Phase 4 DPS Rankings and Balancing Updates | Season of Discovery

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We just received some more class balancing updates and world buffs on the SOD Phase 4 PTR. Let's take a look at the current DPS rankings and these new updates.
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@t9t9t9t9t9
@t9t9t9t9t9 29 күн бұрын
individual logs mean literally nothing as far as "balancing", all they show is who is good and bad at the game.
@JFarenci
@JFarenci 29 күн бұрын
That isn't Melee Hunter at the top. That's Ranged Survival hunter getting Trueshot Aura from a party member.
@alexp2689
@alexp2689 29 күн бұрын
Melee classes need weapons. On the PTR we’re using lvl 50 equivalent weapons. Essentially every melee is missing 20% damage atm except rogues bc their abilities do not scale as well with their weapon dps.
@Abionx
@Abionx 28 күн бұрын
Also doesint matter much for ferals since the weapons are stat sticks only (i mean atm the bis weapon ferals have is the stv wep at 50 and the next bis is sulfuras when at 60 unless they make a new wep with better stats and more atk power at 60)
@Farmer_Farms
@Farmer_Farms 29 күн бұрын
Frost Mage needs to have a talent which makes Balefire bolt apply a chill effect. and brain freeze needs to give the free spell a 10-20% damage increase to make it viable
@kollinsendall1
@kollinsendall1 28 күн бұрын
Bro warlock is f*cked compared to what we’ve been throughout sod.
@Francis-of8cw
@Francis-of8cw 13 күн бұрын
Pretty sure when Warrrior's get some better gear and weapons they're going to be up there on the dps meter.
@mrpotatohead321
@mrpotatohead321 28 күн бұрын
So a 70% nerf to demonic knowledge is “a little bit of a nerf” but a 20% buff to felguard is a “big boost”?
@Redpilledclarity
@Redpilledclarity 23 күн бұрын
Warriors scale incredibly well with gear. Pitt is not even remotely good at testing them properly. They will be top tier 100 percent
@peppin2143
@peppin2143 28 күн бұрын
the logs you're looking at can be misleading, you should set it to 95 or 99 percentile to get a accurate look at the dmg potential you can do. With warrior it's hard to say they are one of the worse when there is no good weapons to use on PTR.
@blackcape22
@blackcape22 29 күн бұрын
....these numbers and logs make me question swapping from hunter to warrior. Hopefully we get buffed.
@johanlahti84
@johanlahti84 29 күн бұрын
A few logs from a few players that we have no idea how good they are at the game? Yeah this is to be taken with a grain of....no, a truckload of salt.
@Donaldburger
@Donaldburger 29 күн бұрын
Most warrior players are dogshit the top warriors will still top meters
@crispymario
@crispymario 28 күн бұрын
Taken with salt and I can't think of a more weapon dependant class than the warrior and were using lvl 50 weapons.
@michaelthomas1916
@michaelthomas1916 29 күн бұрын
What is this stance dancing tier set bonus for warriors? Does it effect tanking?
@tsevarist8727
@tsevarist8727 28 күн бұрын
It's gonna give me carpal tunnel is what it's gonna do
@Lanceloot91
@Lanceloot91 29 күн бұрын
wtf what are those warrior changes thunderlap scales with ap
@RandyRadium
@RandyRadium 27 күн бұрын
warrior main here, looks like im not comign back! doa!
@Alejandro_87
@Alejandro_87 28 күн бұрын
I cope that when the time comes Blizzard will accidentally overtune any buffs that come after the PTR nerfs to warrior 😅
@tsevarist8727
@tsevarist8727 28 күн бұрын
Got a newborn and a ton of life just happening rn. No time to switch characters. Warrior main here going down with the ship o7
@corvuscorax8459
@corvuscorax8459 26 күн бұрын
Brother, warriors will be disgusting in P4. Don’t worry. We are good!
@smackyobassfishing7737
@smackyobassfishing7737 29 күн бұрын
They told us warrior will be strong at 60 just to get screwed
@JohnSmith-ez5pw
@JohnSmith-ez5pw 29 күн бұрын
Man, look at how they massacred Warrior
@user-mt1pg2hd7p
@user-mt1pg2hd7p 28 күн бұрын
Good! You guys literally have it good any other time! let others shine. It's your time to hold the group up!
