She looks 100% Latina to me. I don’t know what you’re talking about.

@@MarioRodriguez-gr8wc Okay, she looks Latina to YOU. I'm sure there are others who mistake her for white though.

Kirsten Iturrino 😂 I guess. I don’t see how she can be mistaken for white.

@@PsychonautDreams1251 girl sometimes comprehension is lost

Mario Rodriguez you need to continue to educate yourself on what COLORISM is, because your not getting it.

Well, it's passed along as part of colonialism.

I am a white Cuban girl who married into a south Asian family. They glorify our child and constantly brag at how “light” he is within his south Asian family. On the contrary, my family did not like my husband because he is “dark” to them and they used to say things like “what a shame”.....its so wrong....I genuinely fear for my child when he gets older because this video mentioned bullies and my son definitely looks more south Asian than white....I wish the world was not this way...

east asian communities

All POC communities have this, even individually by country...

Let Latinos have our moment.

Thotimus Prime I was thinking the same thing people that are brown skin always play the maid novelas have change but for Melissa to saying she dark girl please

@May Sal The one drop rule exists in Latin America too. She is not seeing as pure white because she is a “mestiza” a person with mixed Native American and European ancestry. The lead roles in telenovelas tend to only go to pure European Latina actresses like Ludwika Paleta, and Angelique Boyer.

@@purplecatinlove1900 to some is dark

I used to watch a lot of TV novelas when I was younger but only one of them had a Afro-Latino. Mexican TV likes to pretend that race doesn't exist.

She’s darker then a white person lol she’s coloured, it’s obvious. Did y’all see her DNA results? She’s mestizo

she used the word 'passing" which means she thinks she passes for white if you pass as something people think you are that thing thats not rocket science

Snuff Daddy the word “passing” doesn’t mean you necessarily think you look white it mean that in relation to other people of color you can pass as “other” or something else in closer proximity to whiteness. Black people use the term “passing” as well. do you think they use it to say they think they look white? absolutely not. it’s a term to describe your proximity to white on the color scale.

She looks white to me

@@menkae6708 not to white people

Snuff Daddy I’m white and she’s white lol have you been to Southern Europe?

You are so right. It saddens me that darker skinned people are looked down on. My family is Native and in Mexico they have always discriminated the indigenous for their skin and facial features, but others are praised for having pale skin. It’s just sad that we are in 2020 and people still receive discrimination 😔

Thank you for talking about indigenous people! Its been bothering me that Pero like never talks about it. I know talking about black latinos is important but the experience of colonization and racism is different for indigenous people. For the latinos in Pero Like I think its important to talk about Native Americans. If you live in the U.S your living on Native American land and to never bring that up is very disappointing. They need Native Americans on the channnel.

White skin is a phenotype. White Mexicans, unless their parents are inmigrants to Mexico, are still mixed.

Being light skin in Mexico like Maya is not preferred at all, but also darker skin isnt either, the ideal skin color for Mexicans is a lighter shade of brown or olive skin tone. But someone like Maya would get made fun of for being too light, but her brother would too for being too dark. Take Canelo as an example, he was actually discriminated for his skin color, his freckles and hair color. He was not praised or worshiped for being light, it was the opposite, that is because he is TOO light for the liking of the Mexican beauty standard. So this whole "light skin is preferred in Mexico" is pure nonsense, if that was the case, Mexico would have a big skin bleaching problem like it is found in black africans, african americans, black caribbeans, south asians and Asian people. Mexico doesn't have that at all because despite the beauty standard, people are still happy with their skin tone. In fact, tanning beds and tanning sprays are a bigger seller in Mexico by a large margin than skin bleaching products. Being caucasian in Mexico is not the standard of beauty LOL where do you get that from to begin with? Please dont say novelas because I will laugh if you do. The beauty standard in Mexico is having olive skin, high cheekbones, large eyes, long straight hair with a blend of indigenous and european features. Hence why most models in Mexico are MESTIZOS, and why most Edecan girls are MESTIZAS. White people get the best treatment in the USA because in this country, they make the MAJORITY In Trinidad, the ones who get the best treatment are INDIANS because they are the MAJORITY in Mexico, the ones who get the best treatment are MESTIZOS, because they are the MAJORITY

She is probably more Caucasian than anything else. Most Latino's are predominantly Causacoid with a bit of Native or African.

