PHASES of Workplace MOBBING | EXAMPLES of Workplace Bullying

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PHASES of Workplace MOBBING | EXAMPLES of Workplace Bullying | Emotional ABUSE at Work

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- Name it to survive it: “mobbing” versus “bullying”
- Phases of workplace mobbing
- Examples of workplace bullying
- Tips for surviving emotional abuse at work
Survive workplace mobbing, workplace bullying, and emotional abuse at work.
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Resources.
“Mobbing: Emotional Abuse in the American Workplace”, by Noa Zanolli Davenport, Ruth Distler Schwarz, and Gail Pursell Elliott.
Leymann, Heinz 1990. "Mobbing and Psychological Terrors at Work." Violence and Victims. 5:2, pp.119-126.
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“Work Abuse: How to Recognize and Survive It”, by Judith Wyatt and Chauncey Hare.
“Emotional Recovery from Workplace Mobbing: A Guide for Targets and Their Supports”, by Richard George Schwindt.
Workplace Mobbing in Academe and Beyond, Resources by Dr. Kenneth Westhues
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Warning. This video contains descriptions that may cause distress to some viewers. If you are in a mental health crisis, please call your local crisis hotline. If your life is in danger, please call your local emergency phone number.
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline in the US: +1-800-273-8255
Emergency phone number in the US: 911
Disclaimer. I am neither a psychologist nor a health professional. I speak from the perspective of a survivor of emotional abuse. Please consult your doctor and other appropriate health professionals whether applying the information in this video is safe for you.
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@saviolla73 Жыл бұрын

Why does this always happen to intelligent, highly motivated , well behaved individuals with morals ? And with no consequences to the bullies. All the bad effects including mental physical PTSD anxiety trauma, financial and career derailing happens to the victim and it simply ends their life completely including complicated family relationships due to monetary issues with no redemption available. Despite having tremendous negative effects to life including ultimately the huge possibility of suicide and self harm, why is this not being legally tackled in employment relationships? Why is it not handled in the agreements, why is bullying part of the accepted culture of the company? I've seen and experienced all of your examples especially triangulation, projection, work overload, misinformation, asked to work with zero information, being given menial tasks way below experience level, isolating, public, baseless and unfair humiliation in front of inexperienced staff.

@TheTeganOsmondChannel Жыл бұрын

In Europe it seems they try and tackle this better.

@50shadesofgreyrock68 Жыл бұрын

This is so true.

@williamlevy6964 Жыл бұрын

It's the alpha bully never being challenged, humiliated or punched in the face for his or her transgressions. Why would they change when no one punishes them? Stop teaching boys to be feminine and accept them for their masculine side. They can't stand up for themselves because you are coddling them and it is a form of emotional neglect. This wouldn't be a problem in the first place if the boys were mentally healthy.

@999timepass Жыл бұрын

@@TheTeganOsmondChannel It is very difficult to prove mobbing, ostracism, social exclusion etc.

@laurajane4806 8 ай бұрын

Envy - At the core of every narcissist is an incompetent fake.

@fannym9034 Жыл бұрын

Those abusers often think they are good people, they don't see any issue in the emotional abuse they perform

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, yes, this is often the case. The perpetrators and the bystanders of workplace mobbing don't want to see the devastation they create or condone

@owllady88x8 10 ай бұрын

I personally think that they know exactly what they are doing. They blame the target because they are the perpetual victim, but they know imho. 😢

@normajari8767 2 жыл бұрын

I’m going threw this for the last 7 months it’s been awful I leave work crying.I’m a strong person but sometimes it’s very Difficult.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

I am sorry to hear this, sending you warm wishes to be strong through this trial.

@TRUSTME183 2 жыл бұрын

It starts from the top usually the GM has a privileged favorable manager gunning for the target that is just an experienced employee they feel is a threat to their job position. So they get rid of a GREAT employee for a BAD manager instead of just giving the employee the raise to keep up the good work. Not everyone wants to be a manager but being great is a goal everyone should set.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your insightful comment!

@jopainting1668 2 жыл бұрын

This just happened to me in the Elgin, TX Fire Department. I was ganged up on and shoved out by a small group of individuals who seemed to have been very agitated and bothered by me standing up for the department having standards.

