Peter Sagan - New handlebar tape

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9 жыл бұрын

Peter Sagan - New handlebar tape

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@kevinthomson6324
@kevinthomson6324 3 жыл бұрын
I get the impression he’s done this a few times before. Takes me 3-5 tries to get around the hoods right. He does it in one go and doesn’t even look back.
@joelyons886
@joelyons886 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 probably 'cause he's got 10 more bikes to do before lunch!
@laureanolopezacosta3543
@laureanolopezacosta3543 Жыл бұрын
@@joelyons886 The only downside is that it has been turned upside down.
@sallom432
@sallom432 8 жыл бұрын
"it's not the engine, it's the driver".... "it's not the handlebar tape, it's the mechanic"
@TheWeekendCyclist
@TheWeekendCyclist 2 жыл бұрын
His wrapping skill is faster than my unwrapping skill.
@markg0410
@markg0410 5 жыл бұрын
I have to say that, of all his different bikes over the year, this paint scheme was my favorite by far.
@jimboyle1967
@jimboyle1967 8 жыл бұрын
Poetry in motion. Top mechanic!
@theemperor2017
@theemperor2017 3 жыл бұрын
Well said👌🏿
@weeringjohnny
@weeringjohnny 3 жыл бұрын
It takes me about an hour and a half to tape my bars and it still looks rubbish. That Tinkoff guy couldn't just drop in to my garage for five minutes, could he?
@b1blancer1
@b1blancer1 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I supposed it depends upon when you want him to be there and how much money you have!
@matteuspocus
@matteuspocus Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@johnr2866
@johnr2866 7 ай бұрын
I swear that is the same thing I was thinking I thought the video was in a faster rate here at the bar is faster than I was able to unpack the bar tape from its package
@robinheil
@robinheil 9 жыл бұрын
This is very satisfying to watch.
@MatthewAvery42
@MatthewAvery42 8 жыл бұрын
1:20 "Dude I guarantee that's Tinder. Tinder for sure."
@NickDoyle
@NickDoyle 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew Avery he is talking about the bar tape wrap job it's so damn sexy it immediately got 10 matches
@jb6879
@jb6879 6 жыл бұрын
unless your an obsessive maniac like me.. then it takes forever while I second guess myself the whole way..
@TayyarePilotuOfficial
@TayyarePilotuOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
I think second guy's girlfriend was send a screenshot with heart notification on top and he ask to his friend what that notification is. Few months ago ı was entered same situation and ask in reddit. İt was scary. By the way after scary three day ı was learn what that is; it was just relationship meter app.
@forefatherofmankind3305
@forefatherofmankind3305 3 жыл бұрын
@@TayyarePilotuOfficial Good English 👍
@briantruck2284
@briantruck2284 2 жыл бұрын
😆
@SpicyJax3000
@SpicyJax3000 7 жыл бұрын
this means it will take me 30 mins each side to install my supacaz tonight lol
@tahoekayaker
@tahoekayaker 8 ай бұрын
According to Calvin Jones at Park Tools, the wrap on the RH side should be wrapped in a clockwise direction from riders point of view, and counter clockwise on LH side. The Park tools video gives step by step instruction.
@redauwg911
@redauwg911 8 ай бұрын
I think I'll Trust this mechanic
@poxcr
@poxcr 4 ай бұрын
I don't think Calvin Jones wraps 10 bikes a day. This is how a PRO mechanic wraps the bar tape for a PRO rider, just stick to the proper tried and true method.
@tahoekayaker
@tahoekayaker 4 ай бұрын
@@poxcr I’ve wrapped mine in both directions and they both work, and look great. The figure of eight isn’t necessary when wrapping like the pros, so probably the preferred method for getting the wrap done quickly.
@patnumber1nutter
@patnumber1nutter 7 күн бұрын
Yeah on the drops it should be wound the other way as tendency is to pull-down and outside on the drops, which will gradually loosen the wraps 😳, but then if he’s changing the tape on a regular basis it prob doesn’t matter that much.
@cup_and_cone
@cup_and_cone 9 жыл бұрын
This mechanic knows what's up: Uses a leather punch for the remote shifter, not scissors.