Latin/Latino/Latina is NOT a LOOK, not a SKIN Color, NOT a DNA. Latin (Latin is the correct way in English) it's all about Romance Languages and Roman Latin Culture. Blame Mexican Chicano Frank del Olmo because he created this identity problem for you but choosing "Latino" instead of "Latin American/s" to identify your ethnicity. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oN9xnaplzbbHm3U.html These are the requirements to be considered Latins. You must speak a Romance language, have Roman Latin Culture, coming from a country whose laws are based on Roman Laws and whose religion id Roman Catholic. Latin/Latino/Latina doesn't mean what you think that it means. Usdedes estan confundidos!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Union

There's nothing to change. You are perfect as you are. Be proud of your people and your bloodline always.

I stay calling out these novels and shows, like, I know there are latinx actors a darker shade than alabaster who could play one role in this narconovela.

I kind of wonder if it's reinforced in real life, like job interviewers judging darker skinned (or fill in the blank) applicants as "unworthy" of the job.

You’re not indigenous.

@@tiny2315 How do you know that?

Same lmao but i've heard that in Mexican and other Latin American telenovelas, whenever they can't find a dark skinned person to play the help they usually pick a light skinned mestiza to do it

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I was thinking that same thing. But in no way was she dark. It seems like it was just a hair and eye color difference.

Well it also says something about who is allowed on tv.

But I think that was why she said at the end that she realized she's privileged. She is very light, but in comparison to the other actresses, she was darker, and she had dark hair and eyes instead of lighter hair and eyes. So, yeah, it speaks to how in the industry, they're likelier to cast people with lighter shades of skin tones than darker ones, which is wild when you consider the average Mexican or Latinx person is much darker than she is. It really is a scale, and she's near the top, but not right at the top.

Right? And the ones they showed like white rich characters looked the same skin tone as her? Just dyed blonde hair....

So many telenovela actresses look like her. She is super white to me. Sure some are dyed blonde but there's plenty with her skin tone. She's like porcelain. They should have chosen a much darker person to speak on this.

IIRC there are actually still a couple of school districts in the South that are still not integrated.

I didn't know some schools got around full integration by doing that. Thank you for sharing!

You’re not latina.

And for no reason at all

Ken93 why do you think it is not an important conversation to have ?

K Ilex it’s a very important conversation to have not fair that my cousins get discriminated on my dads side

AMÉN!😤

Same, this so important.

Ready or not it's time

I know what you mean, but waiting that they are ready, is not the solution.

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RalphE Archive Huh? That’s not an opinion that’s a fact 🤨

So true but they better get ready

IN FACT they put us as white so they could LEGALLY discriminate against us. You know we had to get to the back of the bus too right? “That’s discrimination” “no it isn’t we see you as white....no get to the back!” we had to take it to the Supreme Court to fight that shit and started the 1st go fund me in the process. Stop letting sell outs and white people trying to divide our people teach u about our history

The only way you're "full Mexican" is if you're 100% indigenous.

@@macktasticification I'm speaking from experience and what i had seen for myself. I am not following from what other people had told me like the claim you made.

@@volcrazy89 I meant both parents being Mexican, I should've clarified it better.

@@PapiGalleto bruh im "passing" and I get fucked with by cops, followed in stores, fit descriptions, etc etc so im calling bullshit. and again the idea is not racist cops or white people its fake colorism in the latino community so your examples are mute anyway. FOH

Stop trying to absolve ur guilt by putting ur family’s racism on all of us. You were raised by racists sorry that’s not our fault sell out

Damn, I really feel you. Specially because I grew up in Northern Europe. I went to an all blonde and white school and girls would tell me that I was "dirty" because I was brown. It's so sad that this has to happen

bby bih so white people tell you you’re not pretty because you’re brown and that’s colorism in the Latino community? STFU wanna be apart of something sell out

@@bbybih3893 I'm really sorry to hear that. It can be VERY confusing as a kid.

