If you're a woman who has had an abortion, know that you are loved by the Father. That his mercy in infinite and available to you. Here's a free booklet that will help: projectrachelboston.com/documents/2020/9/afterabortion.pdf

"Men do not differ much about what things they will call evils. But they differ enormously about what evils they will call 'excusable'." --G.K. Chesterton

The logical conclusion to JP's position is to say that murder may be evil, but it should be legal because making it illegal would go against liberty.

How do evil and freedom go together? Real freedom isn't freedom to sin.

Having a child made me pro-life as well. I watched my child grow from the size of a bean into a child. Just because it doesn't look like a child now doesn't make it still a person

I applaud JP’s willingness to voice a viewpoint that he must know Matt’s audience would disagree with. It’s a completely nonsensical position, however. We wouldn’t apply that logic to any other horrendous crime. We don’t tell rapists that it’s evil but we respect their right to do it. We also wouldn’t say the same to a mother who murders her two year old. He’s applying the law unequally, which tells me that he doesn’t view unborn life as being on same level as the life of a two year old, for instance.

I think JP will come around eventually. He used to be a liberal and pro abortion, now he’s conservative and changed his view on abortion. I think he’s a smart enough guy that he’ll realize this contradiction in his position and hopefully someday soon he’ll be fully pro life, as in supporting legal protection for the unborn.

JP didn’t address his flaw in the contradiction “ I think it’s wrong and murder but I think they should have the feeedom to choose to commit murder”.

Freedom is choosing what is objectively good, only then you are truly free. Choosing an objective evil is an abuse of freedom.

I love it when yall have on people that don't 100% agree on the same thing. DONT GET COMFORTABLE PEOPLE! We're not in heaven yet; we gotta spread truth. Love JP and so excited for the full episode.

Disappointing that he can't see how it doesn't make sense to say that something is evil but should still be legal because "freedom". Fingers crossed, he will get there in the end.

I stopped paying attention to JP when I learned his stance on abortion which is basically "its murder, but freedom is the real god, so do what you want"

I changed my mind on abortion when a few of my friends got their girlfriends pregnant,these kids were prime candidates to be aborted....These guys could barely take care of themselves but got married had the kids, took on a second job.....eventually divorced, but the kids were born and they were good kids....hopefully they are all doing well today.

“‘There is no right to do wrong.” (A. Lincoln, Lincoln-Douglas Debates) That’s JP’s answer to his conundrum. People cannot have a right to do that which is wrong.

The freedom argument is really silly. I have the freedom to walk where I want, so long as I am not impeding on someone else's freedom. I cannot walk onto JPs property without permission. I cannot tell JP he is taking away my freedom by stopping me from trespassing. It is not freedom to kill a baby

Back in the day, the way I understood "my body my choice" was in reference to what the woman's body would go through during pregnancy and childbirth. The pain of childbirth is no joke. My first child felt like I was being tortured because he was face up and his head was pressing on my spine. Demerol did absolutely nothing for the pain and it went on for 8 hours. My second child came very quickly, and I gave birth in the ER without any medication, but my placenta didn't come out so the doctor after all that childbirth pain, looked me in the eye and said "Ok, this is going to hurt!" then he reached inside and ripped it out. If he hadn't done that, I would have hemorrhaged to death. BTW, both of my sons were wanted. I do think abortion is evil in most cases but at the same time, it seems strange to me to force a person to give birth. Especially if they are very young. Either way it's a terrible situation.

Weird take but ok. Good that he's evolving though, he'll probably get there eventually.

JP is awesome, love his videos and satire. It’s funny everyone who is for abortion is already alive

The final straw that put me on the "absolutely 100% against" (I used to fall for the "What about 'Rp" cases" argument") is actually reading the medical definition. I had listened to someone who was explaining the actual definition and pointing out that it mandated the goal be to end the life of the baby in every instance. If the baby is being medically removed with the intent to save its life or if it dies on accident it isn't an abortion. So, even in horrible cases where the mother is put in a predicament against her will I'm not really against removing the baby but the goal should be to remove it and do everything possible to help both live. Even in circumstances where the baby is "threatening the mothers life" if there is an operation with a lottery winners chance that the baby can be pulled out and put on life support to free the mothers body from the medical threat that's the better option. In that hypothetical many of the younger babies may not survive due to medical complications but that is just a consequence of complicated medical procedure. There would never be an abortion again in the medical field and women would still have an option to remove the baby. The intent simply has to be to save both lives.