@TheZiPProject
@TheZiPProject 8 жыл бұрын
thechosendude When i saw that, i felt a rush of pure excitement
@kreed1004
@kreed1004 7 жыл бұрын
i almost covfefe'd
@DiegoRevs
@DiegoRevs 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@ivanboesky1520
@ivanboesky1520 6 жыл бұрын
thechosendude d
@Ed-lz4jv
@Ed-lz4jv 6 жыл бұрын
Did you get a hard-on when he did it?????
@DBRising
@DBRising Жыл бұрын
Love how he uses the hole puncher for the sprinter switches.
@poly_hexamethyl
@poly_hexamethyl 10 ай бұрын
It's nice to watch someone experienced who can do this so fast. It takes me several times as long and I still don't get it as neat. Envy!
@chrisbaskind92
@chrisbaskind92 8 жыл бұрын
Really doesn't matter if you wrap inside out or vice-versa: It's a pro bike. With that base wrap, the top layer is going nowhere anytime soon, and it will probably be re-wrapped before the next race.
@dfwnick5309
@dfwnick5309 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work !
@fabiolucano5800
@fabiolucano5800 4 жыл бұрын
That was amazing to watch. Very nice work.
@georgegilles9008
@georgegilles9008 9 жыл бұрын
That is one beautiful bar tape.
@thacrackfox
@thacrackfox 8 жыл бұрын
I did this last night with the exact same tape and absolutely bollocksed it up.
@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial
@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial 7 жыл бұрын
Another reason to use Fizik bar tape. Absolutely no issues when reusing it... Doesn't tear, doesn't leave residue, awesome.
@chrisyanda8884
@chrisyanda8884 7 жыл бұрын
PROcrastiDRIVE SV fizik tape is garbage, It wraps like shit. Bar tape is one time use, who gives a shit if it rips when you take off. SUPACAZ makes good tape. Not the best but better than fizik. Good cushion, decent stretch and doesn't stay wet like fizik.
@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial
@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial 7 жыл бұрын
lol, I have had literally none of the issues you are talking about with Fizik bar tape. Which specific type are you using? I'm talking about "Fizik superlight classic" bar tape. Also, there are plenty of times where reusing bartape is acceptable. Like when you're just swapping bars or correcting a mistake when you initially wrap the stuff. It helps when it just peels off rather than tear off in chunks :) Never heard of SUPACAZ before... where do you buy it online?
@thacrackfox
@thacrackfox 7 жыл бұрын
+PROcrastiDRIVE SV Peter Sagan uses supacaz. For the record the wrap issues I mentioned were my own fault lol. I had 3 sets of this tape and ran it for a while. It's more of a smooth sticky feel. I personally prefer textured wraps. I'm running cadence right now. It's Simliar to most fizik wrap I see. They're all good wraps. Just personal preference.
@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial
@PROcrastiDRIVESVofficial 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I feel stupid because I just realised the weed theme for that supacaz bar tape. That probably explains why it's sticky
@enduroelite
@enduroelite 4 жыл бұрын
nice to know that I wrap my bars like this guy.
@andrewkim6192
@andrewkim6192 8 жыл бұрын
I wish that I had that skill of wrapping bar tape fast and correctly
@MarioCastiello
@MarioCastiello 7 жыл бұрын
perfect practice makes perfect - keep watching - keep trying
@melihakdogan
@melihakdogan 5 жыл бұрын
you just need practice. i have a bike shop and wrap too many everyday. it should not be perfect symetric, just warp it, it is fine.
@josh33172
@josh33172 4 жыл бұрын
Except he didn't. I mean there's different philosophies, and ultimately its up to the rider, but generally when you come out of the figure 8, the tape is suppose to be wrapping in the direction of the front wheel not back to the saddle. But there's two things to consider....rider preference, and the fact that this tape doesn't even get close to being worn out or stretched before it's replaced.
@Supacaz
@Supacaz 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thats our neon print Super Sticky Kush Tape
@ChuckD59
@ChuckD59 7 жыл бұрын
And you too can have it punters, just bend over!
@billyshea2405
@billyshea2405 6 жыл бұрын
just got your glow tape for my tcr
@fjoa123
@fjoa123 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought mine but im scared shitless to install it!
