Philips Fidelio X3 _(Z Reviews)_ An Accounting Problem
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@artof.deception 3 жыл бұрын
dms says x2/x2hr is total shit. talk to him. make something with him))
@artof.deception 3 жыл бұрын
x3 vs k712?
@lessormore 3 жыл бұрын
are x3 weight exactlly the same as x2????? i dont get it. manuals says 380 both. is it true???
@sexbeat 3 жыл бұрын
@@stringbreaker87 Z answers only for $?
@terraincognitagaming 3 жыл бұрын
I got the X3s today. And they seem noticably uhm lesser, in the low end, like, less, impactful and not as deep. rtings seem to confirm this, also seem worse in treble and midrange based off of their comparison with the X2HR.
@FriedEgg101 3 жыл бұрын
I was never bothered by the background noise in your old place, but I really notice how quiet your new room is. It's nice.
@EliteOpZA 3 жыл бұрын
In short: the X2 HR's sound almost exactly the same : "20 minutes blind test with these I would have a hard time telling them apart" and they (x2's) are more than half cheaper and have a better cable. Thanks, I'm skipping the x3's for sure👍
@buster7618 3 жыл бұрын
bUt ThE x3 L0okS bEtTeRrRr
@MykeBinaryMan 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know what cable hes using on the X2's? I'm not sure where to find it or maybe I have the wrong name for it.
@seulgisglassofcoke5703 3 жыл бұрын
X3 here are the same price as X2 here rn
@HEADSHOTPROLOL 3 жыл бұрын
@@seulgisglassofcoke5703 yeah same here lmao
@oJuno-_- 3 жыл бұрын
@@seulgisglassofcoke5703 Bruh where do you live I need a new pair of headphones after my cat chewed my damn cables
@stringstorm 3 жыл бұрын
That cable incompatibility alone is a massive deal breaker. Its basically a baby step towards priorietary connectors.
@3a.m.284 2 жыл бұрын
They're $160 now on Amazon, and I still won't buy them because of that cable problem alone
@Winp3nalty 9 ай бұрын
@3a.m.284 Still the same problem after 3 years.... They cost the same as the X2hr but no one is selling a replacement cable for them.... Unacceptable. ( I bought the X2hr instead)
@paradox... 3 жыл бұрын
Balanced is nice and all but damn, X2HR + Vmoda boom pro mic is a match made in heaven! Love mine!
@squidwardstesticles5914 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve been using shp9500’s with a boom pro for about 4 years and I’ve never been happier with a headset
@joemacafee7655 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you, running the same setup... What DAC/AMP are you running it on?
@astro0125 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible set up for gaming, absolutely incredible
@modelotime3608 3 жыл бұрын
X2s with vmoda is my setup as well its nice as heck
@xS0JUx 3 жыл бұрын
Running the same thing off a Schiit Hel DAC/AMP and the Dekoni suede pads. This is my END GAME for my PC. Love it
@BurittoSandwich 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that they spent all that time to add in leather, and not add caps to the glued ends of the headband is ridiculous. Zeos even started lifting the leather off the headband so easily in the unboxing.
@gnd144 3 жыл бұрын
TY for doing the gear list Z & Pastah, its always appreciated. Cheers.
@uhgungawa4574 3 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI, Hart Audio made me a similar cable for my Monolith M560 easy peasy
@Tallnerdyguy 3 жыл бұрын
Same cable for Sundara
@miguelorcinha 3 жыл бұрын
After following your advice a couple of years ago on a not so comproming (price-wise) good IEM and buying the TIN T2's and enjoying them thoroughly (still...), I decided to make the leap into a pair of good heaphones. I was looking on the 100€ range and after a long time researching (on your website too), took the leap on a pair of Phillips Fidelio X2HR. Holy shit.... All I can say is thank you, again.
@CoffeeGameMovie 11 ай бұрын
The price is irrevelant in long term in THAT DEPTH as we hear this video... Like, for now the X3 had a drastic price drop, its 100$ in my country.... So i just say, that sound, how it sounds is much more important cuz its a permament thing, while the price is just termporary and dynamic with time.