@TRUSTME183 2 жыл бұрын

@@jopainting1668 I believe it is more then that! That is just an excuse they use for a reason to show you the door. Look at job openings for that department and see when your position was posted. If it was already on the job openings prior to your termination. See if they already had made the decision to fire you.💯% especially if they were friendly then all of a sudden they become distant. Why I have no idea except what can they do but lose their job too💯%fact. one last thing they only go by policy or procedures from the hospital to the police department are ALL KNEE BENDING BOOTLICKERS. If you don’t mind but what standards are you talking about?

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

@@jopainting1668 Thank you for sharing your story, stay strong

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

@@jopainting1668 I am sorry to hear that, stay strong

@mrunixman1579 Жыл бұрын

That might explain why people quiet quit at work then and why some will not work.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting!

@tracynewton3083 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I never knew that they mob so they are not the chosen one. They make you feel like your going mad. I left every single job from mobbing and jealous women workers, now im finally understanding to keep my mouth shut unless spoken too which is OK because I was taught that as a child👍👍👍🙏🎁🎄😂🌞😎🌲

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

I am glad you found the video helpful. Yes, jealousy can be destructive.

@bill6044 Жыл бұрын

Yes, for some reason I notice this as a repeating pattern everywhere I go, including with my family of origin. Something deeper is going on that makes this pattern follow one wherever he/she goes. I am a strong Christian who is a typical soft spoken nice guy that really tries to live it out and I think this has a lot do with my case. Any thoughts?

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

@@bill6044 I think that having survived workplace mobbing makes us more sensitive to other cases of abuse because we cracked the pattern. Once we understand what emotional abuse is, we may be able to notice it in more places. Emotional abuse may prevent us from noticing other, more positive things. Anhedonia, or inability to experience positive emotions, is an example of that. I don't think you have done anything to make other people abuse you, it is definitely not your fault. It is commendable that you try to live out your Christianity. I would look into how you set boundaries with other people and if there is any confusion about Christian treatment of others versus having weak boundaries with people who are not emotionally safe. This thought is just a shot in the dark and it may not apply to you, use your own judgment. Also, any experience of emotional abuse is a suffering that we can bring to Christ on the Cross and offer it while knowing that Christ is with us through all of it. Christ survived emotional and physical abuse, He knows how it feels, and can guide you through recovery.

@bill6044 11 ай бұрын

@@SelfcareforBodyMindSpiritThank you for your thoughtful comment. I just now saw it. Somehow I missed it. I apologize about that. I have been busy with school trying to work my way out of this place. The people in this mob are going out of their way to try to sabotage me in order to try to destroy my career before it even starts. I live in a small town in the midwestern US and everyone seems to know everyone. They have formed alliances with people at my internship site who I believe are working behind the scenes to destroy me. Somehow they are finding out who my clients are. I realize that talking about this makes one sound like a paranoid schizophrenic but they seem to have eyes and ears everywhere via their network of gossip and slander and essentially have me under almost constant surveillance when it comes to my activity in public. I am not completely innocent. I made mistakes years ago before I turned fully back to Christ and His narrow way of holiness. The enemy is capitalizing on this and now they are twisting everything I say and do to fit and serve their warped narrative. However, I believe the Lord is using this to discipline me, teach me, and purify me. But you are correct in inferring that I have emotional boundary issues. It has caused me a lot of problem with the opposite sex and I am a married man. They have even begun to harass my wife through social media and they message her all the time that I am doing all these unfaithful things. It’s gotten really bad. We are thinking about leaving the area when the time is right. I am interested to learn more about your experiences with emotional abuse and what you have learned from it. I plan to watch your videos on it when I find some time.

@Phoenix-sq6cr 4 ай бұрын

@@bill6044it is persecution, my belief they attack those high in the Holy Spirit because you trigger their demons . It’s done to take away power, cause stress despair, but god will always look after you . ❤

@angelwishes3213 Жыл бұрын

It can also escalate to violation of human rights and assault, surveillance and harassment, infiltration of personal life and malicious watchlisting and kill listing, crimes against humanity, psychological warfare

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Yes, that is a possibility, hopefully it does not happen often

@selfhelp9175 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I have been through 3 workplace mobbings during my 20s and I now know the warning signs and how to avoid them. I’ve just uploaded a video my channel giving practical advice. More people need this information.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@999timepass Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I discovered the word 'Mobbing' 6 years after I quit my career in tech. Mobbing is what drives people angry and insane. Watch pack of hyena attacking a lion on BBC.

