Nobody: Absolutely Nobody: Purplecliffe: *SUNKERN*

Mikey: *explaining how Staravia is a good choice 2 seconds later Papasea: I'm not taking Staravias that's just stupid

I’ve been thinking about this problem for a full 14 minutes and 18 seconds, and I think the best answer I have is Snorlaxs and Sunkern. You have the Snorlax defend you while the Sunkern absolutely destroy everything else with solar beam. Jack is right, 10,000 of any Pokémon (that can do some form of damage) would be better than any of the other options.

Option 1: You find the mythical reverse Slaking that loafs around on Turn 1 and add a regular Slaking. You now have two Slakings loafing on alternating turns. Then you take the 10,000 Sunkerns, which are your death fodder. On the turns Slaking 1 is loafing, you send in the hoard as a meat shield for Slaking 2. This Sunkern shield alternates along with the Slaking. Option 2: You choose Ash and his plot armor protects you. You also take the Staravias because 50 Staravias using teamwork to beat back all these other Pokemon is absolutely something that would happen in an episode. My castle defense is perfect.

I love how John was supporting Super Blah’s choice by saying that the Seviper can’t stab you in the sky, when that was his plan to take care of Staravia

You know what? I'm actually agreeing with Jack on this one. 20,000 Sunkern

Jack sold me tbh. Though I will say, given the stat total, 20k isn't much more than 10k. So I'd probably go Sunkern alongside Arcanine. Arcanine being generally agreed as the biggest Sunkern counter, as well as giving you, as the trainer, an option to maneuver about the battlefield, as I THINK it's the fastest among the choices. Except Ash. Ash is pretty fast.

I caught a Sunkern just as Jack started talking about his 20,000 Sunkern lmfao. Gotta love how polar opposite his and Mikey's responses were.

I love seeing all the different approaches to the question in this video. Like mikey took a very analytical approach and Jack just went all In without thinking twice

Everyone else: comes up with good, thoughtful plans Jack: S U N K E R N

The sunkerns are far and away the best choice. Even if you got none of the other Pokémon you would have more than 100 to 1 for each opposing Pokémon. Lets they are all hypothetically level 50. Even if you had max health IV and EV blissey and each sunkern was only doing one damage per hit the blissey wouldn’t even survive four turns. In reality tho you aren’t going to have the same health as blissey and the sunkerns are not only going to be doing 1 damage to everything. Also, with each Pokémon that the sunkerns kill the remaining Pokémon have even more sunkerns to face, resulting in a snowball effect that would easily win you the battle.

I love how John enthusiastically agrees with every answer

Sunkern, absolutely. 10000 will beat everything else on the field by themselves. Just like the one with rats, people really don't understand how much 10000 is in this situation.

John: "makes a fictional picture of a seviper on tauros army without carijg about stats" Mikey comes in: STATISTICS! BASE STAT TOTALS!

When seeing this at first, I had the same idea as Mikey. Now that I think about it, I think I would go Sunkern/Arcanine. Arcanine can use Sunny Day, and Sunkern has Chlorophyl. Assuming speed works comparable to Mystery Dungeon in this example, your small army of seeds is moving at Mach speeds, while you ride off on an Arcanine into the sunset

Mikey was definitely the best interpretation of this. Best odds of staying alive and escaping. Nothing was said of WINNING the battle to the last 'Mon.

I'm with Mikey. Arcanine has never once let me down and Staravia is excellent aerial support (although Jack's answer is my next favourite)

Bro Ash got hands. Remember when he held a 2000 lbs Pokémon in like it was a gem?

10000 sunkern as a wall and 50 staravia to pick off the enemy, pretty much you are completly protected by your sunkern hoard while the staravia do the hard work (of course the staravia would also use double team spam so they don't get killed)

Just stumbled across this video. Sunkern and Arcanine go hard. Taking Arcanine removes Sunkerns biggest weakness. Pop a Sunny Day and spam Growth, Solar Beam, Leech Seed, Synthesis, and Seed Bomb. It also had Ingrain and Grassy Terrain for insane healing. The Arcanine also has Sunny Day and Solar Beam. A bunch of STAB fire moves, some coverage with the elemenal fang moves, double kick and close combat, and extreme speed.

