How much faster is our VW Golf GTI Mk5 with these mods?

How much faster is our VW Golf GTI Mk5 with these mods? | PH Project Car Pt.5

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Жыл бұрын

Our Golf GTI is as grippy as it gets in the corners, but needs more grunt on the straights to match the Golf R. Time to address that...
The temptation at the start of any project is to jump straight into power mods, but doing so without at least looking into brake, tyre and suspension upgrades could be a recipe for, in the GTI’s case, armfuls of understeer. We’ve done all of that now, and have even gone to the effort of sending Cam back to school (the driving kind, that is), meaning PH Project Car is ready for a power boost! After picking up an upgraded intercooler, sports cat, induction kit, clutch and flywheel from eBay, we head to Revo for an engine remap and a run on its dyno to see how much power we’re making. The GTI produced 200hp in stock form and has likely lost a few over the last 17 years - can we break the 250hp barrier with these upgrades?
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@PistonHeadsTV 11 ай бұрын

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@IMattayy Жыл бұрын

Should have bought a used K04 kit, s3 intercooler, vis internals and then let Rtech have at it with their k04 injectors, valves cleaned, runner flaps deleted, balance shaft deleted Would have been Easily 360bhp Whoever wins this car needs to get the valved walnut blasted, balance shaft free wheel and runner flap.delete to remove the major failure points of the tfsi

@haroldbutler778 Жыл бұрын

Yes they are.. balance shaft is a problem in fsi timming belt motors. Also F23T can be had for 600. Not sure why they didn't buy that. They had plenty of money to do it.

@StickyJamC 5 ай бұрын

Is this the same situation for the edition 30 BYD engine??

@nope.c Жыл бұрын

K04 and a HPFP, and you should be at about 350hp.. well worth the money LSD would make a ton of difference too

@stevemitchell8199 Жыл бұрын

Loving the build! As a Mk5 GTI Stage 1 owner who has pretty much the same mods (REVO intake, though the much cheaper and arguably “lower quality” Gravity downpipe, exhaust and intercooler), I can say one usually overlooked item is a new AC condenser. High mileage condensers take a lot of the road debris damage over the years, fitting a new one really helped overall airflow and cooling on my car!

@albertonword 2 ай бұрын

Maybe with just a good clean on the AC condenser and all the radiators you could have a similar result?

@rjhandley556 Жыл бұрын

I have a mk5 gti and am planning on making a few mods. found this video really useful so thank you 👊🏻

@PistonHeadsTV Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! Hope we've been able to help 👊

@10rGreenninja Жыл бұрын

Good result BUT why no pre update. Dyno check to see the actual starting point?????

@joshbanks6367 Жыл бұрын

My mk5 made 276bhp with just a sports cat and panel filter… it’s all about the map.

@paulmichael3844 Жыл бұрын

What was the torque?

@mikemayers9353 Жыл бұрын

Would have been cheaper : used k04 with downpipe , used s3 intercooler . Done

@mikemayers9353 Жыл бұрын

330 bhp

@marcooconnor Жыл бұрын

Does the GTI have forged rods?

@johnday6188 Жыл бұрын

A k03 car isn't making 330bhp 😂

@chrisgibson5523 Жыл бұрын

@@johnday6188That's why he said used k04... The engine is more than capable.

@graemewhitehead6233 Жыл бұрын

@@marcooconnorno.

@osmanjangir7225 Жыл бұрын

5th of November is a good day to be born on.. 🎉🎉 Great video good look to everyone

@scotnicos5383 Жыл бұрын

this series has been fantastic - loved it!

@PistonHeadsTV Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! Finale is just around the corner...

@JakobusVdL Жыл бұрын

Interesting information from Luke about the standard airbox and inlet, also the adjustability of the ecu. Can you give us some insights into the upgrade options that were considered and rejected before setting on the Intake, intercooler. exhaust and remap selection?

@robpitt1095 Жыл бұрын

really enjoying the build, cant wait to see the gti against the golf r

@nickacelvn Ай бұрын

This is by far the best looking version of the Golf platform.

