Joel and Riv Get Into a HEATED Grizzlies Debate Before the Trade Deadline

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@tigerscott5929 Жыл бұрын

Joel is so afraid of letting someone have a counter-argument. He can’t even help himself but to shout over people like they ain’t allowed to have an opinion

@dawsenchastain3466 Жыл бұрын

It’s what happens when you’re arguing with emotions instead of logic

@tigerscott5929 Жыл бұрын

@@dawsenchastain3466 Correct

@FreeTheColonized Жыл бұрын

Very interested to see how this convo changes with KD on the suns

@lukedobbs245 Жыл бұрын

“Lower your fucking tone” 😂😂😂😂

@lukedobbs245 Жыл бұрын

Thank you drew !!! 😂😂😂😂😂

@manuelapolinaris917 Жыл бұрын

That sent me😂

@kevinzapata5348 Жыл бұрын

I respect Joel to consistently have the worst takes on the show

@Armandoamurillo Жыл бұрын

He’s not wrong though

@yaboiiity6067 Жыл бұрын

@@Armandoamurilloyes he is😭 bro just be hating its so obvious

@tigerscott5929 Жыл бұрын

@@Armandoamurillo that man only ever talks with his emotions bro

@austinhowser7838 Жыл бұрын

He’s right here

@MrKohulann30 Жыл бұрын

@@Armandoamurillo you sure about that?

@sydguitar99 Жыл бұрын

Joel just flailing and shouting over everyone like a brat LOL.

@isaiiah_x Жыл бұрын

Memphis Disrespect is insane

@AB21 Жыл бұрын

no its not, they aint doing shit

@etc8217 Жыл бұрын

joel been cooking on these takes recently i agree the grizzlies are not elite

@1990POE Жыл бұрын

Neither are the nuggets. No evidence says they are

@tigerscott5929 Жыл бұрын

There’s no evidence for Denver being elite as a team that you can’t also provide for Memphis. Yes they’ve been awful against the West but they still sit 2nd in the West as we speak.

@CxdyDemp Жыл бұрын

You don’t have to yell like an idiot to have a good take. This isn’t passion, this is Joel with anger issues.

@calebclay2713 Жыл бұрын

Mavs, Suns, Nuggets definitely better than the grizzlies rn

@sdtrezvant Жыл бұрын

Mavs not better than the grizzlies stop it

@EchoDragonHawk Жыл бұрын

@@sdtrezvant facts mavs definitely not better lol

@aarondeatherage7678 Жыл бұрын

Mavs are 7-0 in the last 7 games Luka has played against the Grizzlies lol

@mrjacobnooch8328 Жыл бұрын

warriors too

@Joe_Ma99 Жыл бұрын

@@sdtrezvant mavs kick the shit out of them everytime they play and the only thing thing they’ve done in playoffs is beat a weak timberwolves team. 😂

@MrHiMyNameSucks Жыл бұрын

Grizzlies are the 2nd youngest team in the NBA. Just being in this conversation is amazing 🥹 Joel, stop disrespecting Ja. He is the ONLY player in the NBA that is top 10 in points per possesion and top 10 in assists per possesion. The ONLY one. Not Luka, Not Jokic, Not Trae. Temetrius.

@denavaughan8867 Жыл бұрын

Top 5 in assist.

@etc8217 Жыл бұрын

riv is a casual josh green this year is really good on defense also was clamping kawhi last game.

@etc8217 Жыл бұрын

@@sydoesgames did we watch the same game? kawhi only scored 2 times on him 🤡. also it hasn't been just 1 game he has been playing really good defense for the whole year.

@Jayvawn Жыл бұрын

The grizzlies are not elite. Their ceiling is the 2nd round. Are they great? Yes. Elite? No. The mavs have shown to be elite solely due to that man Luka doncic, Joel is correct.

@Jayvawn Жыл бұрын

@@sydoesgames Usually that is the case, but Luka is the exception to that rule. He makes them elite. Same with Bron in 2018, MJ in 89’.