Jack definitely knows about power in number. "Apes together stronger".

here's what I had in mind about John giving us the choice of two slakings. Even with truant if we time it correctly so that each slaking cover each other when truant happened, we can make slaking attack every single time

I like the idea of getting other Pokémon gurus on hypothetical’s…I would love to see/hear if you could only make a team of 6 types (max) what would you pick?

Same as Purplecliffe, 20k Sunkern. Sunkern 1: Uses Sunny Day Sunkerns 2-20k, spam solar beam because there is no charging period.

All of the staravias can use whirlwind and just throw all the competition away

Suncurn can act as a meat shield and slacking can wait behind to wake up after truant

So here is what you should do. First you get the Sunkern, tell them to make a tower around you, and give them each a focus sash. That way they can all yank a hit for you. Then you get the Staravia and after every other Pokémon uses a move you tell them to fly and they carry you into the sunset.

Using non-Pokémon terminology: Action Economy is important (only 2 or 3 in battle at a time, only mostly 1 per turn, and so on) so for the first one, 10,000 sunkern and the 50 staravia.

Imagine 50 staravias high above the ground spamming double team while nobody can touch them. Meanwhile 10000 sunkern distract and chip everything with leech seed and solar beam

I’m definitely with purple’s logic on sunkern, however, I would go 10k sunkern and the staravias. Reasoning: even if we’re assuming that this all out battle won’t apply normal turn based pokemon battling or even worst case, all the sunkern and staravia are level 1 and the rest are 100, I would still say we can probably apply some general turn rule that for every attack the attackers use, the defenders also get an attack (roughly). With that in mind, I look at 2 moves for the sunkern: endeavor and grass whistle. Endeavor would do big damage early (though even 1 damage at a time, 10000 sunkern is up to 10000 damage and going 1 at a time, not 1 damage would be wasted on an already fainted pokemon) and grass whistle gives me some extra time to whittle away at their hp. Now the staravia choice is for 2 reasons. 1. The keep me up and away from the fight. 2. That takes gust (and other similar flying moves) out of the opposition that would be a problem for my sunkern. The main problem besides them is the arcanine group. But there’s only 4 and they will quickly fall to the sunkern army before they can do any significant damage to my 10k strong army. tl;dr 10k sunkern = unbeatable action economy and staravia keep me at safe distance.

Another reason to pick sunkern is because so that you DONT NEED TO fight 10000 sunkern, even if you pick arcanine and staravia those pokemon need to make it trough all the other pokemon until they reach sunkern WHICH may or may not already charging their solar beam at you

Snorlax - earthquake, rock slide, rest, sleep talk Sunkern - attract, grass whistle, solar-beam, growth, with 1 sunkern knowing grassy terrain instead Use master ball on arcanine - ability patch to justified (raise attack when hit by dark type) Roar, Sunny Day, Retaliate, Heat Wave

My strategy - Arcanine and Staraptor can use Intimidate because everything but Sunkern are physicla attackers. So I take them and send the Staravias to grind and evolve off Sunkerns while Arcanines use roar to get rid of the Snorlaxs and 1 Slaking. Now I have 1 Arcanine take Ash's Masterball and catch a Slaking. I then have the Slaking use yawn and make everything sleep. They are defenseless and I would win

Assuming Sunny Day, Grassy Terrain (which Sunkern gains by breeding), +6 SpAtk from Growth and the Solar Power ability activated - a max SpAtk +6 Sunkern using Solar Beam does about 70% of a max SpDef max HP Snorlax. Even without the +6 SpAtk, but still having those EV spreads, Sunny Day and Grassy Terrain, Sunkern will do 25% damage. 10k of those takes down roughly 2500 max bulk Snorlax

Here’s my idea. I choose arcanines and staravias. The arcanines run in, and go for the suncurns. Not because I’m scared of them, it’s because they’re pop into pop corn, now with the snorlaxes distracted, we lunge our atack, and when the snorlaxes are spiting out the popcorn because it was on the ground and had not salt or butter, we take only 5 of them out. On staravia snatches and gives me ashes master ball, and I use it on the alpha mityana, now the rest of the pack will obey me. And with a pack of mityanas, lead by 4 arcanines, we get food and give it to the snorlaxes, now they defend me. And now look! It’s an army of Pokémon, now it’s a garenteed win for me!