@iandavies1893 Жыл бұрын

Going to be interesting to see how close you get to the R. Agree with some of the comments that using certain second hand parts would help the costs. Personally on the straights above 30mph you will give the R a run for it's money, but I think traction will be the limiting factor on a short curcuit. Looking forward to seeing the outcome. Still think your car is better looking than the R😊

@JustinStrife 7 ай бұрын

I agree 100%. I prefer the styling of the mk5 over the 8. The mk8 is a great performer, but I have to root for the underdog mk5.

@tms977 Жыл бұрын

Still think it's work mentioning to your viewers that the parts and car having a $10k budget is great, but any decent mechanic is going to charge a far bit more to fit all those parts, significantly increasing the budget needed via labour costs

@MrCaterhamr500 Жыл бұрын

Why would it be in dollars, it’s the UK?

@racer247 Жыл бұрын

It amazes me how people have fake budgets, basically arbitrary if you have friends who will help for a few beers vs a shop that will nickel and dime you for everything. And notice how there are no setbacks that happen with every build. But as with any of these types of series, all will be finished on time, under budgets with results achieved. Counting Driver as Upgrade 😅🤣😂

@anthonyambrose479 Ай бұрын

Avoid the ‘friends n family plan’ . Pay the mechanic

@TheMjw123 Жыл бұрын

I have mk5 gti running a s3 intercooler,milltek full system with sports cat and a k&hardpipe induction kit,stage 2 mapped to 278bhp with a stage 2 Sachs clutch.

@quantaccount4337 Жыл бұрын

Quite odd to not do dyno-run before changing all those parts. and before re-mapping (of course ideally with same temp, humidity, etc.)

@kingGar27 Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@McMigGT Жыл бұрын

This is amazin, if I won this beautiful GTI it would help a lot with transport for my family, GOD Bless you all.

@soe50060 Жыл бұрын

How do that Militek exhaust fit into that Ebay box?

@DEEDrives Жыл бұрын

POWER!!! Such a great car to upgrade best model be dub lost their mind 😂

@chrisrusted7292 9 ай бұрын

Just had my mk5 golf GTi mapped & made 302bhp, still k03 turbo but full 3' decat exhaust, ram air intake, S3 intercooler with airtec twintercooler RS4 return valve uprated fuel pump internals r8 coil packs, free wheeling balance shaft pulley, had the inlet walnut blasted, along with the handling parts like s3 brakes all round all the suspension poly bushed & lowered suspension would love to see how well it would do against the mk8 time

@sunsetgarage755 Жыл бұрын

As others have said, (and they’re quite right) you would have noticeably more gains with a simple KO4 upgrade (& it’s associated components) over everything you’ve done here. And the fact that you’re so budget conscious is even more reasons to do the KO4 upgrade that this base 147kW EA113 engine can quite easily handle. Considering the gains that an edition 30, Pirelli, or even the Mk6 R can get (all factory EA113 with KO4) once you start tuning, you are coming up way short of this engines safe tuning potential with the mods you’ve chosen. And yes I know this is not the exact same engine as the KO4 equiped cars, but a K04 & stage 2 tune won’t hurt this engine at all.

@veg4life. 9 ай бұрын

Two till the end of the competition, fingers crossed, good luck everyone, happy Halloween and guy fawks night😊

@mariuszanfir2298 Жыл бұрын

Where are the wheels on those _wheel_ horsepower?

@Bill__Murray Жыл бұрын

What about the Hpfp?

@ahemgee9542 Жыл бұрын

Why did you dumb down the tuning aspect so much? Is this becoming a budget car wow? Ever heard of AFR ? A Used K04 turbo and LSD with HPFP as would've been better to properly finish the job. A remap, intake and sports cat is not exactly thinking out of the box.

@SaltyOldBaldurian 9 ай бұрын

Literally a 15 minute Revo ad....

@Draxindustries1 Жыл бұрын

Re all these comments ' should have changed the turbo' , 'should have changed the engine' ect. This is just being done to obtain a little extra power from this particular car. Start swopping engines and you may as well just go out and buy the car its fitted to! In any case 273hp is more than enough from a 2litre and plenty enough for anyone to be using on heavily congested UK roads. Push an engine too far beyond its original hp rating and engine / clutch/ gearbox life will be vastly reduced...

