Physician Assistant Analysis: Jordan Peterson & Benzodiazepines

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Benzodiazepine Information Coalition

4 жыл бұрын

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A Physician Assistant and Medical Advisory Board Member at the nonprofit, Benzodiazepine Information Coalition (www.benzoinfo.com), gives commentary on benzodiazepines and in response to the February 2020 Peterson Family Update.
Timestamps:
0:32 disclaimer
0:57 low dose clonazepam (generic Klonopin) and length of prescription
2:17 prescribed physical dependency, paradoxical reactions and withdrawal
8:26 akathisia and suicidal
9:37 failed treatment, tapering and micro-tapering
12:33 emergency detox in Russia, detox centers, cold turkey
15:19 pneumonia, fluoroquinolone, ICU, informed consent, disabling withdrawal syndromes
17:51 physiological damage, recovery, protracted withdrawal syndromes, iatrogenic
20:51 physical dependence vs addiction, media misrepresentation, false sense of security
25:04 hoping for a full recovery, timeline for healing, lucky to be alive, not just withdrawal, death
27:08 conclusion
Link to Peterson Family Update - February 2020: • Video
Potency/equivalence chart of the various benzodiazepines ("low doses" often aren't that low): www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha...
Paradoxical Effects: benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha01.h...
Akathisia Information: missd.co
The Ashton Manual on why updosing/reinstatement sometimes fails (scroll down to the "Reinstatement, Updosing" section): benzo.org.uk/ashsupp11.htm
Why Prescribed Benzo Patients Shouldn't Go To Detox or Rehab: www.benzoinfo.com/2018/04/20/...
Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics Displace Benzodiazepines from their Binding Sites (see #3): benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha00.htm
FDA document on terminology/definitions, physical dependence and addiction (they are not synonymous): www.fda.gov/media/128443/down...
For info on safer tapering, Nicole also cofounded ‘The Withdrawal Project’: withdrawal.theinnercompass.org
This video has been made available for informational and educational purposes only. This video does not substitute professional medical advice, and no doctor-patient relationship is formed through the video. This video is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

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@mikhaila 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Spot on.

@snafu22 4 жыл бұрын

Mikhaila Peterson firstly, sorry your dad has to go through this, it's horrific and at 28 mths off today and still non functioning and homebound with symptoms I know only too well his pain. And the lack of knowledge, validation and complete ignorance from the medical community is nothing short of disgusting. However, we all hope that when this ends for your Dad that he takes a stand and uses his experience, knowledge, position and power to fight for all of us that don't have these tools at our disposal as this catastrophe extends to anti-depressants as well and is affecting thousands upon thousands world wide. After recovery, he now has an opportunity to make a difference in people's lives that will be bigger and can be his legacy above and beyond all of his life's work prior to this combined. I hope all of us to recover from this.....yesterday!

@yuliyalakey2940 4 жыл бұрын

Mikhaila, best wishes to your dad and your family. Have you checked out benzobuddies.org? You or your dad can ask questions and get support there anonymously.

@hbishop8475 4 жыл бұрын

Your family is in my prayers.

@TJ-kk5zf 4 жыл бұрын

wow... how wonderful to hear from you Mikhaila! I think of you all daily and pray for your father's full recovery. We need you both.

@giaatta9303 4 жыл бұрын

Missing your dad. I think of him and your family each and every day. I went to see him twice last year. Lost 45 pounds thanks to him and you. I love your dad like the father I never had. Loved his books. I still watch his videos. I wish him a speedy recovery. Happy to hear mom is doing better. Keep doing what you are doing. You are a wonderful and brave daughter for your dad. 💓💓thank you.

@bethlubisch923 4 жыл бұрын

I wish we would have heard this 5 years ago. A "Benzo Expert" at Aventura Psychiatric hospital in Aventura Florida, took my Mother off of 3mgs of Klonapin cold turkey and she started going crazy and I asked him when she was going to get better and he said that she's already finished withdrawing. This was three days after she stopped. He said her hysteria was her real personality. She suffered a major hemorragic stroke not too long after this. I wish that I could put that man in jail.

@bethlubisch923 4 жыл бұрын

@Love One another she's crippled for life. Half paralyzed. I think we're beyond our statute of limitations but I'd like to look into it.

@GeraltOfRivia99 3 жыл бұрын

@@bethlubisch923 i feel for you dude ive gone through this myself. i had doctors say yeah no problem just taper quickly. i have no effin CLUE who told them that. but they are flat out wrong and need to be put in jail and sued from such carrless care of becoming a doctor. they need to learn how to hire doctors who talk to people and understand them rather than in 2 minutes kick you out the door. i know there dirty tricks and carelessness and to be a doctor you need to be balanced mentally... not someone who gets flustered and ahead of themself and doesnt give pateients the help they need especially after knowing they have been on a terrible drug! i hope things improve for you. there is also ways to rebuild your moms damaged nervous system. look into dr amens work he does have a good suppliment aiding in restoring damage to brain. not just him but he sells a good one called brain and body power max which has helped tons of people neurologically. keto could be a great option to because that diet is a mood stabalizer in itself the keytones increase gaba and seratonin naturally. check out your options ive seen people recover from bad damage and get there life back

@lep2525 3 жыл бұрын

Did she ever get better? My mom is going through the same thing

@oldtc3615 4 ай бұрын

I just came home from a therapist. Nothing like being gaslighted by even therapists. Thats what it is... "prove you where damaged by the meds". Meanwhile they make statements like "that's your true personality" when withdrawing. LOL prove that is my personality quack.