20000 sunkern is a really good strategy... Sunkern learns sunny day at lvl 40. All you need is the fastest one to use sunny day and the rest to solar beam immediately. It can also learn double team. It can learn sludge bomb to deal with arcanine and staravia if somehow 19999 solar beams isn't enough. Jack's a genius.

Nobody : Literally Nobody : in the thumbnail john replaced ash with grunty boi

Guys, remember Staravia can learn double team naturally, so within seconds, you got hundreds of fake Staravia, making the real ones unhitable, while they use air slash to basically be out of range all of the time. And that, together with the Arcanines, who only need to use one fire move to end all Sunkerns, you are unbeatable.

I took one look at all of them and went with the Sunkern and the Staravia. With 10,000 Sunkern surrounding me, nothing can get to me, and can swarm everything else, no matter how powerful they are. I’d also like to have the only ones that are capable of flying over the Sunkern and attacking me (the Staravia) to be on my side, thank you very much. No, wait. Ash has plot armour. If you stay with him, the writers will never allow you to die. Final decision: Ash Ketchum and the Staravia. Nothing can get you if you fly high enough.

I'm picking the Staravia and the Arcanine, those are 54 intimidates against only physical attackers which renders them pretty useless. Also the Arcanines can deal with the hoard of Sunkern by using heat wave

see in my eyes, I always go with the 10k rats, 50 eagles kind of option, because if they're actively defending, their sheer numbers would be enough to deal with whatever might come my way. After all, how is the man with a gun going to deal with 10k rats eating them alive? Kinda dark, but that's my logic. Plus the birds swooping in would be a massive pain to deal with, so why not have them helping? I keep forgetting Staravia gets Intimidate, so I'm taking 5 Snorlax and all those Staravia. GUARANTEED Intimidate and immunity to Earthquake.

Well if we go by pokemon rules and say every pokemon has X PP for its moves and max 3vs3 pokemon, the right choice would be the sunkerns and staraptor the other pokemon would be out of PP and the Staravia could sand attack all so they miss meaning loosing more PP

10000 is such a big number, I think only Jack appreciated how that is orders of magnitude more quantity than the others. You have more than 100 sunkerns attacking each of the opponents. "Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I am willing to make."

I was thinking about having 5 snorlax’s bodyblock me from everything and have the 4 Arcanine on the hunt but like 20,000 Solar beams might be a bit much for just 5 Snorlax

Loved how diverse the answers were. Really see how everyone comes in with different opinions of how to handle the situation. Personally, Sunkern and Arcanine. One Sunkern keeps up sunny day. Arcanine uses Flame Thrower. The rest of the Sunkern will divide into groups bouncing between Solar Beam and Growth until Growth doesn't do anything. Grass Knot for Snorlax and Slaking. They also have attract to slow the others down. Arcanine will have Double Kick, Thunder Fang, and Psychic Fangs to clean up. If there is a need to.

It's hilarious how wildly different the approaches and reasonings to this have been omfg Also I'd totally pick Tauros and Arcanine

I have to choose Arcanine and Sunkern, not only is there so much sunkern to fill a big stadium which can follow Jack's method of solar beam or use leach seed but I also get rid of the Sunkern removal problem and get a lot of enemies taken out quickly by choosing Arcanine, along with lots of range and a quick way to escape if need be

Might be a left field shout but I'm going with staravia and seviper. I'm assuming everything's the same level, maybe pre-E4/champion so in the 50s or early 60s. So have some staravias act as decoys with dummy (realistically 5-10 dummies) versions of me hugging tight and one that actually has me on it, all the staravias having spammed double team to make targeting us even harder. Leaving aside a handful of staravias to distract/stop ash from getting involved and stealing his master ball to catch a Snorlax to wall for us on the ground and be yet another distraction. 10 of the other staravias (without me or the dummies) will still do double team but double as supporters, carrying the sevipers that will spam sludge bomb and other ranged poison attacks from the sky, focusing on the main threats Tauros and Arcanine first, Snorlax and slaking next and then mightyena last. This leaves aside about 20ish staravias to be attackers and a nuisance to arcanines/snorlaxes/slakings trying to hit me with ranged moves and to slowly whittle down the sunkern tsunami (one staravia could easily clear 5, maybe 10 sunkerns with one aerial ace) or once the main threats are dealt with Snorlax could smash 500 into pancakes in one crash landing.

