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Fix It Again, Tony! (FIAT No-Crank w/Keith: Super Saturday Special)

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Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

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@bernardaflores1720
@bernardaflores1720 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the 2 amigos working together. Boy, boy Keith does have lots of toy scanners!
@bernardaflores1720
@bernardaflores1720 Жыл бұрын
@@John-wz3iu Must be real nice!
@GroundedDiagnostics
@GroundedDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
nice to see Keith out in the field again. miss your videos has it really been 2 years.
@atikovi1
@atikovi1 Жыл бұрын
On any Multiair engine that's been sitting more than a few weeks, you will have to crank it a good 60 seconds at a time (in 15 second increments to save the starter and battery) in order to pump up the valve train with oil and get the valves to function. That's why it sounded like no compression when you first cranked it.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Жыл бұрын
"Multierror engine" sounds more fitting..
@thebiggerman6975
@thebiggerman6975 Жыл бұрын
Why do they even bother with crap like that,just another pita seems to me
@froggy0162
@froggy0162 Жыл бұрын
@@thebiggerman6975 because it’s a genius system that gives amazing amounts of valve control to the ECU. Huge performance and economy for a 1.4.
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 Жыл бұрын
@@froggy0162 More stuff to break...I think that's what you meant to say ;)
@froggy0162
@froggy0162 Жыл бұрын
@@adamtrombino106 Not really. An extra set of solenoids, but one less camshaft and no dephasers. Probably a lower part count than a standard modern 16 valve head.
@bertblue9683
@bertblue9683 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching you over a year now and truly impressed with your skills and still don't imagine too many techs doing it to this level. You're setting the new standard.
@charleshenshaw9099
@charleshenshaw9099 Жыл бұрын
It's great to see you and Keith out fixing autos.
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
Keith has a VERY good command of his automotive knowledge. When you started to operate the starter the first thing that came to mind was the engine has no compression for whatever reason. (Jumped time, valve train problem?) Immediately, Keith says the Multi-Air system is causing that and it sounds like a good engine. IIRC Charles Chips were made in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Great video!
@jeremyah78
@jeremyah78 Жыл бұрын
My thought about Keith too! My first impression of that roll over was, “oooh! That ain’t good!” And then Keith pipes in with the knowledge!
@tbelding
@tbelding Жыл бұрын
In Houston, we used to have Charles Chips, where they delivered to your house. HUGE metal cans of potato chips. My folks still have one of the cans at home. (It's from the 70's)
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
@@tbelding I still have our metal can from the '70's. I buy Charles Chips at Cracker Barrel in bags and dump them in the can. I have a co-worker that drove a Charles Chips truck back-in-the-day and had him taste them. He said they tasted the same. I think they are made in New Jersey now.
@tbelding
@tbelding Жыл бұрын
@@lvsqcsl I'll have to check a local Cracker Barrel and see if they sell them down here in the Houston area. Thanks for the info!
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
@@tbelding They have a website, you can order them online. I wouldn't recommend it, though because they get damaged. I got some once that was nothing but dust and crumbs.
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this TWO-PRONGED ATTACK by you and Keith. What I just witnessed was TWO giant technicians working together ON THE SAME LEVEL. Doesn't get any better than this.
@sblagg527
@sblagg527 Жыл бұрын
How could you comprehend anything with them constantly talking over each other? Reminded me of those god awful garage repair shop shows on Velocity
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon Жыл бұрын
@@sblagg527527 Sorry, I didn't see it that way. Yes, there were ideas and suggestions flying here and there - but it was totally understandable. I had no difficulty in following the "flow" of ideas and possible solutions. Doing the work they do requires a bit of "mental multitasking." Yes, they were continually introducing different test equipment - it worked well, IMHO. They were constantly asking each other: "Are we looking for a power or a ground" - should that bias voltage be that elevated," and on and on. Reminded me when I was working aircraft Avionics problems on large airplanes. Several techs with SEVERAL binders of wiring diagrams discussing this and that. Yes, it was "busy" then also. But this free flow of ideas is what allowed the problem to be solved. Thanks for your comments.
@JBlake-moon-shdo
@JBlake-moon-shdo Жыл бұрын
Keith you have been sorely missed working like this. I really hope you take up a little weekend side hobby of doing cars. At any rate great seeing you again.
