Planing Wide boards more accurately with Rob Cosman

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7 жыл бұрын

Most folks own a stationary planer that is wider than their jointer. Unless you know how to flatten one side of the board with hand tools, the extra capacity isn't useful.
Planers only make faces parallel, if you send a twisted or cupped board through the planer you will get a twisted or cupped board out the other end, just thinner. A bit of know-how and some elbow grease will allow you to use the full width of your planer, accurately! We filmed the entire process so you will get an idea of what it takes. Enjoy
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@DrkKnyght1981
@DrkKnyght1981 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos because you don't cut and edit the harder parts of the process. You give us a realistic view of what it takes to master the craft. Other videos are great for those who like to just see a project from "A to Z," but you actually show us the difficulties and then teach us how to overcome them. Thank you for your hard work, selflessness, and expertise. You honor the craft with your videos.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
very nice comment, thank you.
@bocfus72
@bocfus72 7 жыл бұрын
You are an awesome teacher, thanks for putting in the hard work and sharing with us!
@heather42404
@heather42404 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing the whole process of how to spot high points on a board. This has been invaluable to me. Thank you. I love your videos. You're a great teacher.
@benjaminberan7645
@benjaminberan7645 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Rob. I loved the fact that you showcased the scrub plane and #6 plane. These 2 hand planes are often forgotten but I could make an arguement that these should be your first hand planes you get. Learning how to flatten/joint a face of a rough sawn board should be one of the first things you learn to do when learning woodworking and the use of hand planes. I love my #6, probably the most used plane in my shop. I use it just as in this video for flattening rough lumber as well as cleaning up large tabletop/panel glue ups and even as a jointing plane for jointing the edge of boards to be glued up.
@laurencelance586
@laurencelance586 7 жыл бұрын
I discovered scrub planes by accident when I built my workbench. They are a HUGE improvement over attempting to level a board with a belt sander. No noise and most importantly no dust ! Also fast and the level of precision one gets just can't be beat!
@richardmadsen115
@richardmadsen115 7 жыл бұрын
Rob, I really appreciate your ability to teach exactly how to perform different tasks. I work on a much smaller scale in my little Garage Shop but the principles are the same. Thank You
@AlergicToSnow
@AlergicToSnow 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The process is mostly intuitive but I always learn something when watching someone who really knows what they're doing go through it.
@scottymac713
@scottymac713 7 жыл бұрын
Invaluable info Rob! I have been weaning myself off power tools and thoroughly enjoy hand tools only...for the most part.
@sharpeguns1
@sharpeguns1 5 жыл бұрын
Old school baby, it gives you real satisfaction. And when the power is out, your not. I built a 2 story barn with bunk beds out in the wilderness. No electricity, no generator, I would go camping with the kids and dog, after playing . I would work on the barn. After 6 months it was done. We would go to our property and enjoy the barn, very cold and rain sometimes. My boys grew up, and would beg to go. Even if the weather was bad., 1 became a bad ass Soldier. And the a contractor for the Navy and Marines. Both are engineers. Talk about life lesson.
@p2as33
@p2as33 5 жыл бұрын
Another great tutorial, very clear and demonstrates your knowledge and fluancy with hand tools. Thanks for sharing
@frankwice4864
@frankwice4864 5 жыл бұрын
I have just found your site and what a breath of fresh air. This is the first workshop that looks like it’s been used most look like Molly maid has just spent the last two days in them. Also there is no bull as you make the odd mistake and you don’t try to cover them up but repair. Thank you I’ll keep watching
@alexcraig8543
@alexcraig8543 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome! Incredibly informative and you present the explanations with clarity. Thank you for taking the time and effort.
@pauliepipes2593
@pauliepipes2593 4 жыл бұрын
Rob, very nice working out the technicalities of flattening a board is such a way to show exactly the method to do it. This was easy to follow along with.
@amargnwalkr
@amargnwalkr 7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. A little sweat never killed anyone, and it was done in half an hour. I'd love to see a series on building that bench! You're an excellent teacher and craftsman and I'm sure there would be many tips even us more experienced woodworkers would find invaluable.