@etc8217 Жыл бұрын

@@Jayvawn facts

@sydoesgames Жыл бұрын

@@Jayvawn luka hasnt even made the finals. what are we talking about

@Jayvawn Жыл бұрын

@@sydoesgames neither did MJ in 89’ but he carried that team to the ECF against the eventual champs in the Pistons. Luka is an outlier needle mover

@sydoesgames Жыл бұрын

@@Jayvawn then so is trae young. did the same thing in 2021. by that standard

@muadsalad7315 Жыл бұрын

5:20 bro is flamboyant as hell😂😂😂

@idrial931 Жыл бұрын

Definitely agree, n would go a step further in saying Dallas could definitely beat Denver. Sure I wouldn’t favour them, but I think there’s a good chance they could. A starting 5 of Doncic, Kyrie, Green, Wood and Powell is kinda tough with a bench of Hardaway Jr, McGee, Bullock, that new Hardy kid, Kleber etc is also not bad options. Heard they might get another guard or something that have been released, hearing that a lot from Mavs fans (a John Wall type). I would favour them against every team apart from the Nuggs n it’d be 50/50 with the Suns. All these other teams just don’t have nearly as good stars or co stars to compete with Dallas, n there depth isn’t amazing either or that much better then Dallas

@woke49 Жыл бұрын

Dallas just got put together 3 days ago they beating no Denver or grizzlies

@idrial931 Жыл бұрын

@@woke49 Luka alone solo squadded number 1 seed Phoenix Suns last year. Now with a 27ppg efficient scorer in Kyrie (all star starter) n 19ppg efficient scorer in Christian Wood they definitely have a chance

@woke49 Жыл бұрын

@@idrial931 jalen bruson and Spencer dinwiddie balled that series

@idrial931 Жыл бұрын

@@woke49 they didn’t really. They balled in the Utah series, Luka carried them throughout the whole Suns series. Plus since then Josh Green has gone up a level, they added more guys in Javale McGee, Christian Wood n Jaden Hardy. McGee being a decent rim protector, Wood being an efficient volume scorer and Jaden Hardy who’s shown a lot of promise. I presume they r gonna add a 3rd hall handler out of Bev, Nunn, Wall n Russ also. Or one of those guys who r gonna get bought out. Oh yea n they got in KYRIE IRVING. I definitely think they have made big strides since that Suns series, Jalen Brunson whilst he was good at the Mavs n a solid number 2/3 he’s clearly better as a number 1 ball handler. Dinwiddie again a good efficient shooter but again he’s no Kyrie Irving, n again I forgot to mention they didn’t have Hardaway Jr that whole series who’s also a solid scorer n puts up similar stat lines to Dinwiddie (although not the same level of ball handler). As said McGee is another option along with Powell for rim protection (unless they bring in another big man) n whilst DFS is a big loss defensively the Mavs are much better offensively now n they got guys like Green, Powell n even Christian Wood who have all improved defensively. Even Luka has gotten better this year defensively IMO. I definitely take them over the Grizzlies, n the Nugs as I said I’d back the Nugs. But i definitely would say it’s a tight series

@johnmurray9713 Жыл бұрын

I like this debate

@Adbar10XD Жыл бұрын

Rare W from Joel, Grizzlies need another star scorer besides Ja or Bane, Ja is a star and Bane is awesome but they have no 3 level superstar scorer. JJJ is the best player on the team til Ja shows he can either give a damn on defense or that he can be an elite floor spacer

@rohangupte3545 Жыл бұрын

JJJ needs to improve offensively and he fouls out too much in the playoffs

@juhkobee Жыл бұрын

terrible take. JJJ is too foul prone, and too inconsistent on offense to be number 1. Ja is a top 13 player in basketball. JJJ might not even be top 20-25 on a nightly basis.

@Adbar10XD Жыл бұрын

@@juhkobee i typically value great offensive players over great defensive players but being small and not giving enough effort on defense is too detrimental to a teams playoff chances. JJJ’s foul problems are an issue in the playoffs as well but I think his overall impact is greater than Ja’s when you account for both of their flawed player profiles. The Grizzlies literally were the worst defense in the league before JJJ came back and are arguably now the best defense in the league, while I rarely see their level of play drop off with Ja out of the lineup.