@christiansmyth1466
@christiansmyth1466 2 жыл бұрын
Bike mechanic with about a $6,000 Tag Heuer Carrera Chronograph. Wow.
@floydwilliams8595
@floydwilliams8595 2 жыл бұрын
Lord Sagan likes it in reverse, I like how he did the bar end start full wrap besides stuffing it in the bar end.
@hoizkiacha
@hoizkiacha 9 ай бұрын
Right side of the handlebar - you (always) do it counterclockwise! (And on the left side - clockwise.)
@Inhumase
@Inhumase 8 жыл бұрын
This is awesome
@weebig
@weebig 4 жыл бұрын
Why was this so satisfying to watch
@StefanBerhaneDeJonghe
@StefanBerhaneDeJonghe 8 жыл бұрын
the only reason for tinkoff uploading bartape vids repeatedly is bc of how satisfying it looks 😍😍😍
@MrGivmedew
@MrGivmedew 7 жыл бұрын
YEP because the way you moved it around when he went around the brake handles is EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED!!!! or no no that is NOT what I needed!!!
@user-hp3cm6qm9q
@user-hp3cm6qm9q 6 жыл бұрын
プロの仕事ですね
@chinmayamishra5947
@chinmayamishra5947 2 жыл бұрын
Perfection at its best
@TraumaER
@TraumaER 2 жыл бұрын
For those unaware, most bikers take up to an hour to do the same task. 🤯
@quepasatony123
@quepasatony123 4 жыл бұрын
The technique he uses only works with symmetrical bar tape. Any asymmetric tape appears different on upper bar and drop when wrapped like this.
@K-G-S_66
@K-G-S_66 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using same handle bar tap until it worn out didn't had enough money So thx to utube videos I used my old tire tube and it worked just fine
@fernandeomartinez6065
@fernandeomartinez6065 8 жыл бұрын
thank you sir
@Darek80
@Darek80 6 жыл бұрын
Good skill. How often do you replace the tape for pro rides?
@LeoInterHyenaem
@LeoInterHyenaem 3 жыл бұрын
It's a Supacaz bar tape. I have one (teal) wrapped on My Salsa WarBird handlebar. It's quite attractive (if a bit overpriced), but not as much as some (I prefer Fabric and Lizard Skin). Also, it's extremely fragile: My sticky (a result of washing) gloves peeled of the surface layer in absolutely no time. I do, however, like the look of the metallic purple Supacaz headset cap I have on two of My bikes.
@StefanBerhaneDeJonghe
@StefanBerhaneDeJonghe 8 жыл бұрын
appreciate that this mechanic had a hole puncher. annoys me when they just stab a hole or go around it
@marko6706
@marko6706 5 жыл бұрын
perfect job
@MrLeovdmeer
@MrLeovdmeer Жыл бұрын
Pro at work.
@user-on2kl4ri9d
@user-on2kl4ri9d 2 жыл бұрын
とても素早くて綺麗に仕上がってますね!流石です(๑•̀ㅁ•́ฅ✨
@AluminumBird
@AluminumBird 8 жыл бұрын
Wow you've wrapped a few bars in your day. Very sure hands.
@amaroudis
@amaroudis 7 жыл бұрын
Just like wrapping a tennis racquet handle.
@user-qh8sl7to8w
@user-qh8sl7to8w 6 жыл бұрын
레버옆 버튼을 누르시면 페달이 자동으로 페달이 돌아갑니다 수동으로
@schuey999
@schuey999 6 жыл бұрын
If only everyone did their jobs with such precision.
@BIGDO13
@BIGDO13 8 жыл бұрын
bar end plugs that can be tightened via an allen key? Oh yeah... that's wassup...
