Everybody appreciates Harry for this, because you just summarized why Harry is on his own in the KZfaq-world

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indeed, and live the screen in the BMW, which looks exactly like the Ioniq 5, but hate the grill.

This is because Harry is (in addition to a farmer) a motoring journalist / editor by trade, who just happens to be using KZfaq; it’s just a platform that serves him 👏

seems a slight apples to oranges comparison? There are elements of the taycan like space that might mean your family uses it differently so the tests might bias towards you taking it on longer trips? An iX or any of the many SUVs may have been a better comparison.

I've had a school teacher who talked the way he talked. He was a historics teacher

Either Latin or D&T for me !

If i'd had school teachers as engaging as Harry, I would have listened, and likely gone further in life. Sadly my teachers back in the 80's spent more time trying to appear cool in front of the students. I had no respect for the idiots.

@@user-ow9xg9vq5x he also teached latin the teacher i talked about 👍

@@GenaFSuch a shame you had that attitude.

Saves the planet though. Honest gov.

Volvo are 100% owned by Geely, and Geely are owned by a Chinese CCP party member - don't give them your money, you are just supporting human rights atrocities. Also most RHD Volvos are built in China now, so you're paying European prices for Chinese car.

As an owner, I can also very highly recommend the XC60 T8, owned one for nearly 4 years now, zero issues, comfortable, great mileage, fits family and all gear.

Volvo 🤮, slowest cars on the road. allways 10 under the speedlimit. and people call bmw uglly, but volvo is in a diffrent leauge. + it's chinese. bleeeh

@@Iceeeen that feels like a very lazy 2am-and-I-can't-sleep-yet trolling attempt.

Agree, my dad runs one. Very fast car, 400+ hp. Air suspension is extremely comfortable, and the Inscription variant has all the options you'd want (heated and cooled seats, pano-roof, B&W sound etc). And it should have a serious towing capacity.

Your battery will degrade quickly and your resell will diminish along with it.

@@jrgb9945 Your brain will fall out of your ears & your legs will be on fire. Thanks for taking part but you haven't won a prize this time.

Not to mention the electricity needed to pump the petrol into your petrol tank.

Yeah. I just drove my Model Y from the Scottish Highlands to Southern Ireland. Stopped once to charge on the way down, (Chargeplace Scotland charger) once while we were away (Irish charger) and then once more on the return trip at the Belfast supercharger. I had to stop more often to go to the loo and let my dogs out than the car did. I do miss my Range Rover Velar D300 but I'd have had to make as many stops in that car.

Try it at minus 20 in winter

Tesla has lost me with the behaviour of Musk. It shouldn’t matter as ‘it’s just a car’, but he’s gone so far that I find him becoming dangerous for democracy.

@@bishopdredd5349Musk is a champion of democracy & free speech, like it or not we can’t just cancel everyone we don’t agree with.

@@bishopdredd5349. What an absurd observation.

​@@mauripekkarinen1cant you read? By the way, it seems to me that what you need is another brand with better reliability and chassis control, not avoiding phev

​@@comeberzaExactly my thoughts, perhaps try a BMW PHEV instead of blaming that type of technology, let's face it, you will get a better car for 2/3 the price.

At least it hasn't caught fire like that one at Luton airport.

British cars and electrics do not mix. Buy something German if you’re going the EV route.

Don’t mention the F word 🤫

60% of 300 mile range is 180 miles. Stopping every 180 miles to recharge for 20 mins is not competitive.

​@@rjbiker66I probably stop about that often in my diesel car, even though it could go 500 miles on a tank. Especially if there's others in the car who also need to stretch their legs and use the facilities. Lesser known highway code guideline is to take a 15-min break every 2 hours as well 😉

@@rjbiker66 That's every 2.5 to 3 hours, no? A 20 minute break is highly recommended at that point.

ABC - Always be charging.

Harry did mention the tax benefits

And the need to be always thinking @@gordonsimpson3235

Just think how much more fun it would have been in a light agile car.

