Philip J Fry: A Man Made of Time

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Bennett

Bennett

4 ай бұрын

Neither Fry, nor Futurama, could exist without time travel. In fact, there are eleven episodes that feature the trope in some fashion. This video is going to dive deep into each one of those episodes to try to get to the bottom of what Fry really is.
SPOILERS: Disenchantment Season 5
DISCLAIMER: All footage is owned by its respective rights holder and is being used under the Copyright Act section 107 Fair Use. I do not own any of the source footage.
Written, Voiced and Edited by Bennett
Music From Epidemic Sound:
Midnight Haze - Jobii
Hot N’ Sweet - Park Lane
Rhodes to Riches - Matt Large
Courtyard Cadence - Dusty Decks
Chameleon Sunday - Arc De Sol
Before Chill - Yomoti
Gogaga - Giants’ Nest
My Piano is Mellow - Daniel Fridel
Old School Trip - Duke Herrington
Aveknew - Shamgang
Early Hours - Color of Illusion
We Began as Wanderers - Cherry the Penguin
Grainy Days - Dusty Decks
The Nckbrker - Matt Large
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@chardude
@chardude 4 ай бұрын
"Thanks to denial I'm immortal!"
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, you get it lol
@ajregalia1334
@ajregalia1334 4 ай бұрын
That goes so hard seeing this XD
@NerdMiGerd
@NerdMiGerd 3 ай бұрын
This video gives a whole new meaning to that line...
@CardboardHippie
@CardboardHippie 3 ай бұрын
He basically is, he was frozen for 1000 years, he watched the whole life of the universe several times, he was paused time, he slept with his grandmother and became his grandfather
@dumaskhan
@dumaskhan 3 ай бұрын
Denial is a river in Egypt. And it flows backwards.
@grimtygranule5125
@grimtygranule5125 3 ай бұрын
Fry unlocking his full potential by *objectively* oding on caffeine is peak show writing.
@SuperGoodMush
@SuperGoodMush 3 ай бұрын
he jus like me fr
@Respect2theFallen
@Respect2theFallen 3 ай бұрын
One of the best episodes 😆
@ZonamaPrime
@ZonamaPrime 3 ай бұрын
I remember the scene in Over the Hedge that essentially copied that
@TheMcstevester
@TheMcstevester 2 ай бұрын
​@@ZonamaPrime Wtf I thought that movie came out first and they were doing a parody of it but you're right that episode came out 3 years earlier. Crazy
@mo0se3
@mo0se3 2 ай бұрын
@@ZonamaPrimenah Over The Hedge copied it from HOODWINKED! who copied it from Futurama.
@danielcampos1715
@danielcampos1715 4 ай бұрын
"Time made a fool for all of us" is such a good ending that I suspect this whole video was made just for that one line
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
I've had the idea bouncing around my head before the line, but it was the title of the document I was writing the video in, so you're not wrong.
@godricnecro
@godricnecro 3 ай бұрын
​@@bennett420 "the best kind of correct!"
@fakechemicals
@fakechemicals 3 ай бұрын
Came here to say this, beautiful, outstanding closing line. *chef's kiss*
@thatrandomweeb7804
@thatrandomweeb7804 3 ай бұрын
​@@godricnecro you can't just say half the qoute
@godricnecro
@godricnecro 3 ай бұрын
@@thatrandomweeb7804 He did durring the video, and then had it shift into "don't make me tap the sign."
@markusnixon3156
@markusnixon3156 4 ай бұрын
SPOILER WARNING: The coffee thing at the end actually really convinced me, the idea that Fry is unknowingly a 4th dimensional being makes so much sense with that!
@aldproductions2301
@aldproductions2301 3 ай бұрын
It does make his weird decision make a lot more sense. I don't think we see him drinking coffee at literally any other point.
@alolol1000
@alolol1000 3 ай бұрын
And wen he interacts with stuff he makes them move at his hyper fast super speed but only when he wants to Like the fire extinguisher.
@Anonymous-zu7dh
@Anonymous-zu7dh 10 сағат бұрын
​@@aldproductions2301 in one episode he goes to his night job as a guard at the head museum, telling Leela that it's to afford coffee to be able to go to his night job.
@thebobbrom7176
@thebobbrom7176 4 ай бұрын
My interpretation of The Late Philip J Fry has always been That it's not a circular timeline but just the next universe. As every universe starts from the same initial conditions they end up exactly the same except one is lower than the other. They didn't kill themselves in the past they just killed 3 people that were exactly like them in the new universe.
@hip-hopanonymous5995
@hip-hopanonymous5995 4 ай бұрын
They say that in the show
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
This is certainly the correct way to view it from the episodes perspective. I would propose though, that your interpretation that they are one after another is based on our perspective of time. If the FFTM isn't moving, it's standing STILL in time (there is precedent for this, this is how the PX Ship moves through Space) then we would have no way to tell if they are moving to a new universe or if this universe is just kind of expanding and contracting while they sit in the same spot in time. But that's just a random thought at 430 in the morning
@steel7307
@steel7307 4 ай бұрын
​@bennett420 out of curiosity, how would youu justify the FFTM without regard to Earth's rotation and revolution, wouldn't this mean they are moving in space aswell?
