Phase Changing Pollutant - Stationeers Venus

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Flipsie

Flipsie

23 күн бұрын

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@pinaz993
@pinaz993 21 күн бұрын
You know, you COULD make a stacker for each machine... or, you could invest your time in running chutes from your machines into a ballpit, so that you can still have the entertainment of items colliding, but also be able to walk through your base easily. Bonus points for throwing all your floorage into the pit, and proudly telling Shadow that you cleaned up your base, before revealing the eldritch horror in the basement.
@voidphilosopher42
@voidphilosopher42 20 күн бұрын
Or you could embrace madness and give each machine 2 stackers, the first one stacks things, and the second one unstacks them before dumping it into the floorage. This will make people stop asking you to make stackers. They'll ask why instead 🙃.
@AkimboOrphans
@AkimboOrphans 17 күн бұрын
The problem with the pollutant cooling loop (if I understand the setup etc correctly) is that you are trying to cool 100 degree CO2 with 400 pollutant... it doesn't matter what your set-up is or if you have it set up correctly/incorrectly; you're going to be adding a massive amount of energy into the system until you cool that down sufficiently. Running the pol through a temp A/C unit before you pumped it in would have saved you *a lot* of headache
@n0bl3hunt3r
@n0bl3hunt3r 22 күн бұрын
I think you need to add “IT’S EVEN HOTTER” to the soundboard to play whenever things are just weird. And so far from the weekend’s stream-a-palooza we’ve gotten frenetic alien shooting and now (mostly) chill building.
@Juice-ud9wz
@Juice-ud9wz 22 күн бұрын
I like the idea of a room of shame lol. For example a 1 block room that your skulls go into. You conveyor them in so they roll around, and eventually the room fills up. You end up with a unique centrepiece in your base.
@echodeal7725
@echodeal7725 22 күн бұрын
the heat exchangers in the middle of your phase change loops are mostly *undoing* the work the phase changers just did - you transfer heat into the gas in the evap chamber, which is supposed to be transferred out of it in the condensation chamber, but instead the heat exchanger short-circuits that by dumping the heat back into the liquid!
@leetom5192
@leetom5192 21 күн бұрын
That actually isn't true. The heat exchanger is actually extending the range (the delta temperature) the phase change loop can achieve. It basically cool down the hot liquids coming out of condensation chamber, while heat up the cold gas coming out of evaporation chamber. That means the liquid going into the evaporation chamber starts at lower temperature and thus achieving even colder temps, while the condensation chamber is getting even hotter gas, thus able to push out more heat out into the hot end.
@danielmills7972
@danielmills7972 22 күн бұрын
Something to think about that I've seen done elsewhere for the heat pool / dump to outside bit: make a large tank and set up two pumps. One pump (or powered vent in this case) is set to fill the tank only at night (so you are minimizing the heat content you have to deal with), and have it fill to only around 4.5 MPa. The other pump is set to dump the air outside only when pressure exceeds 5 MPa and the temp is about 30 degrees warmer than the night temp (i.e. the storage tank is full and has warmed up, setting the cutoffs to wherever you are comfortable). The whole point is now you have a reservoir to work with that is at the coolest environment temp that you have to deal with.
@ParanoidMarvinMk2
@ParanoidMarvinMk2 22 күн бұрын
Isnt one of the things about Venus (as opposed to Vulcan) that the atmosphere DOESNT change at night?
@Flipsie
@Flipsie 21 күн бұрын
Yup, same temperature at all times of day so there's no advantage to pumping at night
@DeltaV3328
@DeltaV3328 21 күн бұрын
@@Flipsie But it is cooler during storms .....
@entelin
@entelin 15 күн бұрын
@@DeltaV3328 In theory it would be possible to do phase change cooling by using the storm as a temperature dump. But only barely, water is required as the coolant, and you would need to build a *huge* storage compartment that would basically equalize it's temperature with the storm when one happens. There's like only a few degrees of leeway, so you would be cooling on that small margin the whole time between storms. I don't think anyone has done it yet.
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn 11 күн бұрын
The reason why your pollutant cooler was not working was because you kept panicking. Pollutant needs to run above 5.6MPa to work correctly, and it did for a few seconds (at 1:38:57 you can see temperature dropping by 1*C every 2 seconds), but every time it was there (or almost there) you kept removing pressure (first by adding that extra tank and then by setting the safety valve to 5.5MPa
@colinsutherland8446
@colinsutherland8446 21 күн бұрын
New starting gear is kinda interesting. They have tuned to encourage using certain things. But they have a lot of backup power generator stuff gas and coal. Lot of things in handy packs. I kinda like it.