@Xerox-1961 Ай бұрын

@@bethlubisch923 This happened to me. i am still on them 15 years later. I've tried to stop 6 times and hallucinated and ended up in the hospital twice, almost arrested, all because I tried to stop klonopin. I am now told that I have to take it for life. half of the time I can't remember my name. I'm 62 and terrified of dementia because of this. I actually went to rehab to get off and I lasted 17 days. There is no pleasant feeling from them, But within fifteen days I go from being nervous and sleepless to hallucinating and a raving lunatic. They had to strap me to the bed and I do not remember anything. The dr. said that it takes years to get off it at all possible. I'm sorry that happened to her, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

@oldtc3615 Жыл бұрын

I am not going into EVERYTHING. However after years on Klonopin I developed POTS like symptoms and could not even get out of bed, lost 80 lb. I had "panic attacks" one hour before and after each dose. 2 Years later after a too fast tapper off in 1 week in a mental intuition I am doing way better but still have a long way to go. Damage done not recognized by doctors as they try to prescribe me more crap that makes me feel worse despite me actually improving slowly. I no longer bother going to the doctors. Today I managed to ride my bike 1 mile.

@siobhanmcneenan3253 4 ай бұрын

Well done ! I really appreciate you sharing. Thank you

@sydneyfox3563 4 жыл бұрын

Wow. This woman did an absolutely fantastic, concise, ultra-professional, expert job of explaining and clarifying the complex issues involved. I only see her first name: Nicole. Nicole, you did a spectacular public service with your explanation! Wow. You only realize how difficult it is to explain and teach properly when you see someone do it like Nicole. She's one in a million. (I happen to enjoy Jordan Peterson a lot, but I've always been puzzled by his uncritical acceptance of neurotoxic psychiatric pharma. I expect that in the future he'll let the public know his thoughts on all of this. I wish him well. I wouldn't take psychiatric pharma, or allow any of my loved ones to take any of it, if you paid me.)

@mikimiyazaki 4 жыл бұрын

What if they needed it?

@jeffersonott4357 4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I was very impresses with her knowledge, presentation, and compassion. Kudos to you!

@veryskeptical2409 3 жыл бұрын

@@mikimiyazaki Needing it is OK however using it long term is not. Similar to Oxycontin. Short term is fine...should never be used long term.

@leskac5295 5 ай бұрын

What if it's been prescribed by family doctor and you do not realize it is psychiatric pharma...this is what's happened to my wife...already 8 months from too fast,forced tapering snd still in hell. If we knew it all before stopping ordered by doctor...:(((

@Rocketfua21 4 жыл бұрын

God help this man recover and return him to good health and happiness. Amen

@nonosays 4 жыл бұрын

If an intelligent psychologist can be duped into taking a drug and a dose he thinks is OK, how vulnerable are average patients without professional knowledge of pharmaceuticals? This situation with Jordan Peterson is a disgrace and a tragedy.

@ntodd4110 4 жыл бұрын

@Lisa Lotek Not just his followers; his opponents as well.

@monadyne 4 жыл бұрын

What kills me is, how did the psychiatrist who prescribed the drug not know he was putting his patient in harm's way? I think a lot of the reality of Dr. Peterson's situation is being deflected by his "paradoxical reaction" ...like the problem is that for some obscure reason, his own body caused all the trouble he's endured. That's not the case! He had the paradoxical reaction, but then could not discontinue taking the drug. It was all the horrors that appeared upon attempts at discontinuation that was so problematic.

@lordofthewoods 4 жыл бұрын

@ Noelle: Your comment parallels one I was just about to make... How could someone as smart as Peterson think that enduring serenity, a "good mood", or the like... can or even SHOULD be had from a pill?

@monadyne 4 жыл бұрын

@Buckshot 87 I think the "duped" component is that neither Dr. Peterson, nor you, nor I were ever told by the prescribing doctor that "this drug will be profoundly helpful to you... for a while. After that, it will cause 'rebound anxiety' greater than what you're experiencing now, and when you try to get off of it, you'll potentially experience unspeakable, unimaginable horrors. Still wanna take it?" That is INFORMED CONSENT, and that's what the bill in Massachusetts wants to insist upon for patients.

@bransan97 4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Peterson got no professional knowledge about pharmaceuticals. Psychiatrists get such training not psychologists.

@TJ-kk5zf 4 жыл бұрын

During this time when so many horrible people are trying to capitalize on Doctor Peterson's tragedy or worse yet, take the opportunity to trash him while he's sick, thank you for this very informative and compassionate video.

@poepflater 4 жыл бұрын

His pain was often palpable when he talked about difficult things. I hope he is in a better place now, away from the limelight for a while.

@TJ-kk5zf 4 жыл бұрын

@Karen Brock fair enough. but people beating up on him now is unspeakably inhumane

@ExpandMyLife 4 жыл бұрын

@Karen Brock Dr. Peterson didn't have a drug addiction he had a physical drug dependency there is a huge difference, you either didn't watch the above video to its completion or you didn't understand the information provided therein.

@unwashedmime 4 жыл бұрын

@Karen Brock did you even watch either video?

@TJ-kk5zf 4 жыл бұрын

@Karen Brock Do you take medicine? ? That wasn't even my point. My point was that some people are delighting in his suffering and that's evil.

@BenzoBrains 4 жыл бұрын

Great job. So many people are finding the information they need now because of Dr. Peterson's story. Whatever your feelings about him personally, he is doing so much good by being open about his benzo injury. All benzo warriors deserve our full support ❤

@DavidWaeldervideo 4 жыл бұрын

Benzos brains ! You helped me so much. Thank you

@BenzoBrains 4 жыл бұрын

@@DavidWaeldervideo that makes me so happy to hear!

@joqiii3 4 жыл бұрын

Benzo Brains Hopefully, Peterson will create a platform to inform people about what he went through, plus info on psychiatrists and and how little they really know about long term use of benzos.

@mariaguzman1552 4 жыл бұрын

Benzo Brains I agree, Dr Peterson is showing us how imperfect he is, just like the rest of us. I wish more Professionals would be as honest.

@missk1942 4 жыл бұрын

Karma.

