Phototropic Oak Tree Leaning All Over the House

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2 жыл бұрын

In this video we climb this tree, rig down all of its branches and then fell the stick. The job was a no clean up job so we stacked all of the branches in a nice pile for the customer to work through and then tipped the stick in the other direction to that it wasn't on top of the brush.

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@johnfahey7215 2 жыл бұрын

As usual great job with explanations! I like your emphasis on safety- yourself and ground crew. Thanks!😀👍

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John!

@HansvanOostende 3 ай бұрын

Nice work also the boys on the ground

@mattrossman6472 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job man! Thanks again for taking that down!! Top notch and class act! My yard looks amazing now!

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

No problem! It was a pleasure to work for you! Im sorry, I remembered and then forgot to send you the link to this video. I imagine you could pass it on to your Gene for me?

@DM-rp7ps Жыл бұрын

Hemlock is my number one, but I luv's the smell of fresh cut oak!

@1eingram Жыл бұрын

Enjoy your vids. No disparagement, but I see quite a difference in experience between you and August.

@zaccheus Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, he's been doing tree work longer than I've been alive 😂 experience is way more important in this industry than I ever thought it was when I was getting started. No matter how many climbers I heard say that experience mattered, I thought I could conquer the world.

@jakubhostinsky4482 2 жыл бұрын

Best GRCS video I have seen.

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@aus71383 2 жыл бұрын

deep notch is good for undermining the gravity. congrats on another safe and successful day

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

It absolutely is, however it does come at the cost of a shorter back cut which can be risky sometime. I made one a little too deep the other day 😬 Thanks!

@leonardvirtue5753 2 жыл бұрын

Nice 😊 mate 🤙

@billroberts3864 Жыл бұрын

Great explanations and nice that you give encouraging compliments to your ground crew. You have one of the best tree care channels on You Tube.

@zaccheus Жыл бұрын

Thanks Bill! That's mighty kind of you to say!

@ryankuhn926 2 жыл бұрын

This was awesome guys nice job!

@jeffcoon7160 2 жыл бұрын

Very smooth, very professional. The grcs is a game changer.

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more Jeff, even when you don't absolutely need it, it can still make a job so much faster and safer.

@JC-ck4wk 2 жыл бұрын

I love you videos! I always learn allot watching them! Keep it up!

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jake

@therevolutionisgrowing.4491 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful work! Very professional! The formula I was taught for lifting notches is to make one cut parallel with the earth and one perpendicular with the limb. If you do that your branches will be perfectly vertical when the notch closes so you don’t need to cut the hinge or have your notch close before the limb it vertical. Not critical on smaller wood but when doing large diameter lifting cuts its nice to be able move away from the piece being rigged.

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

I'll have to g8ve thay a try next time!

@austinsmith3749 2 жыл бұрын

Great job man! This was another great video… I need to get a GRCS. Definitely a game changer. Thanks for explaining what you are doing - really appreciate that

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! They are an asset I do believe. Getting the right drill also helps because cranking just takes forever 🙄

@toddjacks8288 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video brother as always

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Todd!

@erik30012 2 жыл бұрын

nicely done!

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@mattlewis9725 2 жыл бұрын

Subscribed. I like your work and explanation of why you do what you do. Preciate your videos man. Thank you! Climb safe!

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the channel! Thank you for your kind words Matt 😊

@mhpjii Жыл бұрын

_Excellence!_

@TreeSawTTV 11 ай бұрын

Nice!

@zaccheus 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Bob!

@brandonswan9247 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. you're almost up to 4k subscribers already. Great job.

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, spread the word! I've been dreaming about building a break bench here recently and would love to add that kind of stuff to the channel.

@jobbybohnson6818 2 жыл бұрын

"NO CLEAN UP" music to my ears.

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah! Absolutely 👌

@Mr.G626 2 жыл бұрын

Subscribed!

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Welcome to the channel!

@TreeNerdi 9 ай бұрын

During your ascent, you used your hand saw without lanyarding off. That's especially bad with a base tie as there is now twice the risk of cutting your life line. T.I.T...(tie in twice) Also, the block to pulley ratio is 4:1. A 2"inch block is sufficient for a 1/2" line. This comes from Pi (3.14) and the linear relationship to circles. Old sailors used 3:1 ratio. In fact, the minimum bend radius is pi and in arboriculture, we err on the side of caution and call it an even 4:1. Stay safe. Cool videos!

