Audience member: "What, if anything, would change your mind?" Bill Nye: "Evidence." Ken Ham: "Nothing."

Anticitizenx has decided to bless us with another video.

Every time I ask a Christian why do they know they're right they always talk about the Holy Ghost. But when I ask why I did not feel anything before they say I need faith, and need to ask God. Then I ask "what if I told you that I was praying yesterday, asking knowledge to God and he in person talked to me and said that the Bible is wrong, and all Cristians are damned?" The answer is always the same. They say that, either I'm lying or it was a demon, not God who talked to me. This is the worst problem with apologetics logics, how to validate the divine revelation? I saw in rationalwiki a theorem that states that is utterly impossible to validate the truth of a divine revelation. But I did not understand the proof, so this is a suggestion for a video. How could I tell that the revaluation is a lie, or if it wasn't from God? What about the other people who truly believe in their God's revelations? How could YOU be sure that the thing YOU feel is coming directly from God and not from a demon, in the same way you claim it for the others?

When I was a christian, I never understood the whole holy spirit thing. I was supposed to feel it but I didn't. I was supposed to feel God's love, or God's presence, but I didn't. It made me feel like something was wrong with me. After all, the christian answer is basically "try harder, stop sinning, search with all your heart and soul, etc". So I did look with all my heart and soul. I prayed 3 times a day, I abstained from sex, I read the bible every night. I went to church every sunday. Every. Single. Day. For. Years. I asked for God to allow me to feel his love and etc. But I just didn't. And the reason why is obvious. Because I'm too smart for that. I'm too honest for that. I would never pretend that I felt the holy spirit. I couldn't pretend that I felt God's love. I either did or I didn't, and I didn't. The truth is that if you honestly look, you won't find god... because he's not there. Now that I'm free of religious dogma, I can see clearly that it's all kind of silly. As a christian, atheists who pointed out that my views were silly would make me angry. Maybe because deep down I knew they were right. It's all very silly.

That ending just murdered religion. I'm impressed.

Yesterday some Christians made pretty good arguments for the truth of their religion, but I already experienced the self-authenticating witness of Charles Darwin so I ignored all their arguments and kept believing in science.

When I was a young Christian, several of my atheist friends used to posit gotcha one liners they thought would shake me out of my faith. Later, after I became an atheist I remember one of them said something I still think about to this day. He said: “you believe because you’re afraid not to.” There’s a fair amount of truth behind it.

Unlike Jesus, ACX has returned! Time flies. Part 1 of this series was from 7 years ago

I recall how Martin Luther's categorization of all those who disagreed with him: There were the ignorant, the stupid, and the evil.

Me and Matt Dillahunty actully just did a debate with two apologists who use this argument, the personal experince argument, as their primary evidence.

Religious apologist: People who claim they have no experiences of gods are liars Atheist: I'm afraid that would make you the liar

The holy spirit has swayed many to believe in Christ. The congregations of thousands of churches swoon and sway with existential rapture when the holy spirit comes to them. The holy spirit has one rule, "I will instill wisdom and knowledge to all believers, but I will never expose Pastors who rape children."

When I look out into the world with all the horrendous suffering, I have a “properly basic belief” that God does not exist.

'I'm right, you're wrong, I can't possibly be wrong and you all hold my position anyway' sounds Syes debate some years back :D

It seems rather unwise for an all-knowing, all-powerful being to utilize such an unreliable method of communication to convey a message that critically impacts the eternal welfare of the recipients. Furthermore, this method of communication discourages the critical thinking skills needed to stave off those that would intentionally take advantage of other's emotional state of being. This concept was the final straw that broke my faith in the Mormon church. Thank you AntiCitizenX for articulating so well the absurdity of the concept of receiving a witness of the Holy Spirit.

Was doing some homework for college and needed a debate topic for this semester. Wanted to refresh myself and clicked on a vid. I think I’ll do my debate on....debates. Conviction. Honest inquiry and the pursuit of truth vs the need to be right/inability to admit wrong. Thanks for the idea.