@PerAbich
@PerAbich 21 күн бұрын
You should set the codensation chamber to a lower pressure than the purge valve. Otherwise you try to build pressure that always bleeds of. (Not sure if you did this later in the video)
@StarfishPrime-yt2iv
@StarfishPrime-yt2iv 21 күн бұрын
The pollutant loop is just too hot. It will do all sorts of weird things until it gets to a stable operating temperature. It can only even begin to make liquid at 153C @ 5.8Mpa. I'm not sure what your target is, but ideally, you want to cool the gas to around that temp before you pump it into the system. Def to be expected that it would be doing crazy things. Just have to let it stabilize.
@matthewsheerer4814
@matthewsheerer4814 21 күн бұрын
Splitting I believe you still have a bunch of pipes in the spare backpack on the gas room floor. As well you are taking heat from and putting it back into the same pipes
@matthewsheerer4814
@matthewsheerer4814 21 күн бұрын
Nvm u fixed the piping..😅 also you have a previous co2 tank that is "filled" with gas..
@isaacvonleu
@isaacvonleu 20 күн бұрын
Gem, Ginny, gift... Sounds fine to me
@griffinmartin6356
@griffinmartin6356 21 күн бұрын
the heat exchanger in the middle is making the hot gas coming from the evaporation chamber heat up the colder water which makes the system more inefficient and more likely to explode. You do not want that heat exchanger
@leetom5192
@leetom5192 21 күн бұрын
That actually isn't true. The heat exchanger is actually extending the range (the delta temperature) the phase change loop can achieve. It basically cool down the hot liquids coming out of condensation chamber, while heat up the cold gas coming out of evaporation chamber. That means the liquid going into the evaporation chamber starts at lower temperature and thus achieving even colder temps, while the condensation chamber is getting even hotter gas, thus able to push out more heat out into the hot end. Yes, this does increase the chance of explosion, but, also better temp range.
@mastashadow5031
@mastashadow5031 22 күн бұрын
thanks splitsie perfect timing just put the Kids to bed.... looks like will be up to midnight tonight
@AsilarWindsailor
@AsilarWindsailor 21 күн бұрын
Do you think it might be worth putting emergency overpressure relief valves on the various pipe networks in the base? Depending on the gas, perhaps to outside so you don't end up with toxins in the air inside
@edwardcullen1739
@edwardcullen1739 16 күн бұрын
Inline Liquid tanks are the problem - the gas is evaporating in the pipes, rather than staying a liquid. This means the the evap chamber cannot work. Remove the inline liquid tanks, make sure there is enough pressure to keep the liquid coming from the condenser liquid and it will start working. To be clear - the inline tanks are acting like evaporation chambers, BEFORE the evaporation chamber. This is not what you want.
@Flipsie
@Flipsie 16 күн бұрын
I think there are a variety of issues with the system that really need a proper setup to test. I'd like to see if the counterflow heat exchangers actually benefit the system overall vs other approaches. But I'm not sure I'll get round to doing a proper test before finding something else to build instead :D
@edwardcullen1739
@edwardcullen1739 16 күн бұрын
@@Flipsie ☺️ I was setting up a pollutant cooling loop the other day - wanted to liquidise the pollutant I had, which is why I'm so confident about what I'm saying. When you look at the phase-change chart, you have to achieve the correct temp+pressure _then_ any volume in addition to this will liquify. Conversely, when you put a liquid into an empty pipe, it's immediately going to boil-off until there's enough gas pressure to keep it in the liquid state. (I'm 99% that this is what was catching you out; you were going through the same WTF I had 2 weeks ago 😂 - "It's a liquid pipe, so why is it full of gas?!?!") In this episode, you added an extra inline liquid tank to try to get things to work. If you'd done the opposite, it would have started working sooner! As evaporation provides cooling, so you want to make sure that the ONLY place the output from your condenser evaporates is in the Evap Chamber. This is where having an additional gas comes in - filling the liquid pipes with Nitrogen so that the pollutant will always remain liquid. Think of a pure liquifier setup - convert all X to liquid. Let's assume your heatsink maintains perfect temp and that all the plumbing is setup. You set your heatsink to the target temp and the chamber to the target pressure. You start by filling the chamber with X. As the chamber fills, the heatsink starts to draw heat out of the gas. Eventually, you will hit target pressure and temperature. As you hit critical temp, you'll start to see condensation, which generates heat, which raises temp, causing liquid to boil again. Now, set the heatsink temp BELOW target for pressure. This will cool gas to liquid, but instead of immediately boiling-off, it stays liquid, but this reduces pressure in the chamber. The chamber will draw in more gas, presumably heating the contents, pushing pressure over target, until the heatsink reduces the temperature again. At this point, you start outputting liquid. The output pipe is empty, so liquid immediately evaporates and drops the temp, until the pressure reaches a point where liquid remains. If, instead, the output pipe contained N2 at the target temp/pressure, then the liquid would stay liquid.