I have two strategies. In the first one, my Sunkern army uses grass whistle, and then the Snorelaxes just start sweeping with Sleep Talk. In the other scenario, the Snorelaxes form a rest wall while the staravias eat all of the Sunkerns and evolve. while

My choice is basically Mikey’s. Also in the most leveled way without making him overpowered as a choice: let’s say Ash has the option to use the master ball on one of the other Pokémon (instead of saying he has an OP Pokémon he has or never had caught), he’s at least given the option to teach a caught Pokémon TMs and have a coverage. This way his choice can make him any bit on par with other options but not be OP.

Everyone missed how good staravia and arcanine actually are here. Arguably two of the fastest choices, and nobody said you had to defeat. you ride an arcanine off into the sunset, with the speed of 50 tailwinds behind you. See the sunkern, slaking, and snorlax in 20 years, whoever is left would be a clean sweep for my team.

Staravias and the Sunkerns. If selecting movesets is also a thing: Sunkerns? Helping Hand, Ingrain, Leech Seed, Endure. Staravias? Mirror Move, Rest, Double Team, Arial Ace. Can you imagine what a 200:1 ratio of Helping Hands would do? Even do a 100:1 so the other 100 can be the defensive front wall, that's still a huge increase in damage.

Surprised no one chose Snorlax. Just imagine 5 of them body blocking for you and firing off Hyper Beams while your other more offensives based pick takes the front lines, probably Arcanine or Staravia

"So its the alpha snorlax" that line had me dying laughing

Not to mention one sunkurn using sunny day so the others dont have to charge solar beam and are free to just spam growth, I feel like the start here is Sunny day with 1 sunkrun, and then have 9999 sunkurn spam growth while the other 10001 are spamming solar beam and then have the 9999 who spammed growth start spamming Solar beam while the other 10001 sunkurn start spamming growth and then all 20k use solar beam at the same time. We could also leech seed the pokemon using about 5k sunkurn while the other 15k are point blanking the target with 6x growth, sunny day solar beams, assuming the battle even takes that long.

In the same way of that song "3 bears and ten thousand rats", two slaking and 10,000 sunkern. They got stun powders and slaking can just tear ass

Purplecliffe might be one of the funniest people i have ever seen 😂😂😂

Those who know anything about dnd would choose a thing action economy, and pick the sunkern since you’d be able to get 10000 fairly weakly attacks to their what like 36ish attacks at most if you choose the staravia. Even against the strongest pokemon, a ten thousand one damage attacks are gonna be able to more than knock it out.

A strategy i didnt see anyone talkin about is simple: 10k sunkern and the arcanine because: 1:10000 sunkern means 10000 sunny days 2: Flamethrower boosted by 10k sunny days while the sunkern charge solar beam. That's it.

You send in a Slaking and another mon, then on the next turn, switch out the other mon for another slaking. Perfect counter for each other, then the sunkern armada can cover slaking’s back. Another option could be getting ash and the slaking. Using the slaking strat i mentioned, ash could bring every mon that he’s ever caught over the entirety of the anime, plus his master ball to get one of the other mons, probably a staravia. You could also take the staravias for intimidate, so almost everything is at -6 (only the phys attackers). The staravia grabs Ash’s master ball and you catch an arcanine. So now arcanine is flamethrowering the sunkern, so no threat there, and then you use snorlax and gigantimax three of them. The other two will run around slamming into everything until the gigantimax runs out and the three others will join them. You flee the scene and call everyone back into their pokeballs, saving yourself and the pokemon that haven’t sacrificed themselves.

I just want to take a second to appreciate the visual in my head that John gave me of seviper riding their mighty steeds; the Tauros. I almost choked on my drink when he said it 😂

I would go with the staravia and the sunkern to overwhelm them with the amount of sunkern while I escape on some staravia as well as staravias intimidate and they can use whirlwind

Staravia and arcanine staravias picking up arcanines, you ride one, now you have flying arcanines shooting flamethrowers from the sky. OP

SB - “checkmate other people” *cut* Jack - “20,000 sunkern.”