It’s called moral courage to completely follow through on one’s belief….

In these Logic every kind of murder can be justify

Justify this commitment to liberty to such an extent that you believe people should be free to commit acts of pure evil lol

The way I see it is the freedom of the unborn child. Once a mother is hosting a baby at whatever stage she is no longer free to end that life.

Can’t wait for the whole video!

What an absolutely insane reason. Felt some magic now I know good and evil.

Yes if it's evil, it should be illegal

Yep, I was sorta like him too. You have your own you grow up.

One of the big problem with JP's position is that by giving this freedom to choose to women, you also annihilate entirely any freedom whatsoever to another group of human beings. Whatever the reason behind wanting an abortion, it will always be a better solution than killing an innocent human being.

This was posted 4 months ago and JP still does NOT understand the arguments presented by the different groups!! Though I voted "for" abortion in 1972, after a few decades of life experiences "I have learned, I have come to realize" abortion or what really is getting pregnant, is NOT about RIGHTS but is about being RESPONSIBLE". Why is it NO ONE wants to talk about what it means to be a "responsible human being anymore!!

So, in the name of “freedom“ obviously, JP thinks rape, child, molestation and murder have to be legal, and then we can just let god sort it out? For someone who thinks logically often that argument is incoherent.

From this conversation it doesn't seem like he's changed his mind.

Going through abortion is not easy. If you did or your going to, just know that the little soul who chose you is fine, and that there is unconditional love between you and this soul. That you can experience the love of this little soul anytime, and that you are just a portal for this soul to come from the divine to earth. That you can choose to be that portal or say no, with love. Haters and can judge and fear all they like, this is the power of a woman to choose. JP Sears, please go deeper in your reflections before using your voice.. 🙏🏼 bless you

Unless I'm completely misunderstanding this, he's basically saying, "Abortion is a horrendous evil, but I still think it should be legal." If that is what he is saying, I hope this guy's Protestant, but I wouldn't think I would have to explain this even to a Protestant. Yes, not all moral evils should be illegal. Nine-year-olds might shirk school or chores, which is wrong, but I don't think they should go to prison. However, even from a libertarian perspective, it goes against the "anti-aggression principle" (I don't agree with that principle, but I'm going by the loosest example possible outside of anarchy). By this "freedom" to end a child's life, you are denying a child's right to live. As a nation founded on life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (in that order), there is no "right" to an abortion, or else we would also have to legalize infanticide and the systematic murder of all the mentally or intellectually handicapped.

The fact that JP said that abortion is evil, but that he believes in liberty, and that women should have the right to choose implies, to me that he is libertarian. The hint is when he mentioned, “group think conservatives.” If one looks up the definition of libertarian, it says, “relating to or denoting a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens.” Notice no state interference in the private lives of citizens. True Christians believe that abortion should be outlawed, but libertarians believe in complete liberty and free will and think that citizens, not the government, should have the right to choose their destiny. Not saying it’s right, but there it is.

He has a long way to go but has taken the big leap and I am happy that he is open about his beliefs :) I can see this taking shape in his life and God is doing wonderful things through him!

That’s amazing growth to see somebody become aware of this and admit publicly he has changed his mind. I hope he keeps wondering about how those ideas for together and ultimately refines his understanding of freedom/liberty.

Actually heartbreaking to see Thought I was watching something from 2020 I thought we were past this and being made to bring our worldview to its logical conclusion. Freedom is not an end in and of itself watch some Michael Knowles

If something is evil then there ought not be any freedom to commit it since the value of human life, the inherent dignity of human life, is something that "freedom of choice" presupposes. Hence, the right of every human being to live, including the pre-born child, precedes the right to freedom, especially in the case of abortion where two human lives are involved - not only one.

