How to Compute Takeoff, Spool, Center to Center 90, 45 Degrees Elbow Pipefitter

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@mlbbmix3346
@mlbbmix3346 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@davidtorrez8460
@davidtorrez8460 6 жыл бұрын
The take off of an eight inch pipe is 5 inches on a 45° elbow. Therefore you multiply that by two and u subtract that by the travel. That gives you the spool size. Also in pipe fitting dont forget to subtract your 1/8 gaps for the welding.
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 6 жыл бұрын
Yes ! 3.175 mm
@abdulkadir938
@abdulkadir938 7 жыл бұрын
thank you Mr . Philipino .
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 7 жыл бұрын
Your Welcome!
@garciam.r6034
@garciam.r6034 7 жыл бұрын
thank you sir. more power.
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 7 жыл бұрын
thank you
@htownlifestyle
@htownlifestyle 7 жыл бұрын
8 is the diameter pipe. Take half of 8, then half of 4, then half of 2, which is 1. Take the 2nd and 4th number which equals 5. That's in inches. Convert to mm and you have 127mm. There are two sides so 127 times 2= 254mm. 707mm - 254mm = 453mm. Explaining how you get these answers helps people, otherwise they are stuck in confusion. The video helped, but there were things i had to figure on my own that you didn't point out. Thanks.
@davidtorrez8460
@davidtorrez8460 6 жыл бұрын
Pat Henry or just multiply 8 in. By 5/8 and u can get the same answer it's just a little simpler
@junaidkahnn69
@junaidkahnn69 5 жыл бұрын
is 90 degree elbow calculation is right can u elaborate.
@leroyjetson2329
@leroyjetson2329 5 жыл бұрын
So the 3500-3000 ELV he has is that in mm? Should I convert the ELV over to inches?
@derekhead8180
@derekhead8180 5 жыл бұрын
@@junaidkahnn69 no its wrong
@miketraballo5252
@miketraballo5252 3 жыл бұрын
How about the welding gap why you dont .mention the gap it may be wrong or the spool must be longer,remember 3mm×2(both weld)must be result to failed of the spool computaions..just only asking sir..correct me if im wrong pls...
@leshaunnash9875
@leshaunnash9875 7 жыл бұрын
Also, if the elevation from center to center is 500 on your two 90s, how is it that you only need 109.6 of pipe to tie the two pieces in? What happened to the the other 491? If a takeout for a 90 is 1.5 x Pipe Size... then the take out for an 8 inch pipe should be 12 right? And 24 if you add the other.... Are we doing a different computation here?
@ajgaraliali2175
@ajgaraliali2175 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@arbheagulo8430
@arbheagulo8430 7 жыл бұрын
how could it be that the sum of the two take offs on example #2 be longer than the whole pipe itself? maybe next time you may consider including the units.
@kennethmelnychuk9737
@kennethmelnychuk9737 3 жыл бұрын
Remember to factor in the 2 gaps (3.17mm X 2, typical) when calculating the pup length or you’re gonna have to shim the elevated run 😊😁
@shabualam2584
@shabualam2584 5 жыл бұрын
I want to know how make offset of 300mm cable tray
@reymarcasinao7694
@reymarcasinao7694 5 жыл бұрын
You should include the two welding gap from elbow to pipe,its 3 mm each gap,multiply by 2, from two joints. Best regards from aboitiz construction com. KAUBAN fitter.
@geoffreysanga6487
@geoffreysanga6487 4 жыл бұрын
Nalito rin ako.. ang alam ko kasi SPL=Tr-TO1-TO2-WG..
@kennethmelnychuk9737
@kennethmelnychuk9737 3 жыл бұрын
Just elevate the supports that are under the higher elevation run by 6.4mm & you will be fine or shim it by that amount 😃
@michaelhealy7715
@michaelhealy7715 Жыл бұрын
Hey does this work on dairy sanitary pipe Aswell as schedule as sizes are different????
@NoelObot-tw9gb
@NoelObot-tw9gb 10 ай бұрын
Is the elbows long radius or short radius?
