PhiDX Thinks Lee 1+2 Move Is Counter Play To His Weaknesses. This Is What I Think!

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19 күн бұрын

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@blahblahgdp 16 күн бұрын

Bros teaching you how to counter lee but yall just complain about him "downplaying" lee. A literal tournament players word or some random dumbass in yt comments. Who should i listen to 🤔

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

Facts

@Xepher 16 күн бұрын

Considering that not every tournament player does that. Hes very helpful exposing counterplay and weaknesses . But people's so toxic that anything you do is wrong anyways.

@bennymountain1 16 күн бұрын

Neither 🤣 One both has vested interest in downplaying AND is way more pissed about losing in a tourney with his char and the other doesn't know shit.

@fightinggm 16 күн бұрын

@@bennymountain1 what are u talking about?

@Kjernekar 7 күн бұрын

Who are you talking about here?

@DevilRising 16 күн бұрын

I still don’t understand why Lees movement is so bad. For a character focused on fundies and counter poking he can’t keep himself in a space to do that very well

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

They want you to just ch fish more i guess

@blakk6lass 16 күн бұрын

the utility of this move is fully dependent on whether your offense is respected or not, it’s not useful in lower ranks

@Megadeus0 16 күн бұрын

This. Every time I do it into HMS I hold my breath. It can be mashed and interrupted so easily

@dunkarooz9158 16 күн бұрын

u schitzo bro posting this many replies meat rider

@blakk6lass 16 күн бұрын

@@Megadeus0 Even trying to frame trap and use 1+2 is hard. I’ll do 1,2 into 1+2 and I’ll just get jabbed out of it because people mash

@ItsDonBro 16 күн бұрын

1+2 is always good my guy WHAT!??? By itself. If you always go in HMS your leaving your self open. HMS is when you notice openings. Not to spam because you get 3 extra frames of recovery.

@blakk6lass 16 күн бұрын

@@ItsDonBro I’m not referring to after the move, I’m referring to when I do it

@RedVoltage45 16 күн бұрын

wild to me how dude’s say you’re downplaying when you’ve played Lee at the highest level longer than most of them have probably been alive

@Dyleniz 16 күн бұрын

where did phi said this? I want to see the whole clip

@terrencedelancy8311 16 күн бұрын

This type of explanation is gold. Thank you for sharing this.

@thrillainthemanilla1409 16 күн бұрын

Hey GM. Wouldn’t b33 counter the sidestep right and the power crush? If so would that be good counter play?

@fightinggm 16 күн бұрын

Not cause it doesn't track to lees weak side

@thrillainthemanilla1409 16 күн бұрын

@@fightinggm Copy. I think the move is still really good because it is a mid + on block that’s homing. The problem with Lee is how much you have to think against the stronger characters it seems. Thanks for the insight and video

@blackice6456 16 күн бұрын

Thank u bro for the useful information

@fightinggm 16 күн бұрын

Welcome

@praisemidir 17 күн бұрын

7:08 facts

@lpvgs-817 16 күн бұрын

lee needs buff on lows and heat buffs. also need some tracking buff on moves. being able to OS everyone would change the game

@firstdegreesports5120 16 күн бұрын

Mark Jindrak of all wrestlers is crazyyyy 😂

@darkninja9499 16 күн бұрын

Phidx be yapping mindlessly seems he gets ch by 1+2😂

@starsapphirex 15 күн бұрын

As a long time Lee main, I admire your transparency about the character

@fightinggm 10 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching

@cookiethief3672 16 күн бұрын

Heya, where can i find PhiDX saying this?

@lugit36 16 күн бұрын

I’m wondering too

@yungslack7311 16 күн бұрын

Bruh fightinggm been honest his entire career and phidx fans questioning him lol You’re actually disgusting go watch k pop

@MexicanUppercuts 16 күн бұрын

I would love it if Lee had a mid heat smash like everyone else. I want slide to knock down again too 😂 A man can dream

@mfpv_detroit8182 16 күн бұрын

A real legend and still the best lee in the world facts

@MutantPanda155 16 күн бұрын

Bro it sucks seeing people complain about you talking about Lee’s problems, keep preaching the bad word until he’s buffed 🙏

@fightinggm 16 күн бұрын

Yea I'm just teaching people how to fight lee but me doing that is me downplaying lee to people 🤣

@Xepher 16 күн бұрын

I was in phidx's chat (not for this argument but days before) and ppl was talking about Lee and how "strong" he is. I joined in the chat saying lee aint that great, he has alot of issues and every move is steppable or launch punishable. I also said that Lee hardly makes into top 15 characters in the game and i brought examples. Phidx's chat started to attack me , requesting that I get a ban "shoot him, shoot the downplayer". This is degenerate I never tought tekken community was extremely toxic even regarding arguments about characters, that's insane. You should all touch grass and stop living in Twitch while eating some fast food garbo and throwing away your life

@bennymountain1 16 күн бұрын

Bro, they was just having fun chill 😂 "toxic" lmao look at this stoner over here

@jawnjawnson525 16 күн бұрын

Tekken has one of the worst communities known to man, only second to the tarkov community.

