thanks:)

I use pianoteq all a timre, but i start to be bored. I can't here bass well, and i fell a lack off power..

thank you! :) yes i thought this was a reasonable thing to do.

great thanks!

thanks a lot!

absolut!

Good morning - happy listening to these videos :)

thanks man!

wow that's great to hear i could help!

Tawny, never heard that word before :) Good description.... one can also say it has "character".

EQ can help but it should sound brighter out of the box I agree

Oooh 🙈 The editing was a nightmare, I am so bad at this... Thanks a lot for your feedback, it is very interesting to me.

Unfortunately I don't like the Pianoteq grand sound. I don't know why I didn't mention it at all, but I wouldn't have been to positive about it. Also I only have version 6 and not the new 7. But I really love their historic instruments, which are the best in the market in my opinion.

@@PianoScoreVids Understood. Thanks friend.

The Ravenscroft is in this video, he already has it! :) @ 1:20:39

good info thanks

@@PianoScoreVids That is from Jeff Hurchalla in the Piano World forums. I might have spelled his name wrong. But that is a credible source.

Can you please explain the use of audio interface, I'm new to this stuff, i just connect my digital piano to a daw with vst and record it with no audio interface.

Thanks for your comment and listening - that piece is in a set from Samuel Maykapar, 12 Album leaves for the youth, it is a valse melancolique.

I use Garritan most of the time.

I basically forgot it

It would be great to hear about Pianoteq and Acousticsamples’ pianos.

You can just record into a good digital audio workstation like fl studio or logic. They have internal asio drivers which are able to do that recording business with comparatively low latency

Thanks for those further points. I had a couple of midi controllers in my life so far, and the way the reacted was rather similar. The only difference is the built in action. The sensors themselves are pretty good always. I used Kawais. One can always dial some knobs to reduce abrupt tonal changes, but everybody is different. I don't play extreme music anymore because most people like waltzes and romantic music. Thus for me it is important to get a good and smooth sound out of the instruments.

i have tried all of the pianos except for the VSL xd. i can say that i cant even imagine or dare to believe any VST will soon or ever beat Gerritan. I do wish that fazioli and steinway were included in the gerritan software, as yamaha does often sound too tense to me. Thats all i can say.

my newest video is the newest vsl. check it out for a sound demo ..

Thanks for your comment! :) I use FL Studio. In FL Studio you have an editor window where you can adjust the velocity curve *globally* . Thus it can't be seen in the video. My only choices (since 1 or 2 years now) for curves are ONLY linear functions. Any non-linearity produces very bad effects in my trill playing or repeated note playing. The curve is like the identity function, but just I take the point at (1,1) and drag it to the left, about to (0.9,1) or so. This means that velocities of 110 or so already get mapped to the maximum. This is because my controller limits *internally* already at 110 or so, no matter how hard I play.

For the B. Upright in particular I would use a very steep curve because the loud samples live in a very high region for that one. I would place the point therefore at (0.8,1) or even (0.7,1) and see what happens..

@@PianoScoreVids Awesome, thanks for the quick response! I'll try that.

take the Steinway and bi, play them for a week and return one with their return policy

i don't really like them.. but the harpsichord and fortepianos are amazing

possible, but it's not wrong: you can stand on either side relative to the grand.

it has no continuous sustain for the pedal which already makes it unusable for me.

@@PianoScoreVids You want to destroy it definitely and don’t accept dissuasive arguments, it’s ok. You are very skilled like pianist by the way, congrats!.

What do I have to do to fix this problem.

@@PianoScoreVids It’s a severe problem for you, and I’m a pro pianist too, but the lack of the half pedal is not a reason enough to dismiss it for me, is very unfair taking into account its advantages, but, at the end, we are free to choose our favorite resources to work. The important thing is to have the money to buy whatever vst piano we want, and fortunately, they are much cheaper than a real acoustic.