@latherookie
@latherookie 5 жыл бұрын
Rob man you love wood the way my gramps did. Thanks for what you do.
@stephenbamford
@stephenbamford 2 жыл бұрын
All of your videography and teaching is great. It is really useful to see and hear the thought processes you put into this aspect of accurate planing. Thanks for all yours and your staff's efforts to train folks and especially your efforts to serve those who serve us ideally in the highest sense. The values you bring to the process are exemplary. Thank you for your service.
@JonDunnmusician
@JonDunnmusician 4 жыл бұрын
Rob thank you for the moments of frantic chaos that with persistence become art form
@123reivax123
@123reivax123 5 жыл бұрын
That was hard work Mr Cosman. Thanks for that invaluable lesson.
@manitou2200
@manitou2200 7 ай бұрын
Hi Rob! I’m a 67 YO pro woodworker with 47 years of experience. I was re-acquainted to your videos recently when I was doing a tool search. BTW, Alan Peters was inspirational to me as well and I have a first addition of his book; Cabinetmaking, the professional approach. I also considered Sam and Alfred’s Maloof personal friends and own a Maloof original. I’m still working professionally because I love what I do. I love the content and quality of your videos! So this one auto fed to me and I watched it. My critique of this and your process here flattening your cherry plank would be this. It would be more efficient from a time and quality standpoint to have removed the guard on your 16” jointer and have used the full capacity of your jointer and its ranting outfeed table to flatten what you could on this plank. Then you could have leveled out the remaining unjointed strip with your hand planes. On the other hand if demonstrating the use of a scrub plane plus the #6 was your motive, then good on you, this is an excellent example of that! BTW, the #6 is my go to plane and has been for 40+ years. I have an excellent Bailey that is very highly tuned. The other thing I would mention is you could have incorporated the use of winding sticks here to demonstrate that skill. I’m lucky in that we have multiple jointers in our shop in northern Michigan 8” Delta and 16” Delta Invicta with helical heads and a 20” Oliver as well as a 25” Oliver planer with a helical head. If I do have to flatten a big slabs which happens now and then I use winding sticks, my 6.75” Makita hand planer with helical head and then hand planes to get it ready for either the 24” planer or the 43” AEM wide belt. Thanks for all your great content and concise delivery of it. You sir are an excellent woodworker. Cheers! Allan
@mmmmmmm8706
@mmmmmmm8706 5 жыл бұрын
Masterful. End to end problem solving was just excellent.
@BLHomestead
@BLHomestead 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Iam very new to woodworking and actually have a few boards to deal with that are like this one. It is very helpful for me to see the process of elimination to deal with it. Thank you so much for the education. Love the videos.
@bjm112148
@bjm112148 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching a master craftsman at work. Sometimes there is no substitute for hand labor.
@blackfender100
@blackfender100 7 жыл бұрын
Great work Rob you read the wood really well.That is half the battle.
@markproulx1472
@markproulx1472 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this video! What a nice lesson in learning to read the wood.
@sandman843
@sandman843 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel recently, very informative. Enjoy your straight forward manner.
@christianbosch8375
@christianbosch8375 7 жыл бұрын
I like your videos! You're a real woodworker and the best in class!
@casconie
@casconie 4 жыл бұрын
MASTER at his Craft!
@roberthoyle6442
@roberthoyle6442 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. I just recently found your channel. I am relatively new to woodworking and enjoying learning many new things from KZfaq to practice on. This video was perhaps the most informative about flattening lumber. The explanation, video angle and the execution were invaluable. I look forward to watching and learning from your channel for new skills to practice with.
@sgagnon3
@sgagnon3 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid Rob! I admire your enthusiasm and envy your tools! I wish I could put into words my gratitude for everything you have taught me. Cheers
@sgagnon3
@sgagnon3 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I will certainly share this
@parthasarathikarthigayan8367
@parthasarathikarthigayan8367 7 жыл бұрын
Tiring efforts vs untiring enthusiasm. A battle between body and mind for creativity and a quest for perfection. Great video. Best wishes!
@chemcody5119
@chemcody5119 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Rob. I learned a lot. Thank you!