@noenken 3 жыл бұрын
I almost ordered the X3 but then I thought let's see what Zeos thinks. Just ordered X2HRs to replace my broken X2s. You saved me 100,- Euros and the hassle of dealing with that silly cable situation. Big THANK YOU! :)
@rob8311 3 жыл бұрын
Nice place Zeos, havent seen videos since your move, nice to be watching them again
@RileyxRopes 3 жыл бұрын
Really loving the quietness of the new house but I will miss your traffic pauses mid rant lol. You should check out My Morning Jackets new album The Waterfall II I think its up your alley!
@Lilvanpop 3 жыл бұрын
First song Z is rocking to is Mac Miller?! Didn't know you had him in the library, love it
@phillipnunya6793 3 жыл бұрын
I was considering these. And then I watched this video. I will look into these again when Philips fixes these easy problems.
@CaveyMoth 3 жыл бұрын
All I can say is X3 I love the X2HR calibrated by Sonarworks Reference 4. There's so much artificiality in the treble that's just completely changed when calibration is enabled.
@EverythingisFire 3 жыл бұрын
Wow..It's been a while since I've watched a review. I'm going to have to catch up with the house tour!
@Sonchuo 3 жыл бұрын
Man I am so glad for my X2s.
@madf00bar15 3 жыл бұрын
X2s were two fiddy when I bought mine. They are a steal at $145. Loving the basement.
@7napoleon 3 жыл бұрын
Again....congrats on your new house!!!!!
@Scottua 3 жыл бұрын
Baklava? lmao, who'd wear a pastry on their head?! Pretty sure you meant Balaklava.
@TonkyTronicus 3 жыл бұрын
he probably showers with a falafel too
@xmunki1389 3 жыл бұрын
Already have the X2HR, so I'm good.
@ht8138 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I watched this video bought x2hr for 115 vs 255 for these
@xmunki1389 3 жыл бұрын
@@ht8138 yeah, x2 are amazing value at 115
@Zelldinchtjr 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought mine yesterday for $95 off amazon, woot!
@ht8138 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zelldinchtjr your gonna love it!
@Zelldinchtjr 3 жыл бұрын
@@ht8138 It came in yesterday and boy, oh, boy. It's goooood. I wonder how the sennheiser 560s sounds, though.
@desg8087 3 жыл бұрын
I like the look of the X3's better but I don't think they sound better. There is a treble peak in the X2's that bothers me sometimes and I find myself turning the volume down occasionally because of it (and I'm a Beyer fan). I like the X2's overall but they aren't my favorites. I find the X3's to be brighter, sibilant and with less bass which makes the balance even worse. But that's just my opinion based on my X2's compared to the X3's that I borrowed. I'm sure there will be plenty of people who find the X3's to be a sonic improvement.
@TheEquinoxeHD 3 жыл бұрын
I think I might like them. Love my X2/00's but I'vs always found them bit too bassy.
@ryandacus 3 жыл бұрын
Great advice to wait....because now they are only $199 on Amazon. Now is the time to snag some up! I think I am going to buy some at the discounted price. I have the X2HR which I really enjoy listening to. Based on your review it certainly makes sense at the price of $199 as it seems you had good things to say about them besides the price. Obviously somebody at Phillips is paying attention possibly took your advice and decided to drop the price right here at the best time to do so. Thanks for a great review Zeos
@Boorock70 3 жыл бұрын
Fidelio X2HR : YES ! - Durable, cheaper, sounds amazing... and NO rivals @ that price tag ! Fidelio X3 : NO ! - Too much marketing gimmicks: real leather shit, un-standart cable inputs , grey-ish cloth that will get dirty by even looking at, unleashed hell @ that price tag ! Fidelio X3-S : Maybe... - If only they decide to correct those caveats and go cheaper...!
@ZReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Xduoo with their XD-05 Basic did pricing right. That review is coming.
@stringbreaker87 3 жыл бұрын
Feel like I have to mention this everywhere lol they are 100 bucks off on Amazon right now.
@andreipetrov7910 2 жыл бұрын
I build my own short adapter for right side with correct polarity and it fixed all problems with standard non X3 cables.
@HiFiGOAudio 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review!! The X3 looks super premium with a superb build quality but what is your opinion about the SHP9600??
