Plant Dip for Snails: Bleach, Alum & Copper Comparison

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Girl Talks Fish

Girl Talks Fish

5 жыл бұрын

I'll admit it: I don’t like snails. 🐌 There's lots of online methods for getting rid of hitchhikers from aquarium plants, so which one should you use? Check out my 1-month experiment testing bleach, alum, and copper plant dips to find out what works on both snails AND snail eggs. Topics include:
▶ Criteria for plant dip experiment
▶ Description of plant quarantine setup
▶ Plant dipping instructions for bleach, alum, and copper medication
▶ Highlights from my experiment journal
▶ Results and BEEP rating
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@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
*What method do you use to get rid of unwanted hitchhikers on your aquarium plants?* Comment below to share your experiences, and subscribe if you want to see more this videos like this! goo.gl/4q2idY
@vc400
@vc400 5 жыл бұрын
Pea puffers! No survivors left...
@MartinsKajins
@MartinsKajins 5 жыл бұрын
My Pet snails are eating snails
@katiemusnicki9592
@katiemusnicki9592 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't do anything and have a tank full of pond snails. They don't bother me too much but occasionally I do have to scoop out a few or they over run the tank! I will definitely do the alum method in the future.
@shibhinbabuc367
@shibhinbabuc367 2 жыл бұрын
Can we try alum on moss?
@Boo-pv4hn
@Boo-pv4hn Жыл бұрын
Can you please run this test specifically for the Planira and detritus worms, I’ve been told to use alum to treat those and given this video as a suggestion of how I’d like to know on your tests which Would be the best for this clearly Not copper 😅 which means the parasite treatment option is pointless
@RotaryBuddha
@RotaryBuddha 5 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best and most information driven video about this subject. Not just talking about it, but actually showing the process and results. Thank you very much.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This experiment video isn't really that popular compared to my other videos so I wasn't sure if anyone liked it, but I personally learned a lot through the process. :)
@davidgonzales-ec8bo
@davidgonzales-ec8bo 5 жыл бұрын
I am blown away by the quality of this video. It's like a very expensive professional production video. I wanted to watch it because my daughter hates snails, and true your advice is golden. On the other hand, the production quality of this video is mind blowing. No joke. You really out to think about going into this sort of thing for a living. WOW!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! That truly means a lot to me. I hope I can keep improving and upping my game for my viewers. 😊
@Marioscorneraquatics
@Marioscorneraquatics 24 күн бұрын
@@GirlTalksFishreading this comment in 2024 and she made it a career. Nice
@grimworm
@grimworm 5 жыл бұрын
This vid needs more views! So far, the BEST vid on how to keep aquarium plants snail-free. Thank you Gamer's wife for taking the time to show us the process and results of your experiments, highly appreciated and shall be shared!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I find it super helpful as well. I need to set up part 2 of these tests one day, but right I'm committed to doing some cycling experiments and I only have so mch space. :P
@mallerysmith8434
@mallerysmith8434 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent experiment! Happy you took the time to do this study!
@ABTFC
@ABTFC 3 жыл бұрын
I love this woman. I'm a newbie so of coarse I spend way to much time researching on youtube. The face you made (hilarious) on the video intro and the word snails made me look. I didn't watch it then, but it stayed on my mind so naturally when I bought my first 7 plants I knew I had to dip them first as I always error on the side of caution when starting a new hobby or adventure. Low and behold the 7 beautiful plants I received from a very popular online store had some little odd orange color tiny pebble looking things around my Java Fern pot and I noticed a stringy white thing that almost looked like a root next to my Anubias Golden Coin and I thought all crap. Luckily I had them all in my 10G plant holding tank while I was working on the theme of my 1st 15G planted tank. I went back and found your video which was easy since I'm a happy subscriber :) Alum it is and I was just in the grocery store earlier..if only I knew then..lol Thanks again and your da best :)
@FishmanEricRussell
@FishmanEricRussell 5 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed both your presentation and experiment. Well done.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope to one day test some more plant dips in the future.