@SimopsAus
@SimopsAus 7 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos Rob.......great content
@Spectro-One
@Spectro-One 7 жыл бұрын
Real woodworking.....!!!!...thanks for the lesson.
@gunnararndt4359
@gunnararndt4359 6 жыл бұрын
+1 for showing the process in real time.
@wellreadbeef
@wellreadbeef 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial Mr. 'C'. The repetition and steadfast thoroughness get a great result. Your demeanor made the watching enjoyable, and being able to see your shop gives me so many ideas for my own one day. Thanks, you have a new subscriber.
@silenthill5794
@silenthill5794 7 жыл бұрын
Love Robs videos.
@RonMarshallrone
@RonMarshallrone 6 жыл бұрын
Man that looks fun. Kinda hard but fun....I have an old plane I've never used I'm gonna make a scrub plane out of. Thanks for the vid!
@jon9757
@jon9757 4 жыл бұрын
Great video-thanks for showing what it takes to get it flat!
@josiahutah3712
@josiahutah3712 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for going through that Rob! Go Cougs!
@tinkermouse-scottrussell3738
@tinkermouse-scottrussell3738 7 жыл бұрын
Nice project Rob, enjoyed this content.
@tregyuop
@tregyuop 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great technique if you want the project to last. I prefer a planing sled for a quick job. Rob is a master of hand tools.
@hernancoronel
@hernancoronel 7 жыл бұрын
Quite a lot of work and even for a master craftsman like you it took quite a while. Awesome video! Thanks!
@ianrose2823
@ianrose2823 7 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial Rob!
@ilyaivanov1745
@ilyaivanov1745 7 жыл бұрын
This video has a lot of useful information !
@68shiloh
@68shiloh 6 жыл бұрын
Well done, thanks for sharing.
@BDM_PT
@BDM_PT 7 жыл бұрын
Hi there from Portugal, Nice video :D Obrigado(Thanks)
@MANJITSINGH-ko2oi
@MANJITSINGH-ko2oi 4 жыл бұрын
HI rob that was super advice and so useful thank u.
@phooesnax
@phooesnax 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@qqkk5581
@qqkk5581 7 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration with a tool (scrub plane) that is under-appreciated and less-understood. I keep one in the kitchen (you've never tried my wife's cooking).
@qqkk5581
@qqkk5581 7 жыл бұрын
I actually have to use it to clean the pans.
@davemartin1534
@davemartin1534 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked this video. Nuff said!!!
@danthechippie4439
@danthechippie4439 7 жыл бұрын
hi again Rob, great video as always. can I ask_ I don't have a scrub plane yet but I have the lie Nielsen low angle jack with a tooted blade and I wondered what your thoughts were between the two? Cheers
@adrianabshire
@adrianabshire 4 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot watching this! Thanks! I need to get a decent scrub plane!
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
get the Lie-nielsen version, my preference.
@robertkutz
@robertkutz 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice work.
@robertbrunston5406
@robertbrunston5406 7 жыл бұрын
Good job! Thank you.
@jaypanetta127
@jaypanetta127 3 жыл бұрын
Rob, another great session here, and I learned a lot as always. Many thanks to you. Just one thought: rather than flipping that heavy piece over and over again to test it, why not simply use your long straightedge to identify the high and low spots? That would work quite well and go very quickly. You're right that more folks should adopt and use the scrub plane. It's also a most useful tool for establishing texture on pieces that can benefit from that-sculpture for example.
@738polarbear
@738polarbear 6 жыл бұрын
Thank God someone who uses a riving knife.Thats real skill what he just did flattening that.
@freudeamfahrenm5
@freudeamfahrenm5 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@lmedwards4256
@lmedwards4256 6 жыл бұрын
I am a retired wood worker and enjoy seeing how others approach a situation. I continue to learn.Your way will get you a flat surface but have you tried putting your work on a known flat wood surface and wedge and lock your piece down so it can't move then run it through your planer? In a few passes you are flat on one side.This is a huge time saver that increases your profit as it only take a few minutes.