Impeccable execution and straight to the point; which is perfectly reminiscent of your earlier work. Yet again, brings out something completely new- could be because of the new characters and animation. All in all, great work.

I once literally saw the face of Jesus while praying at a church retreat camp, even got light-headed and almost passed out immediately afterwords, had to sit down Seems about as legit an experience one can get, yet I'm still an atheist

Basically a mic drop at the end there. Incredible.

When I was a Muslim, I would pray or read qur’an and feel a calm, euphoric feeling in my heart. I was certain that this was Allah affirming to me that Islam is the one and only truth. However it really is just that, a feeling, and one that led me down into a very dark rabbit hole that made me into a downright evil person, all for the desire of eternal paradise

Your videos were hugle influential in my deconversion. Im so happy to see you making new videos!

This channel is amazing and has helped me become a confident atheist :D Thank you!

THE LONG-AWAITED RETURN

Really never thought about that bit about the wind. Makes a lot of sense.

Thanks god and the Holy Spirit AntiCitizenX manage to re-remember the password of his channel Good video XD ;)

But warm fuzzy experiences are so sweet and tasty - Homer Simpson

When apologists set up a Skype with my dead parents and grandparents, then we'll talk. They keep telling me that they are not really dead, but in some heavenly resort village, so a Skype call seems like child's play for a universe sorcerer. Just sayin'

I used to be an evangelical christian. When I look back on it, the holy spirit was basically my conscience. So christians walk around listening to their conscience believing it's a direct message from god. That's why there's no point arguing with them because they think every "good" thought they have is literally divine inspiration.

LOVE YOUR VIDEOS, Thanks, Always a pleasure and a great intellectual exercise.

I think this shaming of dibelief that christians practice are not directed more at atheists than they are directed at christians themselves. They are fearful of becoming disbelievers, and this fear blinds them to everything people has to say about their religion. To me, that's the main reason why they are so resistent to atheism. They act out of pure bigotry against them.

"God is real because I experience the holy spirit and it tells me I'm right!" Translatify: "I feel convinced god is real because I felt conviction god is real!" Gee thanks, _Craig._

I’m an ex mormon. I had incredibly powerful manifestations of the spirit, but it’s nothing that cannot be explained naturalistically. For example, I had extremely similar experiences (but MORE powerful) using psychedelics. Nothing mystical, just the human brain.

I’ve always found it funny how the holy trinity is the most blatant logical contradiction ever, and Christians just don’t care or even try to hide it lmao.

Yipeeeee. A new video from AntiCitizenX. 😉👌🏼

Holy spirit literally translates to "sanctified breath of air." When I was going to church as a kid, a pastor explained it as the air within us contains your mindset. Like the old saying he had an air about him, or putting on airs. He translated it as sanctified mindset. As silly as that was, it made more sense than this apologist garbage. This was the last thing I learned in church. I left by the end of year. Never went back. This was a great series I love a well thought out argument. Good job.

Some recently-graduated philosopher sent me a meme the other day: "Who would win? - Philosophers making sophisticated arguments in favor of the existence of God. - A neckbeard typing 'sky fairy' in the comments." I missed the opportunity of rewriting it as "sophistry-cated". Told her that arguments aren't evidence and she got super angry, blabbering something against my "holy science". Who gives philosophy degrees to people like that?

Oh my gooood i thought i would never witness a fresh video of yours! I'm so hyped

Hindu apologists are taught to defend Hinduism by saying, "I know Hinduism is right." and nothing more. How can both Christian and Hindu apologists be right about the testimony of their respective, mutually exclusive religions?

4:44 "I don't know of an argument for Christian belief that seems very likely to convince one who doesn't already accept its conclusion." So your arguments are only likely to convince those who don't even need the arguments to begin with. Awesome!

I'm happy you are back after several months without a single video. This one was mind blowing! Greetings from Brazil!