So assuming that all moves work like how they do in the games, I would go with the mightyenas and the staravias, mightyena learns roar at a decent level and assuming all these pokemon are wild, the fight is pretty much over if they spam roar. Also the staravias are there using double team, distracting all the other pokemon, ash misses his master ball throw and then I take it to catch an arcanine to burn the Kerns and also use roar

If the 6 stage limit was ignored, the intimidates of 50 Staravia would reduce your attack down to 4%, reducing every physical attack down to under 10 base power -- including *EXPLOSION.*

Under the assumption that I can keep some of the pokemon I choose in pokeballs, I pick the 50 staravia, and use 10 of them to fly me high I to the air, drop the snorlax from ridiculously high up, creating what is basically a bomb rush, I have the snorlax use protect to prevent them from taking damage, return them to the pokeball and reset for another bomb rush.

50 Staravia and 10 Seviper. The Staravia have intimidate to lower attack and spam Sand Attack and Double Team, in that order, followed by Wind Cutter to get rid of all those Sunkerns and Close Combat for Super Effective Damage on everything except Arcanine. Sevipers use Toxic on Slaking and Snorlax, Mud Bomb the Arcanines, Poison Fang and Venoshock everything else, using Poison Fang until they're poisoned then using venoshock for the double damage.

My choice would be the 5 Snorlax and 4 Arcanine:) Snorlaxes can just crush everything with Body Slams and the Arcanines just Flamethrower or Earthquake everything. I do agree Purplecliffe's idea is brilliant.

Yo purplecliffe just broke the algorithm give this man a damn trophy he killed that lol.

For the first one I would pick arcanine and snorlax because arcanine is pretty obvious can destroy all the sunkerns ash and staravia maybe a couple sevipers as well and the snorlax is an odd choice you might think but it’s move pool is unbelievable if he just uses a fighting type move he basically takes out all of the Pokémon by himself plus he got flame and thunder attacks for sunkern and staravia respectively so it’s an easy win(also I don’t think you/the person being defended should be able to catch Pokémon or do anything at all since your being defended by Pokémon not attacking)

I would use the satarvia to pick up the snorlax, fly up high and just drop them. They probably have enough hp to survive but the damage the impact would do would be insane. Also sunkern

10000 sunkern can literally just shield any attack, and 5 snorlax just body slam everything else into oblivion. snorlax also can blizzard the staravia

My pick: the arcanine and the snorlax. The strategy: have the arcanine use extreme speed to steal the master ball for me, use the master ball to catch the alpha of the Mightenyna, now all the Mighteyna are on my side.

I like how Mikey is super against sunkern and loves staravia while papasea is just the opposite

I would agree that so many sunkerns would be very powerful, if they weren't basically the slowest and most frail pokemons of them all. So most of the other pokemon go first (especially Arcanine and Staravia are good here) because they will attack first, take quite a bunch out and when sunkern charges for solarbeam they can make a dent in the middle of all the sunkern and than the other sunkern will have to hit each other if they want to hit my pokemon and me. And I don't think they are as organized if they don't have a trainer. I think I would go for a Arcanine and maybe ride one that just brings me to safety all the time.

My choices: The Two Slakings and and Fifty Staravia. I'm choosing the Staravias for the same reason as Mikey, that they all have intimidate and are the only flying type Pokemon out of the choices. I picked the Slakings because if the both have truant, I could just make one attack first, then make the other one attack while the first one is slacking off, the two of them blasting Solar Beam after Hammer Arm after Slack Off. Also, I feel like twenty-five Staravias could definitely carry a Slaking, so imagine an airborne army of birds with big, fat, superweapons carried under their talons.

“Poisoning the Slaking” ...Slaking used facade.

Who knows, maybe you have a sun stone the size of a boulder. Just use that to evolve All the sunkern, and they just Leaf Tornado/ Leaf storm/ petal dance/ giga drain/ magical leaf everything.

Arcanine and Staravia for me as well. The two making flaming tornadoes and hurricanes sweeping through the sunkerns. Others are just colateral damage.

