor can keep on turning and keep gaining momentum. I Reply

did u investigate de the SEARL motor ?

Hi James , No such thing is a perpetual magnet machine ! I been playing with magnets all my life as a kid ! Reasons is because the NORTH & SOUTH MAGNETIC FIELD CANCELLED OUT EACH OTHER IN THAT ROTATION !

Try a spiral of similarly oriented magnets in the rotor with a full flat north and a full flat south on the there side of the rotor, because the locking of the north and south poles actually rotates at all times maybe the magnets oriented inward torward the center of the rotor will just get caught in the north south vortex and then rotate more like a tesla turbine than a pushing device, more like magnetic friction.

Would be interesting to see that running with an IR camera.

Where is the shielding? Why it has only one rotor?

The magnetic coupling of pumps and motors. The magnetic rotational motion direction or motor, must have both , like North pole and south pole., similarly magnetic attraction force as well as magnetic repelling force. It must be connected to a motor which keeps on rotating with the same energy power, generated by the rotating magnetic coupling.

That original motor had springs at the inner side from the magnets, they dont been complete static. It also had 3 wheels, where it seems, that the 2 other helped to overcome the sticky point. But there been to less informations about the device itself to reproduce it.

You have to couple this to help a wind generator spin more easily even with little wind.

These magnets at their closest appear to be an inch apart, they'd work considerable better if closer, and may be the reason this doesn't work. We also have no way of knowing the polarity of these magnets, I feel it'd likely work better if magnets were repelling one another. I also think if attracting magnets were built into the support structure of the hub, there'd be a pull from the inside of the circle and a push from the outside, that little extra pull could make a big difference, also I's suggest that the wheel has significantly more mass and weight required to hold the magnets than needed. There's also considerable noise from the hub which indicates significant friction, I'd suggest that using a bicycle wheel with proper machining and bearings could make a large difference.

I would leave only every sixth magnet on the rotor end. That way there would be much less interference. I doubt it would work, but it would be nice to try something like that and show in a next video.

2nd / 3rd law of thermodynamics Plus the law force the govern our universe -kinetic energy. If you don't apply kinetic energy to particles or magnetic fields from and external source you ALWAYS end up with a energy loss

How can i get this creative thin..and what will be cost

How about using A rolomite to create magnetic reciprocal motor?

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I have thought of using bismuth as a magnetic pusher and steel as a puller. I wonder if you can use this as half of the magnet motor with magnets in or out that push or pull the wheel depending on the material facing the magnetic fields.

Wouldn't it run longer if it was horizontal instead of vertical ? you would be reducing a little friction due to gravity pulling down on the bearings

If inital voltage was provided by pv and hall sensors in combination with an algorithm based current controller to maximize efficiency across all bands of performance

mu metals and a few other material types such as electronic magnetic repression and special paints, allow you to make “fake monopoles”, you can’t beak the laws of physics, magnetic induction and motion but you can neutralize them to some extent. You might also be able to use electrostatic forces instead of magnets. I asked an LLM to summarize the basics of the technique. electrostatic forces arise from electric charges, which can be considered as monopoles in the sense that an individual charge (either positive or negative) can exist independently. For instance, an isolated electron has a negative charge, and an isolated proton has a positive charge. The electrostatic force between two charges follows Coulomb's law, which states that the force is directly proportional to the product of the charges and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. So, while electric charges can be seen as monopoles in terms of their isolation, they differ fundamentally from the concept of a magnetic monopole. The similarity is that both electric charges and hypothetical magnetic monopoles exert forces that diminish with distance according to an inverse-square law. Remember though you are limited by the max “ pressure “ insulators can hold back before there is a short. electrostatic forces arise from electric charges, which can be considered as monopoles in the sense that an individual charge (either positive or negative) can exist independently. For instance, an isolated electron has a negative charge, and an isolated proton has a positive charge. The electrostatic force between two charges follows Coulomb's law, which states that the force is directly proportional to the product of the charges and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. So, while electric charges can be seen as monopoles in terms of their isolation, they differ fundamentally from the concept of a magnetic monopole. The similarity is that both electric charges and hypothetical magnetic monopoles exert forces that diminish with distance according to an inverse-square law. I can dream of building an engine that tops off the electrostatic charge , and allows you to have a very efficient engine from algae power lol High-Voltage Transmission Switching: Utilizes advanced methods to switch and control the flow of high-voltage electrical currents. Superconducting Loop: A loop made of superconducting material, which can carry electrical current with zero resistance. Simulated Multiple Windings: Achieved through a unique configuration or operation of the superconducting loop, giving an effect similar to having many windings in a traditional electromagnetic setup. Slow Electron Propagation: Utilizing the relatively slow drift velocity of electrons in a conductor to affect the electromagnetic properties of the system. Monopole-Like Magnetic Effects: Creating magnetic field configurations that mimic some aspects of theoretical magnetic monopoles, using the properties of superconductors and electromagnetic field manipulation.

Second one of some description beside it working in tandem? They would push each other lol.

I built my magnetic perpetuum mobile using aluminium hands, which would move in between approaching magnets of equal polarity, waiting for the magnets to pass, and then pulling the aluminium hands out, by which means the repelling magnets would turn the wheel. As simple as that! Based on our physics' teacher's explanation, that "metals" shield off magnetic lines of force, I chose a non-magnetic metal like aluminum, which would not have to fight the attraction of either magnets, and would not require energy to be moved. Needless to say, it did't work: Aluminum does not influence the magnetic lines of force, and as a result, it cannot "cut" them or "shield off" magnetic forces. Lesson learned: When a physics teacher talks about "metals" in magnetism, he might as well be thinking of "ferro-magnetic metals" only.

You should put plate magnets instead of those square. The secret is in magnetic flux geometry. Not all kind of shapes are suitable for magnetic motor.

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