@semineubrasov5187 3 жыл бұрын
Pairs well with Fiio BTR3k with the included 2.5mm balanced cable. Needs just a little eq bump in the lower part. Verry comfy cans!
@luedriver 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Tyll would make a review of these
@lastweekslightning 3 жыл бұрын
I own the original X2 and paid like $240 so when I saw the "revised" versions for like $145 I told my buddy about them. He ordered them and I spent hours trying to find a difference. There is none. Same detachable pads, same driver, same cable, same everything except his packaging had a gold hifi sticker on it. That's it.
@FatSacks 3 жыл бұрын
Hey that’s not true. It also says HIGH RESOLUTION or some other bs on the metal lol.
@lastweekslightning 3 жыл бұрын
@@FatSacks yeah that was my bad by saying hifi and not high resolution. Haha!
@CaveyMoth 3 жыл бұрын
The earpads are a lot different in the X2HR model..really stiff. And the headband has a smaller circumference. I think I hear more treble out of the X2HR, but that's probably the earpads making less of a seal.
@jesuguru2394 3 жыл бұрын
I had the X2's for a little while, loved the tone (bass-heavy open-back? YES!) but returned them due to driver imbalance. Then bought the X2HR's, they seem a little brighter, and a little less of the bass "slam" of the original X2's. A nice sound signature, but lacking a little something from the originals. At least no imbalance. I'll keep them, but looking for something a little better.
@miagi1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@jesuguru2394 If you want some of the slam back, ifi ZenDAC TRUEBASS. It barely changes the tonality on the X2HR but makes Bass-Kicks harder and dryer. It's like a high/low-gain switch for low frequency on this headphone.
@marcopdenoordt3984 3 жыл бұрын
Got the X2HR in July after looking at all reviews. I guess I even looked 3 times at Zeos his review. At the time, I knew these X3s were coming but I reasoned that the launch price would be high and that Phillips choose a new direction. And honestly I liked the price of the X2 HR then and was extremely curious for the sound. Guess Philips has some homework to do for the X3 gen2... for now I’m delighted with my X2HRs.
@miagi1337 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same for me. Was thinking about buying a headphone, had a few pairs on my wish list, but then noticed a deal for the X2HR and out of a "they are going to be replaced probably discontinued soon" and "oh that is a good price" momentum just ordered X2HR. Couldn't be happier with em, love on first tone playing music. I'm not using em for gaming though but music all the time, for me they are very comfortable so also very welcome for videos(yt, series, movies) too.
@vartkez187 2 жыл бұрын
The x2hr also has real leather wrapped around the metal headband. Says so in the booklets that come with the headphones.
@josebiging6788 8 ай бұрын
I own these and what I did was I took the headphone apart (the first day I got it) and switched the right headphones leads in the jack to match actual regular cables. Still work great and I do love them beyond that extra little problem.
@TheHulksMistress 8 ай бұрын
Have you happened to have tried the HD560S? I’m wondering how the tuning compares between those and these. My perfect headphone would be the HD560S tuning with X3/X2HR soundstage
@josebiging6788 8 ай бұрын
@@TheHulksMistress I haven't unfortunately, my choice was between the hd600 and these, I have yet to be able to hear them
@narturd94 3 жыл бұрын
Heyyooo, I am currently watching these on X3's while I watched this on my X2's before they broke (not HR) gonna say it is a pretty decent upgrade- love the clarity, and openess of them. BUT I do agree for the price tag, wish they were 250ish, its a bit of an upgrade but I wanted to upgrade since my X2's retired after 4 years of service (Right side completely broke off + cutting the wire)
@narturd94 3 жыл бұрын
PS I got em for 300, a 100 more than when I got my X2's
@RUMBLEGO1 3 жыл бұрын
Will be looking forward to hearing these when they hit the $99 price that the X2HR's hit last year before Christmas. I am a patient man....haha. I really did like your sound demo of these X3's. Should probably be looking at the Sivga Phoenix though for a different flava.
@RUMBLEGO1 3 жыл бұрын
Scratch that.....i just listened back and forth to your demos of the Phoenix and the X3's. Prefer the X3's.