@ollzable
@ollzable 28 күн бұрын
@@user-mt1pg2hd7plol thats such a weird thing to say. Warriors are literally necessary for 1 thing. To do DPS, and have always been. Other classes have other functions that make them useful even tho they are not popping off like warriors. Now that they fucked warriors DPS and on top of that, made them bad tanks, wtf are they useful for? They literally removed warriors from the game by doing this.
@dbmoose
@dbmoose 27 күн бұрын
A month into the raid with gear/world buffs good warriors will be fine, probably behind rogues, but will still be top dps in 95+ parsing groups. They are already simming very good once they have gear. Your average dad guild warrior was already not great dps when they were busted, so yeah in your average group warriors will probably struggle. If you look at the top logs for each class most classes are topping out around 2.5k, warriors included, with some outliers each way, but among those classes warriors will scale among the hardest.
@PredatoryEra
@PredatoryEra 27 күн бұрын
@@ollzable in my opinion no multi role class should out dps single role classes ever. Multirole dps should always bring more utility. but if we go strictly off the OG single role dps. Warlocks, mages, rogues hunters and warriors should all be vying for top damage. everything else should be designed for utility
@cirezerimar4712
@cirezerimar4712 27 күн бұрын
#savewarriorSoD
@ShibbiSweet
@ShibbiSweet 29 күн бұрын
And then balance Druid 😢 Ima prove em wrong Hammer
@samstewart3103
@samstewart3103 29 күн бұрын
Hurr we go!!
@tandridm6798
@tandridm6798 29 күн бұрын
I wish arms warriors would get some love, not sure what happened but arms used to be a terror in pvp, in earlier phases simply having warbringer rune made you a unstoppable force
@H-D-D
@H-D-D 29 күн бұрын
Their issue has mostly been not being able to reach the target till they are dead. They re getting meat hook which is gonna help
@tandridm6798
@tandridm6798 29 күн бұрын
@@H-D-D that too, I am excited for meathook
@Zutang777
@Zutang777 29 күн бұрын
Or they are easily stopped and CCd Bladestorm does awesome Dmg while being unstoppable. Getting a 100% hamstring root from Cataclysm synergies so we’ll with Bladestorm.
@RandyRadium
@RandyRadium 27 күн бұрын
@@H-D-D this was never an issue, their issue is survivability and not being able to outlive classes burst
@Halloween1988
@Halloween1988 29 күн бұрын
warrior dont feel nice atm on PTr i am not amazed.
@kirarozu
@kirarozu 29 күн бұрын
Whats the difference in those dps rogues?
@hammerdancegaming
@hammerdancegaming 29 күн бұрын
Saberslash sword and dagger mutilate
@anthonygoodwin3872
@anthonygoodwin3872 25 күн бұрын
BASICALLY IF YOURE NOT A WARRIOR OR ROGUE YOURE DOING IT WRONG
@ponds812
@ponds812 29 күн бұрын
What I think, Nothing. not gonna play Sod again too much like retail
@Zutang777
@Zutang777 29 күн бұрын
I don’t think it’s like retail at all. But it’s just a weird approach to classic class design with the runes.
@eduardomazo692
@eduardomazo692 29 күн бұрын
They arent changing useless runes, kinda lame
@janhst97
@janhst97 28 күн бұрын
Mages are too strong again, they one shotted me with frostfire bolt in phase 3 So they one shot me in phase 4 with 5k??
@richardstofko6331
@richardstofko6331 28 күн бұрын
waited all this time for p4 only for them to completely fuck over warriors.... might be it for me
@BrokenToyAnimations
@BrokenToyAnimations 28 күн бұрын
...? you aint even played it yet lol. and your class scales with gear just be patient
@richardstofko6331
@richardstofko6331 28 күн бұрын
​@@BrokenToyAnimations sry for thinking you're supposed to feel like you're getting more powerful as you level... warriors will be less powerful at 60 and you will be putting out less dps then you currently can in p3
@richardstofko6331
@richardstofko6331 28 күн бұрын
​@@BrokenToyAnimations also I've been patiently waiting for p4 long enough
@MrCriipwalk
@MrCriipwalk 29 күн бұрын
No world buffs changes no P4 for me! Spend more time collecting buffs than play the game, no thanks
@FabiPlant91
@FabiPlant91 28 күн бұрын
You can play the game without getting the buffs too it’s not a problem blizzard made it’s a problem we players made who wants to minmax with everything. It’s true your much stronger but there were many guilds back in 2019 who never complained if you came without some.
