So much of this has come to fruition in just 8 years.

Brilliant. I thank God for this insightful, clear analysis of why western countries are in a state of decline. In judgement, may God show mercy for His glory.

Our fight is not with flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12

Thanks Ligonier for this message and all Praise and Glory to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Thanks for introducing me to this wonderful man.

The closing two minutes is powerful. The emotion in Dr. Jones' voice and the power of God's Word hits me hard as he reads those scriptures about Nebuchadnezzar. It's what we need and God promises it will happen.

You don’t have to be a scholar to see that what he says is true . People can no longer hear or see truth.

Amen! For this reason also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow , of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. -Philippians 2:9‭-‬11

Seriously prophetic, he was spot on

I thank God for Peter Jones who does not fear but have the courage to spread the good news and calling the pagans wrong. Amen stop the negative and promote the truth 🙏

Jesus Christ did not burn any books or put people to death. Jesus Christ was not a church or a religion or a state. Thank God for Jesus Christ.

God bless you for such insightful message. Relevant and timely!

At 58:32 love how his voice cracks when mentioning God the Father, shows his true color in his Love for the True One Triune God, shows his passion for The LORD of Lords. As a man I’m not afraid to admit, it brought tears to my eyes.

Great truth. Thank you Mr. Jones for sharing your knowledge sir.

“This message from our 2010 west coast conference…” 2010!!!!!!!! And here we are.

I had to listen to this repeatedly and repeatedly to understand it, but the depths of the message and the truth of the present age are exposed to the extreme level here.

Peter Jones always gives an amazing wealth of information. It is especially amazing as I see how it aligns with recent history and current world events. God bless him for using his intellect for the Kingdom of God!

It is amazing to hear this 13 years later.

I was listening and am glad that he ended the talk with an encouraging note; indeed, our Creator God is triumphant over all other . . . Idealogies.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despite wisdom and instructions.

Seek the kingdom of the Most High first and all will be answered 🙏

Charismatic movement ain't far from Gnosticism btw.

The Lucius Trust also has its fingers in some unlikely places. I subscribed to a vegan-oriented podcast a few years back and soon found out that the host worked for the Lucius Trust.

This was an excellent presentation, thank you Dr. Jones!

I cant believe this is from 7 years ago

Every sovereign unique person is a Creation of One True GOD

The Gospel: Christ died for our sins and rose again. (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

A link to the talk at the Family Research Council would be helpful: a search of their channel didn't find it.

Gnosticism is the elaboration and reiteration of the Lie told to Eve in Eden: "You shall be as God"

Does anyone have a link to his chat at the Family Research Council?

This man knew what was coming.

Which christian doctrine do you suppose Jesus would ascribe to if he came back today? My guess is it would be none. I believe he would chastise all of them like the he did the money changers and start a better one than any concurrently existing. I'm pretty sure he was big on love of god to redeem men of sin however it seems to me most so-called christians today are more into hating other christians and nonchristians alike. The more things change the more they stay the same you know. However that just what a sane person might say.

It was a very good presentation. I wish he would have also encouraged us to pray for all those who are caught up in heretical thinking and practices. Did not the Apostle Paul tell us that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against the spiritual forces of darkness? We’re not any better than those who have been entrapped by the Enemy to think heretically. What if you and I were also entrapped like them, wouldn’t you want to know if what you believe is true, wouldn’t you want someone to be praying for you to escape the lie? I know I would, and I thank God that someone did pray for me to escape the darkness I was in. It is a spiritual battle, let us not forget this. Let us not think more highly of ourselves than we ought.

AMAZING presentation

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Elaine Pagels wrote a fascinating dissertation on the gnostic Paul, presenting both sides of the issue, without coming to any definitive conclusion. She is a popular speaker at numerous churches.

2 thess 2: 5-12...those who do not love the truth will be given over.....by God... to a deluding influence so they might believe what is false.

And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock[a] I will build my church, and the gates of hell[b] shall not prevail against it. Perhaps the rebirth of the gnostics is the rebirth of the church.

Boy are you going to be surprised when the truth comes out.

God [is] Spirit (Jn 4:24). This is the core of gnosticism.

every church i go to talks about gnosticism

The hippy's are now in the White House

“It is spirit and flesh, but at the same time espouses the whole of reality” ☯️

29:17 sounds really great actually lol

As an issue of survival modern syncretism must discount the biblical theology of redemption. The "Word" becoming flesh and dwelling among us (John 1:14) means death to any Gnostic worldview.

Big if true.

Very important message.

I’m a Christian and no matter what side your on or what believes you have this idea is scary

34:30 I've become all things for the sake of the good news.