@@macktasticification wait what? It's not like I chose to be bullied for being brown.

My family’s from Argentina and most of the people there are light skin so my whole family expect my dad is (my moms side is white and is more tied to their European ancestry). I have light skin, light brown curly hair and hazel eyes. So when my family moved to the states we were all seen as white. We never faced discrimination in Argentina bc of our skin tone but when we got to the states Latinos never saw us as Latinos I was always called names and whenever I spoke Spanish I felt like people where trying to look for when I messed up ( most of the time they couldn’t understand me bc my Argentine accent strong and we say thing differently.) But I did notice that my dad faced discrimination against him bc he has dark brown curly hair and a mediterranean tan color, I dont know if that’s right but he is just darker but people would always try and speak Spanish to him or white people would say “gracias” and other annoying stuff.

My fiance is Cuban him and his family moved from Cuba to FL when he was 10. He has green eyes blonde hair. People always think he is White until he opens his mouth then they are like what the hell are you. You are not from America. It happens to me but not from my fellow PR. It's always from other races. They are like who brought Becky. Then when I talk they are like you sound like you are Spanish & I'm like Yes I'm PR.

The sun isn't white

@@kofikofi2403 So wait, dark, curly, locks of hair, nice Mediterranean bronze, tan skin, and if he was in shape well which equals = The Latin Lover Ideal or runway "Italic Greek" beauty standard! I'm so sorry. That's so messed up because (well I know he's your dad, BUT....) that is considered extremely beautiful, handsome and sexy! Wow!!!!! No, no, no!!!! Got to love that sunglow!!!!!

Dumpster Jedi I get you. I’m a fellow Cubana and on my mom sides it’s pure Spanish descendants (so she’s white as hell and has dark hair and light hazel eyes) but on my dads side it’s kind of mixed (one of my dads grandparents was half black, his mother is Spanish and I’m pretty sure he’s got some indigenous blood in him, so of course he’s a lot darker than my mom has black curly hair and incredibly dark eyes) so my sister took after my dad in color and I took after both of them. I’m tan have dark wavy hair and have dark eyes and a big nose and lips( my sister got lucky she doesn’t have a big nose or big lips) but I’m always being thrown shade (by my lighter cousins) that I’m not dark enough or that I’m not light enough or that my skin is the perfect “Latina” color (same cousin has said all three btw) and I’m just sitting here like what the hell? What’s my skin got to do with me speaking Spanish and being from somewhere else?

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Omg I love the feeling when your talking to someone with a heavy accent and you speak Spanish and they are so confused and do the whole run down of omg u speak Spanish ,where you are from, u where so light I thought u were a gringa. 😂

@@kofikofi2403 or "where did you learn Spanish?" En la pinche casa.

Lol. My mom does the same. She's even had Latino's speak bad about her in Spanish without realizing she knows everything they said. I realized there is a privilege you inherit with a parent who is white. Growing up no one ever assumed that my mom didn't speak Spanish or that she was Latina. I think when you see my mom and sister who are both white with green & hazel eyes people just assumed that I was mixed. But both of my parent where born and raised in central america. My dad just happens to have more indigenous roots than my mom. My siblings and I just go from light to dark and I am barely passing as "dark skin".

Same thing happens to me. I look very black passing and some people get shocked when they find out I know Spanish.

That’s exactly what it’s like with me. My fiancé is a white man and people assume that I am also a white person and get treated very differently when I pull out Spanish. My brother is significantly darker than I am with the same parents and I have seen how different they treat him.

This person does not pass as white

It’s not even a ethnicity

@@MeleeMaster22 that isn't the point. What is is that there are still different shades of skin, and colorism still applies to hispanic/latino communities.

Ser latino tampoco es una etnia. Solo son personas que hablan un idioma que proviene del latín. Ergo, latinos también son los franceses, españoles, italianos. Ser latinoamericano ES ya otra cosa. Ser latini NO ES UNA ETNIA.