@domingopupo4371
@domingopupo4371 5 жыл бұрын
The difference in between the length, you have to divide 2 and cut each 90*, 54.8mm the center off the 90*
@philipmathew3311
@philipmathew3311 4 жыл бұрын
90 degree 2 elbow centre you need to minus from 500 (2500 minus 2000) is it right / you need at least 1000 mm difference if you need a spool piece in between then u get a spool piece bro
@sureshkumarjena1285
@sureshkumarjena1285 7 жыл бұрын
the dimensions for 90° elbow are wrong... how could be that possible ?
@leshaunnash9875
@leshaunnash9875 7 жыл бұрын
How is the takeout on an 8" inch pipe 15.8 for a 45 degree angle? Aren't you supposed to multiply 8"inches by .625 or 5/8?
@boyunsamana
@boyunsamana 5 жыл бұрын
its the same bro... for inches it is correct that 5/8 or .625 multiply by 8" pipe diameter.then multiply by 2 elbow. for milimeter or mm it is 15.8 mm multiply by 8" pipe multiply by 2 elbow. depends on what you are using. inches or mm
@iluminadojrnaputo8005
@iluminadojrnaputo8005 7 жыл бұрын
exercise number 2 i think their is something wrong on your answer.. how it happen that 609.8mm (2ea 90 deg elbow) is longer than center to center with is only 500mm base on your given EL 2500 and EL 2000 and your cutting lengt is 109.6mm
@enoughMAD
@enoughMAD 2 жыл бұрын
additional...u did not give what kind of elbow you've given???
@marlexacuesta6086
@marlexacuesta6086 5 жыл бұрын
where is the gap b/w the pipe and elbow..so must subtract it to 3 mm gap
@marvingalamiton6883
@marvingalamiton6883 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get 1414?
@subinnibus3834
@subinnibus3834 5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me sir. To find 45° spool you multiply 1.414 And to find 90° spool not multiply 1.414 Why sir please tell me
@bryann1983
@bryann1983 5 жыл бұрын
Sir, is that mm? if so, I think there is something on the last one, 500 elevation is not enough for the two 90 degree elbow with 8 inches diameter, 609.6mm for both take off plus 109.6mm spool length equals 719.2 mm total length. correct me if i am wrong.
@derekhead8180
@derekhead8180 5 жыл бұрын
his maths showed the offset was to small by 109.6mm not the spool is 109.6 as he said
@saddaqatali1147
@saddaqatali1147 5 жыл бұрын
You are write.
@EmperorBlue12
@EmperorBlue12 Ай бұрын
Where did you get the 15.8? Thanks
@rowellnaungayan7139
@rowellnaungayan7139 3 жыл бұрын
Nice dami matututunan sir
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 3 жыл бұрын
your welcome
@sureshkumarjena1285
@sureshkumarjena1285 7 жыл бұрын
bt anyway u r really doing a great job.. thanks for all the valuable videos ... keep it up.
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@leacabasag5363
@leacabasag5363 2 жыл бұрын
45°LR is diameter of Pipe or size multiply by 15.875mm..
@huesaeka2591
@huesaeka2591 6 жыл бұрын
check again?
@markanthonybajao434
@markanthonybajao434 Жыл бұрын
sir what formula do you use?
@thota.murthy3028
@thota.murthy3028 4 жыл бұрын
what is the 1.414
@laoudifouad7365
@laoudifouad7365 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome
@luckyhitswertres62
@luckyhitswertres62 3 жыл бұрын
How to know the elevation???
@jeffdelacruz8622
@jeffdelacruz8622 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the 38.1 is it a formula?of 90 degrees?
@marlitoambungan9735
@marlitoambungan9735 2 жыл бұрын
1.5 inc X (diameter of pipe) X 25.4 = Take off
@joannesarcasitas
@joannesarcasitas Жыл бұрын
.625??? for 45° elbow
@prasadjayasinghe5746
@prasadjayasinghe5746 Жыл бұрын
we cant put two 90 elbows in 500mm distance
@FilipinoConstructionWorkers
@FilipinoConstructionWorkers 4 жыл бұрын
Ang twag sa spool na sinasabi mo ay cut piece or true length ng pipe. ang spool na tinatawag ay field weld to field weld na joint.