My theory is that God/ the supernatural exist, but the reason why it's inconsistent and unprovable, is that they are just fucking with us, cause it's funny for em. Would still be nicer than actual gods/ religions

I am ecstatic to see another video from this channel. It is truly phenomenal content that you put out.

Craig: Casper told me so

please dont let us wait another two years for the next part

He lives

23:39 The current Danish word for spirit is "Ånd" (Pronounced: [ˈʌnˀ]), so the word hasn't changed much in 1000 years or so. As always, an amazing video, AntiCitizenX. Insta-liked :)

Thanks for your video's. I only came across them yesterday. Especially your work on scientifically proving that it is possible for a group of individuals with human brains to evolve between them a set of fully functional religions. No godly intervention required. Thanks for the effort to put this so well together. I find Atheism a very peaceful point of view. Patience in the progress of science. Honesty in admitting you don't know.

I once heard a different KZfaqr refer to AntiCitizen X as “deicide”, and he was SO right.

I had true Christian faith. But then I learned about evolution.

That sir, was amazing! The first video I've seen of yours, and you've got a new subscriber! Now I'm gonna check out your other videos!

Saw your upload just now, didn't even watch the video yet but seeing another upload of yours made me feel much better. You're one of my favourite channels, I admire and respect your work a lot. Thank you for uploading content.

It ain't just Christians that do this either every religion and even many political ideologies use this logic in defense of thier beliefs.

Welcome back! You were missed!

I forgot this channel existed! Totally gonna be rewatching some videos here soon

Get back to me when God shows up on 700 Club, for now I'll continue to praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster for she is really quite Noodly.

oh I was randomly thinking about your channel (in particular I found myself randomly thinking "prepare to initiate theme music!" after watching someone play AI dungeons and make a story about star trek xD). Well that's all. Imagine if I tried to deduce anything from this coincidence! that'd be ridiculous.

This is a brilliant, well-organized overview of most apologetics I've encountered.

Was just binging the series; didn't know that it was still in the works ❤️

AntiCitizenX I binge watched all 11 of these, I have always been atheist and often debate/argue with believers, congrats on a well explained, thoughtful and entertaining addition to my library and I added at least one thing per video to my argument arsenal, thank you. I will work my way through the rest Mac

I really missed your work. Thank you for coming back.

Even though I am not an English speaker, I strive to understand all your videos.

I was just watching the other parts of the series and you come out with this one just 12 hours ago! God must be leading me towards watching this video.

Oh, great, now you have to do episode 12 as well. Otherwise episode 11 will be considered filler or OVA.

Very much underrated content, you deserve way more views.