@garyroyce5735
@garyroyce5735 5 жыл бұрын
how do you lock it down
@Dickie2702
@Dickie2702 5 жыл бұрын
Simple. Lay board on a carrier board or sled if you like, say 1/2 in ply or mdf then blobs of hot glue in the right places to level the board and stop it moving. Then pass both thru your thicknesser. I have no jointer and have flattened boards through my thicknesser for years this way. Still enjoy watching somebody use hand tools which is why I am here. Look around youtube and you will find loads of sleds, just don't go mad with all the wedges and do dads people make. Hot glue is the way to solve the problem quick easy and knocks off simply after use.
@frontbum420
@frontbum420 5 жыл бұрын
how?
@Dickie2702
@Dickie2702 5 жыл бұрын
@@frontbum420 not quite sure what your query is but the carrier board (sled some call it) runs on the bed of the thicknesser, the board to be flattened sits on top of that. Once you have established where it is rocking and the locations for your blobs of hot glue, apply glue (to make clean up easier I usually stick a piece of two inch masking tape on carrier and board to be flattened and then apply big blob of hot glue to the tape, that way you simply pull the boards apart and remove the tape, glue comes off with the tape). When you rest the board to be flattened on the carrier board it squeezes the glue down and once hardened (30 seconds or so) it stops the board rocking and glues the two boards together. Then pass the board through the thicknesser, carrier board down obviously and take as many passes as are necessary to obtain a flat surface then remove from carrier board and flip over. Then pass the board through the thicknesser with the newly flattened surface down until you have a second flat surface. It's really easy and gives you a perfect result every time. I have no room for a big jointer and have flattened boards up to 10ft (bit tricky but a couple of roller stands and it worked fine) in length through my lunchbox thicknesser for years and years. If I haven't made the process clear let me know and I'll expand.
@sharpeguns1
@sharpeguns1 5 жыл бұрын
A flat surface and a long straight edge, draw measured squares with a charcoal pencil, move the board back and forth, the charcoal will make all highs seen with the charcoal moving out of squares. Same principal when I use Russian blue on steel. Its 100 percent effective. Art charcoal works best, I used same principal when I machine steel, no mess!
@PeteHowlett
@PeteHowlett 7 жыл бұрын
Since you were going to send this through the thicknesser I'd have used a 25mm mdf baseboard, shimmed the ends with wedges to keep it level, dogged it onto the baseboard and just sent it through the thicknesser taking very light skims... but hey, I'm an idle so and so and all that hand planning I did when I didn't know any better :)
@tonywwp
@tonywwp 4 жыл бұрын
You are the man !
@boblevey
@boblevey Жыл бұрын
Excellent !!!
@setdown2
@setdown2 3 жыл бұрын
Great video..thanks...
@garymccoy2888
@garymccoy2888 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thanks
@RADCOMJ1
@RADCOMJ1 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing and boy that looked hard work. I would use a router lol. i am sure you could double up as an arm wrestler the way you throw wood around. thanks for being our tutor Rob
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Exercise in the shop, killing two birds at the same time!
@patquinn5148
@patquinn5148 5 жыл бұрын
Your a good teacher Rob
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pat.
@More-Space-In-Ear
@More-Space-In-Ear 7 жыл бұрын
There's no better feeling of achievement when using hand planes and getting the stock flat....shame you didn't do it all but, as the saying goes.."time is money"………nice video again Rob 👍🏼😊
@More-Space-In-Ear
@More-Space-In-Ear 7 жыл бұрын
Rob Cosman ah right..👍🏼.. If time was there for you, would you of made this by hand?… I think the answer would be yes because the love of wood and all your hand tools.....I really enjoy your videos so please keep them coming 😉
@choochoo3985
@choochoo3985 6 жыл бұрын
Kind of reminded me of how I turned a three legged bar stool into a three legged milking stool. Ha!
@TorchwoodLuthiers
@TorchwoodLuthiers 7 жыл бұрын
Beast mode
@mikejoseph4720
@mikejoseph4720 4 жыл бұрын
I am impressed ...
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@100Butchieboy
@100Butchieboy 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and demonstration Rob! Where did you get the beautiful Rob Cosman Logo Sign in the background? Bet some really nice member made it for you (and good looking too)...
