Agree I laughed out loud.

Was just about to say!

I thought I was the only one who noticed that.

It was the pause… load. First giggle of my day.

I cackled!

I was hoping someone would mention this. I remember hearing about the ladybugs and was so relieved to hear it was a false alarm!

Thanks! Feeling insecure here -- am I the ONLY person who wants to know if there was a fire?

Man KELSEY !! I sure am glad that crew didn't have a camera in the hold to confirm a fire . That information would have sucked for them to know :D

​@@indycharlieYep, and imagine if it was infrared capable as well.

Thank you! I can totally believe this. I watched a spider crawl into my smoke detector once and set it off for a minute. Unfortunately I did not wake up with superpowers the next morning.

I looked up your aircraft -- cool! Kind of like a twin engine C-130!

@@festerofest4374, yes sir, correct! Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

Your stories would be interesting to know also, sir. What an honor for Kelsey to hear from you.

😂😂😂

It happens as the flight crew dumps their entire load over a cabin fire.

"All the way in there!"

That was a gnarly fire, and a very good example of why any fire indication should be cause for landing ASAP. They took so long on flight 6 wondering "is it really a fire?" that they lost controls because of that. I think the hold of all passenger jets should have cameras. He says no because they're not reliable - but the smoke detection isn't reliable either, thus what happened on flight 6. The cameras add an extra layer of security.

@@jonslg240huh?!? They immediately turned back to the airport as soon as they got the indication. Albeit, they should have gone to Doha, they didn’t waste time wondering if it was real.

@@vito774 Right, the reason they didn't go to Doha if I remember is cause neither pilot has been there, which I'm a bit conflicted on. On the one hand yeah you don't know the airport you're going to but the people there could help you, specially if you dealing with an emergency of that level. On the other your plane is still technically configured to the airport you left from, and you know the airport, but it's far behind you, what if the fire worsened(which it did), what if you find your systems unresponsive while flying back

@@MST545 sadly what you said happened. I don’t know if they would have made Doha, but it was half the distance. They fought until the end and rest easy to that crew.

That’s really true

Yes!

Kelsey is the best

He’s gotta address this eventually, no?

​@@inshallamiami you would think so. He probably has some reason for it, I guess eventually we will find out what that is.

You can tell from his face he realized it right away. The 5th grader mood hit instantly.

Came...😮 For this comment freaudien slip

He kept it in there, and didn't edit it out, and we all got a good chuckle

It’s the “all the way in there” that broke me. lol

@@Kalvinjj what face? O, that face

Same!

Exactly what I was thinking. What happened?

He left out the most important part of the story. They put the fire out. Nobody was injured.

@@DontDrinkTheFlavorAidthen feel free to not watch. Kelsey is a very personable individual who does a good job of explaining things for people who have zero aviation experience.

@@DontDrinkTheFlavorAid agree to disagree. Anyway, he makes more money from his youtube channel than he did as an FO. So, as a measure of success I’d say he is doing pretty well. How is your youtube channel?

I think they should have at least 2 cameras in the cargo hold of passenger jets.. yes the camera can't be solely relied upon, it's not like they should replace smoke detectors - but it's one more layer of security. Nowadays tons of people put devices with lithium batteries on their checked luggage, because they don't want to take 4 ipads and 2 portable chargers on board for their 4 little kids..

That’s insane. Glad y’all lived to tell about it.

@@jonslg240 the question is: what do you do if the camera confirms the fire? Does it change what the crew should do? And what if the camera shows no fire but there is a smoke/fire alarm? Should they just ignore it and hope they made the right call? Cameras are useless because the crew must take the alarm serious and always assume the worst.

@@MegaKikeoany and every alarm...

​​@@MegaKikeo aren't you missing one scenario? No fire alarm but fire or smoke visible on the camera? That could save lives, doesn't seem that useless to me.

Same! I used to be an anxious flyer, especially in crappy weather… now I sit back and wonder what category ILS the pilots are flying. 😆

YES!

@@established_on_the_run, I’m not at that point in my life.

That’s funny. I was in bad turbulence into DIA, and ppl were freaking, hitting the ceiling. My 6 yo was terrified, so I was like, “don’t worry, a 747 can flex 24 feet! Look at our wings, that’s like six feet!” A hour later, a man stops me in the terminal, “hey, I really liked they way you calmed your son down…it helped me, my family and everyone else” I said, “ i was terrified and lying !”…tho the 24’ is accurate, iirc.

