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Moral of the Story: If you make a Phyrexian, give it just enough individuality to be more effective. If its too much, throw it into the reprocesor and start again.

"The greatest of grandfathers, yawgmoth" sounds like a card for march of the machines with an elder artificer typing

A few more branches on the tree: -Karn was born not just of oil, but also by his heartstone, coming from Xantcha, who also ultimately stems from Yawgmoth. -Karn was built by Urza and Barrin. He effectively had two fathers with an egg(heart) donor. -Barrin had a daughter with Rayne. Said daughter, Hanna, was effectively Karn's half-sister. -Urza's Bloodline Project may have steered Rayne to Barrin, and even shaped her own lineage; it was never fully confirmed tho it was suspected. Just something to consider. -While Harbin may not have been Urza's son (still up in the air), he was still of Urza's heritage given he'd at least be Mishra's son. Harbin is either Karn's half-brother or cousin. By extension, Jarsyl is in the mix, and more pertinently to the present moment, Jodah. ...at this point, I'm not sure which has ultimately inflicted the more complicated family history upon themselves involving robots and genocidal maniacs, Urza, or Marvel's Hank Pym.

I have this feeling that this big ass Phyrexian insect that spawns little minions and is too scary to confront alone will survive the dross pits easily

You can also tell that alot of these new gen phyrexians are more emotional and humanlike by how theyve lost there artifact creature typing

Small correction: Karn’s Glistening Oil actually came from Xantcha’s heartstone, which was used to make him in the first place.

And with this lore, Ixhel may be my first favorite phyrexian after Urabrask.

I'm calling it now, Ixhel will meet Urabrask and gain red in her color identity. She'll rebel against the machine orthodoxy and gain her own planeswalker spark.

I can't help but consistently wonder, what would Yawgmoth think of New Phyrexia

Pretty sure Vish will be fine on his own especially when he still seems to have the memories and cunning of Geth

Ixhel is most likely prone to personal choice due to the lack of blue mana influencing her. Blue is often associated with control. She’s obviously still obedient to the mom and grandma, but she’s more likely to do things of her own volition. She’s doing things to impress them, but she has a creative fluidity they lack. Where she saw her spawn as a “gift I put thought into to impress my mom”- Atraxa (and likely Elesh) can only see and focus on the fact it was made from an individualistic thought process. The creativity without prompting is disturbing to them. Heck if Urabrask had participated Atraxa probably would’ve ended up hard to control. Potentially more wild and aggressive. I think the mana that prompts the creativity/free will of this family tree is the green mana. Green is associated with strength AND creation. While the colors that align with full phyrexian loyalty are black and white- the color combos of the two most important figures in Phyrexian genealogy, Yawgmoth and Elesh.

so the oil is the jizz, and mirrodin is the egg, and yawgmoth was the one jizzing into the multiverse. just goes to show what happens if you dont wear protection!

I'm starting to think that Sheoldred is starting to "wake up" a little, much like Urabrask, though she may just be done with Norn's first among equals shtick.

Teferi: So what does that make us? Elish Norn: Absolutely nothing! Which you'll soon be.

Hoping Ixhel goes good guy and teams up with grandad Karn

I'm really glad you touched on the concept of oil lineage since that's a really cool part of Phyrexian lore I wish they elaborated upon more! More thoughts: -Oil transmits memory, not just heredity -It's possible that the oil Karn dropped came from Xantcha's heartstone, making her the last common ancestor of the New Phyrexians -Jin-Gitaxias is also a known Phyrexian parent -Germs and newts are created from repurposed flesh too, and grow into core-born Phyrexians I'm glad they're finally showing the diversity of Phyrexians as people, too. Ixhel's story I especially loved as an example of a Phyrexian being a person and an exploration of the generational trauma that Norn's tyranny and Atraxa's forced compleation imposes further down the line.

I would LOVE a twist of a resurgence of Yawgmoth, who had “horcruxed” their consciousness into the oil of the legacy weapon. Imagine a Karnmoth that can escape using a spark! But then again, I like the idea of perished characters that have a legitimate legacy that evolves to become its own thing too.

I never knew that Atraxa didn't have red in her CC because Urabrask refused to participate in her creation. I wish WotC would put more effort into getting the lore of sets out there.

My fear for the future of the Phyrexia story is that time travel will simply reset all event an dbring back our beloved planes walkers. My Hope is that this growing individualism amongst the phyrexians is a new contagious nature that begins spreading beyond just the red aligned and we end up with a phyrexian civil war. I can imagine that the completion of the palneswalkers isn't as perfect as they think and all of them will rebel with the possible exception of Ajani just to give us an emotional gut punch. My bigger wonder is if now is the true time for Emrakul to make herself known and what an eldrazi corrupted phyrexian would end up like. 😰

So that's why Atraxa is called the greater unifier. I always thought she was the boss due to all the mana colors and wondered why Elesh Norn and other praetors were more mention than her.