@richardsanchez2507
@richardsanchez2507 6 жыл бұрын
Hi im richard and i do topout plumbing and i always have a problem guarter inch per foot i know there is a pipe in a bathroom for a lavatory that needs a tee but you have to arm over 3 feet and stub out of the 2 by 4 wall with a 90 1" 1/2 pvc i know were the 90 elebow is measure back wards to get the slope correct
@richardsanchez2507
@richardsanchez2507 6 жыл бұрын
Quarter inch per foot
@richardsanchez2507
@richardsanchez2507 6 жыл бұрын
Can u call me 8326738393
@adrianalota8727
@adrianalota8727 3 жыл бұрын
Gd sir my question lng po ako kong ang elbow 45deg 6" ang raduis nya ay 690mm ano po yong tawag don long raduis or short raduis at ano gagamitin na formula don tanks sana masagot mo yan tanong ko tanks...
@CASH-TO-THE-MERE101
@CASH-TO-THE-MERE101 4 жыл бұрын
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@chhotelalyadav4613
@chhotelalyadav4613 4 жыл бұрын
Unclear what is this 1.414
@meleciopaasjr.2565
@meleciopaasjr.2565 5 жыл бұрын
i think 8 inch pipe diameter to be ( ) first by 0.625 inch then ( ) it by 25.4 mm = 127 mm= take off of one 45 degree elbow. please check if i am wrong.
@cecilioolivarez5717
@cecilioolivarez5717 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly i was doing this in feet which would be 5 in per 45.
@Jhonixcincosaints
@Jhonixcincosaints 2 жыл бұрын
sir hinde n po b inaalis ang gap?
@kikiamir5314
@kikiamir5314 Жыл бұрын
sory sir where does the number 1.414 come from
@giantoms5130
@giantoms5130 Жыл бұрын
Furmula yan
@ronniemorong9399
@ronniemorong9399 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the 1.414
@MrChankalai
@MrChankalai 5 жыл бұрын
square root 2
@joelopalacio513
@joelopalacio513 4 жыл бұрын
Constant yan.
@rexamolato1592
@rexamolato1592 6 жыл бұрын
you don't use welding gap???
@Yerla1983
@Yerla1983 6 жыл бұрын
Rex Amolato correct. He did not use welding gap. It is minimum 6 mm (from both side by 3 mm)
@jesrielonzagalapati2379
@jesrielonzagalapati2379 3 ай бұрын
What is the take off of 90° short radius 45° short radius
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre Ай бұрын
1.5 / .625
@radhikaharish2038
@radhikaharish2038 6 жыл бұрын
For accurate measurement and better solutions try downloading piping fabrication calculator-IPC 99 from google play store.
@derekhead8180
@derekhead8180 5 жыл бұрын
ha ha not all pipework is done in a mobile network location,, ie oil rigs so sometimes you need to know how to work things out youself
@KEIRSON08
@KEIRSON08 4 жыл бұрын
How do I know I'm multiply 1.141... how do I know ?
@gerardomuniz8076
@gerardomuniz8076 4 жыл бұрын
Only when you have 45° angles you multiply set or run by 1.414 to find travel
@ernestoaquinodocumentary4384
@ernestoaquinodocumentary4384 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the 1.414 and also what is that
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre Жыл бұрын
sine 45 deg.
@MrLeonardocgl
@MrLeonardocgl Жыл бұрын
√2 = 1.4142
@mercysetenta6870
@mercysetenta6870 3 жыл бұрын
How did you get the elevation 3500 and 3000
@luckyhitswertres62
@luckyhitswertres62 3 жыл бұрын
Same question..
@kennethmelnychuk9737
@kennethmelnychuk9737 3 жыл бұрын
They’re random numbers used for demonstration purposes
@renatoilagan5607
@renatoilagan5607 2 жыл бұрын
Yan po elevation ay given sa drawing
@charitybarry1539
@charitybarry1539 2 жыл бұрын
How come the 1.414 please explain. Thank u
@ohshucks7156
@ohshucks7156 2 жыл бұрын
Csquared equals 1.414 which is the square root of 2
@walfredosalafranca7776
@walfredosalafranca7776 4 жыл бұрын
Ang Dame mung bassh pre...
