Physics 16.3 The Pendulum (2 of 2) The Physical Pendulum (Non-Ideal)

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Michel van Biezen

Michel van Biezen

11 жыл бұрын

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In this video I will show you how to find the period of oscillation of a physical (non-ideal) pendulum.

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@Topsky007
@Topsky007 5 жыл бұрын
10 mins for very clear formula and method VS 2 hours for listening to my university prof. + self-reading, learn nothing. THANK YOU, RESPECT.
@MarlapoloMGTOW
@MarlapoloMGTOW 7 жыл бұрын
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@umerghani2481
@umerghani2481 8 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say im about to write my physics exam right now. And I learned everything from u Mr. Biezen. Thank you for everything and wish me luck, thanks!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 10 жыл бұрын
Anuj, A compound pendulum is a pendulum that is made out of multiple pieces where each piece can oscillate independently of the other pieces. The technique for solving that type of problem involves more advanced mathematics, such as the Lagrangian.
@swadeshranjandas8745
@swadeshranjandas8745 4 жыл бұрын
Great Question... THANKS SIR... IT JUST FIGURED OUT ONE OF MY DOUBTS... THANKS AGAIN. 🙏🙏🙏
@bennmurray25
@bennmurray25 10 жыл бұрын
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@muhammadmaulana7874
@muhammadmaulana7874 10 жыл бұрын
two pie over the omega LOL anyway this helps me alot. in fact i want you to become my teacher in my college, that would be fun :)
@rachelweber3174
@rachelweber3174 7 жыл бұрын
my teacher had me do a lab on solid pendulums without really teaching us anything and you just saved me hoooooooly shit thank you so much
@anujpahade3168
@anujpahade3168 10 жыл бұрын
What is a compound pendulum? Any diff. Formulae for it?
@duncanram
@duncanram 6 жыл бұрын
What if the pendulum was rotating in a circular motion? i.e in a situation of conical pendulum
@sbghadei
@sbghadei 2 жыл бұрын
Sir , I am here to thank you that the S.H.M. lectures by you really helped me to view the oscillation , equation of displacement and every other concept from multiple perceptions as a result I have developed better concept. Thank you (Remember me sir I am the one who wrote to you regarding the negative value of k yesterday and you did helped me to understand it, Thanks for it too)
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I remember. We are glad the videos are helping.
@sultnot2
@sultnot2 10 жыл бұрын
ty doctor, that is realy helped me
@haimingxu6922
@haimingxu6922 7 жыл бұрын
Hi! What would the moment of inirtia be if the axis was not on the edge but a little bit closer to the center of mass? Will we use parallel axis theorem in that case?
@mido9545
@mido9545 7 жыл бұрын
there is a coefficient of inertia momentum that you can look up on the website: hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/imgmec/mic.png If the rod about the center, I=1/12ML^2
@ActualDayZGod
@ActualDayZGod 7 жыл бұрын
For a different case, when I have a rigid rod with a pivot at the end and to find the angular speed, can you explain to me why the omega is different when i am calculating using conservation of energy? with conservation of energy, i get w=(3g/l)^2. while using the formula w=(mgd/I)^2 , i should get w=(3g/2l)^2 . so which one is correct?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 жыл бұрын
Both methods should work if done correctly.
@liamroberts7119
@liamroberts7119 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have one question though, should parallel axis theorem not be used to calculate the moment of inertia? I assumed since there was 2 different objects there would be 2 different axis of rotation? Thanks for your time.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 8 жыл бұрын
+Liam Roberts The parallel axis theorem is typically used if the point of rotation if not through the center of mass, and the shape of the objects is not one of the standard ones for which we know the standard equation of the moment of inertia. Here we simply have to add m1R^2 and (1/3) m2L^2 to find the total moment of inertia.
@liamroberts7119
@liamroberts7119 8 жыл бұрын
+Michel van Biezen thanks for the reply sir, I appreciate your work. You are helping millions worldwide, cost free, not many people can say they do that.
@jeelbambhroliya6287
@jeelbambhroliya6287 2 жыл бұрын
0:30 why are you saying omega ( angular velocity ) as oscillatory frequency ...... plz explain. In comment as early as possible.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 жыл бұрын
It is a mathematical equivalence. Both have units of radians/sec.
@ronnies.3440
@ronnies.3440 7 жыл бұрын
Why is the center of mass location for the hanging mass at the end of the rod just 0.8? I understand for the rod you'd take half of the rod's length, but don't understand why for the hanging mass, you would just use the length of the rod only.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 жыл бұрын
The mass is considered a "point" mass and therefore its dimensions are negligible compared to the length of the rod. If it wasn't you would have to add half the vertical dimension of the mass.
@ronnies.3440
@ronnies.3440 7 жыл бұрын
Gotcha. Thank you for the quick reply! Love your videos.
@nkunzemnyamamngomezulu.2481
@nkunzemnyamamngomezulu.2481 7 жыл бұрын
Michael, why is the moment of the Bar a third mL^2 and the mass is ML^2?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 жыл бұрын