>By their own admission, most apologists aren't convinced by their arguments I think there's a charitable reading of the situation: there are situations where you think you are right (when you in fact are) but can't accurately articulate the reasons as to why or disprove the evidence contrary to your claim. Consider the heliocentric model: For the longest time (until Kepler) the best geocentric models provided a better fit to the observations. Some proponents of heliocentrism didn't act on purely philosophical grounds and had arguments to back them up, such as Aristarchus of Samos using geometry to calculate the Sun is larger than Earth and reasoning larger objects ought to have more attractive force (which was a sound idea, but not empirically demonstrated), or they didn't feel right about epicycles upon epicycles. Nowadays we know heliocentrists were right and the kind of reservations they would have had regarding geocentric models have been formalized to rules of inference such as Occam's razor/Solomonoff's induction , but back then they had neither the evidence nor formalized epistemology backing them up, just a persistent idea they are right and the opposition's arguments must be flawed in some way they can't quite put their finger on. Of course, that obviously doesn't mean every idea someone believes with subjective (near-)certainty is in fact true. However, I believe this phenomenon provides the framework from which you should look at people's religious experience and provides a counterexample to the idea you must always reject your beliefs when they seem to be in contradiction with the evidence and rational arguments. Let's think about what's happening here. Modern epistemology/probability theory didn't exist in the antiquity, but while flawed in well-documented ways, humans can use probabilistic reasoning intuitively and usually it works really well. Ancients arguing against geocentrism assigned to it a low prior probability (due to intuitive understanding of Occam's razor), low enough that the available evidence wasn't enough to update their model away from heliocentrism despite observations supporting geocentrism. Despite informality, this exactly how probabilistic reasoning is supposed to go. Now, what is the prior religious people have? I can't speak from religious experience but it seems to me it's cogito ergo sum: Intuitively, the existence of your own self and thoughts is as close to certainty as can be, so it's natural to assign a probability of near-1 (or even 1, due to "otherwise you might as well not bother" line of logic). However, it has been suggested by Julian Jaynes a sense of self and "your" thoughts is cultural, going as far as arguing people prior to bronze age collapse didn't have consciousness (by which he probably means theory of mind, a term that was coined later). What we now view us "our" thoughts and "our" mind, according to him, wasn't always perceived as such, referring to lines of evidence such as pre-classical literature that at no point refer to any conception of state of mind, but regularly refer to things like gods literally talking to people, supposedly analogous to other phenomenon like children's imaginary friends before they learn the culture-dependent interpretation that thoughts in your head are your own and not other people. Now, I don't buy this theory hook line and sinker, but I think it might have gotten some things right. For example, when religious people claim to feel the presence of the Holy Spirit, I find it plausible they are referring to a part of their mind, which they experience as unshakably real as Descartes experienced his, even while doubting all sensory perception. If this, or something similar to this, is what's actually happening, "squishy subjective sensation" AntiCitizenX is referring to is selling the verisimilitude of the experience a bit short. Of course, if you are reasoning correctly, for every statement P there should be a finite amount of evidence sufficient for you to change your belief to ¬P. Like the video points out, science shows us that our minds are not just fallible but systematically deceive us in regards to a lot of other questions, so this burden of proof shouldn't even be particularly difficult to meet. Hell, many ideas that would have been considered a priori certain by many (such as existence of "space" which contains all other existence and "time" that moves from past to future, while quantum gravity would have it that both are contained within single concept of quantum fields, along with everything else that is) might be wrong - a lesson against considering any matter definitely settled. If you are reasoning correctly, you should accept the evidence and conclude even your most fundamental beliefs might have been mistaken. But while (at least some of) the apologetics might be deliberately lying or making really simple mistakes such as interpreting regular auditory hallucinations as the voice of god or something, there's a category of alternatives where their mistakes are a bit more understandable: there's an understandably (if incorrectly) really strong prior which screws up the results of otherwise entirely justified probability calculations in regards to when you should ignore the seemingly contradictory evidence.

I'm struggling to understand the first pa... oh, I think I got it. "You study your bible" made no sense to me because as we all well know the only kind of christian who studies their bible is the _former_ kind. You mean "You """""study""""" your bible" the way most believers do; turning the pages slowly while staring lovingly at the ceiling and quietly chanting "Aaaah luuuuv Djeeeeezaaaas! Aaaaah luuuuuv GAAAAWWAWWDUHDUHDUH!!!!" while never glancing at the actual bible itself. Like they do in Bible Study(tm). Carefully pre-selected feel-good passages pruned of any context that might be "challenging to someone's faith" or spark some believer's crippled brain into having its first thought in decades. You really made me work to understand that one, pal.

Yesssss!!! A new AntiCitizenX video!

Yes Yes Yes. Another video!

In Russian, the words for "spirit" and "soul" (дух and душа, respectively) are also derived from the word for "breath" (дышать/дыхание).

For some reason I was expecting some jokey legalese about believing in god in the contract at 7:33. I wasn't actually expecting it to be the original Nicene Creed from 325 but that it is. Or rather, it's almost the creed. I assume it was copied from Wikipedia where some lines have brackets around them and you (or whatever source you used) removed those parts while editing the text. However the bracketed parts are actually part of the original creed and Wikipedia is just using brackets to mark sections that were removed or moved around in later versions while other stuff was added. The full creed in English (translation by Philip Schaff 1877): "We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father [the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God,] Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; By whom all things were made [both in heaven and on earth]; Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man; He suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven; From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. And in the Holy Ghost. [But those who say: 'There was a time when he was not;' and 'He was not before he was made;' and 'He was made out of nothing,' or 'He is of another substance' or 'essence,' or 'The Son of God is created,' or 'changeable,' or 'alterable'- they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.]"

