Second is pretty big difference in sub-5 sec times ;)

@@zaaap0 true.... but, dragging an additional "8 bags of cement" in your car around the track is not that negligible too...

Tu parles de la bmw qui est un exploit ?

330e isn’t comparable in power nor price

The M340i has a mild hybrid platform

@@jamesmcnaughton3558 that's true, 330e absolutely sweeps the 508pse on all points except for the slightly lower power. (which in real life conditions is actually comparable since the ICE power is similar between them)

@@jamesmcnaughton3558 It is. My 330E Xdrive M Sport Pro is around £56k, the Peugeot is £57k. Both are hybrid, and both weight similar amounts. It is the natural competitor.

Pretty much set up for a fall ,would be the 508 for me even just to piss off the neighbours…🤣🤣🤣

This comparison prove Peugeot is quicker is curves because its has more 200kg and less 20HP. And we never know if the driver know how to push both at their limit. BMW to be pushed to the limit but Peugeot didn't or it deliver more performance in curves with less drama.

50k for Peugeot is financial suicide!

@@TheJbsportstech Nothing wrong with 50k for a Peugeot. All cars will be electric or hybrid in the near future, therefore expensive. This is exactly where all saloons are headed irregardless of brand.

@@vs6300 resale value has entered the chat 🙈

@@vs6300 also you’re forgetting the fact Peugeots are a stain on modern society 😄

@@SF-rs3xm Nonsense. Peugeot is here to stay.

The 508 it's hybrid . In which world hybrids are less expensive then ICE only ?

@@bassboygilo the comment you replied to is talking about looks not price 🤷

compact in terms of accessories. and mb engine.. ^^ but still the lightest of all.

This show is a British show. People with a 7 series have a chauffeur. You can't find a parking space big enough for it, so you need the chauffeur. The 5 series is a big car in the UK.

you live in fantasy land

That's all you have to say? Your vacuous answer simply supports my contention.

@@nicka.papanikolaou9475 hilarious.....the real world shows your delusional thoughts are just that! Go back to playing with unicorns at the bottom of your garden

@@nicka.papanikolaou9475 It does not matter, Bmw has different group customers than Peugeot. We all know when it comes to car racing history you should never exclude French car brands from it.And this comes from a Bmw owner.

BMW handling myth busted.

You're a very brave man.

BMW are so common, Audi too. Not hating on them, they're brilliant cars. I've always preferred the 'alternative' type, hail Peugeot!

Peugeot is really getting there. Not just the looks but also the driving as well as (semi) electrifying. However I'm not sure if this 508 is plug-in which I really hope. Our plug-in hybrid uses very little amount of petrol, even less than a diesel! On paper, yes the BMW 340i is faster than the 508 but where can you do it in real life? Take VW Lupo Petrol vs. Lupo Diesel for example. On paper the Petrol beats the Diesel but in the real life so to say... 30 - 50 mph in FIFTH or SIXTH gear, the torquey Diesel pulls away effortlessly. Point is the 508 is (or can be) faster than 340i where it counts in numerous of real life driving. If this hybrid is a plug-in then I'm all in for this 508. Normally I would like to go for the 340i but this is only tested in racing scenarios rather than real life. For those saying ah ha! 340i should be nicer to sit in and to drive even for general use, I can agree with that but time has changed esp. when fuel prices soaring up and still not enough charging stations around - not to mention having to put up with a long wait while charging. A hybrid sits nicely between fully electric and fully internal combustion and that's why I'm giving the 508 more than just a chance.

The E-Legend?

Lol no, Volkswagen is definitely not more high-end than Peugeot.

the 508 PSE is an hybrid and an hybrid car will save you money , so they are more expensive than regular cars.

Only British people would do that.... it was made on purpose, just to say : "hahahha and the Peugeot is still inferior to the BMW !"..... this is profoundly dishonest.... compare an hybrid to another hybrid ! Actually the Peugeot did quite well during the test ! Impressive car. Sometimes one has to wonder what planet the Brits are...

The days of big V8's, V6's and L6's are coming to an end.