@@davidmatthews3093 sure, but I transported me & my family to south of France for holidays, there is no real "light and agile" option for this use case. Also, I own one car for all purposes, not 10 different cars for 10 different occasions. I can tell you that for a large comfy (and extremely economical) estate car, the handling as well as the performances are very good.

Most Australians do not agree with Harry’s analysis and conclusions. Nobody in Australia buys PHEVs as they are seen as pointless. In Australia at least, a Tesla Model Y has long been considered an everyday car for the masses. This is especially so considering the Model Y’s AUD $65,400 purchase price which is comparable to the Toyota Hilux and Ford Ranger utes, the top 2 selling cars, which easily retails for the same price. The Model Y is the number 3 selling car, and the top selling passenger car, for September 2023. Moreover, when the total cost of ownership is considered, whereby a massive $40,000 is saved from avoided petrol and engine maintenance costs over 20 years, the overwhelming economic case of owning is EV is irrefutable. By 2026, petrol and diesel cars will become totally obsolete and pointless, due to high fuel and engine maintenance costs, the inconveniences of fueling and visiting a workshop and carbon and noxious gas emissions.

yeah it's pretty compelling. I recently added a BMW CE-04 to my garage. What a wonderful little machine. The car and the other bikes don't see much use anymore and I suspect in a year or two I'll have a lot more space in the garage.

Hi And thanks in advance I just wanted to ask one question I have a x5 50e on order just curious to know when you run out of Battery power what is it like when overtake a car or lorry What is the power like Or does it keep some battery power in reserve for such moves?

And I suppose, when you’re sitting inside, at least you don’t have to look at it!! 😮😂

@@baz4240pro I believe it keeps some in reserve for this. There is no point at which I’ve thought it was slow.

@@TIWNA851 Yep! I do prefer the look of the RR from the outside. But my friend who has had an X45e for over a year now, says he likes it more now than when he first got it, and it’s been completely reliable.

Harry doesn't have free electricity; he just paid for it upfront when he bought the array. It would be interesting to know your calculations taking that into account.

Hi for me. I live in the Republic of Ireland and the x5 50e is 45%cheaper than 30 d Spec for spec so it's a no-brainer. You have to buy A50E if you want a x5 because the government have put big tax and duty on diesel x5

Money never trickles down. Never has. Never will.

Totally agree. And the size and weight of these cars are certainly not trickling down either. From an accumulated environmental perspective this can’t be the way forward. If it’s not meant that motoring is just for a chosen few? The CO2 focused madness does not add up.

All new cars are too expensive for the average family. Buy used

^ Exactly - used EV’s are currently cheaply priced, as the deprecation right now is on on the higher side.

These are one end of the scale, once 2nd hand Ionics and EV6’s hit the market they should be sensibly priced with plenty of range and warrantee left.

That's just how electricity works, charging efficiency is limited by physics. I'm hoping he parks these things outside or in a different garage normally, because if one of them explodes as (particularly Range Rover) PHEV's are want to do - it'll take out all those classic collectable vehicles.

Even if there is a 10% loss, when one compares home charging @ 7.5p verses public charging @ 35p - 60p the inefficiency of less than 1p per kW palls into insignificance

@@mikejoseph425 I appreciate that it’s so much cheaper charging at home but if you are ‘losing’ 10% while charging you really should adjust your consumption figure to take that 10% into account. I’m just amazed that it’s considered acceptable by the manufacturers and that they haven’t found a way to prevent it. Maybe they will in the near future but they certainly don’t advertise the fact when they’re selling you the home chargers!

@@Beer_Dad1975 Harry’s home charging ports are in his car port outside his house rather than in his ‘garage’ with his collection so I think his special cars are safe! 👍

@@reinmansmithAh good stuff then! I do wish EV manufacturers would make it clearer about the risks of home charging - sure it's unlikely, but it does happen, and when it does, it's very, very bad.

I think he was basing it on the 3 cars he would consider purchasing. With ix and Tesla being discounted because they’re not particularly attractive.