What a charismatic intelligent man. I am no Christian but I have a soft spot for intelligence.

Gnosticism reminds me of the feet of iron and clay described in Daniel.

Excellent!!!

There is no gnostic gospel. There were several forms of Christianity before the Canon was settled

Came here curious about Gnosticism. So i have just one question, who is god? are we god? is it the Christian or Muslim god?

21:24 did not Yahweh war against other gods? Did not this concept come back into Christianity with Constantine?

Beware of Michael Heiser books. Heiser’s Hermeneutic The root cause of the issue with Heiser’s theology is his interpretation method, which errs on multiple levels. First, he interprets Scripture in light of pagan literature to interject polytheism into the Bible. As Peter Jones suggested of Gnosticism, “Whenever ‘Christian’ theology looks to pagan polytheism for inspiration-as it is doing now and as it did then-it discovers a titillating variety of reading techniques, without which the Scriptures of the one, true God would be strictly unusable.”2) Indeed, this hermeneutic method reigns supreme in Heiser’s writings. One critic of Heiser has similarly commented, “Heiser has a bad hermeneutical methodology because he has a bad hermeneutic philosophy. This bad philosophy has led him to bad conclusions. There have always been Christians who have tried to come up with some unique and revolutionary interpretations. Heiser is not the first to come up with this notion of a council of gods. You can see this in Gnosticism, and Marcionism, and in other adaptations of basic Christian doctrines. I’m sure he won’t be the last.”3) Heiser responded to Howe’s criticism, stating, “I assume that the Scripture writers were communicating to people intentionally - people that lived in their day and who shared their same worldview. This assumption is in place because I’m sensitive to imposing a foreign worldview on the writers.”4) In other words, he admits his hermeneutics is focused on imposing the pagan worldview on the Biblical authors, even though the Bible itself commanded the Israelites to not enquire into the theology of their pagan neighbors (Deuteronomy 12:29-32), and to destroy any Israelite guilty of doing so (Deuteronomy 13:6-18). One simple example of this is Heiser’s discussion of pagan deities were known to inhabit gardens and mountains which he formulates an entire theology revolving around this concept imported on the Bible.5) However, the Bible condemns this pagan practice as idolatry on “high places” (Leviticus 26:30; Numbers 22:41; 33:52; Deuteronomy 12:2; 33:29; 1 Kings 3:2; 12:31-32; 13:32-33; 15:14; 22:43; 2 Kings 12:3; 14:4; 15:4, 33; 16:4; 17:11, 32; 21:3; 23:5; Psalm 78:58; Jeremiah 7:31; 19:5; 32:25; 48:35) and “groves” (Exodus 34:13; Deuteronomy 7:5; 12:3; Judges 3:7; 1 Kings 14:15; 18:19; 2 Kings 18:4; 23:14; Isaiah 17:8; 27:9) with idols under “every green tree” (Deuteronomy 12:2; 1 Kings 14:23; 2 Kings 16:4; 17:10; Isaiah 57:5; Jeremiah 2:20; 3:6, 13: Ezekiel 6:13). God rebukes this idolatry that Heiser thinks is valid biblical theology, “your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the Lord, which have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed me upon the hills” (Isaiah 65:7). Where is the logic of building a “biblical theology” by imposing pagan practices which are specifically condemned in the Bible? One of his foolish arguments for allegorizing his mountain opinion is presented in his citing of Psalm 48:1-2, stating, “As anyone who has been to Jerusalem knows, Mount Zion isn’t much of a mountain. It certainly isn’t located in the geographical north-its actually in the southern part of the country.”6) Mount Zion is on the north of the city Zion, also called Jerusalem (2 Chronicles 5:2; Psalm 135:21; 147:12; Isaiah 10:32; 30:19). He contends, “This description would be a familiar one to Israel’s pagan neighbors, particularly at Ugarit. Its actually out of their literature.”7) Another problem with Heiser’s hermeneutic is he focuses on ambiguous text, plays fast and loose with the Hebrew language whenever he can, and when he cannot twist an interpretation of the existing grammar to fit his presupposition, he becomes the textual critic and changes the text itself or uses a different text to justify his position. Other Christian apologists have complained about Heiser’s handling of the text

56:55 you said it right, that you know. The eucharist is the oldest sacrament of earth. We are not the first to be promised eternal life.

30:50 look how great moving away from shamanism has served us. Moses was our great shaman.

This needs to be shown in theatres .

43:35 Zoraster actually started dualism that you rely on for your gospel...