@jdtractorman7445
@jdtractorman7445 Жыл бұрын
Nice diagnosis. I'll admit I was worried when you sent power to the starter and the motor sounded like it was freewheeling, then Keith explained why, makes sense. I think Keith is getting the "itch" to start vehicle diagnosing in the field again.
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 Жыл бұрын
Good to see Keith out in the field getting his hands dirty again. The way you and Eric O. have waxed poetic about his amazing diag skills over the years makes me think this is where he really wants to be
@jamesmachalik9924
@jamesmachalik9924 Жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch two masters at work..
@woppini
@woppini Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the crank portion, thought for sure blown timing chain. Never would have thought it was ECM controlling the valves. Learn something new every day
@johnwhan7288
@johnwhan7288 Жыл бұрын
So cool watching 2 of the best playing around. Unstoppable
@TheOriginalDaveJ
@TheOriginalDaveJ Жыл бұрын
Ivan, you just can't help yourself can you? I thought Keith was doing this job? I hope he's still speaking to you 🤣
@toddw.9845
@toddw.9845 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Keith again on a video , what sets him apart from most is he never gets caught up in the brand of the car aka chevy , ford, fiat thing he just follows the facts and diagnoses the issue.
@electrolineservicegreece8267
@electrolineservicegreece8267 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ivan an Keith. 5 volt ref ? 99% you check it off camera. Plz Kieth we would like to see you more often. Wish you the best guyz !!!
@stevepalmer4072
@stevepalmer4072 Жыл бұрын
Great work Ivan. Brilliant to see Keith out with you.
@unclemarksdiyauto
@unclemarksdiyauto Жыл бұрын
Nice to see everybody's friend, Keith. I am sure the two of you had a blast working on a few cars together.
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Keith out and about. Good luck with that ECM.
@robertdavis6708
@robertdavis6708 Жыл бұрын
I use to watch Keit working the Staten Island repair shops. When he showed up with his Dunkin Donut coffee, he acted like, ho hum, just another day to discover troubles that other could not. And man was he swift. He wasn't afraid to tear into wiring harnesses, thinking it was on a Easter egg hunt. But I'm glad he got out of that SH and found a great school for his kid. Nice job on this video fellas.
@RipCityBassWorks
@RipCityBassWorks Жыл бұрын
Keith collab videos are always epic. You guys sure saved Tony at the dealership a lot of diagnostic time.
@Malcarper
@Malcarper Жыл бұрын
Great video...... Ivan and Keith, trying to outsmart each other, with their tech knowledge and scan tools.
@willemstreutgers1154
@willemstreutgers1154 Жыл бұрын
As always love the way Ivan and "king"Keith are thinking.
@mikeburdi3464
@mikeburdi3464 Жыл бұрын
Keith seems like such a very chill, humble dude, who possesses a wealth of automotive knowledge. A great person to know.
@gfccbgjxvhd874
@gfccbgjxvhd874 Жыл бұрын
Salut, Les gars vous former un duo de choc. Je suis content 😁 de vous voir ensemble, pour résoudre une panne compliqué "mais pas pour vous" 😂. J'espère vous revoir très bientôt pour un nouveau challenge 👍
@powayimports4175
@powayimports4175 Жыл бұрын
Never knew about the intake valves causing no compression sound. That’s so helpful to know!! Ty!
@EDP1
@EDP1 Жыл бұрын
thats an amazing service you give to people .
@TheMajorLeagueGinger
@TheMajorLeagueGinger Жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 Fiat 500 with 140k miles on it, regular maintenance and it's still running well enough :] I did my belt and water pump at 120k and recently got the trans drained and filled. It's never left me stranded surprisingly
@ginuwine11
@ginuwine11 Жыл бұрын
Great diagnosis, and good to see Keith out. I enjoyed his channel and your ride alongs together a few years back. I liked the group pic, I see my “Pico Essentials” instructor, Brian Mann! Ya’ have a good Thanksgiving holiday and stay blessed!
@stevenkerwin4041
@stevenkerwin4041 Жыл бұрын
Brian Mann doesn't get enough credit from the algorithm. Always have to search for his content.
@basshunter428
@basshunter428 Жыл бұрын
Great to see the "LEGEND" hunting down gremlins again! Happy Holidays, Keith! Great video, Ivan! 👍
@satamanschmidt3428
@satamanschmidt3428 Жыл бұрын
Great to see that Keith is alive and well. I can't see him flying a desk for that much longer before Keith's Midnight Diagnostic Services is back in business. You can take the boy out of Stanton Island but you can't take the Stanton Island out of the boy.