@mzvarik
@mzvarik 7 жыл бұрын
yep, I bought Lizard Skins and they don't have it... poor, will never buy again
@ketjuariittaa
@ketjuariittaa 7 жыл бұрын
Martin Zvarík But they have 3,2mm ☝🏻👍🏻
@mzvarik
@mzvarik 7 жыл бұрын
Bicycle sunday I had them in 3,2mm and they couldn't be tightened via allen key (I also lost one end plug in like a week, very poor quality), plus they were NOT COMFORTABLE compared to the originals once I had on Specialized Tarmac Compact... they felt like plastic... rain weather also bad... too expensive... they are HYPED as hell, don't understand the positive reviews
@alfredo7956
@alfredo7956 4 жыл бұрын
Too heavy, simple ultra light caps
@istvangalambos3897
@istvangalambos3897 4 жыл бұрын
Omgosh, seems he's doin it first time! And no Beer before taping??!! It can only be wrong! 😉
@krugz_
@krugz_ 2 жыл бұрын
shit took me 1 hour each side and this man finished under 5 minutes
@AntoineMorinPrevost91
@AntoineMorinPrevost91 6 жыл бұрын
He's put sticky face up electrical tape before the wrapping so it sticks good.
@skinny55772
@skinny55772 8 жыл бұрын
I like to think that tape no longer squeaks and they make the noise themselves from now on.
@NickDoyle
@NickDoyle 7 жыл бұрын
skinny55772 correct that's why they never show the guys mouth. many pro mechanics do it, it's their efficient yet mysterious hive language
@AdrianoBiLL
@AdrianoBiLL 3 жыл бұрын
Valeu a dica muito boa
@dominik78kinimod
@dominik78kinimod 5 жыл бұрын
Right side - start counterclockwise???
@johncarlodiaz3829
@johncarlodiaz3829 3 жыл бұрын
reversed
@urielguerrero2209
@urielguerrero2209 7 жыл бұрын
hermoso trabajo
@Ffish69
@Ffish69 9 жыл бұрын
That's expertly done - chapeau! Although I always thought you should wrap from the inside outwards? In other words the opposite way to the way he's just done it?
@willwhite1987
@willwhite1987 9 жыл бұрын
Andrew Pike Indeed, so that holding the handlebars would actually tend to tighten the tape. Maybe this tape is so good that you don't even need to pay attention to that detail.
@lucash41
@lucash41 9 жыл бұрын
wiwh I doubt it's the tape. They probably just wrap it so often with fresh tape that there is no need to worry about the long term wear and tear of it.
@Bartooc
@Bartooc 6 жыл бұрын
It depends on the rider's preference, most people prefere it as you described. But some like it this way.
@unoyoudidnt
@unoyoudidnt 3 жыл бұрын
The guy at park tool said to wrap the drops in the direction of the force that the wrists tend to rotate, right side clock wise left side counter clock wise when facing in the direction of the front wheel. does Peter Sagan tend to rotate his wrist inwards on the drops?
@sebastianukasik8556
@sebastianukasik8556 9 жыл бұрын
Good Job
@scottwilson1895
@scottwilson1895 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on bar roll for a gravel bike . I'm getting numb hands/fingers and I'm sure it due to bar roll
@sulispujiantoro3216
@sulispujiantoro3216 3 жыл бұрын
Terasa mimpi punya sepeda seperti kepunyaan Peter Sagan
@TheraPi
@TheraPi 7 жыл бұрын
wrong direction at the botton
@sbullar
@sbullar 7 жыл бұрын
another pro mechanic that wraps to the inside of the bars, ( several video's on here that do that ). Your hands twist to the outside when in the drops and to the front wheel when the hands are on top. To wrap any other way you are going against the grain so to speak, more of a chance of unraveling. With the modern quality sticky tapes if you do a good tight wrap you probably are not going to unravel no matter which way you go, but correct is correct.
@CodyWBrown
@CodyWBrown 7 жыл бұрын
The theory here, especially on a sprinter's bike, is that he's actually pulling on the bars when in the drops. I prefer to wrap this way and I never see my tape or any of my customers' tape come unraveled.
@sbullar
@sbullar 7 жыл бұрын
Cody: Yes you may be pulling on the bars when sprinting or out of the saddle but your fingers are still wrapped around the bars from the outside going around to the inside. When you pull or apply pressure your elbows are out and your fingers are tightening to the inside. At least mine seem to be doing this but i admit i'm no expert, as i said if you do a good tight wrap either way it probably will never come unwrapped.
@CodyWBrown
@CodyWBrown 7 жыл бұрын
Another reason I wrap this way is that I could never get it just right at the lever clamp when wrapping outside-->in. I'd end up with a lot of bulk at the clamp or have to resort to using the cheater strips. At the end of the day as long as it looks good and stays put, everyone's happy. Cheers.