If he knew them what is happening now

Why did'nt he pulled out qoutes from the word of GOD? he only qouted the "gospel" of Thomas

14:24 and I think that I have the Holy Spirit. Sounds like Paul believed in universal truth

When he describes the church having "faced the heresy of Gnosticism and defeated it"... he means the plethora of men, women, and children who were slaughtered in the Albigensian Crusade... from which we get the modern phrase "kill them all, let God sort them out" from the historical utterance of a Catholic Crusader murdering gnostic Christians (cathars), when another Catholic remarked that their arrow volleys would hit Catholics as well as Cathars... "kill them all, God will know his own".

Speaking of gnosticism, a good correlation is Voddie Baucham's message on Gnostic racism. "You can't know about being X if you're not X, therefore you can't have anything to say." Kind of like the idea you can't talk about women's issues unless you're a woman (but what is a woman anyway?). Knowing these things is a secret known only to the initiates of the condition. Great insight into the BLM/race-baiting of things.

what about the Rosicrucian's Assembly..

The true Christ said: " I and the Father are One." No Duality there.

The "Lord´s Recovery" or "Local Church" teaches it's dangerous to read the Word of God directly. They say you will misunderstand it, so you need a qualified teacher´s interpretation. They promote only one teacher, exclusively, i.e: Witness Lee. They say he was God´s appointed minister of the age, like a "Noah" for today, and that he interpreted the whole Bible accurately and apart from him and his ministry you cannot really understand the Bible.

47:32 it's the original Babylonian story actually...

19:21 marcion gnostics. Sethian.

12:34 how can we talk of our God without being universal? Isn't it ironic you say the gnostics are wrong on this?

11:19 it can be easily said that Orthodoxy took the male cult path of mithras.

20:40 It's not that radical if women were the rulers of matriarchal societies in 9000 BC. It would be radical if it was something new under the sun. But it isn't.

Carl yung communed with demon spirits

You claim the gnostics are wrong. Because you know the truth therefore you are the definition of gnostic.

Fallen fallen is Babylon the great!

Gnosticism is just a word used to describe the collection of denominations that are unknown that belong to the texts found in places like the Nag Hammadi library. Nothing more, nothing less. Any attempt to say otherwise is an attempt at misinforming and brainwashing by conflating the information. It would have been really wonderful if Peter Jones did take the time to make the distinction clear before speaking publicly and openly about it. Instead of hastily misrepresenting the group of texts as though it were one sect of thought.

25:38 returning to the equality of humanity before the male dessert cult of Yah won out lol

Father God, thank you for siding with me against injustice and plain out lies about where true power comes from and resides! Praise you God for nobody like you has the might over light and darkness, over angels and demons, over earth and universe, over heaven and hell. Thank you for reserving a place for me in heaven, let bring more people in! In accordance with this word and 1 john 4:3, hebrews 5:14, 2 corinthians 6:14-18 I bind to hell every divine spark in my life, the lives of my family, friends, colleagues, neighbours, acquintances, opponents and the body of Christ and binding to hell uniting opposite spiritualities and the idea of christ consciousness, binding to hell every unequal yoke and common share with those believing a lie about the existence of the divine spark, those not discerning between opposite spiritualities and those believing in christ consciousness, in the name and blood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah!

This video has inspired me even more to get into Gnosticism, what great insight this man has. Thank you.

Yes the Bishop of Los Angeles Stephen Hoeller and the church in their locations are great. And Stephen is about the best and most honored person I have ever watched or listened to on the internet. He is a great man, with insights that I share. Sure hope your views are in favor of gnostic truth after your readings, but no idea, but do hope you come to know the deepest truth. And if needed, reconsider your religious doctrine. Be well Peter Jones. All is great

"Split a piece of wood and you will find me..." Oh, bother... Who remembers the movie "Stigmata" that came out in the late 90's I think? The message in that horrendous piece of work was the assertion that this gospel of Thomas (which I don't believe was ever actually named) is a new revelation from God superseding all the rest. The writer of the movie was so intent on making that point that the main character who was to bring this announcement to the masses was given the signs of the stigmata in an attempt to verify her claim. What is SO difficult and frustrating in the ministry today is that we are up against Hollywood that proclaims fiction as if it were fact on the big screen, and in such dramatic ways that it convinces those who just don't know any better, and then we come in on Sunday morning in our suits and try to undo all that the enemy has done to the kids who have just barely managed to show up. So many kids don't WANT to know the truth; that's the attitude that I'm seeing today, and I honestly don't know what to do with that.

42:38 I agree with much of what Peter says but he & the rest of the Church really gotta wrestle with the inerrancy claims as so dogmatic, it makes Christianity seriously look like just another magic book...may want to read some of Jesus on what is Word big W is...John 1 & John 5:39...Jesus is the Word, the Bible by its own interpretation without presuppositions is a testimony too that...