@Jutang1992 3 жыл бұрын
Im listening to this with my Fidelio X2HR which has a vmoda boompro mic plugged into it and going through a sennheiser gsx 1200. Best audio setup for gaming. Thanks to your recommendations in the past Zeo! Cheers man.
@KloVnPT 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same setup except the gsx 1200, it's plugged in directly to the pc. Is there a substancial difference?
@Jutang1992 3 жыл бұрын
@@KloVnPT The GSX1000 and 1200 are amps. Not the most powerful amps though but they definitely make a difference. One of the main selling points for them though are their gamer centric options like micmonitoring and separating game audio from chat audio (with a separate volume wheel for each). But the best feature has to be the surround sound setting that it offers. Its not a gimmick, it works amazingly well for competitive gaming. It's expensive though.
@Ton-uy1xd 3 жыл бұрын
There's way better if you wanna pay up lol
@Jutang1992 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ton-uy1xd im sure there is but this is enough for now haha. For context, i upgraded to this setup from an Astro A50 gaming headset. So the improvement was substantial.
@chrisr8244 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jutang1992 Yeah man just keep your setup. The shine of the senn gsx is their DSP. Your setup will be good for years to come.
@OntarioGuy430 3 жыл бұрын
Basement is coming together. Definitely need more monitors with 'various' wallpapers in the background - or a large projector screen.
@olegknowsbest4971 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, thats the Marantz legacy there. Just got a hold on some NOS Philips bt speakers from the time they used Marantz know how. So good...
@missor8324 2 жыл бұрын
Got both i love HR3 more but only with the earpads you reviewd
@skreeog 2 жыл бұрын
Got the X2HR for 90 bucks new. Love them :P
@exarkunn69 3 жыл бұрын
When the X2 came out and when I first saw your channel it was around 300 bucks. 3 years later its not 145, I can wait lol.
@stringbreaker87 3 жыл бұрын
These are $100 off on Amazon right now..
@victoro5680 3 жыл бұрын
150$ off now, probably just because they’re selling horribly
@Wen6543 3 жыл бұрын
What? Oh my fucking God, it sucks so bad to live in a country like mine when you want good prices.
@Peremptor 3 жыл бұрын
I rather spend those 200 bucks on some used cans with a different sound signature than a marginal upgrade on the x2hr sound myself. That's these can's problems their little brother are too good haha.
@frankautiwele3810 3 жыл бұрын
I think i remember you mentioning the sound stage of the x2hr's being one of the closest things to hd800 or something like that. Feel like if they really made a massive jump in the original price of those, to this, they should've been more cognizant and aware of what it should actually be trying to accomplish if anything. Its strange the hd800 is a dynamic and not a planar. But this is a dynamic too. So it should've had a clear idea of what to try and beat. But otherwise, competing with itself it shouldn't really warrant a big price bracket increase.
@TonyMusicArts 3 жыл бұрын
I bought these $199 on Amazon. These are superb after 28 hours of break in... Bravo Philips
@TonyMusicArts Жыл бұрын
@@Butch_Deezlsteak are you serious ??? Digital ? Correct -A moving Coil instrument- you are clueless
@TonyMusicArts Жыл бұрын
@@Butch_Deezlsteak Sorry you are so clueless
@TonyMusicArts Жыл бұрын
@@Butch_Deezlsteak lol-SAD reply... Buy you a new car and run the hell out of it without break in... a SOLID WOOFER is ZERO difference. Play it LOUD and ruin it... I certainly don't give a sh*t about you or your opinions. BLOW your engine and your driver. be well pal
@TonyMusicArts Жыл бұрын
@@Butch_Deezlsteak bye -best of life
@rudy_dstroys1821 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a second pair of X2. I have the OG X2 and now have the X2HR, just because I need a back up ☺️. I also have a brand new X1 still in its box lol.
@pgohearn 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my pair for 170, thanks for the tips.
@rookless4121 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely worth it at that price. Not at 300+ though...