@pl-tq9py 4 жыл бұрын

This video is absolutely out standing. Very well put together and every word the complete truth. From a fellow benzodiazepine soul walking the journey back home. I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy. Thank you for everything.❤️ People really need to start waking up. I pray they get to see this an the lid blows on all this and what the doctors & big pHARMA are doing to human beings. God bless us all on this journey ✨❤️

@THXx1138 4 жыл бұрын

I was in tears thru the entire thing!! It is without question the most important, powerful, accurate, all encompassing statement of truth on this topic I have ever heard. I am sharing it everywhere ! I even made a Twitter account just for this purpose! Keep going. We are not forgotten!!!

@aether-elephant 4 жыл бұрын

We're pharma's wives!

@nathanashley2693 4 жыл бұрын

no ur just a loser sorry

@jeffcarter1310 4 жыл бұрын

Nathan Ashley wtf is wrong with you? Who says ugly things like what you just said? You’ve got real problems. Seek professional help, so the ripple effect doesn’t cast a dark shadow over everyone that has contact with you.

@auniquehandle 4 жыл бұрын

@@nathanashley2693 oh look i found the real loser omegalol

@Hitit123 4 жыл бұрын

I'm now seventeen post Klonopin WD after an initial thirteen month taper. I was on the aforementioned drug for over seventeen years along with a multitude of other RX drugs...I now take zero rx drugs. In closing I fully support this video and applaud people like her know speak the TRUTH.👊

@nataliemiles4430 9 ай бұрын

I pray you are doing well

@deep6301 8 ай бұрын

Congratulations!

@kingdomthings9887 4 жыл бұрын

I'm praying for healing, for folks who are walking thru this awful battle 👑

@paulajanson8053 4 жыл бұрын

My addiction to Ativan nearly destroyed my life. I didn't even realize I was addicted because I was "only" taking 1-3 mg per day. I took this drug for 6 years. I attempted suicide in 2015. My son was not at all supportive and removed himself from my life. I immediately stopped taking all medications and have been medication free for 4 years. My son and I began talking again 2 years ago. I have come a long way in the past 4 years. The irony for me is that listening to Jordan Peterson lectures and podcasts have helped me immensely. I have the utmost respect for this man. I pray that he has a full recovery and is able to continue his great work. He has helped so many of us. Thank you Jordan. May God be with you.

@deborahanne9793 4 жыл бұрын

Hi,. I am interested in what the ATivan was doing that nearly destroyed your life? What were your reactions to it? Thank you.

@keeptrying5962 4 жыл бұрын

Same (or at least very similar), Paula. Klonopin (clonazepam) for me, only 1 mg daily for a fewmonths. The taper was nearly a year. That sounds crazy, even to me, but the long taper was necessary for me. JBP helped me during the long recovery! His lectures were something positive and motivating, hopeful. I kept hearing his words about 'voluntarily exposing myself to that which scares me' and doing so. (My brain felt damaged, everything was over-stimulating, driving on a busy road was overwhelming, for instance. Freaking nightmare.) I have to say, I've been surprised JBP never had a patient/client who struggled with these hideous benzos, that he didn't know. My heart goes out to him. Glad to hear you recovered too and that things are getting sorted out.

@jillmappin3316 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations Paula, I empathize and have great respect for people who have managed to discontinue The seemingly subtle effects of benzos takes hold in a way that’s very hard to imagine unless experienced.

@garethhowarddavies1689 4 жыл бұрын

Is Ativan the same thing as Lorazepam?

@jillmappin3316 4 жыл бұрын

Gareth Howard Davies yes

@Cyberdemon1542 4 жыл бұрын

PLEASE HAVE A PODCAST WITH DR PETERSON WHEN HE GETS BETTER!!!!!!

@TheChristIsKing 4 жыл бұрын

This

@keithkieran 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks to Mikhaila, her husband Andre, and Dr Peterson himself it looks like the world will continue to be blessed by this man and his family for some time to come, thank God. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/feCClah-39iUm2w.html

@Tommy1977777 3 жыл бұрын

agreed. id watch it a few times.

@presterjohn1697 3 жыл бұрын

Simply won't happen. Peterson has no interest in calling out the Wall Street companies who push this vile poison. It would call into question his whole pro-capitalism/anti-regulation philosophy. Just think of it. The man ran to Eastern Society (Russia) to fix a problem caused by Western Society (Big Pharma). Peterson's touts the West as the greatest thing imaginable, yet that same system fried his brain in a barbaric manner with NO accountability whatsoever. His brain will forever be toast.

@presterjohn1697 3 жыл бұрын

@@keithkieran Well from the looks of it, the people who take this poison are screwed beyond belief and the makers of the drug are abundantly blessed and will NOT be held accountable. How about you pray that God evens the score because Peterson sure as hell isn't gonna do it.

@johnw.ryoniv8953 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for explaining this. It's been 6 years for me with no end in sight. Now I don't feel so alone and insane, because all my doctors just called me a drug addict or labeled me psychosomatic, which is infuriating. The ONLY reason I am alive today is because I found our Heavenly Father through this ordeal. I had my suicide plan ready to go for the next time I could not withstand the pain, but praise our Father in Heaven I will make it through with His help.

@SuperReznative 5 ай бұрын

My prior faith,& Jesus helped me through the withdrawal, over a decade without phsyc meds & the few people who know me , before and after see me as 100% better, without the meds.

@user-bz4bn8dz9u 12 күн бұрын

They labeled me the same

@melissab4710 4 жыл бұрын

Akathisia is like having an exorcism that is magnified by 1000. It is literally the worst experience on the face of this earth. It made me want to drive my car at full speed onto the path of an oncoming train. I have to go through that experience at some stage in order to get off the drugs I was prescribed for CPTSD. I’m dreading it.