@sethstersbench
@sethstersbench 4 ай бұрын
Well, except that it’s 10 feet lower
@sonicmeerkat
@sonicmeerkat 4 ай бұрын
@@bennett420 i'd argue it still works with it being the same universe if you just extend it to a multi universe cycle since they're only traveling forwards within the same self repeating universe. the trio leave to the future, skip the next universe making the same thing happen, then replace the trio of the third universe, the second universe trio replaces the fourth and the fifth plays out like the first. the reason i'd argue that doesn't cause a paradox is because there is no reverse time travel going on causing changes, and these events don't alter the universes big bangs shifting a few meters each time plus the whole self contained loop thing. the assumption of the video being one universe containing all of time is contradicted by the creation of the universe being seperate from the creation of time, there was time before the big bang and there was time after the heat death of the universe, you could probably use this to explain the opal but frankly even i think it's too stupid of a task to bother explaining being thrown across universes while not contradicting the 4 universe cycle of this episode lol
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 4 ай бұрын
I was skeptical. Then you brought up breathing himself into existence. I'm in the cult now!
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
I know I might be over analyzing the symbolism in that scene, but right?! It's too perfect to not be intentional.
@borjadetorres7747
@borjadetorres7747 3 ай бұрын
@@bennett420ob my god you’re right. I’m spechless.
@hughgrection7246
@hughgrection7246 3 ай бұрын
So when we getting the time code tats ?
@sonicmeerkat
@sonicmeerkat 4 ай бұрын
honestly the universal time code tattoo is the most interesting point for me because it only exists due to the larz paradox, to our knowledge he never went out of his way to get that tattoo cause the reason he left leela at the alter was due to finding out what happens to paradoxes and at that point both frys had the tattoo from future bender putting it on inside the freezer. it's not just an information paradox, the tattoo never was created, it simply just is and doesn't seem to degrade and yet nibbler was still able to laser it away so it isn't an indestructable object.
@EsotericBibleSecrets
@EsotericBibleSecrets 4 ай бұрын
You can't get something from nothing. Therefore, at some point in the distant future, the snake will bite it's tail and create the past. One is then baffled at how anything could ever exist in the first place. Time is linked with space and is specific to one universe. Each universe has it's own time. When universe forming membranes collide in the 11th dimension, new universes are formed. This explains how new universes can create older universes.
@egoalter1276
@egoalter1276 3 ай бұрын
Brane theory isnt particularly well accepted, and so far there is no clear sign of a big bounce being the endpoint of cosmology. Everything you can definitively prove about time travel still comes from general relaitvity, and only allows for closed timelike curves, and even those require negative energy/mass.
@RedPoisonDragon
@RedPoisonDragon 3 ай бұрын
The way I see paradoxical objects that seem to go back and be themselves over and over again is less that it's a thing that always is. As you described, the tattoo not indestructible, it will eventually erode away if it's constantly torn off and placed back onto his ass. The way I see it, there's a version of the past where the tattoo was placed there with the time code and a version of the future where the tattoo is so worn down that it needs to be recreated, possibly similar, if not identical, to the way it was placed there in the first(?) place. So, time will keep going and repeating itself as many times as it can before something different happens, in which case it needs to happen again for time to continue as it has. At least, concerning Futurama, since it seems they can indeed go back in time through more "natural" means and actually change the course of events, this could be some form of that happening. At some point, the time has been naturally altered by running itself over and over again, so it recreates itself.
@Romashka_Sov
@Romashka_Sov 3 ай бұрын
Time code's existence could be a time knot that has only a starting point, and for some reason it looped to have none, maybe because current configuration of events was the only one that does not resolve in time paradox (or at least it was the most probable configuration). This code may be the corner part of the universe for what we know about it, and in Futurama the universe just kinda existed forever with no starting or ending point (according to The Late Philip Jay Fry is always expanding until the heat death happens until the big bang happens etc.). So if universe has no starting point and code if the crucial part of it, it also have no starting point. The only thing we know for sure that timeline with the code is self-contained, that's it
@UngoogleableMan
@UngoogleableMan 2 ай бұрын
I like to think as nibbler lasers it off him at that point, is what tattoos him in the first place at some unknown point prior.
@grimtygranule5125
@grimtygranule5125 3 ай бұрын
Traveling forwards in time for us "normal" beings is just *advanced waiting*
@depotheose7890
@depotheose7890 2 ай бұрын
i have a time machine that sends me forwards in time by 8 hours in the blink of an eye. i call it bed
@fletch4231
@fletch4231 2 ай бұрын
@@depotheose7890lol
@spaceturd64
@spaceturd64 4 ай бұрын
I think covering the third time travel type before the second time travel type was just complete and utter genius
@ForrFree
@ForrFree 3 ай бұрын
13:55 the timeline that Fry leaves behind in TLPJF isn't actually a paradox at all. Because the gang does not land in the first reincarnation of the universe, they leave that universe's forwards time travel machine unmolested, thus allowing that Fry/Bender/Farnsworth to make the same mistake they did. Thus, it must be that the Universe we follow in the beginning of the episode is one of the "even" universes that a previous Fry/Bender/Farnsworth skipped over as well. Therefore, the cyclic nature of the Universe is restored but in a cycle of two universe reincarnations instead of one. Because of this there is no paradox, only a longer cycle/time loop than you might at first believe.