JP actually made a video about abortion before he had a kid that caused me to unsubscribe but I’ve seen him grow immensely since having a baby. Very cool.

So he thinks freedom means you should be allowed to do anything you want? I assumed advocating for maximal libertarian freedom would be advocating for being able to do anything you want so long as it doesn't affect someone else's freedom, but apparently not. Surely by his logic, the government could use their freedom to take away all of our freedom! Ridiculous logic. Really, the truth is that we should have the freedom to do whatever we like that is morally right.

"its inherently evil, but, you should have the right".......sorry, that does not cut it

Would he take "freedom" point of view on any other grave moral issue. Freedom is not a virtue in and of itself. And freedom can become slavery very easily.

Hey Matt. Great video. Asking for prayers as I went through something traumatic almost two years ago when my ex was caught with the kiddie p***. And had issues with the adult kind as well. Need advice on how to use what I went through to inspire others.

I also agree with JP, it's up to the woman to decide whether she is going to murder her child or give him/her life. They'll get consequences for their deeds lately.

I think JP is on his way to embracing full pro-life doctrine of protecting the innocent.

So I can see that it is pretty easy to ridicule JP's position here as untenable, but the explanation is pretty simple. He sees liberty as the highest good, and other goods are subordinate to it, such as the right to life. To some extent it makes sense: for example, you could otherwise make a utilitarian argument for robbing a rich person in order to help many poor people stave off hunger. I would posit though that life is much messier than that, and you can't always put goods into a clear hierarchy as it inevitably leads to contradictions. You have to be willing to make judgments and take the heat for supposed "hypocrisy". In the case of abortion the life of the unborn is clearly and obviously more important than the liberty "lost" by the parent.

We own a rooster who has a bad habit of chasing foxes so we keep him safe so he doesn't hurt himself. Yet, "Nugget" the rooster has more common sense and intelligence than this hippie. In the old days, they used to call people like him simpletons. Family members loved them, but they would never allow them to speak publicly ^^^ for this exact reason or shall I say anti-reason? 😕

Love J.P. and praying for J.P.'s continued change. He's come so far . . . still got farther to go, though. I believe he'll convert eventually. If he stays open and seeks the Truth, he won't miss it. J.P. there is no freedom to do evil. True freedom is to be able to do good. Doing evil is slavery. Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin." John 8:34 For freedom Christ has set us free. Stand firm, therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Galatians 5:1

This is just another reason we should encourage marriage and more and earlier procreation. Before my marriage and the birth of my first son I was just floating.

AMEN!

There's so many people being killed, why? Because their being told that life has no value! Do you value life? Give the baby a chance. Do to others as you would have them do to you. Matthew 7:12 If the tables were turned would it have been okay for your baby to abort you? Instead repent/believe in God's son Jesus, he loves you and can change your heart.

So it's ALWAYS wrong to kill an innocent human? Really? In Texas some years ago, a young man was killed because he was in someone's yard and didn't understand the word "freeze". The homeowner shot and killed him. But he was innocent! Did the homeowner go to jail? No! Why not? Because he felt threatened. He was able to take an innocent life because he did not know if the young man would harm him. Abortion laws say that you must be on the verge of death before you can get an abortion to save your life. But all fetuses are a threat. They do kill and maim. If we used the same criteria as the homeowner, abortions would be legal. If someone is on your property or in your body, and poses a possible threat, you have the right to remove them. Do not say "but you invited them in". If you were using birth control, you did not invite them! Another example: If your brain doesn't work, you are declared "brain dead" even if your heart can still pump and the rest of your body is alive. But you are still an innocent human being! So if it is illegal to kill a brainless human embryo, why isn't illegal to kill a brainless grown human?