I am pretty sure the root of Karn's relation to the oil is actually from the phyrexian Heartstone that powered him before he became a planeswalker.

NGL, I think leaning on this would be a super cool way to save our Completed Planeswalkers. All of them are already rebellious in nature- given the whole walking-between-worlds thing, and I think it would be neat and also fit the themes of the Phyrexia story to have them turn on Elesh Norn and seek out their individuality again.

That was exactly something I was looking for, thanks :D This would make an awesome themed commander deck!

What a happy family 😃 Awesome video!

Love your content keep doing what your doing

Dope, thanks for this breakdown. It can get kinda confusing over time

the 'music for manatees' track just primes my brain for learning, I hear it and a whole new part of my brain just opens up ready to absorb knowledge

I hope Ixhel gets red mana at some point. It would make sense considering she aligns compleately with the ideology of the Great Work. It would also make her a 4 color angel, just like Aatroxa.

maaan if Ixhel ultimately turned away from the machine orthodoxy and just became her own free-thinking character, that would be seriously wild \o/

Real nice, always cool to know more lore 'bout my latest commander :3

There's something about Red Mana being missing in phyrexia

So maybe there is actually hope that the defeat of New Phyrexia will come from within? Perhaps someone like Ixhel will destroy Elesh Norn or Atraxa out of anger that she can't be free. Also personally, I absolutely LOVE the Avens of Otaria and nothing would make me happier than if someone the good guys found a way to revive Kangee or some others of his Order in order to glean their knowledge of how they defeated the Phyrexian invasion before they could even land their ships. I mean Kangee's text is so damn cool in reference to the first Phyrexian invasion "Let their horrors and machines come. We will meet them blow for blow." SKY DADDY begs for a resurrection, CAW CAW

Poor Ixhel, I can just imagen her watching the skuttling Vishgraz crawl into the swamps to it's last days of life and her having that moment of despair, like a mother seeing her child for the last time.

I'm hoping Ixhel gets a spark. having her mother and grandmother try and hunt her down, pushing her further to maybe become one of the anti-hero/team gatewatch characters for the future. we lost so many great plains walkers already, it would be cool to see us get one back like this.

Karn: You're all adopted

I would really like to see a detailed physiology and biological breakdown of some phyrexians, like what makes the metal "Living metal" do they breathe, how do they survive, do they need to eat and drink. what gives them still sentience, is the brain still organic, like an exoskeleton around a normal organic brain with corrupted thinking? What can or cannot be corrupted/compleated, could dragons, and elder dragons or eldrazi be compleated, are phyrexians susceptible to the warping and similar infection eldrazi cause?

Very cool, Seiben, thanks!

Yawgmoth didn’t create the oil. It and the original world of phyrexia existed before him, the creation of some “dragon form” planeswalker. Yawgmoth only corrupted what was there. Makes you think, after this group of phyrexians are dealt with, maybe the true grandfather of machines will make an appearance.

Elesh Norn is absolutely 100% Mommy Dommy.

Love your videos ❤ they really make the lore just edible

Congrats on 100k brother. I've been around since the 15k days and I'm proud to be able to watch this channel grow so

This story really intrigue me, but in a different way. In streets of new cappenna story they mentioned angels and a delimited city protected against a phyrexian invasion. Seems interesting.

But the praetors ignore Memnarch right? Even though he was the one who spread the oil in Mirrodin after Karn left a trace on the plane? I recall that at first some of them viewed Karn as the successor of Yaghmoth.

I think urza should have had a mention on there. If anything, as a creator of a failed branch in the tree. Sure he created karn with phyrexian parts. Durning the invasion of dominaria, one of yagmoths generals disected a metathran general and stated it closely resembled a phyrexian in many ways. She then wondered if the invadion had not happened, how long it would have taken urza to transform the plane into something that mirrored phirexia. Imagine our surprise when that is exactly what happened to karns created world.

need the elesh norn gif in the opening for a wallpaper

Urabrask be like nah fam I'm busy yall do you though

So you're basically telling me that Ixhel is a sweetheart somewhere deep inside. That's actually kinda wholesome.

Gotta love that hardcore DIY attitude!

You know garouk is out there fighting these phyrecians right now

I still wonder how the Praetors were born. Like which Mirran creature/creatures birthed Norn and so on.

"What crossed her mind defied Orthodoxy: could there be perfection beyond compleation?"

I have absolutely no idea about anything going on here. Don’t even know what franchise/world this is from. But I’ll sit here and listen to lore anyway.