@JG-vn5fe
@JG-vn5fe 5 жыл бұрын
Your video was recommended to me by Greg Sage. I asked him if worms and parasites can be introduced to our aquariums on new plants and he said, "Yes." I had never considered horrible parasites being introduced into our aquariums, not only with new fish, but also new plants. ~ I DO like snails, but I'm concerned now, with how to quarantine new plants, to kill parasites. I have recently had an outbreak of Callamanus Worms and Greg has been very helpful teaching me how to treat this. Although I quarantine all new fish, with Aquarium Co-op's Quarantine trio, it doesn't kill Callamanus Worms. Once I get rid of these horrible red worms, I don't EVER want Callamanus Worms again!! Perhaps we have more to fear, on new plants, than just snails :o( ~ Your video is EXCELLENT and very professional! Thank you!!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Oh I love Greg Sage! So glad to hear he was able to help you with callamanus worms - they sound absolutely horrid. Glad you enjoyed the video; hopefully I'll be able to do some more experiments and release a part 2. :)
@rm709
@rm709 5 жыл бұрын
Just had to comment that this is a great and well presented video. Very impressed with your experiment- thanks for taking the time to do this!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I know it helped clear up things for me personally since I've always heard so many contradicting statements about these plant dips.
@bat8512
@bat8512 2 жыл бұрын
Irene - i went back into the archives for help with a snail outbreak. Your videos are so valuable! Thank you!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help! 🐌🔥
@xiaojlv614
@xiaojlv614 4 жыл бұрын
Like your experiments, very professional and informative!
@DeanRendar
@DeanRendar 3 жыл бұрын
Now that is a thorough tutorial, well done. I'm informed and know exactly what to do next, this is the standard we all should aspire for when people rely on people for quandaries they need help on. I am at the pet stores getting all exchanges on the 4 live plants and dumped my tank in the backyard lawn, let em deal with that scorching sun, they ruined my aqua plant scape with brown rot everywhere so I tipped over their world. Maybe that wild backyard frog will make use.
@RetroMongoose
@RetroMongoose 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you this is the best video for getting rid of snails and snail eggs. No one had the answer fully! I appreciate this video thank you!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I totally need to get more snail-infested java fern and do a follow-up video with more methods.
@FishEZ
@FishEZ 2 жыл бұрын
Another Great video Irene! thanks for the update from the last video.
@BigTroubleD
@BigTroubleD 2 жыл бұрын
You are a GODDESS for doing this! I just noticed a snail infestation and I ripped all my newly bought plants out. I’m immediately doing the 3 day alum treatment on them!
@darrenridley6144
@darrenridley6144 5 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the best vids I've seen on this issue. Well done and thank you.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I hope to follow it up with more experiments in part 2 some day.
@annahang3616
@annahang3616 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Just bought Alum & started the dipping process yesterday!!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Yay, good luck with your new plants!
@jessegee179
@jessegee179 3 жыл бұрын
Great test! Please do more tests on new plants for parasites and bacteria, algae and anything else 👍👍👍👍 Buying new plants is a real gamble. Supply chains are having a tough time in the UK, brexit and covid have affected supply of Tropica plants which have been reliable for me. I have bought plants from other places, and despite rinsing them, and looking at them carefully, I have had a recent outbreak of snails, hydra, planaria and bba! Ive also been feeding more live food, and I’ve narrowed down small mistakes, like removing some floating plants, and feeding wafers on substrate instead of in a feeding dish. It’s alarming after my two tanks have been doing so well. Thanks! 💕
@akahina
@akahina 4 жыл бұрын
I got some Red Root Floaters on Etsy after looking for a long time. They came with bladder snails and eggs. 😕 I decided to use alum in the stronger dose for 3 hours on about a third of them in case the plants were sensitive. Interestingly the alum bleached the red roots to white! The plants are growing just fine but I now have White Root Floaters. LOL LOVE YOUR CHANNEL! Keep up the great work.
@liferenewal
@liferenewal 3 жыл бұрын
Oh this is so helpful. Thanks for this! :)
@Bonjovicrzy
@Bonjovicrzy 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Irene Thank you so much for this video , I always wanted live plants but no snails .. but with this video I got some Alum and bought some plants from Aquarium Co-op I now have 6 plants if they survive .. The Alum does work there was a few not many snails .. and I have them in quartine to be sure there no eggs or babies Thank you for all your videos and information it is helping this plant beginner allot Bless you
@---lr6qc
@---lr6qc 4 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video with great information, thanks! Would love to see you test an aquarium or kosher salt solution in the future.
@joshuaadam6022
@joshuaadam6022 4 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!! What an incredible experiment! I can't thank you enough.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Glad it was worth it. :)
@joshuaadam6022
@joshuaadam6022 4 жыл бұрын
@@GirlTalksFish Absolutely! I am definitely pro snail, except in my bare bottom tanks. My dad just gave me a huge portion of java moss and I want to put it in one of those tanks, however it was infested with snails so this information is exactly what I needed right now! You are awesome!
@erikalsgaard6836
@erikalsgaard6836 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Jondol
@Jondol 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this!
@bethnoirable
@bethnoirable 4 жыл бұрын
I quite like snails, as long as I don't get a population explosion. I always think it's a good way to know if you're over-feeding. BUT I am just so impressed with your experiment! So clear and helpful.
