How many mm holes did you drill for the water?

I don't know how to install a mechanical pump on ac crankcase. Probably you have to drill a hole for the shaft of the pump. The water pump housing is ready to use with electric pump.

yes I will make a video as soon as possible !

specializedbabis better! I wanne do this to

I don't know if it's possible because it's not only the hole that have to be drilled. It's also the water pump bearing socket that have to be made.

@@binostuning Dont you think a professional cnc turner could make an exact replica of an LC case on a AC case? Or…. Impossible? Many thanks for your reply and advice

@@GaspersStuff yes with cnc you can probably make it fit

piaggio genuine store or maybe at maxiscoot.com

Thanks! No, I am living in Greece.

Thanks my friend. Probably the AC has less power at the top end, but not only from the fan. The LC is more 'stable' on tuning and you can tune it a little on the lean side, so the mixture burns better.

@@binostuning thanks for the info

@@binostuning i found that on my nrg power lc.. i set it a little bit on the lean side and it has a good power, perfect fuel consumption and a good workin... previous owner were set it up rich ... and the working was very bad and was burning alot ot fuel..

@@DiabloStuntTeam yes of course

@@DiabloStuntTeam I leaned out my Sr50 Minarelli l/C. It also got better.

Probably the same cylinder if it is 50cc buy the long crankcase to match the bigger wheel.

thank you very much 😅😋🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I didn't do anything. Just left the pulley for the oil pump.

I did this work because at a certain level of tuning, the air cooled is fine. But if you want to go full throttle for longer and your scooter have a more than a sport cylinder, you should go with liquid cooling. Also for every day use, my opinion is to stay with air cooling because it's less complex (especially for electric water pump setup). For my setup, if you go fast, the temperature is fine but it will raise if I get caught in traffic. Exactly the opposite was happening with the AC setup. Also the LC is easier to tune and in all circumstances is more reliable.

@@binostuning thanks for taking the time to reply. I’m going mallosi 172 etc. only kit available for me I think.

I used Motip gray heat resistant paint. To get a good result you have to clean the engine cases very well. Use fine sand paper to sand all the reachable places and then wash them properly. Paint the cases in closed area

Binos_Performance im really looking up to you im building myself a zip in the netherlands is there anyway i fan contact you?

@@amydeluxe4788 send me on instagram @binos_performance

Thanks for your great words! Firstly, the conversion is over a year that has been made, that's why i don't remember all that parts/steps. In the description are the most of the parts that you need to complete the conversion. I don't describe some parts like gasket maker (Permatex) or flanges etc. Yes the plastic pipe that you see at 5:38 is for the inlet of the water to the cases. The hole for the plastic pipe already exists but you have to grind it to fit the plastic pipe. I changed the front mask to SP to let the air enter, I bought it from eBay for ~90 euro. You can do this conversion with any LC cylinder you want. For special tools I used those you said except case extractor. Also it doesn't need to open your cases. I opened mine because I would change the crankshaft bearings. I can't tell you how man kms i did so far because my odo is stuck on 20000kms, but I think is around 5000km. I am running a hour meter, now it is on 230 hours. No problems at all. Streetrace kit is very reliable and powerfull for fun riding with wheelies. Be careful not to overthighen some screws on the cases, and keep the cylinder room very clean. Also use full synthetic oil. Good luck

87 jet size It's a stage6 streetrace 70 cc

it's not plug & play. you don't need to grind or change something major on the bike or its frame, but you will need to figure some parts or wiring for the pump.

@@binostuning oh thanks dude

It's not a zip sp. It's a 50cc AC zip which I converted to LC

Find me on instagram and ask me your questions. I'm happy to answer

I bought it from eBay Search for digital thermometer

specializedbabis thanks!!

Extract I think is better to split the engine cases in order to install some new gasket on the 2 halfs of the cases because is important to keep any water away from the crankshaft but you can do this without splitting the cases. If you do the conversion without splitting the cases be careful to clean very well the intake of the water pipe that needs to be grind. Sorry if my English are bad.