@PistonHeadsTV Жыл бұрын

[insert 'THANK YOU' meme here]

@ahemgee9542 Жыл бұрын

Didn't see anyone mention an engine swap, just the very common mods on the 2.0 TFSi , addressing the weak points - tuning it AND actually improving its reliability. People have been tuning these for nearly 20 years now. The k03 turbo 'd engines are limited in many factors and what they've down is not really addressing that. The Golf R will destroy it as is.

@paulmichael3844 Жыл бұрын

Like everyone said should of gone for a ko4 upgrade turbo. My old mk6 gti made 280 bhp on a stage 1 at Rtec and that was very quick for 280bhp but still wouldn’t have the legs on a Brandnew R because the turbo is tiny

@tubejorrit Жыл бұрын

I have a mk6 gti, debating if I should go for the ko4 or stay with the stock turbo. I really like the midrange of the small turbo and I'm wondering if the punch stays the same with the ko4

@reedymc Жыл бұрын

@@tubejorrit the punch is awesome from 2000rpm+ ive got a ko4 on the one i bought it goes well. you will need the rest of the bits like injectors to get it ready for it.

@jamesmedina2062 Жыл бұрын

@@tubejorritYou can also do a hybrid turbo from GPopShop in Arkansas or a custom build. You will need better injectors and new mapping.

@LedSlinga Жыл бұрын

@@tubejorritk04 is better at higher speeds while k03 spools up quicker at lower rev ranges

@libertasetpatrie 10 ай бұрын

cars like this is why i always tell my parents not to replace our 20 year old golf 5

@Danny61ll Жыл бұрын

I always thought that the stage 2+ had to have uprated HPFP internals? Or did I miss something?

@JustinStrife 7 ай бұрын

I assume the mk5 GTI FSI is the same as my 6R for the fuel requirements. Stage 2+ with the k04 definitely needs hpfp.

@CR15PY1 4 ай бұрын

What if you just upgrade the hpfp internals stock haha with cold air , decat, larger boost pipes, turbo muffler delete

@jeryjohn Жыл бұрын

To calculate hp you need to calculate drive train loss and add that to whp

@joshmerrick4716 4 ай бұрын

I’m looking at buying a mk5 gti and I’ve been getting quotes for a stage 2/stage 2+ map Pretty much all of the companies I’ve spoken to have said they can achieve between 260bhp-270bhp with just a sport cat and cold air intake, and 270bhp-290bhp with an s3 intercooler and updated hpfp I’m surprised you only managed 270bhp with all that hardware and a stage 2+ map

@pgr3290 Жыл бұрын

No wonder I walked tuned GTIs when I had a Focus ST mk2 way back in the day. 273 horsepower and 300lb/ft after all these bolt ons? You got that from a basic map only on the ST, mountune cars were easy 270bhp and 300lb/ft with the MP260 tune and air filter. Full Induction, intercooler, exhaust bolt ons and map you were 300bhp and 350lb/ft torque on the stock turbo. It melted the stock clutch mind, but there was an easy upgrade everyone did....

@JustinStrife 7 ай бұрын

They're limited by the size turbo. An mk6R comes with a k04 stock, add just a tune and it's around 300hp and gobs more torque.

@joplop0144 9 ай бұрын

Is a pvc delete a good idea

@CR15PY1 4 ай бұрын

Is it? With catch can is it worth it

@euanbegbie Жыл бұрын

Will Pip work on my car for free too?

@dominikkozela9763 Жыл бұрын

7k for a mk5 gti is wild. Could have bought one for less than half

@PA28Cherokee 4 ай бұрын

Someone can’t comprehend simple English well.

@stumo8681 Жыл бұрын

Imagine what it'd be like with decent software

@ht1881 Жыл бұрын

Are we stripping out the interior?