Most Australians do not agree with Harry’s analysis and conclusions. Nobody in Australia buys PHEVs as they are seen as pointless. In Australia at least, a Tesla Model Y has long been considered an everyday car for the masses. This is especially so considering the Model Y’s AUD $65,400 purchase price which is comparable to the Toyota Hilux and Ford Ranger utes, the top 2 selling cars, which easily retails for the same price. The Model Y is the number 3 selling car, and the top selling passenger car, for September 2023. Moreover, when the total cost of ownership is considered, whereby a massive $40,000 is saved from avoided petrol and engine maintenance costs over 20 years, the overwhelming economic case of owning is EV is irrefutable. By 2026, petrol and diesel cars will become totally obsolete and pointless, due to high fuel and engine maintenance costs, the inconveniences of fueling and visiting a workshop and carbon and noxious gas emissions.

Yep 250 miles divided by 30 mpg means you’d use 8.3 gallons of petrol, which is about 38 litres. At £1.52 per litre that’s £57.5. Yep you’re about right! Although my old Ibiza would get 40 mpg easily. Usually 45-50 mpg. Which would bring the price down to more like £37. I guess that’s not quite the same as driving in a Porsche though 😛

@@Kefford666 A few months ago I was driving on a Sydney highway. Even though I was in a compact car, I overtook a Holden (Chevrolet) Commodore sports sedan with a a 6.0L V8 engine. With his fuel economy being a dismal 15L/100km, his annual fuel bill would be a staggering AUD $3240. Over 20 years this totals a whopping $64,800, which is more than new purchase price of the damn car back in the 2010s. By 2026, petrol and diesel cars will become obsolete and pointless.

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b In the UK it will be more like 2030-2035. I see people switching as the infrastructure improves (more public chargers, more homes with private chargers) and lots of used EVs appear on the market for reasonable prices. I do think it will be hard for people in typical English terraced housing to charge at home and that’s really going to hamper EV popularity here. I’ve not been to Sydney but have been to Perth and Brisbane and they both looked much more convenient for home charging compared to the UK. As a country we also need to continue to increase the percentage of clean electricity in our grid. Currently an EV in the UK takes 4-5 years to break even but in Norway they can do it in one year. Isn’t Holden equivalent to Vauxhall? If someone manages to make a synthetic fuel that can be put into ICE cars with little or no modification then that will keep them going for another couple of decades. We already have diesels running on sunflower oil!

@@Kefford666 Yes, no matter where one lives in the world, unless a prospective EV driver has private EV charging at home, then a current 2023 EV is just not viable. About 70% of Australians live in detached free standing houses, with the remaining 30% living in residences being units, apartments and townhouses. Before too long, battery and charging technology will improve to the point where 300km of range can be gained with a 5 minute fast charge. When this improvement comes about, along with price reductions, EVs will render petrol cars totally obsolete and backward from a technical and usability standpoint. Charging infrastructure will quickly accomodate this development for obvious commercial reasons. Another critical aspect which will enable EV to be a true maintain car choice is simply the new EV price. EVs will need to be available at the AUD $40K and $30K prices points as many consumes baulk at the proposition of spending $57K on a Tesla. For most consumers, what they care about with a new car purchase is the initial upfront cost. It is just not enough to inform the consumer that the total cost of ownership with an EV is much lower compared to a petrol car as they cannot mentally reconcile these facts.

Well said Gary. EV’s simply aren’t fit for purpose and when all the dust eventually settles a great many people will realise they’ve been conned by Governments everywhere. Wait till councils everywhere start charging thousands for the right to bury a lithium battery in landfill every decade. The car industry loves all this because it’s the biggest sales event ever, the complete resale of every vehicle on the planet over ten years. And when lithium batteries are banned from all underground garages, shopping centres and car parks they’ll get to say, oops sorry, and sell them in a new format all over again. Exactly what’s wrong with an efficient ICE vehicle doing 60 mpg?

This is the most sensible option, although performance is largely a gimmick. The LR is a better buy. I genuinely don’t think you’d find a better all round car than a Y. Super Practical, Super Efficient, relatively cheap. And that’s before the benefits of the network.

What about all Land Rover models full electric for 2024

Whilst clogging up and destroying the roads by weighing the same as a lorry!