@reaganabelilla6824
@reaganabelilla6824 3 жыл бұрын
Wla n kasing spool 2
@reaganabelilla6824
@reaganabelilla6824 3 жыл бұрын
Wala n kasing spool 2nd question dahil negative n
@jhunniegupio9796
@jhunniegupio9796 2 жыл бұрын
Kailan po natin gagamiting ang 1.414???
@milesdelacruz883
@milesdelacruz883 5 жыл бұрын
Second one cannot be.. should add more length to elv.
@luckyhitswertres62
@luckyhitswertres62 3 жыл бұрын
What do you call those dotted line?
@kennethmelnychuk9737
@kennethmelnychuk9737 3 жыл бұрын
Phantom lines, as listed I’m your IPT manual 😁😊
@niculaegrosu8166
@niculaegrosu8166 4 жыл бұрын
radical 2=1,414. 25,4+12,7=38,1
@jiddhacornich3703
@jiddhacornich3703 7 жыл бұрын
i asking were do get sir 38.1
@khalixperez2876
@khalixperez2876 6 жыл бұрын
Jiddha Cornich 38.1 is the takeoff of 1" 90 degree.. . dia x 1.5 x 25.4
@syamkumargara7289
@syamkumargara7289 5 жыл бұрын
How u got the value 1.414. Please explain
@saddaqatali1147
@saddaqatali1147 5 жыл бұрын
Jahan 45° aur 45° elbow use ho wahan cl se cl measure ko 1.4142 ko zarab dete hain jitna jawab aye ga us mein se 2 elbow ko manfi kar lena aur 6 mm aur gap k liyie manfi kar Lena.jo baki bache ga utna pipe cut karna aur fit kar lena.yad rahe ye farmula siraf 45° elbow k lyie hy.ok bye
@DaljitSingh-em5ti
@DaljitSingh-em5ti 5 жыл бұрын
try by multiplying with 0.04 sir ji for 90 deg any size of cable tray trunking 50 mm height
@erizcantal7294
@erizcantal7294 4 жыл бұрын
Vvv
@michaelorr181
@michaelorr181 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it simple go and buy a blue book please
@jumarprieto8409
@jumarprieto8409 7 жыл бұрын
where did get 1.414 and 15.8
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 7 жыл бұрын
you can use 1.414 for 45 deg. and 15.8 takeoff 45 deg. elbow
@mbuetabueta5233
@mbuetabueta5233 3 жыл бұрын
Anung size po nang 45degree na pittings
@mikemullins3761
@mikemullins3761 3 жыл бұрын
Where did the 38.1 come from???
@kennethmelnychuk9737
@kennethmelnychuk9737 3 жыл бұрын
He’s mixing metric & SAE in his calculations; 38.1mm = 1.5”. Therefore the centreline calculation of a 90 degree, long radius elbow is: fitting diameter X 1.5 (8” dia. X 1.5 = 12”) OR. (203.2mm/8”” X 1.5 = 304.8mm/12”. I’m a Canadian Pipefitter & I use both systems on various job sites but I don’t mix them up like this. It’s always one system or the other, usually SAE but it’s easier to calculate the whole numbers for spool lengths in the metric system as opposed to fractions in the SAE (imperial) system. It can get really screwy if I start mixing & converting. I hope that this helps.
@fanznoize
@fanznoize 3 жыл бұрын
1,5 x 25,4 = 38.1
@popopabarico8460
@popopabarico8460 6 жыл бұрын
where did u get 15.8?