@luzclara3855 4 жыл бұрын

BB God help you, bless you and protect you through that process, and beyond. I pray for you and your full success getting off those drugs, very sincerely from my heart. I really wish you the very best in life: great peace, much love and infinite happiness. You can do it!

@2ndshooter688 4 жыл бұрын

I was put on Xanax to counteract akathisia. It worked for me. I then had to come off the Xanax but I didn't find that too difficult. Apparently, according to my family, I was out of my tree when I was on the Xanax but I had no clue. Might be an option for you? (I know this might seem counter intuitive, swapping one serious drug for another, but it worked out in the end). Best of luck to you!

@allencollins6031 3 жыл бұрын

U ok ?

@valeriezushin9419 2 жыл бұрын

@@idesigncutethings2196 Not just benzos , ssri’s can cause it as well .

@deep6301 8 ай бұрын

When I feel like a caged animal

@dianethomas7149 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you from the bottom of my heart! I have been trying to find the right resource in order to help convince a family member that these drugs are doing more harm than good. She has been taking prescribed benzos in addition to other psych meds for close to six years, and I don’t need to go into details. Once I found the Benzo Buddies sight, and now your site, I am convinced I finally have found a resource that will help her. Thank you for the gift of hope that you have provided to me today!

@PeterYost 10 ай бұрын

Very well said. The suffering this condition causes is beyond what anyone can imagine. Only we, the survivors, will totally understand the breath and depth of the unbearable pain. I feel JP has basically given up trying to explain his position on what happened for the same reason we all do. Nobody gets it and if they say they do, they really only get about 20% of it.

@ellaMel4632 18 күн бұрын

Hi, are you talking about Ativan? I am tapering benzo and looking for some information, another person’s experience and trying to survive somehow, although it feels like a lost battle. I’d appreciate your answer

@THXx1138 4 жыл бұрын

I am in tears!! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this outstanding video! You covered every aspect perfectly!! STOP IATROGENIC SUFFERING !!!!

@ErsanYolcu 4 жыл бұрын

Somebody gave a poison to my Internet dad Dr. Jordan B Peterson. I am so pissed off at the moment! How can this even be legal?! 🤬 I pray for him. I support him with all my heart.

@lauracarney7883 4 жыл бұрын

I really venerate him too.

@elsagrace3893 4 жыл бұрын

Dr. Peterson took the pills. The info has always been available to him.

@veenapaulson4934 4 жыл бұрын

Should not be happening to anyone!!! Pharma is passing out poisons. Not Testing..... Depopulation Agenda 2030.

@janinestokes4883 4 жыл бұрын

@@veenapaulson4934 WARRIOR..

@douglasjcox 4 жыл бұрын

Your "internet dad?"" Geez, that's really creepy.

@jsedmonds256 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for recording this and addressing the issues with benzodiazepine.

@ND-jz7yk 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Nicole! The work you are doing along with the BIC is truely inspiring and groundbreaking.

@jacobsladder8385 4 жыл бұрын

Why do doctors that prescribe these drugs not know all this information? This is so wrong. I hope Mr Peterson realizes what happened to him and joins the crusade and uses his status to help put an end to this .

@jacobsladder8385 4 жыл бұрын

@Tim Tully I totally agree BUT doctors need to start thinking for themselves and end the control that Big Pharma has on them. I mean they have to know but most likely are afraid to go against the hand that feeds them. I am 4 years off of a 3.5 year taper that started as a 5 day detox, then a reinstatement after 5 months of pure hell and I am still suffering greatly. This has to stop.

@jacobsladder8385 4 жыл бұрын

@Tim Tully Yea I know. Money is the root of most evil.

@ijtdkgtrd 4 жыл бұрын

@@jacobsladder8385 The love of money is the root of all evil

@danielscorner 4 жыл бұрын

jacobsladder greed is the root of all Evil. Not money :)

@sesevesp831 4 жыл бұрын

Doctors know it, i m a med student , majority of people don t follow the instructions you give them, in italy when i am you can also take them without recipe. Jordan peterson is a psicologist, he perfectly knew the riscks. People should enter psicoterapy for anxiety, but people don t want face pain and insist for the drugs. (Sorry for my eng)

@disturbed9309 4 жыл бұрын

This video is why Internet exsists! Thank you for the level-headed and informational, spot on description :) Keep it up!

@christinedeacutis5093 4 жыл бұрын

great job explaining all involved

@monadyne 4 жыл бұрын

Physician to Patient: "Well, perhaps the simplest and quickest way to deal with your issues is for me to prescribe for you a drug called Xanax, a tranquilizer of the benzodiazepine family. Have you ever heard of Valium? Yes? Well, it's like Valium but twenty times stronger. Anyway, if you take it your discomfort will go away instantly, and that can feel like a blessed relief. However, if I prescribe this drug for a long period of time, anything beyond a couple of weeks, you run the risk of 'rebound anxiety' which is anxiety greater than what causes you to take a drug in the first place, and more importantly, the risk of experiencing a hellish, multi-year endless nightmare called 'Benzodiazepine Withdrawal Syndrome' should you ever try to go off the drug. In other words: quick fix, but potentially unimaginable hell ever trying to stop taking the drug. ...Now you're capable of 'informed consent' about whether to take the Xanax or not." What doctor has ever even mentioned the possible harm when first prescribing a benzo to a patient? That's right, none. They don't offer informed consent.

@danielfulop 4 жыл бұрын

benzodiazepine = Xanax?

@monadyne 4 жыл бұрын

@@danielfulop If you're asking whether Xanax is a benzodiazepine, then: "Yes, Xanax is a benzodiazepine. So are Ativan, Klonopin, and other prescribed drugs."

@brookenebergall4171 4 жыл бұрын

I have been offered informed consent in the past for benzos, thankfully! I wish they went more into detail as she did, but they did warn me.