@sblagg527
@sblagg527 Жыл бұрын
STATEN Island, not "Stanton." 🙄
@tbelding
@tbelding Жыл бұрын
@@sblagg527 - Tripadvisor says it's Stanton :) They talk about the Stanton Island Ferry.
@gijsvanoene8423
@gijsvanoene8423 Жыл бұрын
In most pre 2018 Fiat's the BCM holds the coding for all the modules in the car. Simply pug in a new module and it wil code it self with the data from the BCM. After that preform a proxi alignment an it should work.
@TOM2RN
@TOM2RN Жыл бұрын
Company was called Magnetti Marelli until a few years ago. A Japanese company bought them out and shortened it to Marelli. They had a plant here in NC in Sanford. Closed it in 2001 due downturn in the economy and moved operation to Mexico. Plant was opened in 1976 in Sanford. Cheaper labor costs won out.
@roxanneabbott8424
@roxanneabbott8424 Жыл бұрын
Wow, seeing you two together, awesome!!
@arthurfricchione8119
@arthurfricchione8119 Жыл бұрын
Ivan great to see Keith back in the field. Greatly missed. Final diagnosis is engine computer. Interesting to see if one can be located and programmed in todays world. Thanks again to both of you for sharing 👍
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT Жыл бұрын
Good to see you and Keith working side by side (usually he hanged in the background). Great diagnostic on a not-so-easy little car. Too bad it wasn't a NPR, to make it perfect :-)
@ofalejandro12
@ofalejandro12 5 ай бұрын
man when you said man against car i like that it feels so good just cracking your coconut trying to figure out whats the problem with the car what im trying to say is there's nothing better than do what you enjoy to do while making money thats the best and i keep watching your videos always learn something from even if is just a little bit issssss goood man thanks for sharing that knowledge
@fixitnowmowers8065
@fixitnowmowers8065 Жыл бұрын
Ivan's SUZUKI TO THE RESCUE !
@ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO
@ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO Жыл бұрын
Good to see "The Legend" back in action! Great video. I freaked out a little bit hearing the way that engine cranked 😂Btw maybe a good idea to check the 5 volt refs.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Hey how are you doing Eric! Nice to see you in the comments! Happy Thanksgiving bro :)
@weldingjunkie
@weldingjunkie Жыл бұрын
Good to see Keith out in the field again. Are you sure he wanted to touch that Zues lol 😂 looks like you guys had a good time
@jeffjankiewicz5100
@jeffjankiewicz5100 Жыл бұрын
Good to see Keith out in the field again, nice change of pace for him. Keith sure has a lot of toys. RIP Fiat ECM. Thanks Ivan, very interesting.
@michaelkane732
@michaelkane732 Жыл бұрын
two great minds at work!!
@jimmartin9440
@jimmartin9440 Жыл бұрын
Always the best!
@scientist100
@scientist100 Жыл бұрын
The matco scan tool is just like the launch lol
@v8motors.
@v8motors. Жыл бұрын
The best scanners are Keith & Ivan.👍
@casemotube
@casemotube Жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m retired from bending wrenches on electric forklifts, and over three decades, I’ve done my fair share of circuit testing to say the least. That being said, I’d simply like to complement the process of diagnosing that you use, and your procedures for hunting hots and grounds is spotless. Great work on every step! 🫵🏼👍🏼⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@TheShop10
@TheShop10 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, It's the Chuck Norris of Diagnosticians. That sure is an elusive fellow.
@jackrichiedei
@jackrichiedei Жыл бұрын
I wait for your videos . LOVE THEM. I'm an old points , plugs and condenser guy. Rice rockets and rock climbing for the pump . Always liked the tracking down of problems . The challenge and satisfaction of completing a job stoked me. I wish I had stayed with it . Thanks for sharing and teaching us all the right way to diagnose . Are you getting into E V repair ?
@thadmachia9873
@thadmachia9873 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome diagnostic!
@awakenotwoke1973
@awakenotwoke1973 Жыл бұрын
Found In A Tip! I actually started my time at a stealership with Fiat, Renault, Peugeot, Hyundai, and Mazda.
@stevemazzarella7212
@stevemazzarella7212 Жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome!! Thanks for that video
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv Жыл бұрын
Nice to see keith having time away from teaching, hands on is always good. You bounce your/keith's thoughts and catch the faults faster :-D Handy to have more than one diagnostic computer, different style of programing can show more, or just show things in a better way. Dam i'm stating the obvious again lol.