Hmm, JP's view is at least... confusing, to call it lightly. Hard to understand it differently than "even if an action is evil, it should be allowed (meaning: legal, not prosecuted?), because it's a free act". In such case, law would be completely pointless, and it would mean that only these, who are strong enough, could defend themselves, and weak would perish. I assume this opinion is about law, because outside of some regulations we could prevent an action only by incapacitating or immobilizing someone, "just in case", and I think it's obviously absurd. Even with law prohibiting murder, one can still in his/her freedom trespass it and commit a murder - but has to deal with the consequences from the society (or flee from it). I agree that freedom is a great value, and it's universal - we can't put an evil-doer's freedom above victim's freedom, and evil acts directly or indirectly hinder victim's freedom. I think John Paul II summed it nicely: freedom of a person ends where it meets another person's freedom.

"It's evil but it should be legal" Should cannibalism be legal JP? Should murdering a stranger on the street be legal JP? Why should abortion be legal but other kinds of murder not?

People could just be more cautious and careful in their sexual behaviour, and have the honour and decency to step up and take responsibility for the results of their own choices and actions.

God did give us freedom to choose evil. That doesn't make evil good though. Anyway, hopefully he thinks about what you said. Step by step. I voted to legalise it in my country when I was an atheist, Lord have mercy.

So, by this logic should all murder be legal?

Ok guest seems to be back peddling on I still think it should be legal????? 😬

God bless you

We have free will......yes.....but we will not be free from the consequences of murder. Murder is not a freedom or right to choose.......it is a sin that we commit. If man makes it lawful to murder......it is still murder in God's eyes.

Can’t have it both ways. WWJD?

👍 JP

I've came to the crossroads of abortion in my life. While I don't judge women who have had an abortion unless it's used often as a form of birth control. I've known women who do that. I believe in it in the cases of rape and endangerment of the mothers life. I've seen very scared young girls at the hospital for an abortion. And I get it. They are terrified either way. I didn't allow my ex to push me into the procedure. And I'm very happy for it. But for many young women who think that abortion is the answer to your problems, please rethink it. You will have to live with that decision (emotionally) for the rest of your life. And then there's the physical complications. One of the girls I worked with at the hospital had an abortion when she was young. She had a very hard time conceiving and had lost at least five children. It was all due to complications of the abortion. She almost died each time she was pregnant. And don't think that she didn't think about and grieve that child she aborted. It stayed with her the rest of her life. There are emotional consequences that they don't tell women about.

So some forms of murder should be legal? That is what JP is saying. I appreciate JP for what he does, but I do think he has more reflection to do on this area. If he truly believes that human equality exists and that it applies to the pre-born child (which he seems to) then what about the fetus's freedom to grow up? If it is about bodily autonomy, what about the pre-born child's own bodily autonomy? Don't they have a right to bodily integrity and to be protected from instruments that dismember them? I think some people think abortion is just "not helping" and thus within one's freedom to do. "Oh I'm just not using my body to help this little human". However, doing an abortion is not like "not donating an organ". It is more like going to sick person and instead of not giving an organ you stab them to death! Abortion is not "not helping" it is killing and the vast majority of abortions are very direct and intentional acts of killing. Can you kill a child who wanders into your home? No. Can you abandon, nevermind kill a lost child you find on a hike in the forest? No. Your duty in both cases is at minimum to not kill, but almost surely to provide care for those children until you can safely transfer care to another adult. In the case of pregnancy that transfer of care would be after birth. The lives of born children take precedent over our wants, our convenience, and sometimes even our bodies (ask the African mom who has to walk 10 miles a day to get water for her kids. Can she just refuse to do such arduous labor because "my body"? No!). That same priority of the right to life we extend to born children should apply to pre-born children, equally.

Freedom is not lawlessness

It's funny that people keep refering what's inside a pregnant woman as "baby". If it's a baby, a tiny, defenceless human being, and you kill them what does it make you? A pro "choice" or a pro MURDER?

Used to think that guy was funny. I hate it when people get super political after building a platform. The only people who are going to think he's funny now are people who just agree with him, just because you think something is right or wrong doesnt make it true for everyone.

