Such great use of Medieval 2 to illustrate pike and shot warfare. This is a really well done video.

These formations could actually be reaally helpful in empire tw and napoleon tw, I tried and i really is thanks a lot

I use Dutch formation, but with my own modifications that are adopted from Swedes. In center I have 5 pike units and 4 musket arranged in this fashion: pike-shot-pike-shot-pike-shot-pike-shot-pike, where shot units are few paces moved to the back, so that the enemy who came very close is entangled in fight with pikes while my shot units pour constantly at him, even from point blank. All units are in square-like deep formations. In that way I assure they will not run right away and have enough reserves in back ranks to fill the gaps. And also they can endure prolonged fight in that formation. This formation is good against combined attacks of enemy cavalry and pikemen. This is Swedish influence: At each flank I have musket unit but now not in square but 2 ranked line, behind it in close support of pistols are 2 units of ''lobsters'' - armored cavalry armed with pistols. So each flank musket unit is supported with 2 units of cavalry who shoots pistols over their heads. In that way I have very good fire superiority on flanks against enemy cavalry or infantry. Sometimes I use 2 units of Hessian organ artillery and put it in center between two pike units instead of 1 musket unit. They are devastating - killing more than 600 men. The rest of 2 to 4 units are in reserve. Usually zweihander units or very high quality pike units.

looks better then Empire Total war to be honest.

There is something so hypnotic to this video that I always find myself coming back to it.

Man this was awesome

This is a neat video showing history in such a great game and mod! Thanks, I'm subbing

Gustavus Adolphus trained the first three ranks of his musketeers to fire simultaneously in one devastating super volley prior to close combat.

This video is as ancient as the renaissance itself

Very instructive, and very cool looking. I'm sure this video made many people interested in this mod. I have a remark to make : I noticed that the musketeers fired rather rapidly. Is it to simulate the fact that each rank would fire in succession ?

Thank u. This is all going to be extremely helpful in the new napoleon mod pike and shot

The distinctive diamond shape of the Tercio looks epic, I like the look of the Dutch Romanesque manipular-like formation, too. Great video buddy, subbed :)

You can download the 1648 mod at www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?593141-Download-and-Installation-v2-0

I know this maybe late. But thank you for this video so much. There are so little video about this period and warfare that it is impossible for me to get any idea how it work.

You gotta remake this video but in Total War Empire 2!!!

nice vid! really cool to try out on the game.

I'm gonna try to use what I've learned here for Shogun 2.

Great Video! You picked up a subscriber!

Sadly in the mod and in all total war the AI cannot do pike and shots formations, but if CA make units with differente type of soldiers, and them maybe we can hope.

meanwhile in total war warhammer musketeers have automatic rifles and get obstructed by a 1 inch tall hill. This wouldn't work anyways because of the zombies, wizards, and anything else that can brush it off but it should at least work against bretonnia or something

At 9:51 shouldn't that company of horse be suffering friendly fire from the musketeer unit in the rear?

This was great

Cool video and excellent demonstration of different pike and ball formations! I wish you had narrated it! Why not mention of the Landesknects and Maximilian's reforms to artillery?

I wish there was a mainly pike and shot TW

Hey, where can I find contemporary sources on the Dutch pike and shot formation? As in, a manual from the time period. I do recall a Duth manual from the Napoleonic era where they had three ranks that rotated.

I wonder how often somebody in the front of the formation would accidentally be shot by someone behind them

wasn't the tercio made of 1/3 pike 1/3 musketeer and 1/3 swordsman (Zweihander)? The swordsman would fight if an enemy infantry charged the formation, the pike warded off cavalry and the musketeers would fire before any meele engagement would happen.

Good formation! Need to do this :) Wonder how the Romans used in 1400 Wearing those Italian armous and such

Hey lad can I get a link to the mod and may I ask how complete is it? Does it have a campaign? Edit.nevermind I saw that you had more gameplay on your channel and I found the twcenter link I wish someone would post it on moddb I hate twcenter format

interesting info there though the one thing the formations all lack is artillery in massed use or enough artillery regiments deployed over the length of the field which can pound holes in the formations once artillery became battlefield pratical formations shown there are one way to get blown to peaces and vet up the gun crews real fast.

have you guys thought on imigrating the mod over to NTW?

best mod i ever played!