@monadyne 4 жыл бұрын

@@brookenebergall4171 I'm shocked! I've never heard of anybody being warned about the potential problems with benzodiazepines.

@danielfulop 4 жыл бұрын

@@monadyne yes, that's what I was asking, thank you :) I don't know much about meds

@DouwedeJong 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video. Taking the effort and providing all the links is really appreciated.

@bobbiwilkins5485 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent Video. I wish I had been taught all this in PA School. I wish at least one of my healthcare providers had known this. I had akathisia for over 6 years with multiple severe symptoms, I would not wish this on anyone. I was abruptly stopped from Klonopin 1mg that I took only at night, only as prescribed, after a back injury, by Shand's in Florida. I was accused of Drug Abuse and the drug was abruptly discontinued. A slow taper is the only Safe Way off these drugs. It is unfortunate that Physicians/Healthcare workers are unaware of how these drugs affect our CNS and how to withdraw people from it. Hopefully this man's suffering will bring this to the forefront for others. I hope the man makes it. I will be 8 years off Klonopin in March 2020. I am hoping to be able to return to work later this year.

@THXx1138 4 жыл бұрын

So easy for me to break down in tears reading all of these comments. I am 10.5 months post taper off a benzo. I cold turkeyed another one 1.5 years ago - totally ignorant of the risks. My god. How does this not kill us??? It is an unfathomable torture with no relief. I had akathisia all of 2017 and into mid 2018 when it finally dissipated. The layers of various intense symptoms have also reduced over the years so I am far more hopeful as time moves forward. I hope so much that 2020 will bring noticeable healing to you Bobbi. How can we be injured like this with no legal recourse? Maybe now that a "celebrity" has suffered it can bring the issue into mainstream.

@paulnovak833 4 жыл бұрын

Are stories are extremely similar

@dianemorrell9638 Жыл бұрын

My God that blows my mind. You are my inspiration today ❤

@user-nc2kt8ze7o 10 ай бұрын

Is there any hope for People who can't afford private clinics?

@bobbiwilkins5485 10 ай бұрын

I lost all my healthcare because of an injury a doctor caused me. It's a miracle I am still alive, still healing and sill hoping to make a comeback so i can warn the others.

@sjk7995 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your expert information given w/o judgement of Mr. Peterson. We pray for him.

@hbishop8475 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your work. Since my early 20's, I've been prescribed by psychiatrists: benzos for anxiety, antidepressants for depression and anxiety, antiepileptics and antipsychotics for "mood stabilizing" for "possible bipolar disorder." While having acute mental health episodes, suicidal at times and uneducated about the risks of the medications, I was frantic to feel sane. Made my way through nursing school somehow with this cocktail on board. There, I learned pharmacology. I finally found a psychiatrist who insisted on talk therapy (bless her!!!). She has helped me slowly taper off both benzos and antipsychotics, with talk therapy continuing throughout the process. Both withdrawals were difficult but nothing like JP and others have gone through. I am forever grateful that I found her and she knew what she was doing. Interestingly, she is much younger than my previous psychiatrists. Maybe the newer generations will buck Big Pharma more than the older generations who were taught to "cure" everything with drugs, then manage side effects with more drugs, and on and on. We MUST continue to educate.

@premnarayansah9173 2 жыл бұрын

that is becuase your old doctor are comisioned by pharma companies and younger is still new may be later she will be commisioned and become and demon instead of doctor.

@nlr77777 4 ай бұрын

Who is your psychiatrist

@treenopie 4 жыл бұрын

I feel sad to hear you too went through this level of suffering. Thank you for elaborating and your efforts to alert people about the dangers.

@Yagdog1 4 жыл бұрын

I am so glad that Dr Peterson is on the mend! I am a fellow position assistant and I work in dialysis. You have opened up my mind to very insightful and meaningful information regarding benzodiazepines, addiction and dependence. I can't help but admire your articulate and professional delivery of said information. I've been praying for the Peterson family. It is an honor to serve with you as a fellow PA.

@georgea1116 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for posting this video. There was so much information to take in and digest personally. I appreciate you taking the time out share this valuable info. Thank you again.

@clairenj8751 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for this !!!

@sea_hous 4 жыл бұрын

Life saving work Nicole. Thank you.

@nancyjohnson9783 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this educational video. We have walked this walk blindly for two-plus years, trying to find help and information. Struggling people are following their doctor’s prescribed advice and suffering immeasurable harm.

@cherylbusch6236 4 жыл бұрын

What a stellar video regarding this all important subject. Thank you, thank you for posting-benzodiazepine sufferers thank you, their family and friends thank you and we who appreciate, Jordan Peterson, and are so very concerned for his welfare and future thank you...!

@emmanuelvacakis4463 4 жыл бұрын

My brother is suffering from every thing that you are saying. They all need to be sued for malpractice.

@vsiegel 4 жыл бұрын

I do not think it is necessarily malpractice - of course it may be. A patient does not take this substance because it is perfect, but because it is the best in the situation. For example, it can be a 10% risk going wrong, with long recovery. But 90% chance that the problem is just solved. It may be rational to take the risk. Of cause, it is understandable to be angry when it goes wrong, but maybe seeing it like this makes it easier to accept, reducing further suffering by anger and frustration (Not informing the patient about the risk may be malpractice)

@vcoonrod 4 жыл бұрын

No one should prescribe such a highly addictive medication. Sickos.

@vsiegel 4 жыл бұрын

@@vcoonrod But what should be done then, when it is the best available medication? Of course, it may be right to just not treat the problem, because the medication may make it worse. And what if the chances that it perfectly helps without addiction problem is 90% or so?

@rorytennes8576 4 жыл бұрын

@@vsiegel best for the situation?? No! Not best, easiest. Easiest for the doctor and easiest for the patient. But not best. Far from best.