@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8
@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8 Жыл бұрын
Great video .Nice to see Keith out in the sun..
@donaldisrael7147
@donaldisrael7147 Жыл бұрын
A lot of Magneti Morelli on my old Alfss too.
@jamieharris74
@jamieharris74 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2013 Fiat 500 in 2015. Battery went bad, and jumping the car multiple times knocked the PCM out. Waited weeks for one to get shipped from Italy. Fortunately it was still under warranty-and there was still a relatively local dealer.
@themechanic6117
@themechanic6117 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing us along! The amount of scanners on display is crazy lol
@rysacroft
@rysacroft Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see Keith again.Long time no see!
@jonathanclark7155
@jonathanclark7155 Жыл бұрын
Man love your videos. I can watch this all day. Where did you get your training? Self taught? Im a L1 master Tech at a Firestone in Texas. 6 years of experience and this is where i strive to be one day! So motivational
@two6s722
@two6s722 Жыл бұрын
good to see you, Keith😀
@elcheapo5302
@elcheapo5302 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Keith in a video again! Really miss his NLA videos.
@SuperM1687
@SuperM1687 Жыл бұрын
Two Legends!!!
@PaulysAuto
@PaulysAuto Жыл бұрын
Always fun to see Keith back on car...awesome video Ivan, thanks for the video and training gentlemen. Have a wonderful weekend.
@glenharper3136
@glenharper3136 Жыл бұрын
It was GREAT to see Keith. Nice video Ivan.
@salahabdulselam556
@salahabdulselam556 Жыл бұрын
ivaaaaaan i don't know how i missed this vid , getting hyped up ... could you please make a playlist of videos of you and keith doin things together , we would love it
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Way ahead of you... See "Staten Island Express" 🙂👍
@salahabdulselam556
@salahabdulselam556 Жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics :D ivan yeah i've seen them all but keith is not always there :D thankyooo for the awesome sorting of playlists tho kudos from Ethiopia
@patriot2164
@patriot2164 Жыл бұрын
Hey Keith ! Good Seeing you back with Ivan !
@user-ut6ji8my2h
@user-ut6ji8my2h Ай бұрын
Well there's your problem! In Italy you get either a horn or brakes, but not both.😂
@sixertogo
@sixertogo Жыл бұрын
glad to see keith again!!!!
@kyletuttle9064
@kyletuttle9064 Жыл бұрын
Great diag guys always enjoy and learn from you two
@randischwarz5072
@randischwarz5072 Жыл бұрын
Ivan, you forgot one thing bout this vehicle...it makes a great boat anchor.
@williamwhite9767
@williamwhite9767 Жыл бұрын
Two geniuses at work!
@samwojek6628
@samwojek6628 Жыл бұрын
14:15 You could connect a multimeter on current measuring mode in series with Your “fuse” setup to see how many amps it takes or even easier…get DC clamp meter. Good job anyway👍
@ADDAUTOMOBILESERVICES
@ADDAUTOMOBILESERVICES Жыл бұрын
Miss the legend
@shamessun
@shamessun Жыл бұрын
Thank you pin hollow . Thank you kieth
@andersonchimukono8498
@andersonchimukono8498 3 ай бұрын
Great job ❤❤
@floro7130
@floro7130 Жыл бұрын
I would also like to see the result (replacing the ecu and starting it) .... because I wonder if it is not the electromotor of the hydraulic pump of the gearbox that is short-circuited and the ecu has nothing broken (if the gearbox is robotic)
@michael9515
@michael9515 Жыл бұрын
Magnetti Marelli does standardised electronics for motoGP. All bikes same ECU-s from them. So they are really big 👌
@xerxes456
@xerxes456 Жыл бұрын
It would be a dream to have 2 of you on my driveway to diagnose a car
@petepeabody8905
@petepeabody8905 Жыл бұрын
keith good to see you both at work
@mandymoo7406
@mandymoo7406 Жыл бұрын
got to say it was all pointing to a standard earthing issue at first but then it wasnt,when i worked on fiats i found quite a few suffered from water ingress of the body computers and back then they were actually in the car
@jerryking2418
@jerryking2418 Жыл бұрын
Great job guys. Thanks for sharing.