@friendcircle7654
@friendcircle7654 6 жыл бұрын
popop abarico 45digree elbow center is 15.8
@williamright4755
@williamright4755 6 жыл бұрын
This is incorrect If it is an 8in 45 elbow The take off is 5in
@davidtorrez8460
@davidtorrez8460 6 жыл бұрын
popop abarico the take off of an 8 in 45 ° elbow is 5 in. Idk where he is getting 15.8 from but that is incorrect
@boyunsamana
@boyunsamana 5 жыл бұрын
15.8 is the formula for 45 degree elbow. multiply to pipe size or diameter of pipe.then multiply by 2 because there are 2 elbow
@derekhead8180
@derekhead8180 5 жыл бұрын
the formula is pipesize x 5/8 ..15.8 is converted to metric 25.4. 1 inch, so 25.4 x 5/8 =15.875
@sureshkumarjena1285
@sureshkumarjena1285 7 жыл бұрын
bcoz the TO is 600 & the length from center to center is 500.
@fazankhan6967
@fazankhan6967 7 жыл бұрын
for example 90 degree elbow how found take off
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 7 жыл бұрын
38.1D=TO 90ell
@kaleemgujar4526
@kaleemgujar4526 5 жыл бұрын
What is the 1.414 please tell me
@Notmex1x
@Notmex1x 5 жыл бұрын
Cosecant of 45 (1.414 )
@luunguyenthe2348
@luunguyenthe2348 5 жыл бұрын
@@Notmex1x 1.414 due to √2
@narutoshipuden5633
@narutoshipuden5633 3 жыл бұрын
Sir ano ung 1.414
@jhunniegupio9796
@jhunniegupio9796 2 жыл бұрын
Hindi naba,i minos ang gap boss?
@ojh0319
@ojh0319 5 жыл бұрын
두번째 90엘보 틀린거 같네요 길이500보다 피팅길이가 더 크자나요
@ericheine2414
@ericheine2414 Жыл бұрын
Wrong especially the second one doesn't even make sense. The length of the pipe to connect the two 90s is going to be less than the center to Center measurement. 109.6 seems a little short. I mean it's not going to be 1/5 of 500,
@amiedimatulac7158
@amiedimatulac7158 10 ай бұрын
Additional thikness for 8" pipe
@melojanebendecio2795
@melojanebendecio2795 3 ай бұрын
He based it on the center of pipe. No thickness needed to be explained. He only show how to compute take off an how to get the pipe spool for 45 degree off set,run and travel.
@melaifajilan4621
@melaifajilan4621 4 жыл бұрын
Wla napo bawas ang gap
@mikieemiike3979
@mikieemiike3979 7 жыл бұрын
500mm=19.68in and 8in dia.X1.5=12in (take off). 24 in total take off from 19.68 inches doesn't make sense.
@akashooper
@akashooper 5 жыл бұрын
What is 38.1 in 90 degree take off?
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 5 жыл бұрын
Formula to find Takeoff. kzfaq.info?o=U&video_id=9Vs4HoXJ3NQ
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 5 жыл бұрын
Take off of 90 degree equals 38.1 SR
@derekhead8180
@derekhead8180 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mrjoelaguirre 38.1 is conversion to metric, the formula is 1.5 x pipe dia . conversion from inches to metric is multiply by 25.4 , so the 38.1 is 25.4 x 1.5
@user-jj2il7kx5z
@user-jj2il7kx5z 5 жыл бұрын
@@derekhead8180 thanks sir
@jimmytaypin5688
@jimmytaypin5688 Жыл бұрын
Saan Tayo kukoha Ng 1.414
@Dhanas748
@Dhanas748 6 жыл бұрын
Last one is wrong
@joannajelennie7264
@joannajelennie7264 3 жыл бұрын
For second 90deg is wrong
@leonwoods4052
@leonwoods4052 3 жыл бұрын
What is it in inches?
@kennethmelnychuk9737
@kennethmelnychuk9737 3 жыл бұрын
12 inches
@kennethmelnychuk9737
@kennethmelnychuk9737 3 жыл бұрын
Oops, my bad, his calculations are in metric. 304.8mm = 12 inches.
@nartinarti4155
@nartinarti4155 3 жыл бұрын
Sip ok
@guxmangarcia2756
@guxmangarcia2756 2 жыл бұрын
Esta mal el segundo de los codos de 90... Te faltó elevación
@abirajabiraj3911
@abirajabiraj3911 3 жыл бұрын
Brother last one is wrong.