@rorytennes8576 4 жыл бұрын

@@vsiegel it is NOT the best. It is the easiest. What should be done is find and address the real biological problems- the autoimmune problem- and any psychological and/ or emotion issues the person may be dealing with. Including stresses caused by any life situation.

@Lwayte 4 жыл бұрын

I am looking forward to JP recovering quickly and then hearing him discuss all this with us in his usual calm and enlightening manner. Thanks for this information.

@skywriter9359 4 жыл бұрын

Larry Wayte Pray for that- that is my prayer for him. So scary.

@paulnovak833 4 жыл бұрын

If it's as bad as they say then I can tell you, from personal experience, that it may be years before he's ready. It's taken me three years post benzos to feel like a human again

@kipling1957 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting this up. You are providing a valuable public information resource. I have subscribed just on the basis of this one video, but I look forward to seeing your other content.

@krisphiles 4 жыл бұрын

I am an independent clinical social worker and have used many of Jordan's concepts both with my clients and for myself and have the utmost respect for the depth of both his professional skill and his character, as far as I can see. I have dealt with clients suffering from tardive dyskinesia and akathesia and seen its effects personally. I am praying deeply for Jordan, his restoration, and his family's strength during this time. His contribution to society and, indeed, the world, cannot be overstated. All goodwill to the Petersons and recovery for Jordan are being sent your way. This is a trial of the severest kind and I am sorry it has been visited upon you.

@jessicafalstein 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent elucidation of every point raised.

@remnant.apothecary 7 ай бұрын

After nearly 20 years of prescribed use, I went to a rehab to try to get off benzos. I was taken off cold turkey and treated as a sud. After 4 days went into debilitating panic with severe stomach flu symptoms. After several days more, while the director of this Juno Beach facility treated me horribly as if I wasn't trying to attend meetings etc. I left and went back on medication. It took a long time to feel as if could function at all but this started another 5 years of tolerance and protracted injury while I tried to find help. I didn't know anything about this withdrawal syndrome. I finally did get off benzos but after a hellish journey with no help from many psychiatrist, trips to psychiatric hospitals; and misdiagnosed problems. I am so angry now about the years I have lost. I still have symptoms that I didn't associate until recently seeing information about this. This is 7 years later with painful neuropathy, cognitive loss, and a changed personality.

@y1521t21b5 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for this enlightening experience. I second yours and millions of others wishes that the great professor makes a speedy and full recovery.

@avahunkler4074 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for clarifying for the public and for your support to the Peterson family on this subject !

@ginasrsen 4 жыл бұрын

Such important information. Thank you for your work and professionalism. It is greatly appreciated.

@marcusking4365 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for explaining this so well. Though I never believed Dr. Peterson was a drug addict, I did not understand much about this med and its adverse effects of coming off of this med. This really explained things well and help me be more informed on the possible dangers of this med. Thank you for doing this video and doing it so well.

@KHart486 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so very much. I knew nothing about this topic before listening to your presentation. Keep up the great work!

@Bobedragon 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for making this video. It clears up a lot of confusion.

@maxaroney 4 жыл бұрын

An excellent concise review of the facts. Thank you.

@ann8735 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video Nicole. Good Job.

@petermanjapan2125 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Nicole what a brilliant piece of service to the public concern!

@jamesclements1947 4 жыл бұрын

thank you for caring. evidenced by you taking the time to so beautifully articulating a difficult subject

@joqiii3 4 жыл бұрын

This PA is EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE! Every doctor who prescribes this stuff should listen to this video. I am a benzo survivor and was on a very low dose-.25. As low as that is, it was still hell getting off Klonopin. Jordan went through much worse than most of us because of the paradoxical effect and the pneumonia. Sadly, my doctor had no clue how to help me taper- in fact, he did not think I could do it.

@THXx1138 4 жыл бұрын

Peterson went thru what we all do Mr. Q. It is unfathomable torture.

@joqiii3 4 жыл бұрын

THX 1138 Yes, it’s horrible!

@bigmonk802 Жыл бұрын

How long were you on klonopin?

@thomasgonzales2728 4 жыл бұрын

Why does it take someone like Jordan to get sick to get this knowledge out. There are so many people shunned away for when there symptoms are mistaken for anxiety. Its time for change

@351cleavland 4 жыл бұрын

Benzos are not a very common perscription these days compared to 40 years ago. The concerns about their medical use/side effects were out there 2 decades ago. Since many (but obviously not all) doctors don't prescribe them they have been less used recently so getting the word out doesn't make as much sense. HIghlight that against say, Meth addiction or oxycoton use and abuse, which is at a much greater prevalence. Getting the word out is happening for those substances.

@THXx1138 4 жыл бұрын

@Karen Brock It isn't drug addiction in his case or in the vast majority of those who are injured by these drugs. It is too important to understand the differences in the terms because addiction and physical dependency are vastly different as is drug dependency and abuse.

@ShouinGN 4 жыл бұрын

@Karen Brock What??!! Ridiculous!

@snowbird6855 4 жыл бұрын

@Karen Brock Jordan Peterson is brilliant. I'll bet you've never read one of his books or attended one of his lectures. He has a family history of major depression. Are you perfect? And no, I'm not on any drugs at all and I'm 63.

@snowbird6855 4 жыл бұрын

@Karen Brock And how do you know what "his cure rates" are?

@reecemchale 4 жыл бұрын

Well done and thank you for the information. You are a welcome example of recovery and I believe that Dr Peterson will also recover with the loving energy of his supporters and family.

@joanielivermore1895 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, Nicole. Your explanation is clear, calm and very informative.

@mikimiyazaki 4 жыл бұрын

The fact that shes been through it makes me respect her even more.

@Sarahschannel2 4 жыл бұрын

What will it take for the medical doctors/community to understand and not treat the patient like a dug addict?? I won't go into my personal story here...I am living it now, on my own with no help from medical providers. I tried that and will not trust them again to help me with this struggle. Thank you for making this video!