@@vs6300 no they are not :) synthetic fuels are here to save the day.

@@SF-rs3xm Dead on arrival.

But this 508 is a hybrid so it's a lot cheaper to run this car over the BMW 340i. Unless you're stupid enough to brake the car late and hard. We've got a plug-in hybrid and it cost significantly less than any pure internal combustion engines. In no time EVs and hybrids pay itself.

Its poorer round the bends, and cant take make use of its weight advantage to beat the Peugeot round the bends and only wins with a mere one second. Thank God You arent the final authority on which car is better built.

How you know that? In everyday use maybe will be the opposite because you have more comfort and less noise in the Peugeot.

if someone buy it new at the first place

I've owned a 208 GTi where you look over the steering wheel at the dials. A person of average height (or taller) should have no problems seeing the dials - I never did. Most modern Pugs, and all the sporty Pugs, seem designed to appeal to men.

@@adammclaughlin845 I'd probably be OK in the new style Pugs. But my missus is 4'11" on a good day, so probably not for her 8-))...

That's how you think in the UK and I consider it a very dumb attitude. Typical British to be that dumb. From a German.

A BMW like this will depreciate even more, the only 3 series that hold the value are the 320d. No one want a pure petrol 340i because the taxes and petrol consumption. Nowadays people want hybrid models and its misinformation telling BMW is cheaper because its not. This 508 is a top version with top equipment, if you start to put options in the BMW the price will be like 20k more at least. In 5 years the BMW will be less value than this specific Peugeot because its hybrid.

In general, you're paying premium if you want to go pure electric or even hybrid. Take Volvo's T8s for example, they cost significantly more than their pure I.C.E. equivalent. Also MG ZS EV cost lot more than any petrol ZS. Shouldn't matter because if you can properly utilise the electric motor off a EV or hybrid, you'll save a lot more on running cost and the "electrified" car can/will pay itself very quickly.

The Peugeot is a full plug in hybrid. They will always be more expensive than a simple mild hybrid.

That Peugeot is an hybrid, do you realise that ? Hybrids are more costly. Use your brain before posting comments.

What about extra batteries and EQUIPMENT?

@@FEGTTTSDH and low quality🤣

Ah, but the Peugeot is stunning, a great car for a first time effort.

As a Canadian, the 508 is unquestionably more interesting and appealing over the sea of boring BMWs that we have. It would never sell here - people want SUVs - but never in a million years would I take the BMW if I could get a Peugeot. It''s just magnitudes cooler.

@@YearsOfLeadPoisoning Interesting how Peugeot have "value" in Canada. In all of Europe their resale values are useless.

@@YearsOfLeadPoisoning You have no experience with the brand or brand values. Here in the UK Peugeots have been the subject of jokes for years. And for very good reason!

@@SF-rs3xm I don't really care what brand values a car has in the UK. Peugeots are cool. French cars in general are cool. There's almost nothing less cool than a BMW, including the Sunfires we still have kicking around.

@@YearsOfLeadPoisoning you’ve never even driven one 😂. It’s not about brand values, it’s about build quality, engineering, safety, and development process. Peugeot has nothing on the German brands when it comes to this. There is nothing aspirational about a Peugeot.

They are thinking thats a pretty good reason to buy a 508; I agree with them.

@@jacobgreenmanedlion1863 I've had two brand new Peugeots when I was working for a company. They drive just fine but they are built like shit. They don't compare to BMW's, not even close, I'd rather have a Kia. Peugeot asking this kind of money is silly and it shows where I live. People who could only afford Peugeot drove them, and no one else. Now no one drives them.

@@AllAhabNoMoby I live in the US and am not familiar with Peugeots current offerings, but I find it hard to believe they are built worse than a BMW. UAZ Patriots are built better than a BMW for pity’s sake!

@@jacobgreenmanedlion1863 I have never heard of UAZ. In Europe BMW is a premium brand that's only equaled in build quality by Audi and Lexus, and to a slightly lesser degree, Mercedes-Benz. And only if you go really upmarket like Porsche does it get any better at all. American cars are usually built as badly or worse than Peugeot, so perhaps that explains why you feel differently.