@crafter1300
@crafter1300 3 ай бұрын
This has always been my interpretation of the episode, which I really like and think works well.
@myplace4play
@myplace4play 2 ай бұрын
Looks like writers intentionally made the gang skip first universe reincarnation to avoid paradox. Hm... just another reason to think that Futurama > Rick and Morty
@technobabb4233
@technobabb4233 4 ай бұрын
The way I look at it is that- When the universe ends with the forwards only time machine, that doesn't end the timeline. The universe recreates itself, the ship goes through again, and lands in the "past"- But it's like pulling out a tape measurer only to see the pattern repeats after you pull enough tape. It's not actually the same spot in the timeline as last time, it literally is in the future, just, now, repeating what was once the past.
@Dangermad
@Dangermad 3 ай бұрын
yea I was pretty disappointed by it being called a paradox because it's still in the linear timeline
@tachrayonic2982
@tachrayonic2982 3 ай бұрын
The only way it would be a Paradox would be if another previous time machine came to the original universe, but because the group we followed crushed their copies on arrival to the new universe, we can assume something like that happened to prevent the previous time machine from coming. Perhaps a 3 or 4 Universe repeating pattern. We saw the 1st Universe where they started. In the 2nd Universe, they overshot. In the 3rd Universe, they arrived and crushed their copies, and everything was pretty much the same before they left. They never traveled to any further universes, but it could be assumed that a similar group would depart from the 2nd Universe to arrive here in the same manner, crushing their copies much the same in the 4th Universe. Assuming all Universes started off in a similar manner, the 5th Universe would be much like the 1st Universe which had no-one arriving from a past Universe, and starting the cycle again. That said, it's not clear what affect the Professor caused by blasting Hitler and Roosevelt leading up to their arrival. Perhaps the 2nd Universe was different in a significant way, removing the time travelers from that universe and only needing 3 Universes in the loop.
@tachrayonic2982
@tachrayonic2982 3 ай бұрын
Actually we could have started from the 2nd Universe too. Perhaps travelers from the 1st Universe shot Roosevelt while passing the 2nd Universe's past, making it the same as the 4th Universe, while the 3rd Universe had Hitler shot by our 2nd Universe Professor in addition to anyone that the 1st Universe travelers shot. In this case: - Travelers depart from the 1st Universe. - Travelers shoot Roosevelt in the 2nd Universe, but overshoot. The group we follow depart the 2nd Universe. - Travelers do whatever they want, and arrive in the 3rd Universe. Our Professor shoots Hitler on the way through, but overshoots. - Our Professor shoots Roosevelt, and then they arrive in the 4th Universe, crushing their copies. There could be any number of additional things happening to Universes 1 and 3, since we don't know how similar their history is to the ones we saw, 2 and 4.
@invisableumbrella
@invisableumbrella 3 ай бұрын
I didn’t know what I was getting into when this appeared in my recommended, but arguing that Fry Futurama is a unique instance of time embodying itself for either agency (the universe needing an avenue to solve problems without tearing itself into holes) or stability purposes (load bearing fool) was not it, and I am not disappointed in the slightest. Cool descent into madness, dude, thanks for putting it on tape.
@hibbs1712
@hibbs1712 2 ай бұрын
*load bearing fool*
@GalileoAV
@GalileoAV 2 ай бұрын
I really like that way of putting it, a "load bearing fool".
@Raid3rFox
@Raid3rFox 4 ай бұрын
The thumbnail is a work of art.
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Had a couple I was working on, but fell in love with this one so I'm glad people like it!
@naotokamigire-terumi9912
@naotokamigire-terumi9912 4 ай бұрын
​@@bennett420I like it too!
@robertmicropenis5114
@robertmicropenis5114 3 ай бұрын
@@bennett420yeah honestly captivated me and made me click on the video, looks like something you'd see from a giant channel, good job man
@40watt53
@40watt53 3 ай бұрын
@@bennett420 I loved at the end too having the reverse orange silhouette of Fry.
@evalinova
@evalinova 3 ай бұрын
​@@bennett420i've watched like 20 episodes tops of Futurama in my life, and i'm here because of your thumbnail. It's good.
@polarbear4696
@polarbear4696 2 ай бұрын
"I watched as the universe began and I watched time run out." Philip J. Fry
@arran4285
@arran4285 4 ай бұрын
When is the next Futurama cult meeting
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
They're 4th dimensional meetings so the scheduling is a nightmare
@bobnewheart1307
@bobnewheart1307 4 ай бұрын
It's the 7th Tuesday of every month. If your time-line doesn't have 7 Tuesdays in any given month, it is likely your time-line has been purposely excluded to keep scheduling consistent for the rest of us. If you still wish to join the meeting every month you must find your own way to and when the meeting takes place. If you have any further questions, please direct them to the me of your appropriate time-line.
@WilliamBrowning
@WilliamBrowning 4 ай бұрын
I thought we had agreed to just have the one meeting on March 28, 1999. We watch/watched the first broadcast together. Requiring time travel keeps the riff raff out.
@DomR1997
@DomR1997 4 ай бұрын
​@@bobnewheart1307this has "report to the magistrate for the shire in which ye dwell" energy.