@AndrewFrink
@AndrewFrink 7 жыл бұрын
I really need to pick up an old #3 to #5 on ebay to convert to a scrub plane. A regular blade in a #3 does pretty well in softer woods, but for hard stuff like ash it can be a slow process.
@jaynegus4526
@jaynegus4526 7 жыл бұрын
I helped an old time woodworker with this same basic process on some maple of similar size. Instead of using a hand plane to attack the high spots he set up a lapping table with coarse sandpaper glued to the flat table. We faced each other and simply pushed the board back and forth between us. We never had to flip the board with this method and as soon as the rocking stopped the boards went into the planer.
@conchitacarmelita
@conchitacarmelita 7 жыл бұрын
The essence of working wood... top notch as always! I haven't flattened anything this big by hand. I do usually scribble some colored chalk or pencil down the board to check my progress. Is that not helpful in tackling twist?
@danthechippie4439
@danthechippie4439 7 жыл бұрын
hi Rob, would using your winding sticks help with the initial flattening? or a long straight edge? Cheers
@joeblow5958
@joeblow5958 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, I agree. Using winding sticks for the bulk of the primary work has got to be much faster than the constant flipping. Save the flipping for the last few high spots.
@mikeneill6400
@mikeneill6400 5 жыл бұрын
Do you buy a scrub plane or convert an existing one to be a scrub plane? What’s the best one to get started with?
@phillipyeager3176
@phillipyeager3176 7 жыл бұрын
Good work. Great patience as this took awhile to get flat. Thanks for all of your videos which help all of us. I couldn't help but notice the Army cap on the top shelf. Thanks for your service. Regards from an old Marine.
@phillipyeager3176
@phillipyeager3176 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping disabled veterans. It is appreciated.
@John_Malecki
@John_Malecki 7 жыл бұрын
Real good insight if you dont want to use a router and a sled.
@DIYwithUncleCy
@DIYwithUncleCy 2 жыл бұрын
Well like he said at the end "If your not afraid of a little hard work".... Maybe that Giant Oak tree your working on should be turned into a desk and the top should be done with his method. Yea? Subbed to ya both bro love both channels.
@cave-works
@cave-works 7 жыл бұрын
thank you thank you thank you
@Daveyhunter6
@Daveyhunter6 5 жыл бұрын
Rob do you have a video on how you made your work bench I see you have a acme threaded rod going through I have about 15 acme threaded rods about 1 Dia. by 7 feet long maybe I could make use of them that way thank you
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, however it is long, about 180 episodes, start to finish. That is only in my membership site however.
@dennismorison3096
@dennismorison3096 7 жыл бұрын
rob u said u were sharpening with 1200 grit diamond stone??? is that a ATOMA diamond stone and ifso how does it compare to the trend 1000 because i never thought my trend was truly flat enough to flatten my shapton stones. hope u answer back
@JakeRaytheRounder
@JakeRaytheRounder 7 жыл бұрын
I have trouble with this. Like shooting from the hip. sometimes i get lucky. Could you just scrub the whole surface?
@tomsommer54
@tomsommer54 Жыл бұрын
Can you set your planer to the thickness just below the hump or pivot point and run it through the planer to flatten it?
@TheSystemActive
@TheSystemActive 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob! I'm pretty new to woodworking and am really starting to get into the meat of it. I was introduced to your channel just recently, and let me tell ya, you have a viewer for life and a future customer (once my budget permits of course!). Your utmost attention to detail is impeccable and I'm really grateful for all the material you provide. After watching this video, I wanted to ask: What purpose is the scrub plane for when it seems your #6 managed to do an equivalent job, if not better? I feel like the longer reference edge on the #6 planed away the high spots more effectively while the scrub plane did so in more of a hunting manner. It leaves me wondering what purpose the scrub plane has when other planes may be able to do its job. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, and as comes assumed, it was a great video. I learned a lot!
@affordableelegance1196
@affordableelegance1196 Жыл бұрын
I watched the video and was enlightened cuz I've done similar process with #5 and #7 and it took close to 3 hours I think when the board is that severe and needs that much tuning looks like it speeds the process to getting to the jointer #7 or in this case the fore plane #6 a whole lot quicker than without the scuba plane. But then again, Rob makes it all look so easy.