@@DrDeuteron That is so wholesome and important.

This explains why my TV refused to play this video 😂

haha i was thinking the same, "easy to say when you've got 4" :D

That's CAPTAIN Kelsey to you

"Queen of the skies" for a reason... Sure, the A380 has 2 decks and 4 engines... But the 747 did it first, and frankly, better. The A380 is just a kinda plump princess if you compare her to the queen.

@@philstuf because she's FAAABULOUS.

@@philstufThey are already getting rid of the 380's...

😂

8-y-o Kelsey havin a moment 😆

@@windwatcher11 Didn't we all?

Yeah, there was definite relief as he repeated “cleared to land.”

The story of UPS flight 6 was really hard to watch it unfold. The failing systems, flight controls, no visibility due to cockpit smoke, loss of captain due to incapacitation, and eventual crash, even though the copilot was fighting until the end... That was an emotional watch. You can feel the increasing hopelessness.

​@@hayleyxyzhe flew it to the end

@@hayleyxyz I couldn’t agree more. Absolutely heart wrenching.

I mean, even if you don't logic would (or at least should) dictate to someone with no knowledge of aviation etc. that "my plane is on fire" is probably the number 1 thing you don't want happening in an oxygen pressurized metal tube filled with fuel and other flammable materials that's also flying through the air at 500 mph lol

Yeah, I think I've seen every episode of Air Crash Investigation at least twice, probably more😅Swissair 111 comes to mind though. Several that started when they were already on the ground but still had fatalities. Dire situation if you're already on the ground, never mind in flight.

And keep pumping and pumping...

Not fully straight face, there was a hint in there. lol

I'd love a video that explains the process by which the pilots receive their promotions!

Live in yuma. Thank you for your service.

7051 man those are some great memories

Ugh, yuma. Used to fly in that area with students. Doesn't look like a fun place to be!

@@BobbyGeneric145 depends on what you think is fun. :-D

@@BobbyGeneric145 it wasn’t my first choice but i enjoyed my time there. I complained as much as anyone else about the heat and lack of rain but i grew up in nw Washington State where it is foggy and rainy right now. Lol

Do they call themselves squid or is that a typo?

@@Avendesora US Naval personnel are all affectionately called "squids." Like Marine Corp personnel are called leather-necks (and some other names), Army grunts, Coast Guard are 6 foot sailors, etc. All in good fun.

@@JO-xt3om Excellent news, thank you :)

That pregnant pause was 😮😅😅

The pilot’s voice when they said they’ lke to start descending ”now” ... wow. I kind of hear the stress in his voice, but, wow, I’m amazed by his control. (Or maybe the sound is distorted a bit and the situation makes me hear things that aren’t there?). I know they’re trained for this, but still, I do admire the pilots’ capacity to stay calm despite being afraid/knowing just how bad the situation is.

​@Cecily-Pimprenelle To me it sounded like he was trying to make the Now a bit commanding to show how important it was, It was said different then the rest. I'm sure one of us is on track.

Well you can't throw your hands up and run around the plane screaming help me help me please

They are programmed to always be under control. Many are ex military, so that attitude goes a long way. The worst they may say, is " O shit " if the plane is going down and they cannot fix the problem. They are cool, to their very end. Respect ! They know, it will not really hurt. Just trauma , one second , and it's over. After all, we do die as no one escapes this condition.

@@linanicolia1363 my brothers last words were “go out the first officers window“ my brother was the flight engineer, his job in case of a crash was to go back into the fuselage and help the flight attendants get the people out the navigator was supposed to be outside the plane to help the people out my brothers airplane was a DC 6, it was in 1960 they crashed into a mountain in Guam. Evidently they all survived at first. The navigator got out the first officers window. I’m not sure what my brother did, if he could move or not, but as the navigator was going out the window, the whole plane blew up. I think there were about 15 passengers in the rear of the plane that survived, and of course the navigator. I was lucky enough to get my hands on the original investigation report,pictures and all from the national transportation safety board, that’s what it was called in 1960 at least when it involved a military transport World Airways was contracted to fly military personnel and their families.

Agreed. In my opinion, FedEx 705 is one of the most incredible stories of survival in aviation.

There is a very good TV show about that incident. It was a phenomenal job done by all three pilots to stop that maniac. They actually interview the pilots. If you haven't seen it, it is a very chilling thing to watch.