Oh okay thank you, if i get a friend to help me, who knows how to do all this do you think i should split the engine my self an if i leave my email address would you be able to tell me what tools and parts i will need please? thank you.

My opinion is that you shouldn't split the cases alone if you are not sure what are you doing, don't take any risks because you will damage your engine, get a person who knows how to do this. It's very easy to make a mistake. Of course I can help you with the tools and parts.

Thank you, speak over email? kyledavies16x@outlook.com

The water pipe fits on the crankcase, the water goes inside the pipe and then in the room that is the original (mechanical) water pump. If you have an electric water pump, the water just goes inside this room and then goes up to the cylinder.

specializedbabis Thanks!

If you want good power and reliability, then go liquid cooled. If you don't want much power and complexit, go air cooled.

Jon the lamb hahaha in case of scooters you have to do the opposite

@Frank Blackcrow look up hoonigan

King Jerry Coleman IV I can't tell you how much because I have not a shop but I estimate this job around 150£

150€ Your robbing yourself. Dunno in the states we charge 300usd for a carb clean and fuel lines.

Girraff squad: wait for me

It is a universal water pump from eBay. Search for electric water pump 12v.

Tq 👌

And i have a gilera ice and don´t want to have a cooler

What do you mean LC engine and AC cylinder ? I understand that you want to keep the engine cases with the rear disc brake and you want to do an LC to AC conversion, am I right?

Right now i have an air cooled hi-per 2 engine, but i want to buy a liquid cooled block for the disc brake, but keep all the components from the air cooled engine.

Yes you can do this. Also, you should pull the water pump out but i think is not necessary.

Yes i will only use the left side from a watercooled model and ill take the right side from my ac engine

For normal use the air-cooled is fine. If you are tuning a 2 stroke motorcycle you need the lowest temperature possible because you have more air getting through the engine. Also the LC keeps the temp more stable and is better for high speed use.

Binos_Tuning I see my 4 stroke 49cc is good than. I’ll hit you up in the future for questions

10-15ml

Yes the stage6 is a better cylinder kit.

The original air cooled block.

Maybe yes.

Because the aircooled crankcase has not a hole for the waterpump shaft

International Videos the crankcase is from piaggio ac engine and the cylinder is stage6 Streetrace

so on every 2 stroke ac engine is an crankcase

i mean every 2 stroike ac engine has an crankcase

International Videos every engine has a crankcase. This is the place that fits the crankshaft.

Okay

Zip 2000 with sp plastics

@@radio-180cc ok

Knockoff panels

International Videos I bought the water pump from eBay. It is just an electric 12v water pump. Type this and you should find one.

No its a cylinder for piaggio LC

Binos_Tuning Oh alright. It does look a lot like a mina hor cylinder

Yes. It's better when you go full throttle for long time. Also the temperature is more consistent so you can tune the motor easier.

@@binostuning thanks!!! How is the fitting of the water pipe? Is it tight enough so it doesn’t leak?

@@samstruwer9909 yes of course. Check my latest video to see the cooling system.

You are correct. I did like this because I didn't test fit when it was split.

yes

At this time I was using a cheap 12V electric water pump from ebay. Now i'm using a BOSCH 12V electric pump.

@@binostuning Why did you put the water inlet near the stator? Can i do directly from the radiator, pump and to the cylinder without go in the block?

@@davidegigante you have to do this way because the liquid enters the cylinder from the bottom of the case.

@@binostuning Thanks

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International Videos Yes the water is coming through that pipe from the water pump and goes in the crankcase and then in the cylinder.

but isn't the water coming at the crankshaft

International Videos no it doesn't go in the crankshaft. Check some photos please

Can you send me some ?

Where did you place the water pump ?

JACK COLEMAN English please!

That's right but this is the reason they last so long. Also the stage 6 Streetrace makes nice power.

Bitch ,water pump is inside the carter motor left at ignition, when you don't know any yhings don't open your fucking ass 😉😂😂

Lol noob he didnt show in the vid

don't answer when you are wrong self

he is using an electric pump

it's under the footrest

Me 2

English pls