@marceloscarvalho7159
@marceloscarvalho7159 4 ай бұрын
I'm going to hire a bureocrat just for this...
@GuberYT
@GuberYT 4 ай бұрын
This was one of the most well-researched interpretations of canon put on KZfaq, I love thinking about Futurama in these nuanced ways
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
The irony is I tend to think overcommitment to canon and continuity can do more harm than good, I even made a video about it. And yet, here I am overanalyzing canon lmao
@5omebody
@5omebody 3 ай бұрын
​@@bennett420i think the issue with this analysis is... some of these episodes may not be canon - specifically, some episodes may be either retconned, or simply be considered non-canon by the writers from the very start, but they write the episode anyway because it's fun
@unoriginalusername4416
@unoriginalusername4416 3 ай бұрын
The What-If Machine vignette brings up an interesting point. Whether or not it was accurate to what would happen if Fry destroyed the cryotube or was killed is irrelevant. If the tale of interest is true, then what you said holds up. But if it's not, that means that the idea of what would happen in that case is incalculable, like it was asked to divide by zero. In which case, you're still right: Fry's existence and freezing is necessary to the structure of the universe.
@Ratstail91
@Ratstail91 4 ай бұрын
You know, the scene where he walks super fast due to coffee isn't a time power - it's just the effect of the coffee. I've had to limit myself to a maximum of two coffees a day so I don't go super fast again.
@RobertJW
@RobertJW 3 ай бұрын
We assume the speed is the effect of the coffee. It could instead be true that the coffee unlocks what's actually a time power!
@gonesnake2337
@gonesnake2337 3 ай бұрын
Coffee does speed up my bowel time, so there's some evidence. @@RobertJW
@manboy4720
@manboy4720 3 ай бұрын
@@gonesnake2337 your bowel just TIME TRAVELLED!
@eldesconocidosenork5981
@eldesconocidosenork5981 3 ай бұрын
Maybe YOU are our Fry in our reality, because the closest to a power drinking too much coffe is to evacuate essencially my weight into the toilet. Speaking of powers, we are all familiar with how much the writers tended to take actual phisics into consideration, which implies that Fry not dissolving into dust or breaking apart from all the momentum of moving at such speeds should have an explanation. (Or maybe they just needed a way to end the episode and decided on that)
@vladyvhv9579
@vladyvhv9579 3 ай бұрын
100 "cups" of coffee would outright kill most creatures. Especially since some of those are the "Whale cup". Seriously. The cup counter counted that as 1 cup of coffee. For all we know, Fry might've been able to buy a $3 tanker truck of coffee at some point, but it just isn't shown on camera.
@aonbrogan8266
@aonbrogan8266 3 ай бұрын
I'd just like to point out how satisfied Fry was at riding the Scooty Puff Sr. Even if he was previously erased, he was content with his forsaken self's decision.
@nak3dxsnake
@nak3dxsnake 3 ай бұрын
Scooty puff sr. is a game changer.
@zitzle
@zitzle 3 ай бұрын
For "The Late Philip J. Fry" I always interpreted it as the professor always screws up and creates a gap universe, in which the three of them don't get crushed by the time machine
@sacrificiallamb4568
@sacrificiallamb4568 3 ай бұрын
He later went back there, though, in the new episodes. Sorry.
@MultiTobyProductions
@MultiTobyProductions 3 ай бұрын
For the Back to the Future thing, I always thought of it like this: Chuck Berry wrote Johnny B. Goode, otherwise Marty wouldn't know it. All Marty did was accidentally put himself into the song's timeline, and make his own guitar playing inspiration for the song he's playing. But that's the only change, that Marty is technically part of the song's history. I know the implication of the movie is that Marty inspired it, but I think it's just a slightly altered bootstrap paradox. Rather than Marty going back and becoming Chuck Berry when he discovers Chuck Berry doesn't exist, he just accidentally inspires the song that inspired him.