@koerel 3 жыл бұрын
These were 50% off at a local electronics store so I jumped on them. Now I have a reason to make myself another custom headphone cable 😄
@koerel 3 жыл бұрын
Okay so after a few days of having them I can say this. I'm a bit treble sensitive and find them quite sibilant stock. Did some measurements on my E.A.R.S rig and they seem to have a big treble boost centered around 8k, so I thought I'd try the ol' toilet paper mod to try and tame it a bit and it actually worked out great. Tried it with both one and two sheets behind each pad, but two sheets made them sound a bit muffled. One sheet sounded just right to me, actually surprisingly neutral. I can be a bit of a basshead as well so I also EQ'd them a little, turned out they sound great with the same EQ profile I use for my HD650s (low-shelf 110 Hz, +2.0dB, Q-value 0.7). Also made myself a nice 4ft balanced cable with a 4-pin XLR connector, with blue sleeving for the left side and red for right, to make it easier to tell which side is which. Hate the stock cables and the 2.5mm balanced is just insanity, as Z pointed out. I should mention I currently power them with my Aune X7s, so the high output impedance might mess with the frequency response a bit. But I have a Topping A90 coming in so we'll see if they sound any different on that. So far I'm really happy with them. I can definitely see these become my daily driver for a while.
@user-rr1oj8zz2g 3 жыл бұрын
I have compared hd650, byerdynamic 660, shure1840, r70x, a50x. In the end I chose between them and r70x and chose FIdelio x3, they did it all!
@DKTD23 2 жыл бұрын
With these down to 165 on Amazon it seems like a great value finally.
@delta9k 3 жыл бұрын
I have the X2HR's and Sivga 004's - was thinking about these but, I am leaning towards the Sivga Phoenix for my next set.
@mattrismatt 3 жыл бұрын
Before you buy another headphone, I suggest you exchange your 004's stock pads with these $15 soft flannel pads available on Amazon: B07T7W2Q15. I think you'll be impressed. For full disclosure, I haven't heard this headphone/pads combo, but I have heard the 004 and own these pads and know how they generally affect the sound of headphones. Please let me know the results.
@TonkyTronicus 3 жыл бұрын
The X2HR is one of my favorite headphones I own but feel like Phillips is pullin a Loch Ness monster on us with this "I'm-a need about tree fiddy" business.
@PerfmonX64 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'll stick to my X2HR. I've got mine setup with an ES100 plugged directly into it with a male 3.5mm to male 3.5 mm adapter. They make a pretty good set of wireless headphones.
@st200ol 3 жыл бұрын
Get a short 2.5mm to 3.5mm balanced cable and you can use the ES100's balanced O/P too. That's what I do. :-)
@selbi182 3 жыл бұрын
Are the pads interchangable between X2 and X3? Because if they are I might just find the new ones and put them on my ol' reliable X2.
@GabrielPurziani Жыл бұрын
(english + spanish) 100% agree with everything you say , my bad mood when I see silly details like the bad finish of the glued leather, the long cables "hard and uncomfortable" and difficult to replace, their hot pads that itch in my ears (although a little better than my X2 HR) have made me think about returning my X3s to amazon, but then I remember I paid u$130 for them and realize I can invest a little more in a good cable on aliexpress plus a good set of pads with cooling gel, and after the extra investments it's still a spectacular buy . I loved my Fidelio X2 HR and I'm starting to fall in love with these Fidelio X3, its design, its light weight, its comfort, its materials, its sound ... We will see if our relationship prospers and we get to a happy marriage that lasts for many years. // 100% de acuerdo con todo lo que dices 👏👏👏😎, mi mal humor al ver detalles tontos como la mala terminación del cuero pegado, los largos cables "duros e incómodos" y dificiles de reemplazar, sus almohadillas calientes que pican en mis orejas (aunque un poco mejores que las de mis X2 HR) han hecho que piense en devolver mis X3 a amazon, pero despues recuerdo que los pague u$130 y me doy cuenta que puedo invertir un poco más en un buen cable en aliexpress más un buen juego de almohadillas con cooling gel, y despues de las inversiones extras sigue siendo una compra espectacular 🙌😎. Ame mis Fidelio X2 HR y estoy empezando a enamorarme de estos Fidelio X3, su diseño, su poco peso, su comodidad, sus materiales, su sonido ❤... veremos si nuestra relacion prospera y llegamos a un matrimonio feliz que dure muchos años ❤😁🙌
@MrAhuraMazda 3 жыл бұрын
The X2HR are some of the best value for money in audio. Unless the X3 is noticeably better, forget it. The next close thing are 4XX/58X (and now the M570 for $199 which if you get a good pair are outstanding) but the X2 are sooooo comfortable and durable and wide and warm. They do EVERYTHING well. Nothing spectacular but every single genre of music sounds good on them. Get the X2.