@@scottkrise1867 There’s also a book written about the incident-a good read!

They went full Wile E Coyote on the perp.

I'll have to check that out. Thanks@@established_on_the_run

The UPS 6 pilots did not have the EVAS (inflatable vision units) at the time of the crash. IIRC, UPS Management finally agreed to provide the EVAS to its pilots about 2 years after the crash.

Got to check on that. My son is also a 767 cargo captain and he never told me about this "vision unit" . I have a single engine land ( private pilot ) so I have a clue what goes on, during a fire. Nothing fun, for sure. In little planes, you just would not see the instruments......".fly by the seat of your pants " ? . Not likely such a system would be available in a small plane. I am not flying anyway. Too long between drinks and too old. I ran out of money long ago to lease airplanes but, I am always concerned about cargo fires. Right now we seem to see some inconsistencies in maintenance, allowing structural problems , that could easily have been avoided. That is also another problem Boeing is having to deal with. It is affecting all 737's and then some.....

I'm stealing that saying. Thanks.

@@Mickey1-jy2tg it’s not my saying but it is proven by science. Spread the word my friend.

He almost didn't make it. I know I had a good laugh

The fire system onboard is to try and suppress the fire long enough for it to get on the ground. Since humans don’t do well on their own at 500mph and 20,000+ feet protecting the plane is protecting those inside it.

Firemen for residences are now starting to use large fibreglass blankets for car fires. It deprives the runaway fire of oxygen to burn and they are then able to tow the "wrapped" car into a scrapyard to let it cool till there is no longer danger of ignition if oxygen allowed in.

@@jfmezei what I've heard of is flooding the car with water, and finding a way to get it into a tank they can fill with water. and trying to get the car industry to provide a way to pump water directly into the battery compartment to try to slow the runaway.

Li burns in water, some dump the car in a tank to contain the fire but once started water will fuel a Li fire.

@@charlesmaurer6214 even so, water absorbs a massive amount of heat in the process of becoming steam, and it is relatively cheap to acquire and easy to transport.

Bad. Really bad.

😂

​@@michman2why

Thanks. It's frustrating to have an inconclusive ending...

​@@gordonrichardson2972I don't think it really matters what the original cause was; they managed to land and that's the most important

Those little stinkers can be quite annoying. And they can literally give off an acrid smell similar to some hot electrical or overheating engine kind of smell.

​@@gordonrichardson2972 I think from a pilot's perspective it doesn't really matter whether there was a fire in the end or not, as long as they land safely and can evacuate. the procedure for dealing with the emergency while in the air is the same no matter what. maybe that's why he doesn't mention it.

Li-ion batteries are a firefighting nightmare

@@Garythefireman66 They dont react like normal fires so you can't just throw water on them. They generate their own oxygen so even suppression systems won't work. Other than if they deployed liquid nitriogen to cool them.

@@Jabarri74 I’ve heard stories of EVs catching fire when they’ve been in contact with salt water. That’s terrifying. I can’t imagine how horrific it is to be on an aircraft.

Can the fire suppression system really do anything to stop lithium ion batteries from burning? The batteries create their own oxygen, so all the co2 in the world won't stop the fire.

@@dannydaw59 Conventional ones wouldn't it seems. Liquid nitrogen or another super cool liquid may get it below its thermal decomposition temperature where it can keep reigniting

Fast, succinct, straightforward, and _relevant,_ I might add.

I was impressed it can pump for hours if needed.

Survived both incidents, too. Now retired in VCV.

I bet yes.

Yes, to lose altitude

Also they had to get lined up on the longer runway while moving in the right direction for the wind, and a 737 has a pretty big turning radius. Note how, when being vectored onto the final approach, the controller isn't sure the plane can make the turn from 210 degrees (flying SW) to 180 degrees (due south, alinged with runway 18) and gives them an option to enter approach from 150 degrees (flying south-EAST) instead. The only reason they'd do that is if they couldn't get turned south fast enough and ended up west of the runway. So, part of that big loop is just the effect of being required to make big turns.

@@davydatwood3158 Thanks! I figured it was something like that, but I couldn't tell the scale. You mean a 737 can't just corkscrew straight down?! ;) I'm going to have to watch again and listen for the options you mentioned.

Yes!

Air Canada 797...

It's called approach pattern. Typically airliners need room to slow down and descend, and once you've gone into the pattern it's easier for controllers to spread out multiple planes on approach so they can land one after the other.