Holy shit. Gotta drop everything. It’s a new AntiCitizenX

Please update the playlists . I like to listen to them while I sleep.

i bet if Ham could no longer rake in that christian money he would change his mind.

Yay! You're still alive!

Despite how bad the rest of it is, the bit about how anyone who failed to reach your conclusion can be dismissed as evil or stupid is the worst. A lot of the bite is taken out with the whole "everyone is evil and stupid because of the fall" bit, but that's only about the influence they can exert on others in the sense of religious authority. The effect it has on those that believe it can ruin relationships effortlessly, nobody wants to help someone only to be looked at with contempt or pity.

Holy sh*t, I've been rewatching your videos this week and now you come back!? I have some special power because the same thing happened with another channel the previous week, call it omniscience

I'm glad you are still adding content to this series. Good work so far.

Whoa, that hot air ending was a big brain move!

Hm, just discovered your channel and it reminded me so much of theramintree. Kudos btw, great material. Consider yourself subbed

Wonderful video. And the point about the original meaning of Spirit is certainly very revealing. Although of course Hegel's 'Phenomenology of Spirit' is not all hot air!!

I'm happy you're back :)

Missed you man Very long time ❤️❤️

Isnt a "Statement of faith" just an admission of ones failure to overcome confirmation bias?

i was wondering if this series would make a return

Been a looong time since seeing you. Glad to see you back.

As an exjw I’m so glad you included Jehovahs witnesses! Thank you so much and if you wanna know anything just ask!

Has anyone every asked William Lane Craig how he feels about God withering his hands?

Now that's how you finish a video! Bravo!

Love the reasoning❤

Let the AntiCitizenX binge begin!

Fun fact: The reason why we hold our hand before the mouth comes from the middle age, because it was believed that if you yawn to hard your soul might leave your body through your wide open mouth. Fits to the translatin comparision at the end of the video. Side note: My father often talked with their priest in school, back in the days, who was holding the religion class. My father told me that the priests last argument mostly was: "You have to believe me this now.", leaving my fathers questions unanswered. Very convincing...

Excellent video! The Holy Spirit truly is what convinced most lay Christians and ultimately drives their faith rather than rhetorical arguments, at least to my experience. I was raised a Pentacostal, a denomination where spiritual devotion is heavily entangled with emotions and identity, and just the thought that it might not be true can make people feel distressed and even personally attacked. And perhaps understandably so, it really takes time and consideration to leave, it's hard when you’ve been ensured it from early childhood, by people you, at the time, thought knew everything about the world, I can say that for myself. I never experienced anything that I identified as the Holy Spirit though, and it was quite scary to see people react so violently allegedly moved by it. I'm still quite curious as to what underlying psychological phenomena conspires to elicit this effect, perhaps a topic for a later video ;)

Fanatical conviction out of thin air... literally

That's awesome! Because I never had "the inner witness of the Holy Spirit", I begged, pleaded, but God never "spoke" to me. therefore I gave up Christianity. Lovely.

Long time no see. May i suggest you a video against pressups arguments or quatum idealism

Came back to this after some time

I'm I the only who really wants to see Anticitizenx do serie on formal logic and epistemology 😅

The return of the king

This channel would be much bigger if you uploaded more often

At 9:00, you do a great job of enumerating the many ways in which the Holy Spirit allegedly interacts with and communicates. I'd like to add that he seemingly does this in ALL Christian denominations. Don't let that escape your attention. All the denoms think THEY are the only correct ones. Yet the Holy Spirit seems to endorse each and every one. This only sews confusion, despite scripture saying God does not do. ;-) Edit: Ah, you touch on this later on.