@Seph Жыл бұрын

Gotta be the funniest podcast

@etc8217 Жыл бұрын

mavs defense is underrated this year

@ghandibanks Жыл бұрын

Going to get worse without DFS

@Mo2Litty Жыл бұрын

How is it underrated if they’re ranked 24th if defensive efficiency

@jogunsan Жыл бұрын

No maxi pretty much all season and c wood playing those minutes, when maxi comes back we’ll maybe be average on defense

@305dagoat4 Жыл бұрын

@Joguns Gaming idk the last time Maxi played against my heat, he was servicable on the perimeter defensively

@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733 Жыл бұрын

It’s also a gap between ja and book. Book clears. Feel people propping up ja too quick

@mynamewalter5082 Жыл бұрын

Y’all need to shut big boys mic off. Agreed with him about the grizzlies but the way he argued it literally made me want the other side to win the argument. Dude needs calm tf down

@theatlanticfiles Жыл бұрын

Now that the Durant trade has happened, I'm taking Memphis, GSW, LAC, and PHX all over the Mavs in a 7-game series given that everyone is healthy. I'd probably take the Mavs over the Kings as well, however that could be a really tight series because the Kings aren't just a walkover team anymore

@lord_vipr Жыл бұрын

joel and riv be goin in on each other ODEEE pause|

@Ethan-yl5fp Жыл бұрын

We all know why Joel doesn’t like the Grizzlies, same reason he doesn’t like certain types of QBs, very questionable the way he speaks on things

@UnknownFilipino Жыл бұрын

This would've been a totally different discussion if it happened after the KD trade to PHX! Haha!

@youngnebula187 Жыл бұрын

Joel ... is always making Riv tight 🏀😆

@mattg8433 Жыл бұрын

Joel spitting here about Ja not being Luka and saying Luka and Kyrie >> Ja and Bane

@frizzlej7201 Жыл бұрын

Hahaha how does that L taste 😂😂😂

@metabolicraged Жыл бұрын

🤣 heated

@bkj6987 Жыл бұрын

You hate the Grizzlies? IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!😂🐻🏀

@AB21 Жыл бұрын

dont care Ja is a criminal

@10SCTyrant Жыл бұрын

This Kenny lofton looking dude need to put more respect on Memphis name. The grizzlies will remember everything when there is a parade on Beale Street in June. Grizzlies are putting expectations high on theirselves as being the 3rd youngest team in the league. You shoot for the stars and you still going to end up in the sky. Their psychology may be written about one day.

@rohangupte3545 Жыл бұрын

This aged well 😂😂😂

@rohangupte3545 Жыл бұрын

Lofton is nice though

@anpierre3502 Жыл бұрын

Joel reminds me of max kellerman when he was on first take wit Stephen A

@FaLLeN3421 Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for Riv he was getting double teamed by P and Joel. But he should’ve used the argument that Booker was absolutely nothing and was the last seed in the WC without Chris Paul and Ja morant is looking other worldly when it’s his team and he’s the bus driver.

@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733 Жыл бұрын

Crazy i agree with everything joel saying

@frizzlej7201 Жыл бұрын

So you’re saying you’re just as dumb 😂

@jogunsan Жыл бұрын

Mavs would sweep the grizzlies in a playoff series, I’m telling y’all now grizzlies offense doesn’t stand a chance.

@sydguitar99 Жыл бұрын

We don't even know how Kyrie and Luka doncic are going to mesh together so what's the point of jumping to conclusions.

@victorvic4659 Жыл бұрын

Grizzlies are good but their halfcourt offense is the problem. They need to learn how to play without Adams,who is unplayable in playoffs

@youngnebula187 Жыл бұрын

Joel and Ticket gotta be distant relatives...😆....

@aarondeatherage7678 Жыл бұрын

The Grizz have a losing record against Western Conference teams this year…. They are not elite amongst the West contenders.

