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Couldn't agree more

First ever person I saw to congratulate him for it

I am 101% agree! XD

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yes, but the second frame would be bad if I didn't use fog difference between the closest and the farthest, without fog it would seem like everything is on your face, like to have a far mountain at your side

My thoughts exactly. I think he was using it as an example of a standalone piece, but the right side would be great as a background of a larger work or video game, drawing less attention to itself for focus on the foreground. The left is better if it's the focus.

Yeah if this was a background for a platformer I would prefer to use the right one, maybe with SOME more contrast in special places but if you can convey a background to your player, making him know what is solid and what just bg image, is half the battle really.

agree. it's important to think about choice tho. if you chose to make something with little contrast, there should be a reason. So e.g, it's a background image, or it's far away etc

I think white outlines, especially when passing, grab your attention more.

What hardware are you using?

@@plague_doctor0237 I'm making my own graphics card, for a CRT TV. I'm using a ATMEGA1284 clocked at 20MHz as the core of the GPU, along with some analog electronics to aid the color fabrication. I've managed to pull off a 120x120 resolution with 200 colors. If you are interested, you can look up my name on github.

CRT TVs often simulated anti-aliasing before it was a thing too.

@@lapelusa993 Dude, I literally say that I know that that's what the video says. It's a really important point though, and bears repeating.

Yeah. It bears repeating. I have seen them be broken for stylistic choice. Sometimes you may even go for what the video warns you about. It can serve a purpose. But is more about knowing what you're doing. The issue comes up more when people do not think about what they're doing. Breaking the guidelines can be great, when you do it on purpose.

You have to learn the rules before you break them. Someone taught me this in middle school; I think it's very applicable to all kinds of art doing.

@@elthomas_ Oh yeah that's a good point and is applicable to basically anything.

Like in any art: when to break the rules? When you know what you're doing. When the rules stand in the way of your goal.

Same

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I do agree that it can be a stylistic/utility purpose. Just depends on the situation. Like for example if a key is a decoration or if it's for utility purposes. Like if it's in the background of like a jail or home then don't use a black outline as the eye maybe drawn to it. But that can be useful to an important object as it needs to be found to progress. But I feel like because of how this video is structured and how the tip was talked about seemed to be more of a "Don't overuse black outlines as it can break immersion". In the end these are more or less guidelines than actually solid rules so it's hard to have a correct answer and more so a generally accepted one.

@@8bit_pineapple Whoah, look what it did now!

I think black outline also looks cartoonish so if you want something cartoonish black outline might be better Oh also here is a different advice too Dont take advice from people who have no idea what they are doing (me)

Yeah, I agree! An animation tutorial would help alot of people

Yes an animation tutorial would be great!

Yeah, it's interesting how mediums overlap. My knowledge of hue shifting from pixel art has been super helpful for vector and digital painting.

is this a challenge

Mix?

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@@Scarabola If you use white/black to add shading/highlights, you won't be changing the warmth with your shade, which this video advocates for (and it really does make your palettes look a lot better). Instead, you should experiment with mixing with a dark blue for your shade, and a yellow (for warmth) for your highlights

​@@GerbilDripIf you have a light source that is white you can mix the bright side with white and the shadows with black. But I agree that you offen have a yellow light source and that you should shift your hue a bit then.

True.

Yeh me too. I like sometimes to experiment with different styles that break these unwritten rules

Me too!

We made one! It's called Soup 'em up and you can see my process in the MS Paint video.

This game is TBoI, isn't it?

Yeah that's true. Black outlines can help with that look too.

​@@PixelOverloadChannel reallly depends on what old style your going for; commander keen? doom? Wolfenstein 3D? PONG?? E.T (atari)?????

Yea bro