@bluejayoutpost9170
@bluejayoutpost9170 Жыл бұрын
As soon as you said I may just hold the camera I just knew better lol. Everyone in the comments your cool too. Nice read! sure miss Keith~way to go Happy travels home and Happy Thanksgiving
@caduceus33
@caduceus33 Жыл бұрын
I recall from many, many months ago that Keith was planning to begin working on cars on the side. So I guess that did not happen?
@ojmbvids
@ojmbvids Жыл бұрын
That snap-on diag tool seems way too underpowered for the software. The thinktool looks much more responsive.
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 Жыл бұрын
Overpriced like most of their stuff
@scientist100
@scientist100 Жыл бұрын
Not even a topology map which is crucial for on the glance diagnosis.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. Жыл бұрын
Ivan was fired up, laying down that sweet PHAD sarcasm: "..too bad it's an automatic, I don't know who buys one of these that's automatic." and "Does it do a health report like any modern scanner?" and "..because it has to translate from Italian, to Chinese, to English" and "..that's pretty high mileage for a Fiat, right Keith?" Well done Dynamic Duo!
@Netherlands031
@Netherlands031 Жыл бұрын
I don't get the diagnosis - there was a big short, ECM and TCM not communicating, then we checked powers and grounds, conclusion: new engine computer? Why didn't we check for the location of the short, with a current clamp?
@AP9311
@AP9311 Жыл бұрын
Is great video to see Keith on here Anna helping and figuring it out the issues with that fiat 500, lol. That car should go junk yard. Lol. Too many gremlins lol. Great video, Ivan!
@rrmodsrrmods6239
@rrmodsrrmods6239 Жыл бұрын
I was told by my Italian born and fiat owning customer that it Fiat means. Fix it again tomorrow!
@billziegmond4943
@billziegmond4943 Жыл бұрын
WOW I thought Keith was turning into Howard Hughes becoming a recluse. Wish I could have been their.
@Dave-ei7kk
@Dave-ei7kk Жыл бұрын
My first car was a Fiat 124 Sport Coupe. Fun to drive but I was in college and I had to sell it at 36,000 miles because I couldn’t afford to keep repairing it. Replaced it with a ‘69 Pontiac Grand Prix with 48,000 miles and still under the 50,000 mile warranty. You were close on the acronym but it’s actually FIAT = Fix It Again Tomorrow.
@stigonutube
@stigonutube Жыл бұрын
Heya Keith and Ivan, Keith brings da big guns diag tools LOL thinktool pros held it's own Though..Good diag thorough checks of the basics powers and grounds+relays
@daveunbranded
@daveunbranded Жыл бұрын
The name of the service center he came from is on the right side on the bottom page. But they actually did decent work.no reason to crap on them.
@aleskyfinis1025
@aleskyfinis1025 Жыл бұрын
Try to do more diagnosing the Keith that’s great
@davidk7324
@davidk7324 Жыл бұрын
"I don't know who buys one of these in automatic." Maybe the owner standing next to you?😁
@ablackformula
@ablackformula Жыл бұрын
I was expecting to see some sort of 5v ref checks, and then was hoping to see the pcm plugged in and to manually close the asd relay. Maybe the pcm just lost that one output which you could "no parts required" fix
@robbflynn4325
@robbflynn4325 Жыл бұрын
Great diagnosis, Keith seems a bit rusty but 2 years is a long time to be out of the game. I may need you to look at my son's 2003 Accord, it's running rough. Will be traveling up from Florida next week back home to Everett, hope I can fix but if not will be in contact- I assume you'll be free on Thanksgiving Day ? 🦃 😉 😂.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Keith never gets rusty 😉
@FixItPhillip
@FixItPhillip Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that the 5v reference signal could be shorted causing the pcm to have no com? I know on toyotas that happens, pcm goes into a no com state when 5v ref is shorted to ground. What do you think brotha
@r.weaver3769
@r.weaver3769 Жыл бұрын
My 98 Harley Davidson has Magneti Marelli engine EFI, I think they ran those from 1996 to 2000.
@gaad7938
@gaad7938 Жыл бұрын
Magneti Marelli used to supply ECM's to Ferrari for use in their F1 cars. Today I believe all ECMs are standardized in F1.
@chriscochran8079
@chriscochran8079 Жыл бұрын
Love you guys busting each other’s balls 😂
@arielatom03
@arielatom03 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to manually turn on the asd relay with the ecm plugged in and see if maybe com was restored.
@robertmccully2792
@robertmccully2792 Жыл бұрын
So much for letting Keith do the talking like you said you would.
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