@Cryptillian
@Cryptillian 5 жыл бұрын
Can I just say, THANK YOU for this video. I really needed some more info on how to kill off snails because a lot of people who didn’t rinse their plants got them from the sellers I am buying from. Just got in some java moss that is mostly healthy, came in slightly brown, examined and found ONE single egg. Going to do a strong alum soak for a few hours to see if it gives any results!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, let me know how it goes and if the egg turns bright white!
@sarahfitzgerald6386
@sarahfitzgerald6386 3 жыл бұрын
I am team: KILL WITH FIRE! Thank you soo much for this video! I've tried many methods and nothing worked, then I tried alum and it worked perfectly! I love your channel, keep up the great work :)
@delphinelumen
@delphinelumen 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!
@katiemusnicki9592
@katiemusnicki9592 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for doing the science for us😁
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. :)
@skincareaddicted
@skincareaddicted 4 жыл бұрын
Great experiment
@BamAquatics
@BamAquatics 5 жыл бұрын
Great information. That is what I will use in the future.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Give it a shot, for sure! I want to do a part 2 to try potassium permanganate and other solutions, but we'll see if there's enough interest.
@thomashutchings5215
@thomashutchings5215 5 жыл бұрын
We've used bleach on Java fern and anubias and it was successful. Plants are still going strong around two months after treatment. We used alum rocks broken up with mortar and pestle and soaked for 6+ hours. Last time, used powered alum ( from Krogers, like you), and soaked same amount of time, a little over six hours. We prefer alum, either crushed or powdered form, wait for it, tra la laaaaaa. Very good video and methodology. Thanks.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Lol! Glad you enjoyed my little experiment. Love the Captain Underpants reference. 😂
@misstragic7535
@misstragic7535 5 жыл бұрын
So in theory i only need to quarantine plants for 3 days in Alum ? This is going by your experiments.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Yup! In a concise form, here are the instructions: Prepare a soak of 1-2 Tbsp of alum (found in spice section of grocery store) per gallon of water. Soak for 2-4 days in the bucket, then rinse well before adding to tank. Gets rid of snails and snail eggs (and planaria apparently). Optional: quarantine the plants for a month to make sure parasites are gone.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 3 жыл бұрын
@Yu Yao It was probably a teaspoon because that's all that would fit in the alum jar, but the total amount is 1 tablespoon or 15 ml.
@GRich-nl8ks
@GRich-nl8ks 4 жыл бұрын
Got to admit, the thumb nail threw me off. Finally clicked video and DAMN was i happy I did. An awesome test. Love the side by side comparison. Great video and very informative. Thank you. Edit: new subscriber here also 😁
@TimsBitsnPieces
@TimsBitsnPieces 4 жыл бұрын
WOW, I've never heard of Alum before and I'm pro snails they are in all of my tanks and I sell them ;). I have been told (here in Australia) that if you want to eradicate snails and eggs on newly purchased plants, you can use a small amount of Seachem Flourish Excel and use a paint brush to brush the Excel onto the leaves of the plants, leave for approx 5 mins, then rinse with clean tap water. They can then be placed into the tank as normal. Seachem Flourish Excel is also useful for the removal of blackbeard algae used in the same format as described.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 4 жыл бұрын
Oh interesting! Thanks for sharing that method; I'd never heard of it. :)
@probablynotabigtoe9407
@probablynotabigtoe9407 5 жыл бұрын
Ty for the experiment I didn’t know about Alum! You should revisit with a salt dip, prob similar results to bleach or copper. I’m glad I finally found your channel, gives me hope in humanity.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'd love to do a part 2 with this experiment someday! Glad you like my channel; let me know if there's any topics you'd like me to see. :)
@LadyKej
@LadyKej 5 жыл бұрын
Awsome, thank you!!! I had written alum off because it didn't work for me. But now I realize you have to soak it for three days. I will definitely do this with my next plant purchase.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
I've actually been trying a stronger concentration of alum for 3 hours, and it seems to work as well. Do you mind letting me know what concentration and soaking time you used previously and why it didn't work? Would love to make a Part 2 to this video someday.
@exitthemachine6208
@exitthemachine6208 4 жыл бұрын
@Girl Talks Fish what is your new concentration? Did you just add more or did you get a different brand?