For the bar, the mass is distributed along its length. For the mass you can consider that a "point mass" and all of the mass is located at the distance L from the point of rotation. I = mR^2 is the standard formula for moment of inertia of a point mass.
@PrithamDsouza94
@PrithamDsouza94 8 жыл бұрын
Hi. Just wondering why you wouldn't need to use the parallel axis theorem to calculate the total moment of inertia?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 8 жыл бұрын
+Pritham D'souza The total moment of inertia is the algebraic sum of the moment of inertia of each individual part.
@PrithamDsouza94
@PrithamDsouza94 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your prompt reply. So in a case like this there's no need to use the parallel axis theorem? I would've thought that it would be necessary as the rotation is happening through a pivot point at one end and not the Centre of gravity
@abhipatil1
@abhipatil1 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly explained
@ironuranium3927
@ironuranium3927 5 жыл бұрын
w= (mgd/I)^0.5 is applicable for spring which has self mass?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 жыл бұрын
This is actually a pendulum and the frequency is that of the swinging back and forth of the pendulum.
@meganyu9233
@meganyu9233 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Professor, I am a little bit confused when you write down the equation for I(bar), you used I=1/3 ml^2 instead of 1/12 ml^2, do you mind explain for thin rod what kind of situation we use I(center of the mass) =1/12ml^2? Thank you so much!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 жыл бұрын
Use 1/3 when the bar rotates about its end. Use 1/12 when the bar rotates about its middle (center of mass). See this playlist: PHYSICS 12 MOMENT OF INERTIA
@meganyu9233
@meganyu9233 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, professor. I understand this part, but in some cases, it is not rotated about its middle, nor the end, according to "the parallel axis theorem", the body's moment of inertia about a parallel axis through the object's center of gravity and the perpendicular distance between the axes. so we should use I=I(center of the mass)+md^2, it that correct? and if the bar rotates about its end and no mass connect to the end of thin rod, is the I = 1/3 ml^2 Thank you very much.
@qilinxue989
@qilinxue989 6 жыл бұрын
this might be a bit too late, but we're looking at the separate moment of inertia of the block and the rod. We're isolating both components in the system, and adding them back together
@CheeseTomatoe
@CheeseTomatoe 9 жыл бұрын
At 5:48 why is the distance of mass M taken to be 0.8m away from the center of mass? I get that the CoM of the bar would be halfway between it... but it seems like we are then defining the CoM of mass M to be the point that the system rotates about.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 9 жыл бұрын
CheeseTomatoe The mass at the end of the rod is considered to be a "point" mass, so it does not have significant dimensions.
@CheeseTomatoe
@CheeseTomatoe 9 жыл бұрын
Michel van Biezen Thank you for the quick reply!!
@67hoursAndCounting
@67hoursAndCounting 9 жыл бұрын
Michel van Biezen I still don't see why it would be 0.8m
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 9 жыл бұрын
67hoursAndCounting The definition of a point mass is that it has no volume dimensions. Therefore the center of mass of the object at the end of the rod is at 0.8 m from the point of rotation. That is how the problem was defined. We could create a different problem where the mass does have dimension, say a cube 10 cm on its side. Then the center of mass would be 0.8 ,m + 0.05 m from the point of rotation.
@67hoursAndCounting
@67hoursAndCounting 9 жыл бұрын
Michel van Biezen Ahhh thanks, I didn't realize there was a relationship between the center of mass and the point of rotation quite a speedy reply might I add, I appreciate it
@dimaabdelhay4564
@dimaabdelhay4564 8 жыл бұрын
Sir, I don't understand how we get the formula omega^2 = mgd/I like, is that something that i should know within or it applies only in this sort of situations?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 8 жыл бұрын
+Dima JA That equation can be derived with the use of differential equations or by using Lagrangian Mechanics (which will give you the differential equations). Once you have the formula, all you have to do is find the total moment of inertia of the pendulum.
@saqibhussain2000
@saqibhussain2000 8 жыл бұрын
uxbeuys
@DoesntReadReplies
@DoesntReadReplies 4 жыл бұрын
Where does he get the 1/3 from at 2:59? It's got me completely stumped...
@DoesntReadReplies
@DoesntReadReplies 4 жыл бұрын
Figured it out (it's not in the video): apparently its a formula that applies to the inertia of a rod, when the axis of rotation is at the end (I = 1/3 mL^2). Hope this helps someone else.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 жыл бұрын
This playlist can help. PHYSICS 12 MOMENT OF INERTIA
@magn8195
@magn8195 3 жыл бұрын
What would be the period of a physical pendulum if it undergoes under-damping?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 3 жыл бұрын
For that you need to solve the 2nd order differential equation. 0 = d^2(theta)/dt^2 + b d(theta)/dt + a (theta) and determine the constants a and b.
@magn8195
@magn8195 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichelvanBiezen Thank you!
@johntindell9591
@johntindell9591 6 жыл бұрын
thx
@liontaris7888
@liontaris7888 3 жыл бұрын
Great!
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