@arempy5836
@arempy5836 3 ай бұрын
That thumbnail made me think: What about the Y of Fry? I mean, he gets his Y Chromosome from his dad, who gets it from Fry. Like you said about the difference between fry and Kyle Reese, Fry's patrilineal lineage originates from nowhere but himself. Atum in Egyptian mythology is (at least in some versions) the original and ultimate diety who thought himself into existence. Meaning he didn't exist and then he did because he wanted to, even though he couldn't have wanted to because he didn't exist yet. This is called Causa Sui, self-causeing. The way I see it, this is the fundamental miracle of existence. whether you want to personify it as god or rationalize it as the big bang, there had to be a prime mover, an effect without a cause. Even if you reject the idea that time ever began and instead believe that time is an infinite cycle (like in The Late Phillip J. Fry) we are still left asking, "why is there something instead of nothing?" And "why are the laws of the universe what they are and not something else?". It's kinda like that one episode where everything is pixelated and the Professor discovers the fundamental particle of existence. He's upset that there are no more questions to answer until he realizes that there are still metaphysical questions that can never be answered because you can always keep asking "but why?" What I'm getting at is that I think Fry's self creation is this miracle that created the Futurama universe. The timeline starts in the middle and expands forwards and backwards in time. A universe had to exist so that fry could be born into it. All of history from before Roswell That Ends Well had to happen so as to justify the conditions of Fry's self-creation. The Brains are also connected to this Causa Sui idea. They seem to me to be a reference to the concept of the Boltzmann Brain, a thought experiment that suggests that it's more likely for a brain to spontaneously form and just imagine the universe than for the universe itself to spontaneously form. It's a very solipsistic concept but The Brains from Futurama are themselves very solipsistic, viewing the universe as something that only exists to be studied. Fry and the brains are intrinsically linked in that it is the conditions of his own self-creation which makes him immune to their powers. In this way, they too exist to justify Fry's importance to the universe since he saves reality from the brains. The brains need to know everything and this means they will destroy everything to have complete knowledge. Fry is perfectly happy not understanding a damn thing and it's this acceptance that saves the universe. If Fry is the unwitting creator of his universe then that could explain why the world of Futurama is so ridiculous. I think the brains came about at the dawn of time as an attempt by the universe to make sense of its own absurdity. Since reality is inherently absurd, the brains can never succeed in their goal without destroying the universe in the process. Fry the father (of Yancy) Fry the son (of Yancy) Fry the holy spirit (god satellite/ time code)
@Furtuim
@Furtuim 3 ай бұрын
the explanation at 12m is effectively King Crimson explained lol
@paulrhome6164
@paulrhome6164 4 ай бұрын
You opened with my favorite joke of the entire series.
@jordankeller4253
@jordankeller4253 4 ай бұрын
He ended with one of mine!
@Maethendias
@Maethendias 3 ай бұрын
i love futurama so much its what, 20 years and people STILL FIND NEW THINGS TO DISCOVER ABOUT THE FCKING SHOW holy shit
@middlefin383
@middlefin383 4 ай бұрын
Reality itself is seemingly altered by beings capable of perceiving it, existing and observing the flow of time inherently causing time itself to exist. Therefore in order to make a substantial change to the flow of time, that perception would have to be altered. Assuming the timeline is linear, time travel by physical means would have always happened(observed), but a change made in the present to the past(unobserved) may carry enough momentum to switch which "present" we reside in.
@TheTolnoc
@TheTolnoc 3 ай бұрын
12:15 I'm so glad Futurama took the time out to explain how King Crimson works.
@Enjun38
@Enjun38 2 ай бұрын
Ending this video with Fry's exploits in 300 Big Ones was one of the best punchlines I've ever experienced. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
@ChibiTails
@ChibiTails 4 ай бұрын
"Time made a fool for all of us" is an outstanding closing line. Though, shouldn't it be "for us all"?
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
lmao I basically wrote the video around that line and I had it misremembered this whole time. You're 100% right, that's the actual phrase. Fry even says it at one point. The first schism in the cult of Fry will be between those who say "all of us" vs "us all" lol I can see it now. Also thanks for watching!
@0ans4ar-mu
@0ans4ar-mu 4 ай бұрын
no you see, the fool time made for all of us is Fry@@bennett420
@david2869
@david2869 Ай бұрын
And Phillip J Fry is that fool!
@Sollace
@Sollace 4 ай бұрын
15:10 You're not really interpreting the forward-only time travel correctly. Time isn't looping, the universe is. There is no paradox, no alternate timeline. The events in the universe still exists in the past on the same timeline and will always exist as events during the period in which that universe existed. Additionally the time machine isn't "always" in that spot. It inhabits one 4D position as it slides along the 4th (time). It won't any other time machines, even if they're on the exact spacial location, will not interact because the one from the next universe is always one universe-length of time ahead, and the previous one is one universe-length of time behind. It's like a giant game of musical chairs played along the 4th dimension.
@jonathantanner7083
@jonathantanner7083 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! This was so frustrating to hear him completely miss the point on this.
@jacketgames6921
@jacketgames6921 4 ай бұрын
I like the knot theory it makes a lot of sense
@wille.g.2510
@wille.g.2510 3 ай бұрын
it does knot
@playerkit
@playerkit 3 ай бұрын
Does it knot?
@Cri_Jackal
@Cri_Jackal 4 ай бұрын
Homestuck, that series that had a large and direct influence on Undertale, also melds multiple time travel methods into a single narrative. Terminator rules are the main method, but the Back to The Future rules have a unique role. The timeline _is_ technically free to branch off into alternate timelines, over and over, but eventually, most of the time, these timelines end up reaching back around and becoming part of the main timeline, the alternate branches always existed, they simply roll back into the Alpha Timeline via someone eventually going back to instigate its continuation. The timelines that don't end up simply fading into irrelevancy, since they don't roll back around into the main one we follow. Homestuck, however, has a third method, that only exists due to the fact its a piece of fiction, with its future pages not yet being written, being an in-universe fact. At one point in the story, we have a gap in time where material hasn't yet been written by the author, we already know that the setting in the future is directly connected to the past due to it taking place on the same Earth, with objecrs strewn about that we know characters in the "past" setting are responsible for, but how point A got to point B wasn't written yet. Enter the main character, John, getting the power of literal author retcon, using said ability to rewrite the story by altering key points, for the purpose of saving all his friends. All his friends and allies dying didn't contradict the future we had been shown, it would make perfect sense for the story to continue naturally into that setting chronologically, but again, Homestuck being a work of fiction, with pieces of its history not existing, due to not yet being concretely written, is a fact of the universe, which enables John to use his newfound abilty to alter the story into a version of itself where all his friends are alive, while still also being a course of events that continues logically into that already established future.