@wrecks2007
@wrecks2007 7 жыл бұрын
What kind of wood is that? Do you have plans or videos on making that bench on your subscription web site? Thanks for sharing the info.
@laurencelance586
@laurencelance586 7 жыл бұрын
Yes Rob did a step by step on making that bench. I followed along and made my bench something that before was way over my skill set.
@eileencollins6898
@eileencollins6898 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob! After taking your hand planing class in Seattle, I have a great appreciation for the capabilities of hand planes. What brand of scrub plane are you using on the video? Hopefully, it is one that is available! Thanks, Eileen
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 5 жыл бұрын
The brand isn't important. The blade, and it's sharpness. and how it's set makes or break the plane
@researchcapt
@researchcapt 3 жыл бұрын
What type of wood was that? I am new to this, but why not use a plane longer than a #6 to knock down the high spots?
@joevannucci1392
@joevannucci1392 5 жыл бұрын
One way that's worked for me is to remove the jointer guard, and joint the board, letting it hang over the side of the table. Then flip the board, set the jointed portion on a simple sled - a piece of 3/4" Baltic at least as long as the board, and the same width as the jointer bed. Run the sled through the planer, making the opposite face parallel to the jointed section. Finally, remove the sled, flip the board, and plane off the 'step' left in the original face from jointing only part of the board.
@mediciworks7873
@mediciworks7873 7 жыл бұрын
Rob - A technique I was shown to save time from hand planing a cupped/warped board was to get a piece of melamine, the same width as the board you want to flatten, as well as a little bit longer. Place the board on top of the melamine, and shim the gaps of the high spots. hot glue them down to the melamine so they don't move, and then run it through the planer until the entire board has been planed down. then just flip it over, and plane out the highs/lows on the other side. much quicker, all though I do love hand planning.
@ambiorixbelgae9768
@ambiorixbelgae9768 4 жыл бұрын
The man's got skills for sure. Not sure if I'd buy his dovetail saws because of the price tag but he definitely knows his shit. The saws are probably great but I'm not rich.
@henrysollysangma3522
@henrysollysangma3522 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched your videos over and over again. Man, you are one of few wood artists present on KZfaq. That's just wonderful and certainly something that inspires me a lot...For a start, should I get a jack plane or a fore plane (18inch)? I am a hobbyist and I don't have power tools, but I will have to joint large 'slabs and rough/warped lumber' as we have plenty at home...all tropical hard wood.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t plan on buying a jointer plane (7 or 8) I would recommend getting a 6.
@henrysollysangma3522
@henrysollysangma3522 2 жыл бұрын
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thank you. Stay blessed.
@laurencelance586
@laurencelance586 7 жыл бұрын
Well that answers questions about a 3 HP saw stop being able to cut thick stock!
@haidenramage1960
@haidenramage1960 7 жыл бұрын
@robcoasman when you flattened the board could you of used winding sticks??
@ricos1497
@ricos1497 7 жыл бұрын
I find the human eye is pretty accurate when looking at these types of things, especially on large stock. I rarely use my winding sticks unless I'm struggling with the light or some other such reason. I find lifting the board at the end and looking down it works pretty well for detecting twist. Although I'm no professional!
@haidenramage1960
@haidenramage1960 7 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks I was just wondering :-)
@haidenramage1960
@haidenramage1960 7 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks Rob
@halbritt
@halbritt 7 жыл бұрын
I wondered this as well.
@SuperBardley
@SuperBardley 7 жыл бұрын
The referenced, flat bench top takes the place of the winding sticks. I prefer it because the entire perimeter is revealed at the same time, no multiple placements for the sticks needed; it is true that the sticks would prevent the board flipping, but seeing and understanding the entire surface as a whole is critical. When surveying the board's surface, I try to see it as I would see the lie of a golf fairway -- the entire surface has undulations whose relationships to one another change as the high spots get knocked down. That said, I am watching this to learn from an expert, I am just a duffer. However, it seems like the board is starting off in pretty good shape and would be inclined to pick up the jointer much sooner than happened in this vid because after knocking off the initial 2 or 3 minor high spots, the scrubbing started a process of chasing the board's imperfections to different locations. Rob's mastery is what prevents that chasing from getting out of hand.