@hakimisimon 3 жыл бұрын
Hello a big congratulations for your great work, I would like to have your opinion to connect a fidelio x2 on the new Xbox knowing that it no longer has optical output can you advise me what to be able to control the volume without losing quality? Very good day to you
@kkazakov 3 жыл бұрын
Audeze LCD-1's have the same cable nonsense. However, it's pretty easy to make a cable, so I did one (on the second try, of course).
@Jamie-666 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Fidelio X1s and they are so much fun. Thinking about buying the Klipsch HP-3s and be done with it. V shaped bass open headphones is where i want to be. I would've looked at X3's but they have gone in a different direction. Folks, 'audiophile' is boring, you want bass and presence in a headphone, believe me.
@nonamejustx 2 жыл бұрын
Great rev, just ordered the X2HR, it's currently 99 eur on amazon while the X3 is just over 200. For me it's mainly for gaming, tho i do listen to music occasionally but didn't make sense to pay double.
@icedviking4485 2 жыл бұрын
How are they for gaming? Been thinking about getting a pair, but I mostly play apex so I need directional sound.
@nonamejustx 2 жыл бұрын
@@icedviking4485 For the price they’re pretty good for sure, not as neutral i expected for an open back headphones but still good spacing. The bass is a bit much for me so i’m going for a HD6xx from drop since they’re on sale. Still i def recommend the X2HR around a 100eurs over any gaming headsets with the same pricetag
@icedviking4485 2 жыл бұрын
@@nonamejustx Yup, they're on sale right now. X3s are around 150, but I'm not sure whether I should get them or just get a razer kraken ultimate. Tough choice! ;p
@nonamejustx 2 жыл бұрын
@@icedviking4485 not an expert but i think the fidelio is at least a tier above of these gaming headsets. personally i'd always go for the studio stuff over the gaming ones. also (this is also a personal preference) i hate talking while i'm wearing closed back or noise cancelling phones so i always go for the open backs. they always have great spacing, so far i used K612 pros, DT880 pros and the X2HR and they are all great for gaming as well as casually listening to music (with an entry level DAC ofc, i have the fiio e10k)
@icedviking4485 2 жыл бұрын
@@nonamejustx I'm fairly new to all of this because I would just use some more expensive headphones without DAC, etc. Do you really need it to use these headphones?
@freepress8451 Ай бұрын
May 2024 Just discovered Philips headphones, purchased the SHP9600 and X2HR's to compare, the latter are amazing. Binge watched a new NF show Hierarchy, AAC 5.1 6 Channels and the sound was amazing, most comfortable headphones I have worn.
@josexavierjr.5633 3 жыл бұрын
Perforated leather ear pads could have sealed the deal, but nooooooo! Nice headphones, but not for $350. Good, honest review, thanks Zeos. BTW, what part of NY are you from?
@bloodshed_ 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered this for around USD180. Hopefully I'll be satisfied. These are my first "high-end" headphones. Going from Steelseries Arctis Wireless 7 and a pair of Sennheiser PC 363D gaming headset. But I should get a decent dac right? The Fiio K3 are USD130 here in Sweden now.
@VikingMeetsPinay 2 жыл бұрын
How are they compared to pc 363d?
@nout1972 3 жыл бұрын
I own both, got the X3s first and later the X2s because every reviewer out there claimed the X2s are better....but they are not. There is this consensus that the X3s are brighter and more peaky in the treble than the X2s. To my ears, and I may be the only one yet, the X3s are smoother, have more warmth in the mids. Especially vocals sound fuller. But I agree, their bass is leaner and tighter. Their timbre I think is better than that of the X2s, which I find to be grainy at times. I find the X3s to be more like the HD650s, but with wider and better soundstage, due to bit recessed mids and with brighter highs. I listen classical music a lot and with natural recordings the X3s beat the X2s in a significant way. I got them cheap and didn't expect much. First auditions I compared them with the HD650s and I found the HD650s to be better overall, save for soundstage. But after three weeks, listening to them for 6-8 hours a day I prefer them over the HD650s. Their brighter signature is only apparent in direct comparison with my NightHawks and HD650. But just using them on a daily base I find them very unfatiguing, just like the NightHawks and HD650s. I may turn into a treble head, because their highs are simply glorious, just the right amount of peaks and dips, to my ears never harsh, hard or sibilant, as if they were custom tuned to my ears.