@ColinRichardson
@ColinRichardson 22 күн бұрын
The video we were told would not exist... but does anyway!
@dacoz
@dacoz 22 күн бұрын
for the BINGO card, setting up a deep miner (happens much less often but still enough to mention)
@shadowdrake082
@shadowdrake082 22 күн бұрын
Glad to see phase change heatpumps have been going well for you. So next time you do a group stationeers terraforming, you will be the Phase Change Heat Pump Specialist right? Surely not even TFE could cause one of these to explode. Chances are you may be able to remove an AC device from the upper end and take water down from closer to 330C instead of the three you have getting down to about 250C. If your base gets bigger the bottleneck would be the AC that is connected to Venusian temperatures since that one may be capping out at roughly 5kJ of thermal energy being moved. Do you plan to put heat pumps in parallel to increase the cooling throughput? You also should be able to remove the AC after the pollutants phase change device, but it is kind of acting as a buffer from outright hitting the pollutants evaporation chamber from super heated gases, which could cause a rupture. If you really want to try to push the phase change heat pumps, you can try to pressurize the liquid pipes with Nitrogen for the water and pollutant loops, that way you can keep liquids from the condensation valve as liquids. The caveat to this though is that you have to be really careful not to let the evaporation side far exceed the max condensation temperature or liquid pipes will pretty much go boom. Edit: I will say that when you added the extra liquid in-line tank, you helped prevent boom, but most of your liquids evaporated into that space and didnt really accomplish much. It wasnt until you absolutely moved the pipe to after the counterflow that you had more than enough liquid pollutants to cool the entire system down. Edit2: Looks like you may not have needed the purge valve, it seemed like the water was still trying to get all the heat out from the 400C pollutants it had to rapidly cool as well as the extra 6kJ that the evaporation chamber was eating up and moving to the condensation chamber. The safety feature of it is good considering you have been having some pretty large temperature swings. Edit3: Any reason you aren't using a powered vent to pressurize your greenhouse with CO2? Should be much faster than a volume pump as the pipe network empties... not sure if a turbo volume pump would be much faster with a highly pressurized pipe network. Edit4: Advanced Civilization in Venus must be holographically projecting storm winds into your base.
@morris2095
@morris2095 22 күн бұрын
splitsie you could use a pipe mixer and mix the CO2 and nitrogen togeather and only use one pipe
@Flipsie
@Flipsie 21 күн бұрын
Until I've worked out the base ventilation system, I'd prefer not to mix the gases except where they're needed
@blipzero
@blipzero 22 күн бұрын
why not separate all your gases due to temperature ? split them into containers so you can use them for other uses .
@Flipsie
@Flipsie 21 күн бұрын
The gasses I'm cooling are being cooled because I need them cooled, the others are being left hot because they're safer that way. I don't really have any purpose for gasses that are hot except for the furnace, which will have its own complexities, so this system seemed to fit my needs :)
@runesdeluxe9744
@runesdeluxe9744 20 күн бұрын
are we planning on terraforming venus?
@Flipsie
@Flipsie 19 күн бұрын
At this stage I wasn't planning on adding the terraforming mod, but I can always add it later on if I feel like I want to keep going with this save for that extra challenge :)
@marcusw86
@marcusw86 22 күн бұрын
I’ve never seen a dog that wasn’t driven by food, haha, is she broken? Or just well feed? Haha
@Flipsie
@Flipsie 21 күн бұрын
I think it might be a part of why she was a rescue. I suspect she was rejected because without being food driven she'd be harder to train. That's ok for me though, she's still trainable, it just takes longer and constantly changing the treats on offer, but she eventually gets it :D
@marcusw86
@marcusw86 21 күн бұрын
@@Flipsie they can all be trained.Like children, some just require most patients and time.
@Pystro
@Pystro 17 күн бұрын
@@Flipsie For training your dog with play while avoiding her getting too excited, I would give her a command at the very end of a walk, right before you come home and enter your front door (or whatever transition you have into places where you can play. On the next walk, you give her a command 2 steps from the front door, then 5 steps, then 7, then 10, and so on. Praise her immediately, but the reward (play) is delayed until after you step through the front door. She should pick up on the fact that the reward only comes at home, so I wouldn't expect her to get too excited during the walk. But if you increase the distance between command and reward slowly enough, she should still link the two.
@Magnetis0101
@Magnetis0101 20 күн бұрын
Wow Splitsie What a mess you got there since when was you so disorganized like that.. doesn't that drive you crazy being that way. Clean up and Organize that "Mess" and I'll sub the channel?
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