@@AllAhabNoMoby I drive a Mercedes; I actually have two; a 16 Vito and a 95 E300 Diesel; i have never had another brand. An UAZ is a Russian SUV about the size of a Land Cruiser Pedal.

If the battery is mounted below the floor, the centre of gravity will be lot lower and with better weight distribution leading to better handling. With that battery mount, you'll not notice the weight difference.

It's a hybrid. It has to be automatic. Imagine this: "OK, I'm changing up to 4th gear and then I'll engage the front electric motor. No the rear one to get the tail out. Damn, I should be in 5th gear by now." No, a computer has to decide all that.

@@richardwilton722 Well they should have a non hybrid or a "mild" hybrid at least that can be a manual, because I hate diesels nearly as much as automatics - if not, I guess they're not the brand for me! Similarly the new Volvo S60 shot up in price after increasing the power of the base engine and is also now an automatic only! At least the Mazda 6 is available as a manual in its' base and mid spec, with 145 and 165hp which is loads, though the 194 top spec is another silly automatic!

@@tanner1ie Yes. Many makers are taking manual gearbox models off the market. Currently, they can’t make enough cars because of component shortages, so they are removing cheaper models from sale. I particularly wanted a plug-in hybrid. They are expensive to make. I bought a Peugeot because it’s less expensive to buy than most and its delivery time was not ludicrously long, unlike some German or British makes.

@@richardwilton722 I remembered your comment and after seeing many hybrid automatics listed since, I thought you must be right .. However I was just looking at the Mazda 3 which currently only comes with a hybrid engine, and that's available with a manual gearbox! So if Mazda can make manual hybrid cars, everyone else can!! 😯😂😀🤘. (I don't pay that much attention to the 3, when I'm much more interested in the 6, but I was pleasantly surprised and as said, it shouldn't be hard for other companies to make manual hybrid cars, so it has to be yet another excuse to push people into automatics! 😯😂)

@@tanner1ie I think that’s a mild hybrid. The electric motor is basically a slave to the ICE, whereas with a full hybrid the electric motor and the ICE act in concert or independently.

Why?

Karun Chandhuk is ex formula 1 driver.... Other guy just a snooker player

Professional driver considered no good on a driving show 🤔

@@emailstomarek I’m sure he’s a great driver but IMO he’s not good on TV

I would because it has the efficiency of an electric car and the convenience of an internal combustion. I don't know what is the EV range of this 508 but our plug-in hybrid sips very little amount petrol using the electric motor most of the time (almost always). When using the electric motor of hybrid, it's dramatically cheaper to run and to maintain unless you're stupid enough to wear out the batteries.

@@t8polestarcyan22 they are better hybrid choices for cheaper. Buy it, at least they'll sell one

@@sylvaind.6786 Plug-ins are the best choice. You can go electric if when you want to keep your full bill to absolute minimum and can use the internal combustion when you need it or when you desire more power. I'm not sure what type of hybrid for this Peug. 508 but it's somewhat heading in a right direction.

Just coz it posted a second less? The six cylinder has got a lot more explaining to do. The Peugeot did exceptionally well considering it used an ordinary version of the 1.6 petrol turbo instead of Peugeot sports fully forged 1.6thp 270hp version.

A company car driver who wants something different and appreciates a great handling car. Save potentially thousands a year in tax. Compare the BIK rates of these cars!

That’s what the 330e is for, but since the 508 PSE is a ”performance oriented” car the performance oriented 3 series is a closer match than the more civil 330e

I definitely agree with you on the running cost of electric cars. That's why I use them for daily short commutes. My Internal Combustion Car however is saved for my special weekend drive.

Because it much more better than German crap

If someone had no idea on cars and got conned by a Peugeot dealer maybe.

There are different dealers in other countries, I must to admit that French cars are much more better made now then German

@@dmytryblyzniuk8211 they really aren’t they’re still piles of rubbish lol

Race track, yes!