@zaccheus 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! The matter of being tied in twice for hand saw use is debated by many and there are folks on bother sides of the fence. To my knowledge, its not clear in ANSI guidelines. But if I am wrong on this, please cite the section as I'd love to reference it in future videos. While a base anchors does produce a situation with more vulnerable linear feet of rope in the tree, that does not inherently make the situation twice as dangerous. If it did, DRT climbing would be significantly more dangerous than SRT. You might be familiar with the value of using gear as recommended by the manufacturer in our world of arboriculture. Samson states in their literature that for double braid rope, they recommend an 8:1 ratio for dynamic bends (like over the rotating sheave on a block) over 10° and a 3:1 ratio for a static bend (like over the non rotating sheave on a block) over 10°. Pi is the ratio of diameter to circumference and has nothing to do with the ratio of diameter of rope to diameter of sheave.

@williamfleenor7687 2 жыл бұрын

Smooth

@jasonlaswell8982 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work I’m getting a grcs now👍

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

It is an absolutely prime device, worth every penny.

@LogicallyCompromised 2 жыл бұрын

@Zaccheus do the angled cut first... hold the saw at the angle you want to make the notch and make sure the bar is resting/touching the outside of the tree. then rotate the saw along the outside of the tree till you are gunning to the desired felling zone; while maintaining tangency to the tree and angle you want for notch. or you can start with bar flat and touching the tree to gun it and when happy tilt the saw to get the bar angle before starting the angled notch cut; traditional or humboldt(sp?). once happy pull the trigger and ride the saw as deep as you want the notch. lastly, hold the saw flat and meet up with your angled cut. this is much easier and you are much more likely to get it right first try. if it is a critical job, after the notch is out put the saw back in the kerf and make adjustments if you are not content with where it guns; with practice, you will rarely need to make adjustments even when precision is required. it pushes me into the red how few people are taught this more rational approach and how often most jack up their face cuts. it helps the most with big cuts when it is easy to lose your reference when pulling the saw out of flat cut. it is bush-league easy to line up the flat cut second with the angled cut. most of the time these people trying to be "more accurate" (this is often excuse people claim with why they do not do angled cut first) with flat cut first, waste time by chasing and cutting the notch out in several pieces just to spend more time setting the fell direction again. i wish i was half the arborist as you and this is likely one of few tips i can provide. awesome job and thank you for the entertainment and informative video, be safe!

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for taking the time to wrote out this comment! I have spoke with a few folks about the benefits of cutting the angled cut first. It's the way most trainers around here suggest. It's the way that most big companies teach too. It probably is a little faster due to the ease of matching the cuts. As you suggested I do struggle to get things aimed right when making the angled cut first and so that's why I've developed the habit of making the horizontal cut first. Old habits die hard and thats the only reason I haven't retrained myself to start with the angled cut 😅 maybe I'll be more motivated to change things around now. Thanks again!

@LogicallyCompromised 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus you are welcome. i may not have described the process well and i am sorry for the confusion. do not get me wrong, i still jack up the cuts from time to time but it is far less than even some of the more proficient traditional flat cut first people and i only dabble in arboriculture. if i had to hazard a guess, you may not have the bar touching the tree as you pivot to identify your felling location. the second guess it maybe your bar is not so level relative to the gunning sight on the saw; the bar will tend to ride up if you are generally cutting down with it so often you probably tighten the bar with the nose high to keep things tight for longer. if this is the case than the further from the felling spikes you are the more off you will be; try to use the bar closest to your handle to pivot from for setting up the cut. regardless, after the notch is out you can come in the way you like to gain precision; often just needing a small blimp of the throttle to gain a couple degrees of correction. it is much easier to fix with a minto pinto clean, no dutchman notch. again great job with commentary as this is what i enjoy the most and you will be teaching me many more things as i continue to watch your videos. i also milled out two large slots in my echo 2511t to make it possible the lightest saw in the world; filled it with epoxy. stay safe!

@br-dj2ti 2 жыл бұрын

Great job buddy once again remember I was talking to you in a couple videos ago about spikes gaffs I had the carbon fiber ones they're amazing but I recently ordered the buck light titanium tree gaffs man with them big pads I love them

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure, I think I had my edelrid spikes for this tree. I've been climbing on them for a little bit now and they've been really good. I really like that you can get a foot ascender for them.