@chrissiebohnert841 2 жыл бұрын

I've been through this with an agency .it's scary and it's causing a lit of people huge harm.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

My heart goes out to you. Good wishes for your healing.

@tubazo23 3 жыл бұрын

It is good for those who are victims of this type of abuse to seek legal advice with regards to how to act and how to keep good notes about such disgusting behavior from superiors and fellow workers.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@tracynewton3083 2 жыл бұрын

Meh, its you against at least ten others. I was employed by a previous boss who was straight down the line. The next one, was ever so nice, but totally fake, be warned.

@AnthonyManzio 9 ай бұрын

@@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit I'm from Canada. What is your advice? Same here being bullied, mobbed, gaslighting, harassed at the hospital for over 12 years. I've happened to be the top worker for 38 years and have never been suspended. These bullies are jealous and miserable people. Union, manager, HR and the police are all totally useless. Bullies are lazy bums and stupid managers are scared of the bullies. They say about me I'm crazy, I drink, I'm a stalker all bs defamation of character. The biggest mistake since they removed disciplinary measures. They should arrest the bullies and fire the manager. Action speaks louder than nasty words. It destroyed my reputation. I will never quit to make these lazy bums ever win. If I decide to transfer to another hospital and may start gaslighting, smearing and bullying me once again, I don't know all the new managers etc. like in every department like now. So best to not change hospitals. I will never let bullies try to control me from quitting. Just don't react and not try to defend yourself which will only go back and forth making me look even more guilty. Action always speaks louder than words. Just best ignore them and find another easier target. Never let these low life lazy coward bums ever win.

@Cobra427Veight Жыл бұрын

Workplace social bullying or silent bullying, eventually turns into community mobbing, it depends how many people you have working against you , most social bullies get a high from defaming or demeaning you especially if you are well known in the community.When they are in a position where new imployees come they will spread as much dirt as they csn to elevat their status There are lots of devotees, lots of bystanders , and virtually no upstanders . Get used to gosting .

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your insight. Good wishes to you.

@Cd-sc1zd 2 жыл бұрын

I found that in the psychology field this runs rampant!! It’s terrible

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, you would expect that psychologists would be more considerate... Good wishes to you, stay safe

@jaceymartin4739 Жыл бұрын

I was bullied horribly in my last workplace. I was even harassed. I say harassed as the front desk cal on Ed my classroom, with deep breathing, a boss that always fault finding, and got yelled at in front of my students

@jaceymartin4739 Жыл бұрын

And the students parents gave a lot of compliments

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your story. Hope you find relief.

@SlavicGirl. 9 ай бұрын

⁠@@jaceymartin4739that’s precisely why you were targeted

@Rato_SheAffirms 2 жыл бұрын

It's an incredibly painful thing to go through. Thanks for sharing

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

Good wishes to you! Thanks for commenting

@seekingtrue9946 2 жыл бұрын

Ehh a method used by Gang-stalkers as well.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for bringing this up, I'll check out the term!

@lebossy Жыл бұрын

It's really disturbing that people do this and it's really a trickle-down effect from poor leadership. I relate to the example of Jim having to reformat his work given unnecessary tasks unrelated to the job while not being given any direction but expected to perform at expert levels. It's baffling being criticized by leadership (especially for assignments not even part of your job) in front of peers so they think it's okay to kick you when you are down too. There is no point trying to reason with people who are unreasonable and anyone who experiences workplace mobbing deserves better for themselves. Once they wake up and realize that they are not the problem and not someone's emotional stopping ground it can help lead to the next best thing.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Your comment is so insightful, thank you for it.

@arivice9057 2 жыл бұрын

I pry these types of people would go to jail

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting, good wishes to you.

@BlaineGag Жыл бұрын

It never ends …… people are insecure asf nowadays …. If your outside …. I’m like I’m not changing …. I’m not letting a job change me …. It’s weird . What a way to give up everything f that I’m good with meh targeted individual at least I have my dignity and worth .

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Wishing you to stay strong. No one can take away your dignity or worth

@pandatabi2346 Жыл бұрын

This is currently what i am going through…

@ivonawelsh2040 Жыл бұрын

Praying for you

@d.hamilton1282 2 ай бұрын

It was hell for me the last two years but I went to school online and graduated with a Master’s degree. Now I am interviewing for new jobs. If you can’t go to school to get a degree, sharpen your skills and maybe work a part time job somewhere to get references and maybe a full time job.