@Zutang777
@Zutang777 29 күн бұрын
Not to worry about this. they are scaling the bosses too be twice as easy compared to classic. And adding a hard mode. Everyone will be able to do the raid. Only toxic sweats will try and bring the min max class for world first kills.
@Lanceloot91
@Lanceloot91 29 күн бұрын
you dont need to stance dance as warrior with the upgrades of the last update
@Zutang777
@Zutang777 29 күн бұрын
Stance dancing is awesome. But it’s only good in wrath of the Lich king design. Not sure it works as well in classic.
@claytongiampaolo7848
@claytongiampaolo7848 29 күн бұрын
​@Zutang777 you can say that about most of the classes they borrowed from wrath for
@KDOG4796
@KDOG4796 28 күн бұрын
State of warrior seriously killing my hype for phase 4, might not even resub at this point
@stormwatch7245
@stormwatch7245 28 күн бұрын
Can you please do a video on if you think priests will still be ok as healers in phase 4?
@t9t9t9t9t9
@t9t9t9t9t9 28 күн бұрын
they will be good
@benett1310
@benett1310 29 күн бұрын
Warriors gonna be fine with lv60 weapons… atm o. PTR we are testing with ST weapons
@richardstofko6331
@richardstofko6331 28 күн бұрын
copium
@morgothkj
@morgothkj 28 күн бұрын
That’s what they said “wArrIoR wilL be fInE with WOrld bUffS” and then now they’re saying with lvl 60 wep lmao yall really hate warriors 🤣
@corvuscorax8459
@corvuscorax8459 26 күн бұрын
@@morgothkjyou must not understand the power spike of a good level 60 weapon lol.
@morgothkj
@morgothkj 26 күн бұрын
@@corvuscorax8459 you’re coping if you think a weapon will double/triple your dps cause rn hunters rogues are literally double a warrior dps
@corvuscorax8459
@corvuscorax8459 26 күн бұрын
@@morgothkj tell me you know nothing about classic warrior without telling me...LMAO
@tharpoon
@tharpoon 28 күн бұрын
surely ele shams will get a buff lol
@montoneas9618
@montoneas9618 28 күн бұрын
i dont know what class to play now Paladin warrior or Warlock!!!!!!!!!!!
@tusiranjekupanje1421
@tusiranjekupanje1421 28 күн бұрын
Deathknight
@vilgus7484
@vilgus7484 29 күн бұрын
Been ele since p1, feels bad. I'm hoping we get something before p4 launches. Hoping the larger mana pools further into the phase will push ele up again so we can max rank cast and not run out of mana.
@Roxxor98
@Roxxor98 29 күн бұрын
brother ele has no mana problems ele has just singletarget dmg problems
@Dukk1078
@Dukk1078 29 күн бұрын
Dude ele is number one in pvp
@Roxxor98
@Roxxor98 29 күн бұрын
@@Dukk1078 yes and? i speak about singletarget in pve? like the vid is all about pve lol
@browniesbytes305
@browniesbytes305 29 күн бұрын
Unless they decouple pvp and pve damage scaling ele/boomie/spriest will just be even more oppressive in pvp…
@johanlahti84
@johanlahti84 28 күн бұрын
@@browniesbytes305 pvp is a meme, get over it..
@CatKingCole82
@CatKingCole82 29 күн бұрын
Wanna be in his guild so bag 😂
@Zutang777
@Zutang777 29 күн бұрын
the execute at any rage is so corny of a design. They just need to stop over thinking it. Give warriors double hamstring from CATACLYSM and give warriors Bladestorm. Done and done. I want to charge in combat not use a chain. That’s also a corny theme for warriors.