@abhoundzo4938 Жыл бұрын

Why every time I watch them, they be bullying dude in the back 😂

@FreshBOI1579 Жыл бұрын

Bro idc what y’all say , Joel is 100% right here, ain’t no fucking way the grizzlies are elite whatsoever. I don’t believe in that team to beat hardly anyone in the playoffs lmao

@afalam9986 Жыл бұрын

no one even close half the ja morant. ja morant has 1 billion fans

@Tkaayuchiha Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣send dru to players choice he needs that heated battle training

@adanramirez3092 Жыл бұрын

I stan Riv and Drew and Dehls

@JoJoR1017 Жыл бұрын

This has to be before KD got traded to the suns!

@Tommy-sb9tw Жыл бұрын

That series didn’t speak volumes to the grizzlies as a whole. Everyone know the wolves completely wet that bed. It’s not even a debate tbh

@nikkrelj471 Жыл бұрын

Memphis almost lost to Minnesota in the first round last year cause ja was so "elite" if Minnesota wasnt that dumb

@deshaunblocker1323 Жыл бұрын

Drew was talking in circles I hate when he try to take control of the conversation

@snackmiester22 Жыл бұрын

The dude Joel a troll 😂

@ThoughtsOfLyes Жыл бұрын

LOL Josh Green clamped Kawhi the whole night haha wtf you guys talking bout ?!

@sydoesgames Жыл бұрын

he aint doing that for a playoff series

@ThoughtsOfLyes Жыл бұрын

@@sydoesgames let's wait and see.

@KP-sh9he 8 ай бұрын

The Joel schtick is aggravating

@nikkrelj471 Жыл бұрын

I dont understand why no one gives luka the benefit of the doubt. Everyone underestimates what luka can do and then get their mouths shut in the playoffs yet do the same thing again next year. Definition of insanity

@lutzismail7874 9 ай бұрын

well they missed the playoffs, soooo...

@ervogb9882 Жыл бұрын

Desmon bane averaging 21 ppg he a great co star

@_ripVanWinkle_ Жыл бұрын

Mavs over grizzlies in 6

@etc8217 Жыл бұрын

mavs in 5

@jogunsan Жыл бұрын

Mavs in 4 fr

@nikkrelj471 Жыл бұрын

Playoffs is a half court offense. And memphis is terrible at that

@afalam9986 Жыл бұрын

ja morant - the emperor of basketball

@brandontran366 Жыл бұрын

Grizzlies rn are not elite or on the same level as the nuggets rn. Joel was right. Grizzlies can improve rn but they have lost to many games against the west currently

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@moyaqoob7527 Жыл бұрын

Defo something wrong in Joel head

@etc8217 Жыл бұрын

not really he is speaking facts and his takes have been good recently

@Nathan-zd8ew Жыл бұрын

@@etc8217 His takes are the worst bro watchu on

@Alec-ge5sq Жыл бұрын

all for the mavs to miss the playoffs

@wayno115 Жыл бұрын

How many teams does Joel have in the league 😂

@KingxZangetsu Жыл бұрын

Buggin if u think Grizzlies bout to do shit

@tako4mvp719 Жыл бұрын

It’s funny because you can say the grizzlies hasn’t won anything but what have the mavs or nuggets won? The grizzlies did better against the mavs last year than the mavs did and they haven’t blown a series yet like the nuggets. Oh and y’all are way too low on Ja morant. His playmaking +scoring alone makes him better than Booker imo. He’s been money 💰 n the playoffs too

@user-xd7hi4vg2y Жыл бұрын

Ja morant and Dbook doesnt sit on the same table im sorry joel right even tho morant n asty asf but dbook IS A DAWG bro

@tao7377 Жыл бұрын

4KT JA

@johnreyes5873 Жыл бұрын

I’m sorry bro but I gotta say it Ja at best rn is a star not a superstar he ain’t a closer kind of player that people think he is or talk about him to be there is levels to this and Ja ain’t there yet maybe in the future but not now or even in the past

@vincentemireles3794 Жыл бұрын

Bruh wat??