@kristenray9516 2 жыл бұрын

I have lived it.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

So sorry to hear it. It's a terrible experience. I hope you are finding ways to recover and grow stronger from your experience.

@Dune137 Жыл бұрын

Ive been working at the same place for almost 25 years. It's never been easy because Im the assistant to the boss of over 300 people in my department. But when my last boss retired, right before COVID lock-down, everyone came out of the woodwork and started showing their true colors. Ever since, my job has become a nightmare every single day.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

I am so sorry to hear that your work environment causes you distress. I hope you can find a way out of this situation. Please stay safe.

@someoneout-there2165 2 жыл бұрын

This has been going on with me for over a year now. There is a lot of wasted time on me. Then there are complaints that we're not getting profit sharing. Oh I don't know, could it in part be because some people waste time on a "job" that they weren't even hired there to do? I'm a good worker there and put my job above all else. For them to try and distract me there isn't just an attack on me but on the company itself. And when I'm at work, I'm very soft spoken and shy and would never flirt with anyone but they can access my phones data so in the background I've listed who I'd enjoy hanging out with outside of work. Would enjoy helping them out if you get my gist. If that's the "worst" thing I'd like to do, sorry but I don't think that's a bad thing, sounds like a nice thing to do for someone! 😋😜

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting!

@PressEX Жыл бұрын

This is the BEST video I've seen on this topic You rock!

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Glad I was able to be helpful

@geaca3222 12 күн бұрын

Leymann also mentioned the research of Dan Olweus into child bullying in schools. Bullies have common characteristics, not targeted children, but the environment instead has an irrational focus on the targeted children. It's called attribution error of the environment (Jones). This also serves as a psychological protection, the idea that only certain people are victimized, while in reality everybody is vulnerable to it given certain conditions in a specific situation.

@Duhos5 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are the BEST resource I’ve come across and I’m so fortunate and grateful because the algorithm had it pop up but when I do a search with key words, all the super glam channels. This video was so amazing and I sent to many “friends” but very few actually listened. And consequently doing the very things you mentioned for them not to do. My therapist keeps insisting I incorporate socializing and self care but it feels forced and all I think about is work as it’s become my life. I got close to having life incorporated into my careee but that was wiped away by my “trusted” subordinate (I hate this word cos I don’t like hierarchy and everyone on my team is integral for our outcomes) anyhow realized her errors were recurrent and seemingly never followed up on was likely on purpose as the bully knew my subordinate colleague (“sc”) was very loyal and for the bully knew if the Sc had any tension that I’m out… and voila, dismiss the facts, use SC stories as facts, it’ll make her feel victimized, the errors will reoccur and he’ll eventually lose his mind and leave or a conflict and then I’ll get you out. And that’s exactly what happened, the close connection with SC is obliterated, she didn’t professionally grow in some ways bc mgmt intentionally dismissed her role in the errors. And there started the isolation phase, my colleagues even some I’ve never met or new, are fully engaging in all the techniques under the bullying and mobbing including withholding info, gossip, silent treatment, snubbing, passive aggressive . Literally by colleague’s who you’ve never met refuse to engage and gossip about you (however the bully and division head had meetings and emails which excluded me and therefore subjected to his charming lies). It’s so unbelievable that one guy could make up my character and perpetuate it into belief even though I’ve disproven each time he’s created an issue via character assassination. No third party investigations, nothing. It’s as if I’m living in twilight zone. Sadly are my clients, I’m extremely gifted in my art so to speak and with my demotion and restrictions I’ve been stagnant and people who’d wait months on end don’t even have option to get on wait list.

@kiskakuznetsova503 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I hope you're still sharing this info!

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I am passionate about helping people who survived workplace mobbing.

@soleildemidi 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. This is the clearest step by step explanation of what I've just gone through. Every step right through to expulsion! I appreciate your evidence based approach. You are doing great work ❤️

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your encouragement! Workplace mobbing is an incredibly difficult experience, my heart goes out to you. One thing I learned is that it's important to give yourself time to recover. However long it takes. God bless you.

@soleildemidi 3 жыл бұрын

@@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit You are most welcome ❤️ Thank you for your support and encouragement. I'm reading the book and it's been very helpful, even if harrowing at times. I am taking a lot of time to rest and recover, you are right, it's helping with healing. Sending you love and appreciation for your work ❤️

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

@@soleildemidi Thank you, Soleil, you can always DM me on Instagram. The book is hard to read, indeed. I found it helpful that it named my experiences. Once you name it, you can deal with it.