@br-dj2ti 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus yeah definitely that put us under is nice I just use the CT and it connects to the gaff. You can slide the foot ascender part on and off and then put it on your boot if you're not using your gaffa it works pretty good

@br-dj2ti 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus that last comment was horrible I was using talk to text but yeah I like that foot ascender that goes on your gaff that's nice I just use the CT foot ascender and then a bracket goes on my gaffs and I can connect it to if I need it when I don't need it just for my boot I can connect it back to the regular strap

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

@@br-dj2ti for sure. I had the CT on my old Buckingham steel climbers. The bracket seems to slide around on me a good bit, but that was my only complaint. I guess I did lose it out of the tree once or twice too

@br-dj2ti 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus wow yeah I've been using it for about 2 years now I put it on my carbon fiber spikes I've never had a problem yet knock on wood but I'll definitely look out for that thank you

@geoffreygreen297 2 жыл бұрын

It seems that the word “stumpshot” isn’t used very often anymore. It means the elevation difference between the flat on the face cut and the flat on the back cut. I love your work. Keep it up.

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Oh that's a new term for me, thanks for sharing!

@carlobernardi1387 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh love the GRCS.. question..why don't you show how you tip tie.. there were some awful long branches on that tree. It would have been nice to see how you got out to the tip... great ground crew.. life is made so much easier when your groundies are good...😁😁😁

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

I guess there wasnt any real reason in particular. It's just pretty standard limb walking. The tree had a lot of sprouts so it was a slow, kinda boring process. Maybe if I get a cleaner tree, I'll include that next time.

@jiffypop247 2 жыл бұрын

I do a lot of the inverse of that. Butt tie far enough out the person on the port-a-wrap has a lot of control, notch it in the downward direction, do the back cut and let it be lowered in a controlled manner. Takes all the swing out of it, but skips the lifting step. Each has its place. Thanks for showing everything, learn a ton from your videos!

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

That's a great, idea. I'll have to give it a try sometime.

@griley1474 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's Daniel Murphy who has a great video showing that. Tie it just before it's balanced right? I use that all the time now

@Sethhaun78 11 ай бұрын

Daniel Murphy is very skilled..like him

@Sethhaun78 11 ай бұрын

You to

@shanewalsh3681 2 жыл бұрын

Are you using a drill to rotate Grcs? If so what drill? That thing is moving quick

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah! We use a 36v makita angle drill. It will about yank itself out of your hands if you don't hold on tight. It was the lowest gear cordless drill I could find. I don't even think we got to the second set if batteries in this tree if I remember correctly

@4.0gpa44 2 жыл бұрын

What's your opinion on GCRS vs the similar Hobb's device?

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

The GRCS is for those who appreciate fine equipment and efficiency, the hobbs is for those who just want a super heavy duty device that they can beat on and hit with logs without worrying about its integrity. I've never used a hobbs, but as I understand, it's difficult to lift any real distance and it's impossible to power with a drill or anything else. It is cheaper though 🤷‍♂️

@gregrupar135 2 жыл бұрын

I like the notch cut, wasn’t perfect but you made it that way. Someone don’t understand the importance of the correct notch

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! It always worth the time to make it right. Mine are almost never perfect the first time. I don't do a lot of felling these days so I'm out of practice 😅

@treeman_bill Жыл бұрын

what knot do you use for ur rigging blocks? or do you just use a couple of half hitches

@zaccheus Жыл бұрын

Mmm I can't remember what I used in this video. I used to use a timber hitch a lot and now I've moved on to using a cow hitch.

@treeman_bill Жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus do you ever use the pulleys you attach to a sling or do you just use blocks?

@treeman_bill Жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus do you ever use the pulleys you attach to a sling or do you just use blocks?

@zaccheus Жыл бұрын

@@treeman_bill I typically use blocks.

@Daniel_4.27 2 жыл бұрын

What type of rope are you climbing on and how does it handle natural crotches

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

That is xstatic by teufelberger. It's super low stretch. I haven't had it for long, but I've redirected througha few natural crotches and it seems to have held up well enough. I would not use it for drt though. It's too stiff and doesn't knot super well.