Interesting... I think he gets some things right, but I'm also a bit skeptical of his attempt to put Everything (bad) under the gnostic label... In my study of it, it seems a bit more niche than that... And a few of his points are contradictory... He links Masonic ideas/practice to this 'new' thing coming out in the 60's? Sorry mate, but Masonic practice/lodges/popularity has been around for a long time and wasn't hiding under the surface until late 20th century... I always heard that its heydey was in the colonial / early America times! Far more out in the open than now - Now it's kind of dead / bygone thing. So this kind of historical revisionism gives me pause on some of this other claims and assertions... this is cultural-war comfort food for right-leaning, white american protestant evangelicals who drink up this kind of thing, so they don't ever have to self-examine themselves for any heresies or wacky theology, ideology or warped Biblical interpretations - which they/we too have by the spades! - including aspects of a kind of soft, Gnosticism!)

This man is confused. Gnosticism is very dualistic.

Those who believe in everything are actually believing in nothing. ( in this case it is believing in things that are not real or true).

"For as the lightning comes from the east and shines even unto the west so shall the coming of the Son of Man be " ( Mathew 24:27 ) The "LIGHTNING" = the "LIGHT" (Truth) of the gospel (good news) OF (from) Christ (Jesus)... The "EAST" = a little town in EGYPT called NAG HAMMADI, and the "Gnostic Gospels".... The "WEST" = the western world, and namely the USA who is "ISRAEL" ( Ephraim )... The "SON OF MAN" - a Divine Title that tells us WHO WE ARE "In Christ"....a PERFECT "MAN" .

well this was a trip, he exists in opposition so much that he will never get anything done. jesus did not speak in such terms the truth is the truth

Just look at the world, and one will know who created this realm, this is so clear.

The fact that you are so desperate to refute it give it credibility!

He could have made this much easier to understand by showing us the cork board with all of the red strings on it. Seriously though, R.C. Sproul has some sophistication (most of the time) this guy is just serving up some goofy culture war fodder.

this is what is wrong with PHD,s in any spiritual matters they don't get it and trying to teach on something they don't understand if they did. would they know that gnostic texts say not just the same as the bible on christ but expound on this certainly not pagan teaching or belief. also this person is saying that if you believe any Gnostic texts that its like agreeing with homosexuals beliefs. this guy is very scary and cant even say that god is father without his voice cracking

Grouping all Gnosticism into Hermetic Gnosticism, which is what he has done here, is like talking about all flavors of Christianity (Baptists, Penticostal, Methodists and even the Mormans) and packaging it all into a lecture about "Those Orthodox Catholics." This is intellectually and spiritually dishonest. For example, The Cathars who lived peacefully and actually tried lived what Jesus taught where better Christians than most Judeo-Christians today....Judeo-Christianity is a house divided. Marcion was right. Are you Christian or Judeo-Christian? BIG DIFFERENCE.

You are a classic example of a human being who is divided. And that is what Jesus proclaims in the Gospel of Thomas is the flaw in this world.

You are praying to the wrong God

No one is coming for you

Sorry to tell you but Gnosticism was never stamped out or eliminated. Yes the Romans, and Catholics wiped out perhaps over a million of true Christians throughout the centuries since the Council of Nicaea and Constantine. Not sure where this video is going, but Gnostic Truth and The Nag Hammadi are both quite real, and can assist one in gaining true gnosis, and reach a level of ascension much as Christ himself. Wish this Peter all the best.

What's wrong about acknowledging Mother Earth?

We are each called upon to have a unique personal experience with God. Not by thinking about it or talking about it but by wholeheartedly doing it. Be still and know that I am god is the map to the I AM. Personal revelations are to guide the spiritual growth of the person. We each choose our lesson plan on the road to spiritual growth. I personally know my brother/teacher Jesus. His message during his sojourn here was that we are all children of God/family. An infant learns what a family is based on experience. We will not comprehend many of the teachings of the Master until we bebin to treat each other as family. To learn the teachings of the Master we should first comprehend the ancient teachings of Thoth whom The GOD JESUS sent ahead of his incarnation on this planet to bring the spiritual knowledge and truths that Jesus learned as a child and youth residing near Alexandria in Egypt. If yHRIST). Material life is about learning and growing according to the plan that we choose prior to enrolling in the academy of spiritual awakening or retracement. What is your direction?.

Yahweh is clearly seen in the Old Testament as killing and canceling all other gods. If Sophia is now mounting a challenge to Yahweh, oh well, who are we insignificant immortals. Let the games begin and may the most vicious and most powerful win. Like minions, humans might follow the true hero or heroine who emerges. 🍿

Only Believers , you are confused , misleading