@dymone4894
@dymone4894 5 жыл бұрын
I'm more team in-between. I originally added a couple small snails to mine and my wife's aquariums to keep algae down. They multiplied so quickly it was unbelievable. I had to do a complete tear down of both tanks and used a bleach soak on everything. My advantage was only having fake plants at the time and soaked everything for 2 hours. I now have Nerite snails in both tanks and love them. They are great for algae control and do not breed in freshwater. I will be using your Alum dip for live plants.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Nice compromise! Nerite snails are so beautiful too. I'm more of a shrimp person myself, so that's what I ended up using for algae control.
@RVVideosShowtime
@RVVideosShowtime 5 жыл бұрын
very great experiment. like it :)
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! It took a long time but was totally worth it to share the info with everyone. :)
@mistaskate8715
@mistaskate8715 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very well done experiment. One I feel I can really trust. So after destroying so many plants with other methods I will now happily try Alum!
@obtainingmercycroft
@obtainingmercycroft 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Gamer's Wife. We've been subscribed for a few months now, and are thoroughly enjoying your channel. We just set up a new tank over the weekend and were fully prepared to do the dreaded bleach dip on all the plants we were moving from our 10- and 20- gallon tanks, as they are infested with pond snails. At the very last minute, I decided to do ONE more search on the subject and found your video. Your experiment was very well documented and easily understood. Thank you for that! We did use the alum, doing the 3-hour dip method that I found recommended elsewhere. We dipped java moss, hornwort, ruffle swords, moneywort, wisteria, vesuvius and one more that I can't remember right now. The eggs in the eggsacs all turned white, just like they did for you. I will try to come back in a few weeks and let you know if it indeed killed them all. It did kill all the live snails. So THANK YOU for your video! It was so much easier to use the alum than to deal with bleach and it's been 3 days and my plants still look awesome.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 4 жыл бұрын
That's so awesome to hear! Yes, I use the 3-hour dip method as well nowadays and so far haven't had any issues. Best of luck with all your new plants. :)
@obtainingmercycroft
@obtainingmercycroft 4 жыл бұрын
@@GirlTalksFish I'm sorry to tell you that the 2.5 hour dip did not work for me. I already have snails in my new tank & haven't even added the fish yet. I'm so sad about that. I think I will still try the alum dip again, but for a longer period of time. We've popped our assassin snails into the tank & wished them "Happy Feasting!"
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 4 жыл бұрын
@@obtainingmercycroft Oh dear! Thanks for letting me know. Ok I may have to go back to the longer dip too then.
@PunchiePaints
@PunchiePaints 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting . Alum is pretty old school. I remember using alum to soak plants before putting them in my aquarium 50 years ago. Another one that I have been hearing about is Tea Tree Oil. Am curious is that works or not. Anyway, great video :)
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I had no idea about alum's long history! Ok I'll definitely look into tea tree oil next. Let me know if you have a favorite recipe I should consider. :)
@PhilMargolies
@PhilMargolies 5 жыл бұрын
This video is a keeper🙏👍. I have java fern and Italian val in my tank. The val never did well with the bleach dip. Now using alum to pre-soak all plants as well as when algae gets out of hand. Thanks!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
I've actually never tested alum on algae before (just snails), so let me know how it goes!
@PhilMargolies
@PhilMargolies 5 жыл бұрын
@@GirlTalksFish Will do.👍 I have used bleach in a 1 : 19 ratio, which definitely works to get rid of algae, but even my java fern seems like they aren't too happy after this. I found the steps on the fishlore forum. 3 tbsp alum to 1 gallon water, soak for 4 hours, rub off algae after it turns white. After dip, soak in dechlorinated water for 30 minutes, then rinse again in dechlorinated water, then return to tank.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
@@PhilMargolies Ooo, that's great to hear! Going to definitely try that the next time I have algae-covered plants.
@timothyleclair8450
@timothyleclair8450 3 жыл бұрын
I hate all the snails. I pretty much know all of this but I needed a good review, great video.
@whatever833
@whatever833 4 жыл бұрын
would love to see this test again with less sensitive plants
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 4 жыл бұрын
Great point! Since alum performed the best, I've used it exclusively to dip all my new plants - including floating plants, moss, crypts, hygrophilia, water sprite, tiger lotus, Brazilian pennywort, etc. - and they've all survived the procedure. I'm very pleased with it as a snail deterrent. 👍
@maxcheese163
@maxcheese163 2 жыл бұрын
snails are adorable and i love em- BUT those flatworms made me shiver
@hectormarrero518
@hectormarrero518 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the videos you make. They are so helpful to me. I have one question can this method Māori with driftwood?
@RoundhouseAquatics
@RoundhouseAquatics 5 жыл бұрын
i found hot water from the faucet works fill up a bucket and dip the pants in about 5 to 10 times the hot water shocks the snails and they fall off - it has worked for me with water lettuce
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Oh interesting! I have never tried heat before; thanks for sharing.