@Abionx
@Abionx 28 күн бұрын
Well the chain is huge for warriors in pvp since you can pull casters (mainly healers) from the backline up into the fray now, which is very big when in AV more then anything, also you can't charge up a tower but you can pull the fuckees out of it essentially lol Pve its good to pull specific mobs out of grouped up packs for cc and such, so its actually very useful if used in the right situations
@morgothkj
@morgothkj 28 күн бұрын
@@AbionxWrong. Chain doesn’t work on enemies above lvl60.
@Abionx
@Abionx 28 күн бұрын
@@morgothkj why tf would chain not work on mobs your lvl when your lvl 60?
@morgothkj
@morgothkj 27 күн бұрын
@@Abionx are you stupid? I said it won’t work on enemies above lvl 60 which all raid bosses and adds are… Therefore it is only useful in PvP.
@armenchiky
@armenchiky 29 күн бұрын
so no love to shadow priests again ha?
@mattmckern3644
@mattmckern3644 29 күн бұрын
Fr same to warlock
@davidfields5375
@davidfields5375 29 күн бұрын
​@@mattmckern3644you must both be joking
@henriquedasilva3037
@henriquedasilva3037 29 күн бұрын
Boomies seem to be at the botton?
@FTRTIZZ
@FTRTIZZ 29 күн бұрын
lol phase 4 is going to shit how could they even sit there and say that fine with warrior ? like make it make sense please
@Abionx
@Abionx 28 күн бұрын
Because warriors aren't going to shit... the ptr only has lvl 50 weapons, and warriors are heavy wep required class, so of course they look like shit. Your basically seeing a lvl 50 warrior with pre raid 60 gear but a lvl 50 wep dps compared to most lvl 60s pre raid dps
@FTRTIZZ
@FTRTIZZ 29 күн бұрын
so warrior tank sucks and dps ????? you switching classes after investing how many hours ... that's not balanced brother
@Jason-993
@Jason-993 27 күн бұрын
Warriors babyraging while they have dragonslayer buff is hillarious. They spent so much time whining how other classes should be less than 50% of their dps because of them being hybrids (while warrior is a tank/dps hybrid itself... ) and due to utility (while warriors had the best debuff in the game in classic wow in sunder armour, rogues can do this but at a decent dps loss.) And now they QQ when the shoe is on the other foot.
@dylanreidel5520
@dylanreidel5520 29 күн бұрын
You should have waited for this video the stats aren't there with the huge rogue nerf this data is outdated hammer you fishing for views man boi
@arch4916
@arch4916 29 күн бұрын
Changing to rogue cuz its buffed over class you like its real crybaby move dude.....
@t9t9t9t9t9
@t9t9t9t9t9 29 күн бұрын
leaving a comment like yours caring about what class someone plays in world of warcraft is "the real crybaby move"
@mageeboi
@mageeboi 29 күн бұрын
@@t9t9t9t9t9 leaving a comment like yours on someone else commenting on what class someone else is playing in world of warcraft is "the real crybaby move"
@davidfields5375
@davidfields5375 29 күн бұрын
​@@mageeboicrying about crying about crying, classic.
@arch4916
@arch4916 29 күн бұрын
we're square now guys :)
@Devils1023
@Devils1023 29 күн бұрын
balance druids are nonexistent again how fun
@brandonwilson4740
@brandonwilson4740 29 күн бұрын
They dominate pvp quit whining
@t9t9t9t9t9
@t9t9t9t9t9 29 күн бұрын
if you 95+ parse balance is good on some fights in ST, you might be bad
@davidfields5375
@davidfields5375 29 күн бұрын
Immediate complaining 🙄 I'm a warrior and I'm optimistic, ever tried it?
@Tiemooo59
@Tiemooo59 29 күн бұрын
@@davidfields5375at the end pc every phase warrior was one of the best or like in ST by far the best dps. As soon as people find out how to play it in p4 and warriors get gear they will for sure be on top again. That’s what always happens in classic when warriors get gear
@davidfields5375
@davidfields5375 29 күн бұрын
@@Tiemooo59 well maybe you just need to figure out how to play balance?
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