@Xepher 16 күн бұрын

@@bennymountain1 You guys have a weird way to have fun. 40-50 ppl spamming requesting me to get banned, "thanos snapped" "break this mf downplayer's legs". this is fun right? Good for you if you are part of the twitch degenerates failures that watch streaming 24/7

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

Yeah phidx is actually very toxic. And he performs pretty bad offline despite all the haughty attitudes

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

@@jawnjawnson525 Tarkov community Lmfao never thought i will see it brought up

@BrandonLee-ss7ze 17 күн бұрын

"Galaxy brain" Phidx does it again. Very true on the weaknesses on hms 1+2.

@praisemidir 17 күн бұрын

perfect homing move my ass

@yelowninja 17 күн бұрын

a homing mid CH launcher thats +2 on block and leaves him in hitman and it isn't even that slow! what other properties a move need to be perfect?

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

@@yelowninja In hitman it is basically the same as being minus pretty much. His options suck in it. Imagine a stance where your fastest mid is 15f and your fastest high is 12f,. Worst stance in the game

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

@@yelowninja Not to mention that it is one of the slower startup homing moves AND has bad range.

@norf-kr6od 16 күн бұрын

⁠@@yelowninja did you even watch the video lol. There’s so much counterplay to hms options it’s nearly a gimmick. And i21 is almost reactable.

@blakk6lass 16 күн бұрын

@@yelowninjaI think it’s actually +1 on block

@Eli-rl5ew 16 күн бұрын

We still fighting bro? I super chatted i think you forgot abt me 😂

@saschasunza9618 15 күн бұрын

You left after he was ready to play you after you donates in super chat. But you might gonna play him in his next stream

@renegadeforlife 16 күн бұрын

Love how y’all hating on the best Lee player for keeping it real.

@firstdegreesports5120 16 күн бұрын

Right

@ItsDonBro 16 күн бұрын

People complaining about 1+2 do not understand the rest of the tools Lee has. Y'all are HILARIOUS. HIT THE LAB.

@TinyMeatGaang 16 күн бұрын

This man hasn't said a good thing about lee since tekken 6

@fightinggm 16 күн бұрын

Complete bullshit. I've said lee is good all of tekken 8. Lee was also good in Dr also and tag 2. Stop lieying

@TinyMeatGaang 16 күн бұрын

@fightinggm prove that he was good in tag 2 and it wasn't just your core fundamentals as a tekken player. Boot it up rn and show me

@malcolmwallace2544 16 күн бұрын

@@fightinggmyou shouldn’t have even responded to a man named tinymeatgang😭

@jyggalag9838 16 күн бұрын

@@TinyMeatGaang lmao "boot it up rn and show me" goofy af.

@dhulinko9904 15 күн бұрын

@@TinyMeatGaang Hahahah stop embarrassing yourself on the worldwide web.

@lpvgs-817 15 күн бұрын

GM drops knowledge on Lee regularly and you still here folks remaining ignorant like he didn't just run down lee's pros/cons in several vids.

@fightinggm 10 күн бұрын

Word bro all lessons hear

@fuko4066 7 күн бұрын

Lee has like 3 moves that leave him plus on block. Leave us alone 😭 Just because we're better than you all doesn't mean the character is broken 😡

@Howfoolish. 16 күн бұрын

My guy, saying you can just option select after 1+2 HMS is like saying you can just punish minus 14 moves with an Electric lmao While on paper yes you can, but its stupid hard on an actual playing field By that logic, Azu's launch wr 3,2 was also alright, you can just ss duck it, you know what I mean?

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

are you high ? It is nowhere near the same difficulty to just press up and duck

@Howfoolish. 16 күн бұрын

@@praisemidir I didn't say it is, I use it as an analogy of how absurd it sounds to option select hitman in an actual match

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

@@Howfoolish. I can option select it in a match fine. It is not absurd and very easy in both timing and response

@jaywhite4891 16 күн бұрын

That analogy is trash dude. You’ll realize that when you practice sidestepping lee

@mzmc3020 16 күн бұрын

What? Bro u act like u in vortex after blocking Lee 1+2😂😂 ur at -2 u can even punch parry it

@johnysimps1191 16 күн бұрын

Been a fan since your ft10s with Arslan in t7 but you been downplaying the hell out of Lee for a while now dawg 😂

@fightinggm 16 күн бұрын

You try playing lee and win and il see how far u can get dawg 🤣 🤣

@oTheGriMReaPeR 16 күн бұрын

Then why isn't any other person playing Lee? There are so many content creators struggling to get Tekken God with Lee let alone GoD. Just because GM makes it look easy doesn't mean Lee is great. Look at every tourney where a Lee entered and see where they placed.