Didnt even know they were a family....

If Emerkul returns She will just corrupt the Phyrexians

Elesh Norn dreams of flesh too, so I'm not that certain she'd never have a hint of motherly feelings

Would love another Planar Chaos style set with alternate morality verions of the planeswalkers + main characters. Good Nicol Bolas, Mishra, Phyrexians, Oko, Tibalt, Eldrazi, etc. Evil versions of the gatewatch.

Does Yawgmoth really get credit for the first phyrexians? Seeing as he only discovered the plan and it’s dead god. Granted he is still the father of machines .

Was phyrexian oil already a thing on the plane when Yawgmoth was first brought to the unnamed plane that he would call phyrexia? So I would necessarily say he created it. Diphed performed an ancient spell which bound the plane to yawgmoth or something like that which made him the god of the plane which is why I think glistening oil spreads the will of yawgmoth.

So urza should be on the family tree too lol. Yawgmoth and Urza are at fault for new phyrexia

I'm still waiting for the eldrazi to come to phyrexia. I wonder how that will play out

Ixhel's story is my favorite out of all of the Phyrexian lore. She shows that underneath all their programming that something human-like stirs when they are allowed to do things like other people in the plane would....even if her method of progenerating is a little weird to us. Vish is her child and part of her didn't want to see them simply fade from existence just for a second. It makes you wonder if Phyrexians were freed of the subservience of The One would they eventually just revert to being like us in their desires and emotions? Or would they refine it into something more twisted because they are so like other people of the plans.

I've never heard of the character Uhtrawksaw

Love the family twisted history!!

It's kinda weird how Birthing New phyrexians the old fashion way is literally the opposite to how transformers used to give birth; in short, their god primus birthed X number of bots from his planet body they then divided like cells till a set number was reached, but in transformers generation 2 some decepticons rediscovered how to give birth and reproduced to build an army but the new borns lacked emotion or mercy. but for phyrexians they MENTALLY evolve moving past flawed ideals and develop individuality, considering aside from atraxa being born from 4/5 phyrexians pumping their mana into her... was it explained how atraxa did it or was it she found a dude with one mana color and supplyed the rest?

I run vishgraz as a commander, my boy was done so dirty man.

" A TROX A ??? " atraxa A TRAXA

As a 40k admech fan, the Phyrexians are right up my ally. Great work!

Does anyone know about the being that yawgmoth extracted the glistening oil from? Could that come up?

I think you mean the Oil-line of Atraxa

Simon, you’re opening a dangerous can of worms here…

Is this to speculate that eventually, the oiled up phyrezians will become so diluted they go back to normal?

wonder if Norns grandchild will hook up with Urabrask ?That Mothers drive ,the Individualism to watch your offspring to grow and prosper with granting freedom .

let me know if im wrong, but karn is unaffected by the glistening oil not because of his planeswalker spark, but because he is not made of flesh correct? because there are multiple planeswalkers that have been compleated, so their planeswalker spark would have little to do with their resistance to the oil

What about k'rrik, son of yawgmoth? Isn't he the second generation, or am I overthinking things, but it is interesting how phyrexians reproduce

Don't forget that some phyrexians can be born entirely from the oil (no organics needed) this however was more common on old phyrexia.

It sounds like the phyrexians spent too much time in the breeding pool!

a retrain of glistening oil would be an artifact named "phyrexian oil" a mana colorless artifact, with equip 0. it has "equiped creature is a phyrexian in adition to it's other types and has poison 1.

inb4 Chad Vishgraz shows up, saves an entire plane of existence, leaves the plane to it's own devices out of honor for it's mother's individualism that created him, creating a pattern in it's actions of helping people until it finally awakens it's spark.

is the angel on victory’s herald the actual angel that became atraxa? or is that just the best approximation we have?

Man MTG would make a pretty cool anime. Heck it could be multiple spin offs under the same banner or just an anthology

I miss the old Phyrexians and how creepy they looked

I’d say it’s the “oilline” of Atraxa

So, if we have a phyerxian that think induvial for themselves, that can think from right and wrong; is it possible to have a phyerxian turn good and help our heroes at the next phyerxian invasion?

So if you think about it elesh norn is like emperor palpatine and atraxa would be darth vader and thats another reason why they are missing the red mana because he was burned by the lava on mustafar one would say is mountains and red mana so yeah thats why they have no alignment to red. I hope theres some cool version of atraxa card either pre phyrexian or like maybe after somehow saved by some ultra purifying power.

I really feel that Ixhel will be the new "Mother of machines" or at least the new leader of white mana at the end of the phyrexian block

fucking love this bro, keep it up.