Do you think this is how the musket line battle came into action during the nepolionic era?

I might adapt this in my own way into my Medieval2 total war britanic campaign

Battle of "White Mountain" ? I appreciate the google's effort, but the battle is properly called "The Battle of White Hill (1620)", because it was a battle near Prague on a hill, only called a "mountain" (in native - czech - language "Bílá Hora") 1620 To Czechs, it symbolizes an utter defeat and destruction of hope. Some say: "Jako na Bílé Hoře." "Just like the White Hill." :)

You can do it even better with the otomo shogun 2

cossacks sounds

Amazing video

Nice job!

The Spanish formation (Original Tercio): Fear our invincible army! The Dutch formation: Sir, this would be perfect if we added a lot of heavy artillery! (Maurits): "Nah, I hate to lug those heavy lumps of iron around." The Danish formation: it's like a local speciality. Noone else touches it. The Swedish formation: bring in the Heavy Metal. Let's Rock! You'd think I would say the Dutch formation is the best. But nah. Being a Dutchman myself, I can come up with a very valid reason for not employing a lot of heavy artillery. Cannon are expensive. What if we lose a few pieces during a retreat or if we lose a battle? Who is going to explain that to the state treasurer? We can easily train a few thousands of new musketeers and quickly. Compared to cannon, muskets are cheap.

best mod for me nice vid thx

good one but i think you can show more with Empire TW engine, especially rank firing.

what a great game

Would be interesting to see if it's better to break up an army's cavalry into separate units attached to every pike and shot formation instead of putting cavalry on the wings. In lots of battles gaps open up between the battle line during combat, presenting opportunities for cavalry to hit enemy units in the flank & rear.

That was so cool

So good

Does anyone know how to get the launcher to work for 1648 total war with a steam version of mtw2? If so an explanation would be appreciated.

Tried this in Warhammer. Did not end well lol

So which is better? Tercio or Battalia?

good video

nice

That was fucking epic do you know any other pile and shot mods for total war

where can i find all the diffrent countries in detail. wanna know about the germans specifically

What happened if you use the pike and shot Formation in shogun 2 total war

Oh WOW! I gotta get this mod. Where can I download?

Is there anything important to know before installing or downloading the mod?

Mod please?!???

If the Musketeers would fire whilst moving historically could that not be replicated by scripting them to behave like skirmish cav, or would that break everything?

How do you hide the mini map in replays?

What if enemy charge at our musketeers in Dutch formation ?

And people charged those things? Deliberately?

Sadly, it just doesn't work in Medieval 2. Cavalry is SOOOO overpowering that a full cavalry army can rout a balanced army with just 1 frontal charge. The enemy routs, before I can flank them! The only thing I found working is a Tercio styled army. Every 4 pikemen forming a square has 1 gunmen "guarrisoned". Even then, the casualty is too great to be effective in a campaign. I understand cavalry domination is historically accurate in the Early Middie Age, but pikemen in the Late Middle Age should have heavy armours.

I wonder what strategies did ottomans adopt during battlefield. They manage to annihilate most european nations till 1700

what mod is this?

Spanish tercio?

Can the AI handle this? or is it retarded and tires to rush you with melee or cavalry? :) looks fucking amazing btw!

I thought this was turn based?

Much prefer the Thin Red Line tactic. Every gun fires at the same time, which demoralized and confused the enemy. Granted at this point cavalry is kept around out of a sense of tradition and muskets are far more powerful and reliable

that dutch formation does not work for me in total war, warhammer, when the Spanish one does.

This is all BS. The Swiss where the founder of every Pikeformation after. The Swiss where the first one who won battles whitout cavallery and musketes. The German Landsknechte are a cheap imitation of the Swiss Tactic. The Spanish Tercios also have theire origin from the Swiss Tactic which was in fact very simple. The Vorhut(Scouts) thry find the foe and the Terrain where the Swiss would fight. The Vorhut attacked the foe and keeping them busy until the Mainforce known as Gewalthaufen lance a furiouse, brutal and with no mercy attack, then last but not least the Nachhut attacks the enemy and gave him the rest. Swiss Guards of the Pope are highly regardet for theire fighting skills and every enemy knows a Swiss never capitulate and will fight till death against anyone.