@marcgauduchon Жыл бұрын

You forgot to show the hpfp upgrade needed for the stage2+

@johnday6188 Жыл бұрын

And the rs4 fprv

@HouseholdHusband Жыл бұрын

puts new exhaust parts on, doesn't show clip of new exhaust note 🧐

@richy69ify 7 ай бұрын

That's because it's an MOT failure. Showing off loud pipes will get them completely banned.

@louisgreenleaf235 Жыл бұрын

Should have gone K04.

@anonimushbosh Жыл бұрын

Did you forgot to include the costs to the individual upgrades? Could you add them into a pinned comment? 👍👍

@markgreen4455 Жыл бұрын

Looking good guys but those brake calipers look soddy get em painted properly

@jamesmedina2062 Жыл бұрын

Sooty or shoddy??

@iconboyy Жыл бұрын

"nice to fit" while the entire front end is off

@Jackbmxxx Жыл бұрын

Only made 270bhp on a stage 2+? 🤨 mine was on 140k had a intake and decat and that was it made 271bhp and 320ft-lb with a slipping clutch at Rtech. You’ve got a cooler and a uprated clutch should be in the 290’s bhp range easy

@TheBLACKSkellington148 Жыл бұрын

R-tech dyno’s are lies. I bet yours is really 240bhp max.

@irshaadahmadparker3665 2 ай бұрын

why would you not let your audience hear what this car sounds like during the dyno testing

@ivanb3303 Жыл бұрын

Sooner or later the proof will be in the pudding

@itzayekay 11 ай бұрын

Can i have the car please 🙏🏿

@trethegreatestt9880 Ай бұрын

There is no way all these parts came from eBay

@rkiller56pbs44 Ай бұрын

R32 rear conversation WORTH EVERY DOLLAR

@andrewwright. Жыл бұрын

induction kit is a complete waste of money on that car.

@lucatronconi3558 Жыл бұрын

Don't lose your time only 1 upgrade k05 by Turbo direct SA in sud africa...best turbo for this engine..plug and play

@elazotacunaos4752 Жыл бұрын

I love the comments. People claiming 330-360hp and totally forgot a differential 😂 This is not a car for drag races, the car needs to turn.

@Elvis-yu3ps Жыл бұрын

the series would be much better if you complete the project within a month..

@str8sawceentertainment373 Жыл бұрын

This mechanic clearly doesn’t know the mk5 platform mods 🤣🤣 fuel? U mean TURBO fuel pump internals

@mrmrsread6154 Жыл бұрын

Why don't you shed some weight? Back seats out job. Should have saved some budget for some lighter front seats too.

@PistonHeadsTV Жыл бұрын

There's still one more episode to go...

@McBoomPow Жыл бұрын

This is really not the way to do things. You dyno to base line. Then add a part and do another until your mods are fully installed. If not, you'll not know what makes power or is just bullshit. As usual Revo cover lines about "packages" your car isn't a Gran Turismo car. Staged packages are often just marketing. They could've done just the downpipe and the tune to get around that short circuit with little heat soak.

@richy69ify 7 ай бұрын

what if certain parts work better together? You'd need to dyno different combinations.

@McBoomPow 7 ай бұрын

@@richy69ify the base line is to do each part individually. Why? Because some things are cosmetic and don't change much in the way of power delivery. In most modern 2L turbo engines an intake will not deliver big gains if at all. Because the air flow is already optimised. Rather, having a bigger throttle body and inlet manifold will give more gains.

@S1cari0 Жыл бұрын

Hmm very sad remap

@user-uz9yv7vd6s 11 ай бұрын

Buying parts of ebay 😂 supplied foc more like

@Tefloncoated Жыл бұрын

Great idea but very wordy video for me.

@winzfeld1 Жыл бұрын

Dumb. KO4.

@mikemayers9353 Жыл бұрын

YOU LIVE IN UK WHY NOT GET TRACKSLAG !!!!!

@6th.replicant577 Жыл бұрын

Disappointing, half-baked, rushed, sponsor-beholden Car Throttle rip-off. Very obvious PistonHeads’ current owner runs the show on an every-expense-spared basis. Which is a shame.