Fetus is Latin for small person.

What about in circumstances where the woman was raped? She should be forced to carry and give birth to her rapists baby??

Here's the crux: There is no liberty if there's no life. A true libertarian must oppose abortion at all costs to promote and preserve liberty. Besides, abortion violates the Non-Aggression Principle (NAP).

Release the stream to youtube please

Hot take, JP’s new position is actually worse than just being totally pro-choice. His attempt at a middle ground position is honestly inconsistent and incoherent. Sorry not sorry

Wow, Imagine if all pro lifers just said they believe abortion is wrong or a sin and whatever. But just understood that its the right of a woman to decide if she has one or not. Then just left it at that. thats a pro life stand i could get totally behind.

I guess this is the only time i've ever disagreed with you on something. You say here in the video that the moms should be prosecuted for having an abortion. I think it should be made illegal but the doctors and clinics prosecuted because sometimes sixteen year olds or Those being trafficked arent fully aware of what they are doing. Being jailed won't help those young women.

This guest says abortion is murder but it’s up to others to make their own choice!!!! So he’s ok with others murdering innocent human beings. Did St. Paul say he’s ok with murdering innocent human beings? Or how about God? 5th commandment Thou shalt not kill. So this guest doesn’t believe in the Ten Commandments. Matt, can you please straighten this guy out?

Hopefully your guest is a work in progress... Hopefully, he will come to the same conclusion as Matt, which is: A human being is a human being is a human being. If it is wrong to kill a human being, circumstance is not relevant. Always wrong. Society has given the name of "the act of killing a human being": "murder." Killing a baby in the womb is the moral equivalent of killing a baby outside the womb (the womb being a minor detail, which it is, since the status of the "life" (a verifiable fact) either way is "human", i.e. made in God's image and likeness). Murder being a very grave social and moral ill, should not be made legal "depending on circumstance". Prayers for your guest to arrive at that natural and logical position (especially since he has influence, since he has followers).

Thats great that you felt that way. But what if we force peooke that dont want a chikd to have that childm shouldnt we also be concerned what that childs life will look like? Or they can be given to adoption agnecies and they wikk gove it to gay couples. I mean. Im not pro or against, itd its just my reasonining

I disagree with the guest and I'm definitely pro life but to be fair to his argument, I think most of us would agree that simply being immoral or hurting ppl shouldn't always define what is legal and illegal. For example homosexual acts and infidelity are both immoral and the latter certainly harms people grievously, you might go so far as to say they're evil actions, but most of us think that the GOVERNMENT shouldn't punish ppl for committing them. Why is abortion different? Thoughts?

Your choice your opinion the anti abortion is evil

Just wondering, but was this guy serious about "men who are pregnant" or did he say that as a joke?

Wait is JP going Catholic??

I am just guessing this will be a funny interview, for some reason....

A fetus may be a human being, but so is the woman who's life and very flesh, metabolism, even longevity and future fertility is unpredictably altered if not hobbled by carrying to term. The societal cost of allowing the government to force the unwilling to become mothers is high enough to be self-defeating; if you devote finite resources to prosecute doctors and invade the medical privacy of women seeking to terminate illegally, further ruining the already hard-knock life of the resulting infant, short-staffing hospitals/ob-gyn clinics, literally breeding mental illness into poorer communities, while breeding-out parental inclinations, you compound the problem while exhausting said resources. Kind of like the War On Drugs, it's tyranny in the name of futility; evils nearly as great as the taking of human life, are proliferated through trying to force every last would-be human life to begin at the cost of people's bodily autonomy. Criminal law is simply not the tool for this job. That said, late term abortions and the commodification of aborted fetal tissue are the greater evil and urgently need to be stopped. A broader culture that generally frowns upon abortion doesn't necessarily have to derive from litigation altogether banning it, but won't necessarily arise from it either. A self-perpetuating criminal underclass will. At one level or other, a grim compromise seems to be unavoidable on this issue no matter what.

There is no brain first 2 months