@@MeleeMaster22 it's a culture, es una cultura.

I cannot tell you how much I relate to this, I was bullied and still am for being a lighter skin tone than my classmates and they refuse to believe I am at least somewhat Mexican even though I speak Spanish fluently and was raised in a town very near the border. My father is fully American and my mother is fully Mexican with half of a European background so you can tell how white I would look. I completely understand what you are going through so your not alone ✨

@@dailynb.866 I'm so glad to know that I finally have some one to relate to 😊

@@melanieortega3535 same here 😊

I understand your experience as I still know if to be true firsthand.

Maria Yniesta Same here girl!

Mel S well said!

Latina with light skin privilege is white passing to others despite what you think

Jorgiana Lopez my skin is a light tan color. Trust me, no one confuses me as white and I have no white privilege because I’m not white passing. But I acknowledge that even though I’m considered to be tan, I certainly have more privilege than Afro latinas and that’s a conversation we should all be having.

How does that make sense

Alessandra Nuñez where did you get lost?

Mixed? Lol we are the ones who gave you your names language and lighter skin. Idiof

Ridiculous! Smdh

Karl Quintana you say “we” as if you had anything to do with anything😂 you did nothing! your ancestry probably has a long line of incest and all that incest rage wants to make you feel important

@@karlquintana2680 wow where your proof? Find out all Egyptians Lands Plus the world even with Chinese Japanese & New arabs Their still Wink Brown 😂 we still make up 96% of world nations plus all Lands was is whose? Ohhhj ok we spew out? What lies full blown aids Like all made up today okay live Non Zombie 🧟‍♂️ minds okay bye Be happy 😊

You're not a Latina. You're a "Latin American woman". Latin/Latino/Latina only refers to Roman Latin Languages and Roman Latin Culture. Nothing to do with Skin Color or Race. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oN9xnaplzbbHm3U.html

Its not that your white passing its that Egyptians are of the Caucasoid race

@@user-gd5dj2nj6c 'caucasoid race' that is such an outdated and historically racist term. Her family are North Africans, they are not white and they are not perceived as white. Race is a social construct and the classifications differ around the world, but it can be seen that her family experiences discrimination for being brown and in Canada for example, North Africans have their own category and are not considered white. So yes, if her family is full of non white Egyptians then she is white passing.

@@user-gd5dj2nj6c egyptians are not caucasian pfft. Such a lie.

@@alnajjar2726 I am not saying they are white, im saying they share the same Caucasoid skull structure

@@tablecloth1943 re-read my comment i never said they were white. All i said is they have the Caucasoid skull structure. Even people from Indian have that skull structure

You are you come from every race mixing Mutants

THIS. ESTO. 'Latinos' It's already okay

para gustos colores, a mi en lo personal no me molesta.

😂 that’s also the first thing I think of when I hear that term. I get what you mean

Your ignorance is showing. Please educate yourselves.

I’m glad you said this. I’m a black American person with no Hispanic decent and I believe that it’s really an American thing but when I talk to white people about it they make me feel like I’m making things up in my head or something

Why others just can't embrace others because of their personality and actions versus letting someone's skin color determine how to approach & treat them is just weird !

Carlos Ramirez damn bro that’s fucked up

A Scott right

Is because the USA is divided by skin colors idk why they are so stuck in classifying people by skin color like the color of ur skin in USA is a main topic almost every week

That was your PERSONAL inferiority complex.

So sorry about your experience. I wish you lots of love! I'm also Mexican on my mother's side, but I have Native, European and Black in me. I moved to Germany recently. 😊

@@mariaalexander427 Not the part about getting bullied and the effects on her.

There’s NOT such a thing as “white passing”. Latino is not a race therefore if you’re white and speak Spanish you’re just white. Hispanics need to stop getting brainwashed by American politicizing beliefs. The girl in the video is clearly just metizo but just as Italians have moor decent and are consider white a person could have some indigenous heritage and also be white. It’s not a matter of looking Nordic or not being white, just look at most of Southern Europe.

