Hi Jon, first of all thanks for your kind words. And yes: even at our age (I think we are both from '64) it's still a wonderful adventure to chase new sounds! Or in the words of one of my followers: it doesn't get any nerdier :-) Thanks for the new insight about recording the Moog solo - I will have a go at it using one of these Universal Audio studio plug ins - where you can 'place' the sound in a studio setting - sending the Moog through an amp - to move some air (great expression). Somebody was wondering how you know all about the intro - I assume that you had access to original Multi track recording - giving you direct insight of what was going on. Last but not least: have a look at the other comments: keyboardplayers /fans of PF really enjoy this 'quest for the holy keyboard grail' - and I am grateful that you helped us on this collective journey. Warm regards from Jose.

Excellent point about using amps and "moving air". Things were considerably different back then and I often advise people to check out the "Classic Albums" DVDs to see how things were done. For me, Lewisohn's book on the Beatles sessions was an eye-opener on how they used 4-track recorders compared to my approach which was post-Mike Oldfield. I was working with a quarter of a 16-track but the Beatles were working with four times as many tracks as a mono tape deck - a very different perspective!

@@unclemick-synths I did a quick test - not with a real amp in a studio - but with the Capitol chambers plug in - sending the Mini through an Amp and mics at the other side of the room. The effect is impressive - it creates space around the sound and the delay behaves differently. No need for additional reverb.

@@josesvintagekeys cool 👍

@@josesvintagekeys with a drum machine or samples I usually add a touch of room reverb on the buss - it only takes a little and it makes the sounds into a drum kit. I guess it's like adding a room mic to a real kit. I ought to try it with other sounds.

Well said. We all journey together.

Txxs - you can imagine that i was taken 'off guard' after receiving Jon's feedback - but indeed: that was very kind of him

Jon is one of the most modest people in music, knew him well from 1979-85…He was a wizard at 15!

I was thinking: why would a famous musician like @joncarin6759 take the time to react to my video - and on top of it all: the additional questions, The answer is probably quite simple: he is musician - just like us and a nice guy. I could imagine that in the beginning he felt overwhelmed by the famous artists he worked with and came to the same conclusion: they love music - they are nice and the also love to share they own experience finding new sounds and songs. At the same time: it’s still pretty special :-)

@@josesvintagekeys because he is a wonderful person with infinite passion for what he does

Txxs for your kind reply Thomas - and indeed : great that Jon came out to help. In case of Vangelis….hardly no mistake possible: always CS80 :-)))))

txxsss!!

I understand - the Hammond was clearly mentioned in the book - and I read on the internet the story about the Taurus….and it sounded soooo convincing

I was als convinced it was right…. fooling myself ;-)

it doesn’t get any nerdier than this - fully agree!!

i’ll ask my new friend Jon ;-))

Excellent analysis and great solution!

Obviously it's about the sound/music and not about the instruments - but like somebody in the comments said: we like to get Nerdy. Glad you liked it - both versions :-)

agree: the wine glasses are impressive

From now on: at the shop Me: I'm looking for some nice wine glasses. Assistant: What kind of glasses do you have in mind, sir? Me: G minor glasses, please.@@josesvintagekeys

I think you are spot on and I will check the demo versions!

wath about the Farfisa in the intro of Dogs?

@@robertomarconi7342 Yes, you are absolutely correct 😊, I'm not not an expert on this subject, have just been a big Pink Floyd fan since 1992 and have read a lot of stuff about their instruments😉. I totally forgot about that intro on Dogs (how could I forget that? ;) ), that could certainly be Ricks Farfisa Compact Duo.

@@josesvintagekeys Thank you! I'm not an expert, just a big Pink Floyd fan and still researching information myself :) Keep up your excellent work! Here's one link to Shine On alternative demo outtake: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e7d-nd2SudKxgqM.htmlsi=aIgLSsv__Kz6krfx

Tapping glasses?

I think it’s a Kurzweil K2000/2500 their goto synth at the time

Carin has only been part of the Floyd scene for 30 years - WYWH is 50 years old. Yes, he might not want to divulge the "secret" - and he also might not really know.

@@mickeythompson9537 hi it’s been 39 years and I’ve spent most of my adult life listening to the original master tapes. It’s a very beautiful combination of elements. Perfect in its simplicity.

The intro also uses the Mini - Musical Director Jon Carin even commented on the use of reverb: in his comment on the video he explains that the Mini was recorded through an amp/speaker - creating a natural reverb and ‘moving air’ (his words). The EMS was probly used in the bass sound and sfx. An EMS can;t simply create the horn sound of the Mini - check out some video’s on the EMS and you will find out it sounds completely different.

that sounds logical!

correct - as of the live tours in ‘87 they used K250 and later K2000 - K2500.

Carin was pretty clear about it - no Hammond/Farfisa or any other Hammond like instrument - the Wine glasses are the most important in creating the sound

​@@josesvintagekeys is a mellotron a keyboard. It only plays pre=recorded sounds. You are the expert, I'm just asking questions. Loved the vid by the way

Maybe it only looks like a keyboard as a dupe, a trick.

@@glennbrock6560 well, the real xpert is Carin - he had access to the original Multitrack. I love the Mellotron - synth? keboard? semantics - but I can say it was not used. Great you enjoyed the video - that really counts :-))))

we now know from Jon Carin that they did not use the Taurus 🙄

check the wine glasses video - even the change to Dmin ( if I am correct) is part of the arrangement. I only think the could not take it a step further - so the used as basis for ‘ real’ instruments in the final song

I thought so too - as a cover it sounded great - but the intention was to use exactly the same instruments as PF 😓

Shine on is on Wish you were here from 1975...so it could have been the Taurus 🙂

@@josesvintagekeys ahhhh….. of course! My bad 😅

it’s just a nice hobby :-)

Because you can learn things during the process of figuring out how they did it.

Because you can learn things during the process of figuring out how they did it.

Because you can learn things during the process of figuring out how they did it.

What if you wanna play on your own instrument at home with perfect rendition?