@neon_spotlight
@neon_spotlight 2 ай бұрын
What would you say fry's class is, seeing as he's obviously a time player under this idea?
@Cri_Jackal
@Cri_Jackal 2 ай бұрын
@@neon_spotlight Probably Muse of Time since he's essentially the polar opposite of Lord English with his relationship to time. If not a Muse, then a Page.
@akiradkcn
@akiradkcn 2 ай бұрын
Homestuck was really.... Ahead its time
@elfinfob
@elfinfob 4 ай бұрын
I've never seen Futurama but I understood everything you talked about because your just good at this. I was expecting 5-10k subs but alas no. You my dear friend are underrated
@ishill85
@ishill85 4 ай бұрын
so two points: the forward time ship, they miss the universe on the first loop and have to catch it on the second pass. this means that the future where leela runs planet express can happen eveyother timeline. so it's not necessarily a mistake to be corrected, but a repeating pattern still. secondly, i feel the need to note another character from a different sci-fi humor series; red dwarf. the main character in that, one dave lister the last human, is his own father. he describes to his son that they are a paradox that means humans will always exist, a continuing infinite timeloop. No other significant similarities to the two i can think off, he might have also terminator rules influenced his own fate but i don't recall for sure off the top of my head, but i thought it an interesting note.
@VinluvAntonHandesbukia
@VinluvAntonHandesbukia 4 ай бұрын
In Red Dwarf,lister is technically the (confirmed conscious) universe’s way of eternally preserving the human race and preventing it from definitively going extinct ever again. Even when he is forcefully removed from the timeline the “better version” of himself still lines up enough to fill the roll. Lister’s loop is more self contained and isn’t designed for any greater purpose outside of preservation. While Fry became the Professors direct ancestor,ensuring the existence of the forwards Time Machine.
@SethbotStar
@SethbotStar 3 ай бұрын
The Loop could probably be: build the time machine and go to the end of the universe -> miss the universe accidentally -> Kill their copies -> build the time machine
@razer3046
@razer3046 4 ай бұрын
Love the video, I always thought that fry did break the timeline when he killed his grandfather but it corrected itself with him conceiving his father or whatever, breaking the timeline by having too many of a person results in deaths to make it correct again, fry killed his grandfather but existed in the correct time and place for him to still exist by becoming his own grandfather and stabilizing it, not on purpose but in the same way that random things coincidentally fell on people to resolve the timeline in benders big score. your interpretation of it is super interesting as well, great video!!
@dasirrlicht5415
@dasirrlicht5415 3 ай бұрын
Remember, the forwards only machine had the middle timeline altered by shooting someone along the way and someone different in the one they actually end in. So the loop is maybe not just one big bang, but includes multiple consecutive universes until it lines up again.
@carmillawoo6505
@carmillawoo6505 2 ай бұрын
I only noticed right at the end of this video that we're watching this through the what if machine. Bravo.
@jimshotfirst4887
@jimshotfirst4887 Ай бұрын
Holy shit you're right!
@Sillykat420
@Sillykat420 Ай бұрын
Man, you really didn't have to phrase it as "giving grandma Mildred a cream pie"
@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842
@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842 2 ай бұрын
I'm just happy this show existed and made my teenage years brighter with its humour, imagination and clever plots.
@LibertarianLeninistRants
@LibertarianLeninistRants Ай бұрын
videos like this are what the Internet was made for
@rebekahanne80
@rebekahanne80 4 ай бұрын
I am so glad I’ve found this channel! I’ve been a lifelong fan of futurama and I love watching content about it on KZfaq! This might be my new favorite thing for the next couple of months
@b.sanchez530
@b.sanchez530 3 ай бұрын
Fry is the time exploring himself to see him again from both perspectives him time, and him in time
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 3 ай бұрын
Isn't that Shiva?
@thomaswalsh4552
@thomaswalsh4552 2 ай бұрын
The forward’s Time Machine episode isn’t a number of different timelines or universes or anything like that, it’s just moving forwards in time, normally, just at great speed. The solution is that the universe collapses and then re-erupts over and over in a cycle, which repeats itself nearly exactly. All the stuff that happened during their run throughs did actually happen, it’s just in the past now.
@funkyfox7996
@funkyfox7996 2 ай бұрын
that point where fry's paradox ended the universe is probably the strongest point in the video
@keterclassentity6716
@keterclassentity6716 3 ай бұрын
I watch a lot of long form stuff on youtube but I usually cut out halfway through cause it isn't engaging enough. this is top tier content watched all the way through, good job. subbed, keep it up
@corkel
@corkel 4 ай бұрын
man this is so unnecessarily brilliant, bravo
@tracyh5751
@tracyh5751 3 ай бұрын
The fact that the whole discussion is framed inside the what-if machine. Damn, man. A nice detail.