MEN Kae It depends though. I have friends who have one indigenous parent and one white parent, and they look more like their white parent. Hence, they are “white passing” because although they are mixed they pass as white.

Colorism most definitely exists in America, black community included. I believe (well know) that colorism is perpetuated not by whites, but by minorities. WE’RE the ones that perpetuate the idea of lighter being better. That’s why you always hear minorities (especially those of darker skin complexions) fetishize light-skinned/mixed babies with curly hair and light eyes.

It really does depend the area you live in. Personally, I grew up in a pretty Latino area, so I didn’t really see it that much. However, once I moved to a whiter area I know that I have personally seen people treat my darker skin Hispanic friends with more indigenous feature differently than my lighter skin/more European looking Latino friends. My darker friends would always get Mexican jokes and made fun of for having smaller eyes, while my lighter skin Latino friends never experienced that.

No your not the only one diana I'm taino puerto rican like redbone type and i can honestly say whether in puerto Rico or brooklyn new york I've never faced any discrimination and my relatives are all colors none of us ever had a problem in my opinion white privilege don't exist any where especially today in america

That’s just school. I bet You will face it when it comes to making $$ like buying property in certain neighborhoods, applying for certain jobs, trying to start a business, getting certain customers, trying to get your kids in certain schools) basically when you become a full fledged adult.

@@realSimoneCherie No i haven't I'm 35 years old and worked in all kinds of neighborhoods. Again to me this video is full of false propaganda to serve afro centrism which is nothing but bullshit and its why we the hispanic community will never be as strong as we can be especially in america this is an example of wanting to be black when we're not to say there's white privilege in our community is a laughable joke. I live in new york i see all types of hispanics succeeding

I know right?

It's always been like that in most federalized tv

Diego, I am really sorry this keeps happening to you.

Sorry to hear that man :/

As a Canadian..wow

That's because Mexico is one of the most classist colorist countries on earth

How big is your nose

That’s fucked up bro it’s true when I go down to Mexico and visit the darker skinned people get last dibs and the lighter skinned people go first

Crazy how different our experiences are. I got picked on in the US for being too light all the time by Latinos. Even my own Mexican family tells me to tan

Return to Christ

We love our novelas and don't think about the subtle messages they're sending us. Once you see it, you can't stop noticing it. We have to start getting our elders and the next generation to discuss it so they can recognize it and create change.

It's not older generation, it's anyone born raised in Latin America. It's why you use eurocentric terms to start with like Latino rather than mestizo because of colorism in Latin America

Growing up in Los Angeles me and the homeboys would always jump white boys for fun lol

@@waylonmercy8125 That makes you a garbage person hey 👋 I guess.

You should have told your classmates that being Puerto Rican or latina isn't a race, is a culture. A latin country can have people of many shades of skin colors. For example, i'm from Argentina and you can find white, mixed or darker skin people. There's asian and black latinos too. So being latino doesn't have anything to do with race.

@@waylonmercy8125 💀💀

@@rocioluque956 EXACTO.

This is what Spanish Media should be shedding a light on. But nope its Novela after Novela. Its a real shame.

we need to talk about assimilation too. Your parents named you Abigail so you can appear more Gringa friendly.

*also they would accuse me of acting “gringa” because I caught on to English faster*

*LATINO community exept youre a gringo who dislikes disrespects and does not value latino culture and language

Latino*

Ojberretta Berretta I wrote Latinx to be more inclusive of our fellow transgender and non binary Latin people. It has nothing to do with disrespecting our language and culture. I’m just trying to include all people. Have a great day ☺️

Rinqo25 *Latinx. I said what I said. Have a great day ☺️

@@isabellagonzalez5695 while you think you include lgbt ppl....because u dont know or understand the spanish language...you are actually excluding around 650million ppl...because they cannot pronounce the word....so...you are insulting our language and culture...because it was gringos who do not value respect or understand our language who invented the word...so do you exclude 650mio ppl to include a tiny miniscule minority who do not understand the spanish language..because they think its excluding...its not excluding anyone....while latinx excludes 650mio ppl whos mother tongue is spanish

I know only dumb butts say because of the color your not Mexican. Your face features have to do with a lot of it.