@soleildemidi 3 жыл бұрын

@@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit thank you ❤

@Duhos5 Жыл бұрын

I agree the best produced series on this topic by far!

@lilysmith9130 Жыл бұрын

Wow you are incredibly insightful! How were you able to develop such knowledge and wisdom? You're amazing!

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words

@Cobaltblueprism 2 жыл бұрын

Great summary and advice. Thank you.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting, good wishes!

@ctaylor960 2 жыл бұрын

New job and this is starting already...my profile pic should explain why I am being put through this...nothing new...

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing. Stay strong. Good wishes to you

@dm5129 Жыл бұрын

The women at my workplace send really nasty guys to my work station. Guys they know, and those guys harass me. They preferably sexually harass me by intimidating me, getting into my personal space and mentioning lewd things that lose women are very used to hearing. You know? Mentioning things they would tell low life women. To distress me, because I make it clear that besides my partner , there will never be another man. Now these women at work are those lose type women, know these guys and can not do well with men because those women have a very bad reputation. So they sicken these loser guys onto my throat. They laugh and make jokes after their loser guys harass me.

@vasilminkov4046 Жыл бұрын

What is wrong with your profile pick? You look completely fine and normal.

@robbiea1482 2 жыл бұрын

You provide a great rationale @ 05:44 that the mobbing occurs as a result of a mismatch in values. Can you explain why this creates a mobbing? It seems bizarre that the collaborative person is the one labelled difficult or crazy.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Robbie, it's not easy to explain. A short answer would be that an individual with different values can make a group that acts differently feel uncomfortable. Such an individual challenges the status quo and shows that it is possible to do things differently. By his mere presence in the group, that individual makes others see that the way they do things is not the only way that can be, and that can make people insecure. An unconscious response of the members of the group may be, let's say that this one individual is difficult or crazy, this way we don't have to take what she thinks, does, and feels seriously, we can just discard it.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 2 жыл бұрын

I made a video that discusses your comment :)

@aarond3657 2 жыл бұрын

It's common in abusive situations for the aggressor to play the victim. The aggressor doesn't want anyone to think that they are abusive, liars, character smearing and on the attack. The victim on the other hand is being exposed to more and more patterns of abuse, crazy making, gas lighting and isolation. In mobs, there are a lot of aggressors and one target typically. This target does what he/she can to survive and can look like an asshole if they finally lose it after being provoked so often. So that's how a target can look like the bad guy all the while the aggressor engages in positive impression management among colleagues and also gets to play, "victim," when the real victim is trying to be heard. It's highly engineered

@tracynewton3083 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I reckon it's because of flying monkeys,

@bill6044 Жыл бұрын

The light from those who lives for God, righteousness and the good of others exposes the darkness and you will be hated for it. Just study Jesus’ life and what happened to him. Same with king David again and again.

@peggysemingson Жыл бұрын

Helpful video and nice focus on self-care! I got out of a situtation and have been working on self-care for several years and am still healing and reprogramming myself to get my self-esteem back!

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

So glad to hear that you were able to get out of a difficult situation. Kristin Neff initially worked on self-esteem but eventually found that self-compassion may be easier to learn

@anafreitas821 Жыл бұрын

Very helpful thank you so much!

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thank you for commenting!

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it, thank you for commenting!

@ChaoYun 3 жыл бұрын

Poor Jim 😔

@beasaroseco5840 Ай бұрын

Mobbing like that scene from the movie, Lord of the flies.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit Ай бұрын

I haven't watched it, but thanks for commenting

@stephanekoumou2472 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 💗!!!! I needed to hear this!!!! GOD BLESS YOU with more knowledge and joy 🙏💕

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome, I am glad it was helpful, God bless you, too!

@SUTIKNOTV 3 жыл бұрын

The best Vidio my frends.....

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting!

@humanistastv 3 ай бұрын

I think that a collaborative person should work for the 10% of the companies those that don't have a competitive- toxic-agressive culture!

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 3 ай бұрын

Yes, I agree.

@bluesal 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting content thanks for sharing

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@e.falcon6732 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ! This very helpful information.

@SelfcareforBodyMindSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was useful! Thank you for watching.

@pavanatanaya 9 күн бұрын

Record everything. Technology may or may not be legal, but I say record it all and let a civil court sort it out. Publish the abuse with the company name all over it