@natreeve1977 4 жыл бұрын

Really feel for you x

@traceyreed9167 4 жыл бұрын

It takes money. The more you have the better you will be treated. Unfortunately.

@chrishnah 4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Petersen couldn't do it even with access to the best care. But it can be done. Check out this Kelly Brogan interview with Joe Rogan. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mduehqVnns3FlZc.html She also has a book called "A Mind of Your Own" I hope you find it helpful

@e.mcm.9076 4 жыл бұрын

Karma Is Here please check PROTANDIM NRF2 it will HELP you and is natural, you might gind videoa on KZfaq related to addiction and here is the page where you can order it. eliamcmanus.lifevantage.com I wish you well, will pray for you and for every soul suffering these horrible symptoms.

@mr.b7004 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for explaining this kind of physical dependence. I wish all who are going through this are able to get help and recover.

@flormorena3778 4 жыл бұрын

Superb explanation. Thank you so much for sharing this.

@sandywhat2429 4 жыл бұрын

Your volume is cutting in and out- Perfectly accurate video. Ty.

@mikimiyazaki 4 жыл бұрын

This woman is super smart and explains everything with amazing precision.

@tracyann484 4 жыл бұрын

Wow. The best explanation I've ever heard including from my own physician. I've experienced 'discontinuation syndrome' personally and my own physican was 'shocked' by my experience. No one can understand unless they've experienced it. There is truly very little help and understanding about this terrible situation. Thank you for posting this.

@toddwilson4571 4 жыл бұрын

Incredible job explaining this issue: clear, calm, concise. THANK YOU!!!

@princessofthedawn4834 4 жыл бұрын

God bless you sweetheart! Currently, tapering via Ashton Method and it’s absolutely the most scariest part of my 50 years on this planet. I’m filled with hope and have donated to your cause. We are not addicts just ill-informed of the severity of risks. Medical doctors should not be able to prescribe these medications without special education. Prayers to all afflicted!

@THXx1138 4 жыл бұрын

Just want to inject this here - that even those addicted to benzos are at risk of this iatrogenic injury. Like you, I suffered injury from taking Ativan as prescribed. But all of this focus on arguing about the stigma of addiction vs. dependence is a distraction from the real threat which is this fucking poison pill itself!! They need to either be banned or used ONLY in hospital for pre-surgery sedation - NO MORE OUTPATIENT PRESCRIBING of this deadly poison!!!

@poupontoupee 4 жыл бұрын

Great and much needed commentary all round. Many thanks for walking us through the Peterson family video to explain the glaring issues around ' addiction' language, misconceptions about things as simple and startling as the myth of a low dose, and all other points raised. I doubt Jordan ever saw himself becoming the new benzo poster boy, but appreciate their transparency as they learn as they go. I think we' d all like to know what the Russian cure is, but not holding my breath.

@martaanna3698 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this extremely informative and empathetic video. This information should be widely spread out among patients and their families.

@artsandcraftsandallthethin2371 4 жыл бұрын

What an excellent commentary on such an important issue. Thank you. I hope that Dr. Peterson teams up with you in the future to educate the masses. X

@remnant.apothecary 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for bringing awareness. I can only imagine how many people are thinking they have no help, they feel they have lost their life and sanity. Maybe their friends and family will see this and can get involved to help and not write them off as a drug addict.

@deep6301 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like hell. Doctors should not prescribe these . Dr. Ashton recently passed away. Her manual is the best information available. This video is spot on.

@AmberDMcClure 4 жыл бұрын

Debra P it is hell

@victoriamorgan3776 4 жыл бұрын

Debra P Withdrawal is what hell must be like. Seizures. Psychosis. Inability to sleep. It’s absolute hell.

@Cali_Girl1 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for such a thoughtful, considerate and informative commentary. Dr. Peterson deserves it. 💛

@patricet5026 4 жыл бұрын

Terrific presentation. Thank you!

@taylormade1275 3 жыл бұрын

I've been on them for 37 years. I still take them as prescribed or don't take as much as prescribed. They've been a life saver for me.

@tambarker3862 Жыл бұрын

Exactly some of us need them and would never abuse them. A complete lifesaver for me as well!

@kathycrawford4652 8 ай бұрын

I, too, will stay on them as they keep me sane, and I take less than prescribed, so I'm not drug seeking but I am dependent on them.

@MeghenFarley 7 ай бұрын

@@tambarker3862u get dependent. That's why they up you. Some abuse them yes..but u get dependent and then you're in for a hell of a ride and I've been on them since 16 and I'm 38. I'll be on them for life after almost dying coming off few times. But yes..they can be great. Clonazapam is only one that helps me most. Dropping even a quarter of one of those pills..omg the horror

@BeauReviews 4 жыл бұрын

FASCINATING breakdown of benzo and the physical dependency it can cause. I never considered the difference between "physical dependency" and "addiction."

@callynt 4 жыл бұрын

This was very helpful. Thank you. So hard to imagine what this family has been going through in the past year.

@upnorth818 4 жыл бұрын

Happy that Dr. Peterson found the appropriate help for withdrawal from benzodiazepines. I suffered through this in 2012 and found the only help available was online. Glad to see there is now more effort to educate the public on the dangers of these medications.

@WatchfulWisdom 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic informative video.

@Drew_McTygue 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the detailed explanation. A friend of mine from college suffered for years trying to get off of Klonopin.

@kerryhamilton1968 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for providing this essential information.

@traceyp314 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Nicole! My daughter has been suffering Akathisia for months, induced initially by post operative antiemetics and then by SSRIs and antipsychotics prescribed to her by her doctors, who assumed her symptoms were those of anxiety. How wrong they were! She was also prescribed Benzodiazepines to treat the anxiety/Akathisia so is now having to face withdrawing from them. We need much more public awareness of the dangers of these drugs so you have done a great service with this video.