@@PianoScoreVids I forgot to write that a solution I use for half pedal is volume automation, to control the decreasing speed of long chords.

thanks for listening! You already guessed it: I would primarily choose the Noire and Garritan, but maybe the light is even enough. for pop maybe the "TVBO" from sampletekk is an idea,it's only 50 dollars, but I think only today and tomorrow or so. The noire has nice options for film scores with the algorithmic section I didnt even talk about (check other nice youtube videos), and the garritan is just overall a great feel while playing and very versatile, so suitable for classical music. The ca 78 is good, I owned the 98 and 48 at some time in my life. You can definitely do a lot with it. 37:25 is an excerpt from the third piano sonata from chopin, first movement 39:25 was just me fooling around 50:55 was the wonderful elegy from vasily kalinnikov

@@PianoScoreVids what a Great detail reply of my all question.. Thank you so much for taking out time to explain me from your busy schedule❤️.. I have aready short listed But Confuse between Garritan Lite or full/Noire/Vsl Cfx & Bosendorfer 280VC( Both Expensive) ? If I have to choose only 1 from above to start with.. Which is BETTER Choice? Thank you👍 & Yes STAY SAFE🙏

the playability of all of them is great. If I were you I would listen to as many demos as possible and then decide according to which sound is the best to you. Basically at this point you will not do anything wrong with any of them

@@rrjjgg101 I hope to add some useful things into the conversation. Don't go for the Garritan CFX light, as it only has one part of the Classic perspective and the sound is hollow. If you are going for the Garritan CFX, go for the full version. With some mixing possibilities, you'll be able to reduce the lower velocity sample hiss IMO. But you need the ambient mics in the room with you!

@@PianoScoreVids Hi Dear..Thank you again..Already watching All available Videos Comparission of Vst ...👍STAY SAFE🙏

good idea for trying again but no half pedaling is almost a deal breaker anyway. my pedal poositíon average is pretty much in the middle very often

sorry, i don't know the production voices one.

@@PianoScoreVids Ah, ok. The VSL CFX and Fazioli would be my first choice. The Fazioli sounds slightly dull in the highs from the demos I’ve heard? What are your thoughts on the VSL CFX vs Fazioli?

The sound and recording quality on the fazioli is really good, but I remember really liking the tone and message of the CFX. I think I would prefer it.

sorry i don't have it. i would assume it's very good. if i had more money i would probably buy it

no not really

@@PianoScoreVids Bummer! I was hoping they would have those specially recorded as they do with pedal noises and dampers with multiple Binaural mic positions.

Synthogy's Ivory Pianos, all of them, have nice pedal noises, I think. Garritan and VSL has less stellar ones, IMO. :)

no i always use silent mode with a vst

I'm afraid i don't have that one!

​@@PianoScoreVids Wait till it's on sale for like $30 or so. I've been using The White Grand for over 15 years. It's great for cutting through the mix and it has a sound and character that I haven't found in other pianos.

sorry, i don't have the ivory.

The VSL stuff seems to be the highest end from many recommending it, and it's used for classical.

don't forget all those huge SSD's i also had to buy

Fl Studio is my digital Audio Workstation. It is not only to record, but to cut, edit, mix, create music in general. Kontakt ist a program which hosts vst plugins. You can't just open a vst on windows, you need a daw like Fl studio to be able to open Kontakt (but maybe there is a standalone version too), and inside kontakt you can then open a vst. If a vst is a so called 'kontakt instrument' you can ONLY open it in kontakt - some plugins require the full version of Kontakt, which you first have to buy, so care is needed there. Many plugins work in the free version though, the so called Kontakt Player.

@@PianoScoreVids Thank you so much.😊

Not silly at all. It's hybrid. So it is really totally upright but it also has sensors and electronics. But my piano is badly regulated. Thing is, if you play 'silently' , with no acoustic sound, the hammers move a bit and dont actually hit the strings. I feel like it decreases the playability ..

@@PianoScoreVids Thank you for answering. I see, I see. Is that why the piano is spinet size, reduced size because of it being a hybrid? In my opinion you are certainly correct about "decresed playability", an upright's hammers are much slower to go back into place than a grand's since gravity helps much less. That effect has to be even worse if the hammers aren't "ricocheting" off of the strings. PS: You are doing a fantastic job on this channel!

Thanks! It's really bad recently unfortunately. Doesnt make me want to play the piano ... i need a concert upright or at least a baby grand at some point... but i 'm a student so i cant afford it.