@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 3 жыл бұрын
Are they worth the price?
@nout1972 3 жыл бұрын
@@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 I paid 207 euro, so yes. But at their retail price? I don't think the Sundara's are that better, maybe in a technical way, but certainly not in built quality and musical enjoyment. The HD650s cost me 330 euro (in Europe we don't have Massdrop's HD6XXs) and even though I think the HD650s are technically and tonally better I like the X3s better. So it is all relative. I'd wait though, till the price drops
@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 3 жыл бұрын
@@nout1972 I think people are just disappointed because the x2hr is half the price. In a few months when it is 200 it will be a serious bargain. But the headphone I wanna buy the most right now is 1more triple driver
@nout1972 3 жыл бұрын
@@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 I am actually very interested in the Avantone Pro Planar. :)
@treetam2865 3 жыл бұрын
同意！明显X3的声音更自然，因为这种三明治结构的振膜会有更出色的阻尼
@ckchappell 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever has been waiting, these are $170 on Amazon now. edit: grabbed them for $135 on Prime Day. Very pleased with the price and sound.
@dunli9167 13 күн бұрын
just bought these for 138 USD on Amazon. The Sennheiser HD650 is 300 but these are 138?? Nuts.
@trinityflow Жыл бұрын
I love these headphones for $150 with tax. Magical.
@simonholmqvist8017 3 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to add a small spacer on the end of an ordinary 3.5 mm plug to "fix" the problem?
@johnhurley8918 Жыл бұрын
I work in a micro center where these were marked down several times over the course of months before someone bought them. We only had two to begin with. I started to feel bad for them, like the dog in the selter no one wanted.
@erickruse4679 3 жыл бұрын
I picked these up today and ran them on my Fiio x5 gen3. I plugged them in using the standard cables. My reaction was similar to some other reviewers where they were saying things like "needle sharp" and "treble canons". Kinda miserable unless you turn the volume way down. Then I pulled out that balanced cable and set the fiio to Hi gain and balanced turbo. The treble is much more under control (although still sometimes sibilant), and the soundstage is wider. I think these are just bad performers out of balanced mode. Not sure if I'm going to keep them. Got a THX 789 arriving tomorrow. I fear my eardrums might blow out with this combo :)
@erickruse4679 3 жыл бұрын
I was totally wrong about the THX and Fidelio. Plugged into the THX, these Fidelios sound like something special. Now I'm thinking that treble spike was an extremely narrow range of something like 100hz that goes way out of control on a weak amp. These things still have lots of treble, but my ears are no longer ringing on the THX, and the whole thing comes together into a cohesive musical presentation. I actually might like these better than the Sundara's for about half my music.
@4762mc2 Жыл бұрын
Just order X3 from Amazon at US$160. Hope can work well with my ZEN DAC V2
@IntuitiveReview 3 жыл бұрын
the man the myth the legend
@mrbajo821 3 жыл бұрын
Its crazy that you dont get multiple lengths cables, different boxes to store it in like travel and one like thing to put it in on the table when headsets is so damn expensive. I dont mean this headset in particular, but like man I get that some parts is really expensive and the technology is impeccable. Why is it so hard to make small gestures that would keep a customer to stay fans of the brand for life.
@andymorell1205 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Zeos Have you ever heard or tried a set of Phonon smb-2 ?
@christopherrose4568 3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking about either picking these or some 58x’s up. Anybody got some advice as to which might be better?
@ErikN1 3 жыл бұрын
The only two issues I have with my X2HR is that I can't find spare pads anywhere, so when they wear out that's it, and that the head band is a bit squeaky when moving my head. Otherwise I love them!