@imortaldeadead
@imortaldeadead 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic walk through, and I love that it was not just a little piece. Was good to see someone showing us how to work on a big slab 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Will the next one be on how to make the slabs out of a log?
@martydyll1184
@martydyll1184 6 жыл бұрын
Sooo.... Why no hockey wraps on your plane handles?
@SparkeyDogfish
@SparkeyDogfish 4 жыл бұрын
So Rob, do you buy a scrub blade for the Stanley or do you grind a regular blade? Do you need to do anything to the plane besides change the blade?
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about a regular scrub plane or turning a bench plane into a scrub plane?
@SparkeyDogfish
@SparkeyDogfish 4 жыл бұрын
Bench to scrub
@lgriffee932
@lgriffee932 7 жыл бұрын
can you just flatten the whole face at once to get a flat surface with a no. 8 instead of guessing where the high spots are? just wondering?
@jerryhubbard4461
@jerryhubbard4461 4 жыл бұрын
The work bench has to be dead on level. Nice job.
@_dooley
@_dooley 4 жыл бұрын
Could you have used winding sticks to help, more accurately, find the high points? Anyone know?
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
winding stick identify end to end twist. Bumps are better found with the plane in hand held on its edge and dragged end to end.
@SparkeyDogfish
@SparkeyDogfish 4 жыл бұрын
How many HP on your saw and planner? Kind of head on the planner? Sorry for so many questions.
@RobCosmanWoodworking
@RobCosmanWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
3 on the saw, 5 on the planer (now 10) and a byrd segmented head.
@andrewbrimmer1797
@andrewbrimmer1797 Жыл бұрын
Can a bump in the middle almost seem like a twist?
@DanielWahlig
@DanielWahlig 7 жыл бұрын
Curious on your thoughts between this technique vs a simple router planing jig? I always appreciate the hand tool approach, but it seems like just shimming up the board and then running a router over one face would eliminate most of the guesswork. Just as a cheaper/somewhat-faster alternative to hand planes. Curious if you think the hand tool approach has benefits over a router sled other than less dust/noise, or if it's just equal alternative. Great video as always!
@CurrDogg420
@CurrDogg420 7 жыл бұрын
I think you'd be amazed how fast a sharp scrub plane can scoot through the wood. I don't believe "speed" is a clear advantage to the router sled method - it's a lot closer to a "toss up". That being said, with the method shown here, you're only surfacing the board just enough to run it through the stationary planer. With a router sled, you'd probably have to do an entire side first.
@DanielWahlig
@DanielWahlig 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed - the router sled isn't excessively fast (thus me saying "somewhat-faster") and you would need to do the entire side, yes. That said - you could do the entire side in 5-10 mins versus the half hour or so here. All depends on how deformed the board is, I suppose. Both methods definitely are great to know - the router sled version is just an alternative for folks that don't already have a bunch of hand planes, but do have a router. The hand plane method is definitely more therapeutic, though.
@SuperBardley
@SuperBardley 7 жыл бұрын
Might be faster in certain ways, but remember, with a hand plane one plops the board down against the dog, picks up the plane, and goes to town. In the mean time, one must unbox the router, install the correct bit, plop the board down, anchor the board, prepare/install router into the router jig, determine the correct router depth setting, set the correct router depth, connect router to proper dust collection, plug it in. NOW start routing at the rate of a 3/4" crosswise pass X 1/16" depth. Meanwhile, the handplane has made a number of passes and might well be nearly finished.
@rlevitta
@rlevitta 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen various other methods to do this - although not with such a large board. They all use the same idea which is to use a flat sled, onto which the board is affixed, and then use various ways to shim the board so that it doesn't rock when putting it through the planer. Isn't the point not so much to make the underside flat as to make the board not move around as it goes through the planer? Search for "jointing with a planer"
@williambranham6249
@williambranham6249 5 жыл бұрын
no just the highest areas
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