I would play much more virtuosic pieces if the mechanic was just more reliable

@@PianoScoreVids I use a "concert" upright that my grandparents bought years and years ago. It sounds good and full, but that's the only thing it has of concert. You still have the major mechanical problem of the hammers not coming back fast enough. Since the hammers are still perpendicular to the ground, instead of parallel. My level of playing doesn't justify more than an upright, and I like having the damper pedal, so I can play at 11PM if I want to. For your level of playing however... you need a faster keyboard, so a baby grand would be the only option... a concert upright for you would not solve this problem. Also a grand would give you a sostenuto pedal and an una corda pedal, in addition to the sustain, making your expressive potential much higher. But yeah, I know the price tags... Trust me I know... Whenever I see a used baby grand at a good price, it's already sold by the time I call...

the absolute cheapest kawai

@@PianoScoreVids Is it a hybrid piano? Or digital ones? .... BTW, I found your channel very inspiring! You have put a lot of energy and effort in your passion. You also help to us to introduce unknown music to the world... Thanks for that! Are you german or swiss, by any chance?

I'm German, it's the hybrid version, yes

unfortunately never

almost 8dio pianos are SO BAD

@@MrMusicopath I've tested a fuckton (pardon my french) of piano VST over the years as whenever I can do it, I download them illegally - cough - to test what I consider the core of them that's rarely really properly reviewed, that is the playability. Playability is of the essence for a VST. Most reviews focuses on sounds alone or almost. Then if I'm happy with it, I buy the product. So many times (we're talking 90% of the time, really) a vst would sound good/great but playability was bad or simply not good enough. I can't fathom how much money I've saved doing this. Playability should be the core of a review. So many piano VSTs are just "a type of piano sounds for your recordings/musical projects/mixes" and not thought out as a good instrument for a piano player to begin with, if you get my drift... I play on a Kawai MP9500 of which the action is still top of the line as of today (if maintained well, that is). The VPC1 is built on that foundation and the action has barely been upgraded. It was that good at the time to begin with. Only the hybrids really goes further than this. Suffice to say, with all the nuances it permits, all VSTs can unveil their fullest potential with it, or much quickly falls short. And boy do soooo many VSTs falls short lol Also, for me, classical music, especially from the romantic period, is an absolute must for reviewing a piano VST. If it can pull off convincingly a Chopin or Rachmaninov piece with all the rubatos, pianissimos and all the nuances required like a real piano let me do it, then it's a good instrument that will be able to pull off just about any kind of music convincingly, be it pop, jazz or otherwise. Because it will act like a real piano, not like a sound library if you know what I mean. AND ONLY THEN should the vst brings its own sound identity in the equation. I think this way I thoroughly tested probably around 20 piano VSTs if not more, the vast majority of them were deceiving in terms of playability or just couldn't adapt to any type of music like a real piano would. 8Dio, of all the one I tested, was some of the worst, if not the worst of them all. Laughable. Completely unplayable on my Kawai. I think it was the 1928 Steinway I tested the most, it was a complete joke, a disaster... it crapped itself so bad on classical it was embarrassing, bit of a shame for a Steinway of all pianos! I see they've supposedly overhauled their products (that pesky 1928 has a brand new interface for example), so maybe they upped their game since then... but I wouldn't trust them one bit. Whoever was in charge of that vst back then is no piano player to begin with, no way. And it was probably design with cheap (in terms of action at least) master keyboards in mind, just to bang some chords with a steinway sound and throw them into a pop-like mix.

It's a hybrid upright

@@PianoScoreVids Which hybrid upright do you have? I have been considering getting one. Thank you for the excellent video and I really enjoyed listening to you play!

@@PianoScoreVids Please tell us the make and model of the hybrid in the video :-)

Sorry, I really don't like the pianoteq sound for grands

@@PianoScoreVids then you need to explore the settings and understand them...its a lot more functional and sounds just as good or even better than even a real grand piano.

@@zumadale it's subjective

@@PianoScoreVids I guess but 127 velocity levels ...my lord...lol

@@zumadale I use pianoteq for my pianoforte and harpsichord recordings. For that it is the best plugin I have. it sounds very great.

sorry, i don't have that. always thought about buying it and maybe i will. problem is , it doesn't have very many grand pianos for that rather high price to offer.

@@PianoScoreVids aaah, i can understand that, but i think they can compete really well with all your vst, anyway, thank you for your review, that is very helpful

Pls check the comments where someone asked that

@@PianoScoreVids thank you