Me: hmm... Pretty good reasoning John but I wonder how the base stat totals would factor in. So we need Mikey's opinion here *video cuts to Mikey*

I love the part when Mikey was with a bunch of Sunflower seeds that part was so funny. Now if I do this I would pick Ash, the Sunkern so I can have a lot of Sunflora, the Mightyena and Staravia.

2 slaking and 4 arcanine. The slaking hit the ground at the same time, creating an earthquake that sends up pebbles at such a high velocity that they shred through staravia. The earthquake stuns all the Pokémon, but by having two Slaking diagonally with arcanine and me in the middle, then the earthquake contradicts each other, and the tectonic plates under us clash with enough force to make a mountain under my feet. The arcanine start melting the mountain, and by the time the mountain is liquid but still has shape, the slaking have recovered. They punch the molten mountain, and molten lava goes everywhere, with the force creating heat, fully melting the mountain and the lava goes everywhere, destroying all the Pokémon.

I’m going with the 50 staravia and 5 Snorlax. The staravia’s easily take out the sunkerns with wing attack, so we’re good there. And due to there airborn possibilities, they could probably do really good new real damage to Mightyena, Seviper, and Tauros. The snorlax could probably 2 hit the Slakings, but 2 of them go down. The rest of the snorlax could take out the Arcanines.

Just ride one of the staravia using fly and have the rest using heatwave or round to kill everything else. And on top of that after killing all the sunkern and arcanine set up sunny day make that heatwave stronger to finish off everything else.

I would use the staravias and snorlax. All the snorlax would be equipped with counter so they could deal huge amounts of damage whilst taking minimal in return. The staravias are all level 35 and need a smidgen of exp to level up so they all gain exp and evolve giving me 50 powerful staraptors. Then one could swoop down and steal ash's master balls. I specifically say balls in plural because Ash by thee time the screenshot was taken had already visited 5 regions and has had a chance to steal each of those region's master balls. And according to this logic, Ash should theoretically have 5 master balls and thus I would catch the arcanines and one of the tauros or seviper or mightyena.

6:34 Staravia can also learn double team so if all the staravia used as many double teams as they could, that's a lot more birds, most of which can't be hit

@SB, u could use the staravia to carry enemy tauros theoretically tho, and then take the arcanine to fry everything else (+ 1 staravia to snatch Master ball from Ash, so then u can grab another pokemon)

1:52 Personally I'd pick the Staravia cause they are all around great pokemon and they can just fly me up into the air out of the other's reach. And I'd also pick the sunkurns, for the sole reason that I dont care how strong you are, 10k sunkurns would eviscerate all of the PP of all the other enemies then just eventually pick their struggling foes apart.

John, this concept ya came up with is so funny. I'd pick the 10 Seviper and the Arcanine quartet. Or Mikey's idea.

For me, I'd pick Ash. If we decide to let him use any Pokemon that he had in the anime that is back with Professor Oak, he has so many options to wreck everything. Also, I'd pick the Sunkerns too because they would basically be like locusts, swarming everything and firing off Solar Beams everywhere as long as its sunny.

John: Seviper stabs in the sky at the Staravias Also John: The Sevipers can't stab you up in the air

At the beginning of this video I was thinking that Jack was going to pick the sunkern and would not be able to explain it in any way that made sense other than to his Gigantamax head. At the end of the video I realized that there was a reason that everyone says he has dynamax brain.

Well, in my opinion the snorlax and arcanine would be the best choice cause The snorlaxes can create a box around you so that even when they die their dead bodies will still protect you from attacks, and the arcanines could obliterate all of the pokemon.

Staravia and sunkern are best ones, massive birds carrying massive beams from the sun (solar beam) and just putting them to sleep

Arcinine has a Pokedex entry that explains that anyone who listens to his bark is pit in a trance due to jow majestic it is. The four Arcinine are all you would need to win because nothing else would be able to do anything.

Strength in numbers folks, we gotta do Staravia and Mightyena

Great video, that was funny and interesting. I would do the staravia and arcanine, as I feel they are really helpful. Keep it up!

John: However you interpret the picture, that's how it is. Me: I think the 10k sunkerns are actually all mews and will untransform and destroy everything

So my plan would be the 1000 sunkerns and they make a wall as sort of death foughter and then the staravia since they're the only one that flys and can be used to just chip away and like what Mikey said intimidate will help alot and also it was priority moves