Agreed. I saw a recent report from a Tesla X owner being quoted £6,000 / year to insure by LV. This is because parts are hard to get and there are very few repair shops in the UK capable of doing accident repair work.

@@EvoraGT430how does that “clog up the road”

Yeah, the thing is that DC charging is generally so much more espensive that even with the 10% inefficiency, it's much cheaper on AC at home.

Yeah, our Millionaire of The People here isn’t really the most objective reviewer. Especially when he gets free cars for the entire year.

​@@GingerPiston Then why don't you go watch Carwow if you want a review of an Astra. If you have a clue (big if) then you know Harry's garage is a channel where more expensive cars get reviewed. If you don't like that doors right there mate.

@@teabagtowers3823 i wanna see him review "dream" cars but are the people buying them really concerned bout mpg? If youre payin a £2k/month lease are you tryin to save £40 in petrol?? Seems odd to me.

@@karlos72 If you want to save money on fuel buy a diesel.

@@teabagtowers3823 yeh, i want a diesel but I want a £200k one cos i wanna spend loads but i dont wanna spend loads?

you mean more expensive , providing you have at least 30 minutes to waste waiting for fast charge providing nobody is there using it or its another 2 hour spent wasting your time , if you can find a working one

@@PalaceofPlacentia Unless you've actually experienced this you have no idea what you're talking about. An average road trip stop is close to 20 mins. My ETron GT will get a full charge in about 30 mins. Planning you're trip is key, but if you've already decided in your head it's not worth it you're no help in slowing the use of ICE vehicles and carbon out put in the air.

My Hyundai Ionic 5 has something similar called Auto regen - its brilliant.

You can select various other regen settings if you dont like the adaptive option

@adamfry1125 mate, if you can show me how then I'll get you a beer. This shit has been winding me right up!

@@howarddavies136 Maybe it's not the same on them all but I can do it via the idrive or even just more shifter across to B mode for full 1 pedal driving. That's on a i4.

@adamfry1125 U11 X1 will only disable it in sport mode 😦 I've just had another read of the manual. You raised my hopes for a moment, and now, nothing but disappointment 😞

Mazda MX-30 with range extender

@@peterbonnez Crossover so needlessly heavy. 1,881 kg, apparently. Very few people actually need that extra height. Most say they need a crossover because they have kids... those notoriously tall people who need a high car.

EVs are discriminatory against the poor. Those with less money are much less likely to have driveways. How many spare hours a week do you have to spend charging a car? Without charging infrastructure on streets, those with less money will be shafted.

@@julianevans9548It’s hardly a unique issue is it, I mean life is discriminatory against the poor. Can’t really blame EVs for that….

@@simonm9923 No, I blame the politicians and their policies - on EVs and everything else. That's capitalism for you.

Or just buy a ICE and don't worry about a thing

@@ThePorkypete51Exactly, it makes no sense to put up with the inconvenience for dubious economic or environmental benefits.

Most Australians do not agree with Harry’s analysis and conclusions. In Australia at least, a Tesla Model Y has long been considered an everyday car for the masses. This is especially so considering the Model Y’s AUD $65,400 purchase price which is comparable to the Toyota Hilux and Ford Ranger utes, the top 2 selling cars, which easily retails for the same price. The Model Y is the number 3 selling car, and the top selling passenger car, for September 2023. Moreover, when the total cost of ownership is considered, whereby a massive $40,000 is saved from avoided petrol and engine maintenance costs over 20 years, the overwhelming economic case of owning is EV is irrefutable. By 2026, petrol and diesel cars will become totally obsolete and pointless, due to high fuel and engine maintenance costs, the inconveniences of fueling and visiting a workshop and carbon and noxious gas emissions.

Why watch then

@@dave9614It’s Harry ! I could watch him boiling an egg and explaining what he was trying to achieve

As Harry said in the video - having an EV charging at home means always having full range on your drive, and for most people that is all they need, for the majority of their driving.

When these people get a new car, the old car isn’t just scrapped ! It’s how the used car market happens 👍🏻

@@SDK2006b it doesn't need selling on in the first place. It's just monstrous greed for anyone who can afford it.