@countspokeula539
@countspokeula539 6 жыл бұрын
Steve Bullard My hands twist inwards in the drops and backwards on the tops...
@paradox963
@paradox963 6 жыл бұрын
That is a common misperception in the proper way to wrap bar tape, this video is done correctly. The issue is do you want the tape to tighten or loosen in high stress situations. If you are just riding casually on the drops or the tops of the bar then you are correct that you would be twisting the tape looser not tighter but you are not doing so with enough force to unwrap the tape. However when sprinting hard in the drops you are rocking and pulling the bike side to side and will actually be tightening the tape and same for hard climbing efforts most riders are not leaning on the tops but pulling on the tops again twisting the tape tighter.
@MrPhotodoc
@MrPhotodoc 2 жыл бұрын
Ooops! I always thought the right side should be wound clockwise.
@ValentinDumitru
@ValentinDumitru 2 жыл бұрын
A regular mortal will start twisting his hands to the outside when riding on the drops, whereas a pro really twists inside in those hard push moments. Thinking you are a mortal, clockwise on the right side is perfect for you. And for me. :)
@death2pc
@death2pc 5 жыл бұрын
My life is now complete..................................
@hellasducatisti8696
@hellasducatisti8696 5 жыл бұрын
Supakaz...+1 in comfort
@filmonmesele2784
@filmonmesele2784 3 жыл бұрын
Love it 😊
@mauricioluisvega8342
@mauricioluisvega8342 4 жыл бұрын
tag Heuger! the technical? wow...have you any vacant to work there?
@combatwombat71
@combatwombat71 2 жыл бұрын
Intrigued why he starts at the plug end and finishes on the top. The factory applied tape on my bars goes from the top, self-trapping itself (no electrical tape required) and runs to the bar end plugs where the plugs retain the end.
@carlosfigueroa847
@carlosfigueroa847 2 жыл бұрын
Because then the leading edge would be on the side closest to you, all the way down the bar. This means that your natural grip will cause the edges to curl up. Fine if you don't ride a lot or you replace it every few months.
@khadimhussainimran7001
@khadimhussainimran7001 3 жыл бұрын
Marvelous.
@aaronkeogh
@aaronkeogh 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that ginger can wrap
@deadeiu
@deadeiu Жыл бұрын
早くて無駄がない
@TehPwnererer89
@TehPwnererer89 3 жыл бұрын
That tape is specially made! That’s not what you get in stores. The adhesive is thicker and the tape design is different too. It also seems longer as well. I wish I could buy THIS tape
@orion7741
@orion7741 2 жыл бұрын
do you realize that you CAN buy the exact same tape right??? you can get it ordered by any bike shop. heck you can even get it directly from the manufacturer online.
@fergusdonaghy3124
@fergusdonaghy3124 Жыл бұрын
Calvin Jones of the Park tool company would have kittens watching this
@Laogai001
@Laogai001 6 жыл бұрын
Where did the electrical tape comes from?
@user-tr4tz2mf4y
@user-tr4tz2mf4y 5 жыл бұрын
perfect
@LeoInterHyenaem
@LeoInterHyenaem 3 жыл бұрын
I can't understand people who choose cylindrical cross-section handlebars to ergonomic, aero flat profile ones. The only advantage of the former is that it can accommodate more accessories like mounts, brackets, lights. The latter is much more comfortable, is more aerodynamic and looks better.
@matteocristini6221
@matteocristini6221 3 жыл бұрын
Aero bars are expensive, at least for us mere mortals
@LeoInterHyenaem
@LeoInterHyenaem 3 жыл бұрын
@@matteocristini6221 I beg to differ. While carbon ergonomic handlebars are ridiculously expensive, so are carbon cylindrical cross-section ones. Alloy ergonomic handlebars cost about the same as their round cross-section counterparts - €40-70 - not cheap, but somewhat affordable. Check out the Vision TriMax alloy ergo handlebars. Or Pros. Or Zipp ones. As for Sagan, of course, Sagan's sponsors can easily afford to give him the most expensive one there are.