@thota.murthy3028
@thota.murthy3028 4 жыл бұрын
1.414 how to coming
@ouroboros5378
@ouroboros5378 4 жыл бұрын
Is a factor for 45 ells. You can use it every time when you have 45*ells Run x1.414 or offset 1.414 you got the travel
@tituscodangumahad116
@tituscodangumahad116 4 жыл бұрын
Mas mahaba pa yong dalawang take off kaysa length nang pipe center to center,.
@romellagasca1546
@romellagasca1546 4 жыл бұрын
Unclear.. where is that 1.414?
@leetlbt
@leetlbt 4 жыл бұрын
Off set x 1.414= travel- 2 45s centre = end to end travel pipe
@leetlbt
@leetlbt 4 жыл бұрын
How to find out the centre of a 4" 45 elbow,,,,4"" 2" 1" 1/2 = 2 + 1/2 = 21/2 centre of a 4" 45 elbow. Do the say for all sizes this is the easy way
@pukohas
@pukohas Жыл бұрын
x=500/sin45 x= 707
@fazankhan6967
@fazankhan6967 7 жыл бұрын
15.8 what is this
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 7 жыл бұрын
45 degrees elbow take off
@bbantayan88
@bbantayan88 Жыл бұрын
25.4×.625= 15.875
@SAMI.D1992
@SAMI.D1992 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong my dear you calculate 90 degree drawing
@edglue6138
@edglue6138 4 жыл бұрын
Confusing
@harolddelossantos8046
@harolddelossantos8046 4 жыл бұрын
1.414 = sin 45x2=1.414
@johnmabanag5355
@johnmabanag5355 Жыл бұрын
Where did he get 15.8 for 45 And 38.1 for 90
@melojanebendecio2795
@melojanebendecio2795 3 ай бұрын
38.1 is the simplest way to get the take off of long radius elbow 90 degre. Ex. 38.1 multiply by the size of the elbow. On 45 degree long radius. 15.8 multiply again to the size of the elbow. That what it is
@markanthonybajao434
@markanthonybajao434 Жыл бұрын
boss good day po, saan nkuha ang 1.414
@melojanebendecio2795
@melojanebendecio2795 3 ай бұрын
Pythagorean theorem yan boss. Yang 1.414 ay ang formula panu kuhain ang sukat ng right angle at diagonal measurements ng 45 off set,run at travel. Sa high school Gina gamit na Yan natin. Di lang natin napansin. Theory Yan ni Pythagoras ng Greece.
@blackspeed4215
@blackspeed4215 10 ай бұрын
Para lng yan sa same 45° ang 1.414 formula
@dgangadhr9637
@dgangadhr9637 5 жыл бұрын
Supr nis aber see
@domingopupo4371
@domingopupo4371 5 жыл бұрын
Long radius 90* equal diameter x 1,5 off diameter Short radius 90* it’s equal diameter
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@omarahmed-ld4vf
@omarahmed-ld4vf 5 жыл бұрын
yes
@maricriscostino5648
@maricriscostino5648 6 ай бұрын
Malinyn boss hindi mo binuwasan ng gap 6mm
@arnelaparece7916
@arnelaparece7916 2 жыл бұрын
Boss ..yun spool center to center 500...tapos yung take off dalawa 608..paano yan....
@mayhanstv5714
@mayhanstv5714 2 жыл бұрын
Mag fabricate ka nalang boss pag hndi pwd.. Kasi meron talagang mang yayari na mag kalapit Lang ang gap. Short 45 deg.
@foysalexclusivenewschannel3449
@foysalexclusivenewschannel3449 4 жыл бұрын
1.414what this one
@sardeapatrick449
@sardeapatrick449 10 ай бұрын
707 with welding gap
@melojanebendecio2795
@melojanebendecio2795 3 ай бұрын
It's for you to decide how much measure of welding gap you want to put on
@reynaldodionson5262
@reynaldodionson5262 2 ай бұрын
Hindi ba kasali ang wilding gap?
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre Ай бұрын
we have 3 to 4 mm gap but we have company specification and procedure but this is standard
@eemjaearbues2808
@eemjaearbues2808 3 жыл бұрын
Skwala lang gamit ko jan bos mabilis pa
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