@juneeburgos9034 Жыл бұрын

Riv took N L here lmao relax buddy

@nikkrelj471 Жыл бұрын

Mavs beat the suns cause they had luka. Memphis wouldn't have beaten the suns in that series

@JoJoR1017 Жыл бұрын

Dude with that jersey has no need to be there he has no good points at all. That’s why he gets so mad when he feel like he can’t speak but he don’t realize nobody wanna hear that BS

@castro2k14 Жыл бұрын

Yea KD jus came into the west there dogging the grizzlies

@wengz717 Жыл бұрын

Can y’all have a ball conversation without yelling? Damn

@Tommy-sb9tw Жыл бұрын

Grizzlies are elite yet there have a losing record against the west lol

@gronen9585 Жыл бұрын

Ain’t gone lie gotta turn this off, joel argue voice is annoying me. TTW we go!

@henry7486 Жыл бұрын

I swear so many ppl overrate teams who haven’t done shit, Mavs, Grizzlies and Nuggets have never even been that close to a Finals. 2 of them have made it to the conference finals once but they lost pretty convincingly. Suns are hard to judge since they just made such a drastic change and they did make the finals in 2021 and made it a pretty close series

@jayrutledge4692 Жыл бұрын

Memphis had lost 8 of there last 9 games that’s not elite

@MrHiMyNameSucks Жыл бұрын

Nuggets lost to Orlando that’s not elite

@jayrutledge4692 Жыл бұрын

@@MrHiMyNameSucks that same magic team has won both meetings against gsw a win against the Celtics and are absolutely loaded with talent that’s not a flex how is 1 the equivalent to 8 losses

@denavaughan8867 Жыл бұрын

And they have yet to beat the Grizzlies.

@BoiTrey725 Жыл бұрын

@@MrHiMyNameSucks you compared 1 loss to 8 losses lmfaooooo

@sportspsp Жыл бұрын

Grizzles talk way too much. Show is something first before you can talk as much.

@Teagod77 Жыл бұрын

Mane stfu npc your saying the same shit everybody been saying for weeks . Let me guess gsw meater or a new phx fan

@mattcouldwell9706 Жыл бұрын

Mavs would slap the Grizzlies, stop playing

@jckrell Жыл бұрын

Denver - elite??? Ha ha ha. West will come down to Memphis and Golden State.

@jckrell Жыл бұрын

Sorry don't know these guys. Who is the idiot in the middle on the end.

@lutzismail7874 9 ай бұрын

this didn't age well

@woke49 Жыл бұрын

Anybody that thinks the mavericks are better than the grizzlies need they azz whoop

@brandonsimpson8604 Жыл бұрын

If You wanna make someone mad bring up the Grizzlies!😂 Most hated team in the NBA

@ubereats3047 Жыл бұрын

Joel be having some bad takes but damn Riv took an L once he said Grizzlies are elite

@thedude3140 Жыл бұрын

Mavs warriors and nuggets are the only elite teams.

@_ripVanWinkle_ Жыл бұрын

Suns

@Keithwilsonjr757 Жыл бұрын

Lmao lower your tone

@goatinaroun1944 Жыл бұрын

The grizzlies are not elite what the fuck😂😂

@afalam9986 Жыл бұрын

ja is ja noone is ja

@CavalierKingdom Жыл бұрын

Joel needs to stop screaming, nobody cares.

@chouavue9056 Жыл бұрын

Kyrie has shown he can destroy team. He destroy the Cavs, he destroy the Celtics, he destroy the Nets. Next team up is the Mavs.

@connerkortea9113 Жыл бұрын

Joel fail to realize the grizzly’s have one of the best records rn 😂

@rohangupte3545 Жыл бұрын

Record doesn’t mean that mean anything there talented just don’t enough playoff experience imo

@Rjvsss Жыл бұрын

Devin booker isn’t ja morant I rest my case

@DTS_I Жыл бұрын

Grizzlies overrated

@CxdyDemp Жыл бұрын

This is embarrassing, 2 guests and you guys are fighting like toddlers. This podcast will never have progression like through the wire due to Joel being a loose cannon.