@Xepher 16 күн бұрын

100% your from phidx's chat. Ive been bullied to almost getting a ban by defending Lee's bad spot compared to the top 15 characters in the game rn. Ya'll need to chill the fuck down because you all look like degenerates in his chat screaming "shoot that mf" just because i said lee is just average and needs buff. He has no tracking, ZERO. EVERYTHING IS STEPPABLE to the left, he has no dumb strings, no toxic 50/50's none of that shit. Play lee please, get him to gold ranks atleast I guarantee you , you wont be able to doet

@gio_omb 17 күн бұрын

As a Lee main I can say 1+2 is very good imo. A decent range homing + on block ch launcher that makes the opponent stop the brainless anti Lee. The counterplay you showed is very viable but can also be countered by Lee. It’s guessing and reads on both parts which I think is perfectly fine.

@zaimrana2746 17 күн бұрын

As a homing it is slow. The main problem to have +frames he has to go into hms and after hms it is more of a guessing game for you than the opponent

@vlastermaster 17 күн бұрын

not really plus frames since he has to go HMS to get the "plus" where his fastest move is a 12f high jab and hes moveset is more limited than the opponents, so it is more like neutral but stuck in HMS while opponent is not

@gio_omb 17 күн бұрын

I see what yall saying but being plus isn’t all about how fast your attack comes out. At plus 2 you can step anything they do and punish accordingly especially with how good hm step is. You’d be suprised how good stepping after 1+2 is. They’re gonna have to delay their buttons or just block which then allows you to take advantage of your frames

@gio_omb 17 күн бұрын

@@zaimrana2746 I thinks it’s equal guessing on both parts

@vlastermaster 16 күн бұрын

@@gio_omb yes, thats why i said he is most likely neutral instead of "plus" he can HMS sidestep but opponent can also step lee's options and lee still bound to the options of HMS while opponent can do whatever from neutral... btw dont get me wrong i still think 1+2 is a good move

@anismuhaj4495 16 күн бұрын

60 % of all my oponents react to that move....it's slow it's nothing special hhhh it's anti side step but...the counterhits from lee are insane and his justframes like down 4 into 4,4,4 perfect input Is super .truly i don't think lee Is a weak character he Is pretty strong. He Is A tier. I saw a lee player in tns Flee chaolan he defeated arslan Ash using lee.

@conscriptreporting6265 16 күн бұрын

FightingGM won a ft10 against Arslan ash. his word is the law when we talking about lee and thats a fact

@anismuhaj4495 16 күн бұрын

@@conscriptreporting6265 i know Who Is fighting GM all the major things i know about lee Is from him .

@bennymountain1 16 күн бұрын

@@conscriptreporting6265 Did you just use an example of him winning against one of the top players atm and a notorious top tier picker as proof of his char being weak?

@conscriptreporting6265 16 күн бұрын

@@bennymountain1 no, im using it as example that what he says is prob more right than any other lee or not lee player will say on any midia out there...

@dat1faclesdude 17 күн бұрын

i haven't watched the video but since i know gm enough,i know he is gonna down play the shit out that move

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

Then you do not know him

@robby6382 16 күн бұрын

He says that lee would not work at all without it essentially because it's his only move that punishes ss duck, but at the same time, it isn't the most rewarding if that makes any sense.

@fightinggm 16 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching

@MildCrisp 17 күн бұрын

you literally downplay your character every day of the week fr

@fizzy99974 17 күн бұрын

Buff Lee 🌹

@praisemidir 16 күн бұрын

Who do you main ? i bet you actually downplay them

@kristianresh1794 16 күн бұрын

Aye man he the best lee player so hearing it from him just makes you realize how hard the character is, regardless of the issue he addressed, he making it work somehow

@LuigiUrbina23 16 күн бұрын

Yo GM is usually pretty spot on, but I do think he's downplaying pretty hard haha. It's not broken, but the move does have downsides! You also have great options to stop them if you catch on to their tendencies . I literally got GoD w Lee yesterday and this move played a chunky part lol. My other main is Lars, and It reminds me of DEN 3 a bit. Not as strong maybe but has some really good mind games built in.

@necrofessor666 16 күн бұрын

@@kristianresh1794 Aye man he the best lee player so hearing it from him just makes you realize how hard the character is, regardless of the issue he addressed, he making it work somehow