@bradhuskers 2 жыл бұрын
Dekoni pads for the x2hr, are amazing! And you can find them everywhere
@robert3859 2 жыл бұрын
Z would you say the X3 is also great for gaming if I can get them for a good price?
@TheCompleteWeirdo 2 жыл бұрын
would u recommend these at the sale price of $160 or still stick to x2 at around $120-140
@YangYangUS 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@BitWolf 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or the new review place looks much more like the very OG review place way before old apartment?
@Kaltes1 3 жыл бұрын
good news is at the moment they are on sale for about 317. bad news is that the T60rp's are also on sale for 250. just get the T60rp's and send them to Ryan for the argon conversion.
@awwboo88 3 жыл бұрын
The balanced cable with only 2.5mm made me laugh so hard the way u said it
@loki76 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this late Zeos had a completely different room setup..
@drunkboi5887 3 жыл бұрын
Im a proud owner of x2hr and i think ill stick to them, better looks dont justify 350$ in my book
@AndyU96 3 жыл бұрын
How many poles are there on that balanced cable at 8:50 ? I'm expecting 5 (ground, left, left inverse, right, right inverse)
@koerel 3 жыл бұрын
2.5mm balanced are usually 4 pole. It's really only 4.4mm pentaconn that's 5 pole because it's supposed to do both balanced and single-ended in one connector.
@besi1974 2 жыл бұрын
its 159 on amazon right now. i ordered it to check em out ,i have the x2.
@ItsBoyRed 3 жыл бұрын
I need new headphones, and i want openbacks this time, i have narrowed it down to the X3 vs HD 650. I like bass, but im not a "bass-head", i also do FPS gaming. I have found the x3 for 230$ limited deal where i live, and the Sennheisers for 400$. any input? :)
@tomolsss 3 жыл бұрын
3:38 Z, that's not vinyl. I just pulled out my X2HR box and checked in the booklet - it's calf leather. And you can check it on the edges.
@mukkaar 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Those leather endings definitely need some thin metal band or something to cover it up. Quite obvious design oversight in otherwise quite stylish headphones.
@RoraighPrice 3 жыл бұрын
"you could cut the cloth if you, felt like it"
@anhiirr 3 жыл бұрын
well prime days now noted....were all eyes out for the shp 9500 and x2 deal among others. I guess everythings "listed" already...as for the x3...surely they will be 250$ or less...."ONE DAY"....lol. Looking forward to getting some x2s for 99$ or some 9500s for 50$ fingers crossed
@ErikN1 2 жыл бұрын
The documentation for my X2HR says genuine leather. Are you sure it's not?
@krystofhornik6665 3 жыл бұрын
What about Philips TAH9505, anyone seen them reviewed anywhere? Wonder how they'd perform against xm3/4.. seems like they're in the same price range.
@Akalipt0s 2 жыл бұрын
in my country at the moment they cost 250 and x2HR costs 145... which one should i get?
@ancientalien815 3 жыл бұрын
I have the x2hrs. Really want to try the sivga phoenix .
@wahuuuwahuu1245 5 ай бұрын
bought the Philips Fidelio X3 for 135€ looking forward how they sound
@KristoferProphet 3 жыл бұрын
Can you review Austrian Audio Hi-55x ?
@manicniceguy2341 Жыл бұрын
How can I made the Headband less hurt? I tired stretching them out with some success someone on Amazon said they moded the Headband on theirs not sure what they did.
@TimTams_64 3 жыл бұрын
Need moar anime, you have the space to go full weeb now.
@ZReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I mean. If I dug out a Sub Basement like in Silence of the Lambs...
@gutchynsky 3 жыл бұрын
It rubs the lotion in its skin...
@iamgiovannipatino 3 жыл бұрын
@@gutchynsky or else it gets the hose again
@Tristan.- 3 жыл бұрын
5'3 anime figure to put headphones on.
@martinmedrano 3 жыл бұрын
Hi zeos i just purchased the klipsch rp600m and i am looking for a desktop amp and dac that can use banana plugs. And also use it with my beyerdynamic dt990 pro. 250 ohms.
@noth606 3 жыл бұрын
276euro in the Netherlands, multiple retail/online places. X2HR is 182euro, but only Amazon.nl. But the X3 is far too close to HD600/650 territory even at 276e.
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