@hicamelcapi8963
@hicamelcapi8963 8 күн бұрын
Dude, this is the best video I've ever seen. Hands down. Thank you for the love to Futurama you put into this
@owenleach9368
@owenleach9368 4 ай бұрын
This is way more in depth than I ever thought we could go into Futurama theory, and I'm here for it.
@insertyourfeelingshere8106
@insertyourfeelingshere8106 4 ай бұрын
It was written by mathematicians and physicists. I always assumed there was more going on. Just didn't bother looking into it.
@Ona1979
@Ona1979 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see more videos from this channel
@MaxApocalypticGaming
@MaxApocalypticGaming 3 ай бұрын
One of the best video essays I’ve ever seen. Great job!
@LilianMSReaper
@LilianMSReaper 3 ай бұрын
Absolute banger of a video. Solid cadence and delivery and excellently put together. Very entertaining and got me thinking about time in groovy ways.
@controllerpleb6568
@controllerpleb6568 4 ай бұрын
Only made it halfway through the video cuz I don't want spoilers but it's a great video so far!
@jordankeller4253
@jordankeller4253 4 ай бұрын
This was a very well done, nicely written, and thoughtfully researched video! It was awesome! I live for this kinda stuff. I disagree with the notion of the Late Philip J. Fry portraying a sort of reset of time rather than a linear, straight shot to a reset of the _universe_ itself, or rather a new universe, but I read your reply on another comment and honestly, I do think it's completely valid to leave up to interpretation. One of the very few things that bothered me about Futurama were the inconsistent, contrasting concepts of time being used in different episodes. I'm glad now that there's a good theory I can wrap my head around and consider my new headcanon. It adds up. Great video, I'm happy to subscribe.
@2782Jack
@2782Jack 2 ай бұрын
That bit about the universe not existing without fry really convinced me because every other time the timeline breaks the mistake is just deleted from reality, like nixon's opponent or the benders, but if reality itself can't exist without fry then the only way to ''correct' the timeline at that point is to delete everything that can't exist without fry's actions, which is the universe itself
@RealWolfmanDan
@RealWolfmanDan Ай бұрын
I really really really really really really enjoyed this video thank you for sharing your overwhelming passion for this topic with the rest of us
@franklondon3464
@franklondon3464 4 ай бұрын
absolutely phenomenal video
@moosecannibal8224
@moosecannibal8224 4 ай бұрын
If time makes a fool of all of us, then it only fits the only one able to "fool" time, is a fool like Fry
@snfaulkner
@snfaulkner 17 күн бұрын
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
@gabby222themoon
@gabby222themoon 4 ай бұрын
A whole channel dedicated to futurama videos ??? Subbed.
@khronikos4622
@khronikos4622 4 ай бұрын
You deserve more subs and likes, great work!
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Very much appreciated, we'll get those numbers up there, the channel is still very new.
@CHSID777
@CHSID777 4 ай бұрын
This is the best video I have seen in a while, great job. Plus 25:52 is just so funny to me
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@kadoharp
@kadoharp 2 ай бұрын
Didn’t know I needed Futurama video essays but here we are. I’m gonna binge watch every video on this channel now
@naefaren3515
@naefaren3515 3 ай бұрын
Dang, I was so invested in this vid but I had to stop at 16:00 when you started talking about spoilers for something I haven't watched. Seems interesting and I gotta check it out now
@chaossin7425
@chaossin7425 4 ай бұрын
Philip J Fry, a Time Lord?
@PapaLuge
@PapaLuge 4 ай бұрын
Sick Thumbnail
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
Oh hell yeah, thanks! I went back and forth with a bunch of versions of it. This was like best case scenario for the first comment the video got lmao
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 4 ай бұрын
@@bennett420 I haven't watched the video yet - it seemed too long and, for that reason among others, too deep for me to watch it when I could have; I wasn't really able to concentrate enough at the time - but is the thumbnail referencing that "The Why of Fry" is in his brain in the form of the Delta brain wave?
@PapaLuge
@PapaLuge 3 ай бұрын
​@@bennett420Fits Futurama perfectly, as a really cool concept with a lot of Layers and Depth to it when you look deeper into it ❤p
@tomgrus604
@tomgrus604 13 күн бұрын
This was absolutely brilliant! Thanks!
@Spanyrd
@Spanyrd 3 ай бұрын
I love the thought exercise. Great video and very interesting. Keep it up.
@obilesk
@obilesk 4 ай бұрын
..and that fucking opal lmao. subbed
@Willwantstobeawesome
@Willwantstobeawesome 4 ай бұрын
Jesus isn't a demigod because he is fully man, fully god
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 4 ай бұрын
Jesus is a double being, then?
@garshtoshteles
@garshtoshteles 4 ай бұрын
Imagine thinking the chalcedonian definition actually makes sense and wasn't just a bandaid on the number of heresies occurring at the time
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I understand that's how the religion works, that's my point?
@FoggyWall
@FoggyWall 3 ай бұрын
I've had this thought before, having seen the show several times now, I'm glad to see someone put this thought to video. thanks :D
@YJOA
@YJOA 3 ай бұрын
This is now my new favorite video of Futurama
@cliffordcrimson7124
@cliffordcrimson7124 4 ай бұрын
Jesus is both God and man. It's not 50/50, but 100/100.
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
I understand that is the belief, that's why I picked him for comparison. The term used is "God-Man" fully God and fully man. Like Fry, who is fully Time and fully man.