@matteocristini6221
@matteocristini6221 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeoInterHyenaem I see your point and respect your opinion, but I mean most people are fine with what comes stock on their bike I guess, or at least I am.
@ryand141
@ryand141 10 ай бұрын
Carbon bars? No thx. Rather have titanium or steel.
@SuperCbode
@SuperCbode 6 жыл бұрын
Der Mechaniker hat einen Aufnäher am rechten Ärmel: "Tinkoff Sport"
@HugoTeixeiraMckoy
@HugoTeixeiraMckoy 9 жыл бұрын
You've got to love that Top Cap !!! #gotmytopcap
@NickDoyle
@NickDoyle 7 жыл бұрын
Hugo Teixeira Mckoy what's it say? something about fit body?
@dskordo
@dskordo 5 жыл бұрын
I guess he's done that once or twice before? ;)
@miksterr
@miksterr 3 жыл бұрын
Second time..... That hour
@Marko74Z
@Marko74Z 8 жыл бұрын
Prceless!
@FrettieFingers
@FrettieFingers Ай бұрын
Tinkoff likes to wrap inward it seems.
@Thomass7586
@Thomass7586 8 жыл бұрын
Crude wrap.
@charlesmiller6281
@charlesmiller6281 6 жыл бұрын
Huh. I always start at the top, so the end plug secures it, no adhesive tape needed at all. Never a problem in 10 years.
@snappyfish
@snappyfish 5 жыл бұрын
And then you flaps are wrong way :)
@dalevincent1375
@dalevincent1375 4 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't Roof a house starting at the top. Or maybe you would!!
@Morelli-Maurizio
@Morelli-Maurizio 8 жыл бұрын
In questo video non è interessante il nastro manubrio di Peter Sagan ma è interessante vedere l'attacco manubrio che usa che è molto strano e particolare fate vedere quello
@ivangabrielpetrogalli6640
@ivangabrielpetrogalli6640 8 жыл бұрын
maurizio sempre a commentare😂
@nazarma
@nazarma 8 жыл бұрын
nice watch
@davyscales7732
@davyscales7732 6 жыл бұрын
Nice bike
@golferchin76
@golferchin76 7 жыл бұрын
These pro riders are to flexible. The cockpit is so aggressive.
@hellasducatisti8696
@hellasducatisti8696 6 жыл бұрын
Big and strong stem !!
@owalay1
@owalay1 2 жыл бұрын
又帥又快
@kindalost2495
@kindalost2495 3 жыл бұрын
Razer on roadbikes? Not a bad idea since they have boost mode.🤔
@justjordan8018
@justjordan8018 4 жыл бұрын
So why did We started taping only half of our bars to reduce weight?
@davidsherry6970
@davidsherry6970 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@RevoltingRudi
@RevoltingRudi 6 жыл бұрын
Dude must get payed very good. his watch looks like a 6k€ chopard mille miglia
@stefanodirector
@stefanodirector 7 жыл бұрын
Supacaz rulez!
@745chanel5
@745chanel5 2 жыл бұрын
Great
@wcrawte1341
@wcrawte1341 3 жыл бұрын
Без изоленты в нашем мире никуда
@bonelessx
@bonelessx 8 жыл бұрын
nice...
@sachincna
@sachincna Жыл бұрын
Is it so simple to Taping the handle bar? 😅
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Жыл бұрын
Drops are wrapped the wrong way but then again I guess they do it every second day so it does not really matter much.
@emrekorkmaz9217
@emrekorkmaz9217 6 жыл бұрын
Gidon gibi gidon ❤️
@gustiedy2805
@gustiedy2805 5 жыл бұрын
woow amazing😨
@andrefcl
@andrefcl 7 жыл бұрын
Is this a compact or ergonomic handlerbar?
@miguel_montenegro
@miguel_montenegro 7 жыл бұрын
None of them, is a traditional bend
@user-tc3ym4bo2n
@user-tc3ym4bo2n 6 жыл бұрын
巻くの早!
@user-so8dl6zh5b
@user-so8dl6zh5b 4 жыл бұрын
それな スパカズ硬くて伸びないから尚更巻きづらい
@user-pe2cy4sg2u
@user-pe2cy4sg2u 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-so8dl6zh5b でもかっこいい
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