@sylvesterjonas9141 4 жыл бұрын

What you are saying sounds so true to me as I once was a victim of benzodiazepine, Clonazepam. I developed a physical dependency on it and when I tried to stop using them the entire hell broke loose.

@donnaschnare7029 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this and for stating the facts! I am sure Dr. Peterson would thank you if he could.

@shoopshoop2399 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent service you have provided here.

@sylpra09 4 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH for this video. Informative, knowledgeable and against preconceived ideas. Get well soon Dr. Peterson.

@yes55504 4 жыл бұрын

I've had paradoxical reactions. Tried to increase my dose 5 different times just by a little. Had severe agitation and full blown intense panic attacks.

@mathithomson3516 4 жыл бұрын

Well explained. As a physician, I have not presribed any of these drugs, (benzodiazepines), unless it is in a tapering process, for about a decade and it is precisely because of seeing the reaction Dr Peterson had had that I refuse to do so. Those patients still on it are tapered off in a controlled setting and it is incredibly difficult but it works best if the patient FULLY understands what had happened, what is happening and what is going to happen. I feel the same way about most sleeping tablets, even the non-benzos. It is toxic pharmacology.

@mcd5478 4 жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT VIDEO. This was very educational and a great public service. Thank you. As an RN, sadly, I never learned about any of the side effects or adverse reactions that can occur with this drug.

@ingeborgpostelnik4748 4 жыл бұрын

thank you so much for this brilliant clarification of benzodiazepine.

@SurvivingBenzos 4 жыл бұрын

Great job and SO true!!Just like with me,when i had cut my dose in half it threw me into a horrible withdrawal and after it happened nothing got me out of it,they turned paradoxical on me,Anytime i would try to updose them it only made me 100xs sicker and in turn made me stop cold turkey in detox thinking i could escape the symptoms but only made me A MILLION times worse!!.Alot of people don't realize how bad updosing or reinstating can be for the wrong people

@stevehannon9979 4 жыл бұрын

I am glad I listened to this Very smart person thank you I admit I was apprehensive at first I thought it was going to be a lot of Monday morning Quarterbacking but I was wrong I am sorry you went through this experience. You sound like you could talk circles around some of these doctors. Keep up the good work

@kennethlang7787 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Nicole. Wonderful job and I hope this helps many people.

@jonmason4791 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I really appreciate the 12 step remarks.....

@Glitchtonic 4 жыл бұрын

Madam, thank you for being so understanding and informative. I know you're here to be more helpful than hurtful, but you must understand that many people here have had their lives effected by Mr Peterson, often in a good way. So, if you catch any flak posting this video, don't feel bad about it. Thank you for informing us, and please try to reach out to the Peterson family, and try to help. Thank you for your time, and have a good one.

@rodrigoalmanza66 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for explained the difference between addiction and physical dependence. I'm a proud recovery alcoholic.

@danlance70 5 ай бұрын

I wanted to thank you I believe you’re the only one that has ever diagnosed my problems completely 100% I was on benzodiazepines 2 mg a day. The doctor dropped me immediately 2.5 my neck locked up my body could not move properly. Something was terribly wrong with me and I couldn’t figure it out and I went to every doctor in the world well in my area to try to figure out what was going on the doctor that dropped me and told me that that wasn’t the problem that I was complaining about my neck before they dropped me, I have now become knowledgeable of what my problem is through a rehab place that a doctor that explained things to me so I have been tapering myself down. I’ve got myself to a certain milligram monthly and I’m trying to break free of that and I’m finding it really difficult to do, but I wanted to thank you because you have enlightened me and I see that the only one that understands what I was going through the person on these videos

@debracalvin6737 Ай бұрын

The neck locking up is horrible. Stretching, yoga and light exercise like walking does help. Also just laying down and resting for 30 minutes improves it if even only for a couple hours. Mine locked up 2 months ago and I still have pain but it is not nearly as severe as it was.

@jim-tx6yi 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this important information. You are making a very positive difference in the world by sharing your knowledge. I truly appreciate your contribution. I am sure that there are many people who would agree.

@crawford323 4 жыл бұрын

I look at the body has little “factories” which produce the complex chemicals by which the body needs to regulate and supports what the body needs to do. Sometimes the factories are not providing enough so a drug is introduced to help. Sometimes because now that chemical is present, the factories get even more lazy and shuts down completely. Then when the drug is removed the factories must be rebuilt and that take time. We know so much but know so little. Dr Peterson is a world Treasure. I am so happy he is recovering. I hope he has not been changed too much by these challenges. Such a fine fine mind. I’m sure he will turn his thoughts inward but then outwardly share then teach us the way as he has always done.

@THXx1138 4 жыл бұрын

I like your analogy here. Thing with benzos is that they force unnatural alterations to important structure in the brain and CNS that create a sense of calm. When those structures are altered or damaged there is no surgery or medication to correct it. The person is rendered incapable of feeling any sense of calm due to the reconfiguration forced by these neurotoxins. Benzos were designed to be used only for the very short term - like a few doses maybe. Any longer than that triggers the body to begin making these unnatural alterations to the CNS and brain. You can not artificially tamper with GABAa receptors and expect the body not to respond. It is impossible.

@Meh-wd 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the "chemical imbalance" theory which has long since been debunked. Even psychiatry admits there's no evidence for it (nevermind that they are the ones responsible for spreading it to begin with). www.madinamerica.com/2012/01/psychiatrys-grand-confession/

@SteelSongbird 4 жыл бұрын

Beautifully addressed and articulated, Nicole. I recently watched a documentary covering Jordan Peterson’s rise to fame and picked up on Pharma induced behavior, personality expression. I’m very curious when his benzodiazepine exposure began as well as any serotonergic drug exposures. With his history of depression, it’s possible he is poly pharm injured.