How does memnarc get organic life from other planes to mirodin? By that logic shouldn’t he be able to transport him self to other planes with that same ability? Doing exactly what he wanted. It makes no sense.

Part of Memnarch's history is wrong in this... Karn was still a planeswalker when he created mirrodin. He created it as a perfect plane, free from the problems of normal planes. Everything was made of metal and had geometrically and symmetrically perfect patterns. Memnarch was created originally to follow him around when he visited other planes and collect samples of life. Throughout the Mirrodin saga Glissa has dreams of this abduction. But the lifeforms are put onto mirrodin to populate it. The lifeforms adapted and grew with metal in their DNA. They had to survive things like razorgrass and the tangle, to name a couple deadly hazards. Karn leaves the planet to Memnarch to watch over it and doesnt come back for a VERY long time, in fact, Karn is considered missing during this time period. Memnarch becomes lonely and starts looking for ways to get off the plane and eventually finds out that with this new plane comes a new spark. So he spends generations searching for it with machines like Myr and (cant remember the name of the bulldozer things), as well as using his influence amongst the populations. MEMNARCH HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE OIL IS OR WHAT IT IS DOING UNTIL HE IS ABOUT TO DIE--- i believe its the first chapter of the first book he finds oil and has no clue what it is and shrugs it off.The ending in his lab is where he talks about not paying attention to it. If anything, Geth knows more about the oil than Memnarch ever did. When the story comes to an end, Glissa dies while killing Memnarch who is trying to get the spark he thinks she has. But Slobad is the one ends up with the spark. Karn shows up and shows Slobad what the power of a planeswalker is like, and within a short span of time they experience several other planes and he feels the power of being a planeswalker. When they get back Slobad doesnt care because his best friend (glissa) is dead and Karn tells him that he can give up the spark to bring her back to life and he quickly agrees. Karn apologizes, feels bad, and takes off. He was a PW the entire time, and he brought the oil to Mirrodin where it slowly grew into the threat it became. The metal nature of mirrodin was perfect for it and made the phyrexians that we're so familiar with today. Before mirrodin, phyrexians were not primarily metal (See early phyrexian cards). sorry but Mirrodin was my favorite part of the magic story. Memnarch is truly a fascinating villain, with just about NO CLUE the oil is doing what its doing. He just wanted to get TF off that plane because he was lonely. Literally, because he was going mad from being lonely and injecting himself with serum to try and leave.

So if the oil connects everyone to the one will and if the newer generations of phyrexian having thoughts and feelings that shouldn´t be possible does that mean the oil get´s weakened everytime a phyrexian creates a new one from itself ?

who bets Ixhel gest bit more red and joins Urabrask

Ya know, I was thinking about it and I remember being a teenager when New Phyrexia came out and being like oh man there's so many story possibilities with them and gotta say I think their current strategy of sprinkling in Preators in other sets should have happened years ago (while keeping the actual big crossover event around now) and been used to build up they are acting in the background while Bolas was the big bad. Or had a core set that was the New Phyrexian civil war and gave us a peek into that madness before they did it. I know they wanted to keep em on the back burner and mysterious but I don't think that was the right call. Like 1.) Bolas got like 12 years of build up and NP gets like 3 which I would switch those around in a second if I could. They coulda sprinkled them in and had their plan be mysterious and imply how apocalyptic it could potentially be and had them feel more like characters with agency (as much as a Phyrexian has agency) working towards a goal instead of the designated new big bad. and 2.) I will never understand why we didn't get that New Phyrexian civil war where Elesh Norn became Mother of Machine as a set. Like with some of the weaker over the years I just thought we coulda had that phantasmorgical body horror bonanaza and instead it was mentioned in a couple sentences in a lore article with no details and we found out Norn, Sheoldred, Jin-Gitaxis, and Vorinclex made a bff horrifying angel abomination together which while exactly on brand for them doesn't change the fact that I want that set more than anything. Hindsight is 20/20 though so what can ya do. My first set was Scars of Mirrodin after I read a lot of the novels so I'm pretty invested in these sick surgery addicted freaks and definitely think they deserved more of the spotlight over the years of Bolas going mwahaha just as planned.

Physical completion was always more intrusive and mechanical until the last couple stories with new phirexia

what is the background music used in this video?

Where is the animated intro from?

Zendikarian Eldrazi should have been a natural enemies for these borg monsters, shame they never made this story line.

Oh I see how it is. Seiben talks about how Phyrexians have kids and he gets 40K+ views _I_ talk about how Phyrexians have kids and I'm escorted out of the nursing home

Where is this lore from? I never saw it in the stories?

So why Ixhel has no blue mana like his mother?

Is not birds and bees, is Ikea