@jazxfirenump8331
@jazxfirenump8331 3 ай бұрын
stopped watching, heresy :/
@TheKordLDurham
@TheKordLDurham 2 ай бұрын
Lol heresy? What part?
@jazxfirenump8331
@jazxfirenump8331 2 ай бұрын
@@TheKordLDurhamjesus from the bible best wishes
@chaoslord8918
@chaoslord8918 Ай бұрын
This is a really well-made video, with an implausible amount of clever wordplay and Futurama references. At 33:20 "...but that's not the only time the Nibblonians *pontificate* on Fry's brainwaves." I don't know what's worse: the fact that you made this reference, or the fact that I got it right away.
@internet_introvert
@internet_introvert 3 ай бұрын
This was a really good video. I'll enjoy watching it 40 years ago.
@SamanBahrampoor
@SamanBahrampoor 4 ай бұрын
Boy I loved this video. I never thought of Fry like that. But you make a lot of sense :)
@bennett420
@bennett420 4 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! I used to think of him as just the Time Travel Trope Caricature, but when I started pulling at treads it went so much deeper lol
@user-qq9xu9le5u
@user-qq9xu9le5u 3 ай бұрын
found your channel through this video i love it please schiz out more
@mattstrandquist2148
@mattstrandquist2148 3 ай бұрын
That was sick, bro. Well done!
@Claego
@Claego Ай бұрын
RIght, now I gotta watch the new season. There really is nothing quite like the writing behind Futurama! Good vid
@stylonide
@stylonide 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant vid, keen to check out your other videos on Futurama. Subbed
@EvelynNdenial
@EvelynNdenial 3 ай бұрын
the alternate timeline with leela taking over planet express could be an alternating rather than alternate timeline. the universe switches between the two one after another forever.
@joed7547
@joed7547 3 ай бұрын
Ah Fry the best Bootstrap Paradox out there. Really enjoyed your take on him and what he could be by this point.
@martixbche5339
@martixbche5339 2 ай бұрын
Wow -- many valid observations and easter eggs/correlation I had never realized or observed myself..
@_Devil
@_Devil 3 ай бұрын
Fry represents a dilemma we all have where we sometimes really want to go back in time when we were younger and had things easier. But did Fry really have it better back then than he did in the future? In 2000, Fry has a shitty job, with a terrible family, and a cheating girlfriend. In 3000, he has the opposite of all those things. He has a relatively good job (in comparison), he has a large loving family even if the Professor is the only one who's blood related to Fry, and he has a loyal badass girlfriend who would risk life and limb for him. I think what it all comes down to is fear of the unknown. We have no idea who tomorrow entails, and to an extent is scares us because we're so used to what we knew from yesterday.
@gameoverlordN7
@gameoverlordN7 Ай бұрын
Any other show I would say "You are looking way to hard into this" But it IS Futurama so it was 110% done on purpose.
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 Ай бұрын
That was brilliant. I'll watch that again yesterday.
@coolowen7
@coolowen7 3 ай бұрын
This is the best Futurama video on KZfaq!
@renno2679
@renno2679 Ай бұрын
Amazing video honestly. Any other content creator would have summarised the events of entire episodes instead of actually explaining things. This is a masterpiece.
@oneeGrimm
@oneeGrimm 3 ай бұрын
TIME to rewatch this fantastic, brilliant, magnificent show.
@matyasnagy8722
@matyasnagy8722 3 ай бұрын
wow that was so good, keep up the good work man!
@anon-kun5418
@anon-kun5418 2 ай бұрын
With regards to the episode late phillip j fry, its still linear. Fry, bender, and the professor always go forward in time and loop around, missing their target in the first loop and landing on themselves in the second. The loops alternate between them disappearing and them landing on themselves. This follows because time cannot be linear (a line) definitionally if it ends, so it must stretch forever. the universe beginning and ending is half of one loop in this regard.
@YippingFox
@YippingFox 3 ай бұрын
Time travel always just turn into linear multiverse time travel. You can jump between any line of time but each line of time requires you to have time jumped between the different lines just the way you did since you can't change a line of time, which means that you jumping between lines of time is all just a big line of time on itself.
@67kemo
@67kemo Ай бұрын
Wish I could say "excellent", but that would such a huge understatement. Love the perspective on my favorite show.
@dabo9016
@dabo9016 Ай бұрын
This video is AWESOME!!!
@Draconic_Whispers
@Draconic_Whispers 2 ай бұрын
this absolutely blew my mind, at first I had thought there could be no way it was believable, but this video was convincing
@dervakommtvonhinten517
@dervakommtvonhinten517 Ай бұрын
VERY cool video. well worth my time
@Neil_Hyman
@Neil_Hyman 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this great video. I have watched all of Futurama many times but now I have also joined the Cult of Fry! All Hail Fry, A fool for us all😆
@Smthn_Wicked
@Smthn_Wicked 3 ай бұрын
The fact that many people think Philip J Fry is dead (went missing and presumed dead then brother took his name and died too) makes most of his worries fall away, being this thing that shouldn't even be here but somehow is
@thiagof414
@thiagof414 2 ай бұрын
This was awesome! Thank you!
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