@Daniel_4.27 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus thank you

@hosocat1410 Жыл бұрын

How do you feel about the 500i compared to others?

@zaccheus Жыл бұрын

I haven't used a whole lot else so I can't really give you a fair comparison. I do love it though. Revs fast, good power to weight ratio, sounds super cool with a WCS muffler 😅

@treemands Жыл бұрын

phototropic oak 😅

@Treework938 2 жыл бұрын

Hey what size of socket is for the GRCS I have a hard time trying to find it and where can I ordered thanks

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

I don't use a socket. It's a proprietary 8 point bit that looks just like the part of the handle that goes into the winch. You can buy them at most places that sell the GRCS or I found a generic one for half the price by googling "harken winch bit" I'll include a link in the next comment.

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

saferescue.com/products/harken-drill-adaptor-powered-crank-handle?variant=31003387854938&currency=USD&

@Treework938 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much I really appreciate it keep going with the good work stay safe

@user-rx7gg2rk5q 10 ай бұрын

What size bar is on that 509 if you dont mind my asking

@zaccheus 10 ай бұрын

36" with a full house chain. It doesn't like it, but it'll do it. I prefer to run a skip tooth on it.

@user-rx7gg2rk5q 10 ай бұрын

@zaccheus thanks man I'm getting into the tree service I just opened my own company your not to far away from me I'm out of coshocton ohio just did my first tree yesterday was a spruce I'm looking at getting a 500 but wasn't 100% sure what bar to get Ile probably got the 36 till I can afford a bigger saw

@zaccheus 10 ай бұрын

@user-rx7gg2rk5q Thats great man, congratulations! I do everything with a 201 and a 500 with a 25" and 36" bar. I've never owned or need anything bigger. It would occasionally be nice to have something a little bigger for stump cuts, but it's also hard to buy a saw just for one or two cuts a day 😅

@renemir891 Жыл бұрын

Did you drill the holes on the chainsaw bar?

@zaccheus Жыл бұрын

Yes I did. I wanted to see if drilling holes was a plausible way to make the bar lighter. As you might expect, the holes got filled with sawdust in big cuts and would get jammed up.

@renemir891 Жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus 🤦 I'm just gonna get a panther bar 😂

@zaccheus Жыл бұрын

@Leo comet I've been running a stihl light bar on my 201 most recently. It makes a noticeable difference to me. Probably a little easier to get. I'm not sure about the price difference though.

@br-dj2ti 2 жыл бұрын

And anytime I'm pulling a leaner over I always use a nice open face notch I personally do

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Thats probably a good policy to have, thanks for sharing

@drkwlsk 2 жыл бұрын

For some reason it always go too deep on my face cuts too, drives me nuts. Only need 1/3, then back cut

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, same for me. I think some of it has to do with tuning the cuts up sometimes. I guess the proper way is to make the top cut first. This might help kinda reel in the deep faces 😅

@justinsnyder6256 2 жыл бұрын

Id say on something like that a deep notch is better. Moves the center of gravity back and makes it easier to pull over.

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

@@justinsnyder6256 It does for sure! I think with a ton of weight up there it can be a little too risky sometimes. I also like that when the hinge is in the middle, it's as wide as it can be.

@jeffbeeckman8359 2 жыл бұрын

Bend ratio standard is 4:1 not 8:1

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

The last rope I bought came with documentation that said 8:1 🤷‍♂️

@jeffbeeckman8359 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus weird, what rope is it?

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffbeeckman8359 The rope was double braid pelican rope. I think I've seen it elsewhere since, but I can't remember where. I just looked it up and samson recommends 8:1 for braided rope over a sheave, 10:1 for twisted rope over a sheave and a couple other ratios for other applications like thimbles and the like.

@jeffbeeckman8359 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaccheus interesting, everything ive ready is from arboriculture and isa literature, never looked at the specs from the actual rope manufacturers

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffbeeckman8359 🤷‍♂️ it almost doesn't natter because nobody makes big enough blocks. It does make a good case against using rings though 😬

@kiloton1920 2 жыл бұрын

I have a massive phototrophic bay tree leaning over the house I rent but the landlord is too cheap to remove it

@zaccheus 2 жыл бұрын

That's the worst. Cheap landlords are a pain. Hopefully you don't have to sleep under it and landlord is only gambling with the wellbeing of his property and not your life.