I'm so sorry you experienced that. That story broke. Just remember that this is a time for change which means we can now talk about those issues that we never dealt with before. Let's take this time to start a conversation with our family members who make those hurtful comments/gestures.

Ashlee, the real test is correcting bigoted peers you really like.

My family is very racially ambiguous as well! I’m the most white-passing out of all of them, but even then I’ve been labeled different things than my actual background. It’s frustrating lol. I still benefit from colorism no doubt, but I’m just stating my own experience of ambiguity as well lol.

Yes, you're right. We can tell she's Latina because we see people who look like her in our families and our communities. But she can pass for a white person with dark hair and dark eyes. One of my daughters has dark brown hair, fair skin and freckles. When she went off to college, she was shocked that some people thought she was white, but people in our own community would know right away that she's Mexican American.

💯 and I can speak to that as well, until someone sees my name lol. If I let my hair go natural people always ask me if I am biracial. If I go straight with blonde highlighted hair people have no clue what my background is and never ask or question me.

I'm Mexican too!

I think that’s basically true in a lot of communities. Most lighter skin hispanics want to look more hispanic same for lighter skin blacks. Being Dominican i think colorism was hard. Hair texture as well. Loving your skin. Skin color does not define culture

Girl, your name is Karen .

@@PHlophe what does my name have to do with anything? 🤷‍♀️😵

@ruben champollion ??????

Mestizos can pass in just about any country huh

and if you marry a scandinavian, you snagged gold basically.

But what if they are latino? Just not mexican... Like Puerto Rican or salvadoreño? Does that count?

Exactly. The term ‘Latino’ derives from ‘Latin’- who are the Latin white people of Europe, mainly located in Southern Europe. The term Hispanic is an offshoot of HiSPAINic. All these terms arrived with European colonisers, since that is their origin. However, the origin of indigenous or Afro communities are often ostracised or overlooked within these labels.

@@rogerroger2986 Youre right about all but Latin being a "tribe" in Italy. Latin used to refer to a language spoken by the places occupied by Rome --- which is in no way a tribe, especially if you are arguing that Mesoamericans were not nomadic tribes (which, I agree, many werent). And yes, it did become Vulgar Latin which divulged into the modern languages of Spain, Italy, France, Romania, Sardinia, etc. But today we have use the term Latin as a shortened form of Languages or Cultures that divulged from that Roman offshoot.

@@rogerroger2986 Also, Mesoamericans are native americans. Its like saying a square is a type of rectangle. All mesoamericans (like the square) are native americans (like the rectangle). But not all native americans are meso americans. Just as well, there were many smaller, nomadic tribes that lived in Mesoamerica (and were constantly attacked and pillaged by the bigger civilizations like the Mayans and Aztecs)

@@rogerroger2986 Who said I ignored them...? Youre assuming a lot right now. I dont think we really disagree much overall, but youre putting words in my mouth.

Both are colonial names

You need to stop calling mestizos by pseudo Eurocentric terms such as Latin or Latino or other made up USA crap. At least say Latin American.

@do you like pizza? cuz I want a pizza dat ass Latino is also used to refer to male and female

@do you like pizza? cuz I want a pizza dat ass Then just use Hispanic or Latin, since the language and culture offenses you so much you racist

yes, people should know more about it.

Question Everything it’s very important to understand that it’s not an even playing field, even in 2020. If not these conversations would be of no relevance. There’s systemic racism in more forms than just being able to ride a bus. That does not cover any type of ground and isn’t even near the top of the iceberg.

Lmaoo he deleted the ignorant comment and now it looks like I’m talking to myself 💀 at least I got my point across.

What is "weda"

@@apollo5418 slang for white girl

@@apollo5418 I think she means guera

@@lisaromero5581 se escribe “guera”