@StanLeeGhost
@StanLeeGhost 3 жыл бұрын
what about the eggs?
@no-knickers-emma1112
@no-knickers-emma1112 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't use Kosher salt in your experiment. Great video by the way. I'm desperate for a certain Crypt to be added to my snail free tank. Just worried that 30 days in just water could kill it. I buy my plants in Vitro now but you can't always get the ones you want.
@ErikaKrisanti
@ErikaKrisanti 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyouuuuuu 🥰
@JeremyGoneWildPets
@JeremyGoneWildPets 5 жыл бұрын
This is an amazingly well put together video and thorough experiment. Great job! Personally I keep my snails. I’ve found them to be effective against algae. I also have puffers, and a snail infestation is a free puffer food source for me.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I used to have a snail grow-out tank for my puffers. They're like popcorn for fish. 🍿🐡
@tristanmelgarejo4197
@tristanmelgarejo4197 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, I enjoy snails in a tank with a balanced bioload. They really keep the algae off of the plants in a heavily planted tank, and are quite good at eating everything that is decaying, including fish poop. Although, it is quite difficult to find the perfect bioload to plant load, to nutrient load and so forth... once you get there, it's excellent and the snails are a great addition and no longer a pest.
@FishVet
@FishVet 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, nothing is eating the fish poop. Your plants are what are utilizing the fish poop, breaking it down into useful parts. The snails will eat other things like algae and decaying plant matter, sure, but they won't eat fish poop. Otherwise people would never have to clean their unplanted tanks, and just add snails! But I agree that snails can be beneficial. I plan to remove the bladder snails that have come on my plants because the paludarium I'm setting up is going to be a specific biotope that bladder snails are not native to, otherwise I wouldn't care as much, as I think bladder snails are actually quite interesting!
@Ara-iw7xm
@Ara-iw7xm 4 жыл бұрын
This video is great! I do have a few questions on the alum method however. First, while soaking the plant in alum do you use chlorinator? Also the brand of alum I bought (McCormick) is definitely not a cornstarch consistency. It looks more like how aquarium salt looks but with smaller grains. Will this affect the efficiency? Thank you!
@cmaddog
@cmaddog 4 жыл бұрын
Does the Alum dip work with stem plants also? Is 3 days the minimum or did you ever test 2 days? Thanks for the great info!
@Balatac
@Balatac 4 жыл бұрын
HEADS UP: HORNWORT WILL NOT SURVIVE THE ALUM METHOD AS DESCRIBED HERE. I am starting to put in some plants in my tanks. I was looking for ways to sterilize them and did a saltwater dip from the instructions (1C of aquarium salt in 1 Gal. of H2O, then dip the leaves for 20 secs. and then rinse) that I saw on KZfaq and online. It was for the first batch of plants that I got. I did Jungle Val, water sprite and a Dwarf Sag. Only the Sprite survived. My Vals all melted away and the Sags that "survived" barely have any greens left. That's why I asked Aquarium Coop for advice and they referred me to your video. I initially wanted to try the bleach method before I got my plants. And changed my mind to the Alum one when I saw your video. I did your Alum method as described here which is excellent. I had Anubias, Hornwort, Sags, Crypts, Java Ferns. I did the full 3 days. And when it was time to rinse it, the hornwort was just a pile of "needles" at the bottom of the container. The only thing left floating was its main stem. The other plants I believe did survive this alum method. They still looked fine last night when I was rinsing them. Now I got them for further quarantine. Maybe if I did the Alum for a shorter time frame on the hornwort. Maybe, IDK. A lot of what-ifs. But yeah don't do the Alum for 3 days on hornworts. It will kill them.
@laurenhanna3233
@laurenhanna3233 3 жыл бұрын
Have you experienced leeches yet? I just had the unpleasant experience of finding a few in my tank and they dive so deep into the substrate that they can't be picked out. I'm going to take the substrate out and dry it but I want to make sure there are no eggs on my plants. Any tips? Have you tried alum baths on leeches before?
@NessysSanctuary
@NessysSanctuary 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old one. I for the most part like snails but there are tanks that I do not want them. I do not want them anyway near or in my shrimp tanks they end up out competing my shrimp for food. I like the Alum method as it is the most natural the copper one I would not use as I will forget what plant has been treated I also have shrimp so cant risk it. Thank you for taking the time to do this
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I really should do a part 2 to this video since people seem to really like this experiment.
@paolar9381
@paolar9381 4 жыл бұрын
Every plant i bought from PetSmart had snails despite the label saying "snail-free" :/ glad i found this
@ScooterFXRS
@ScooterFXRS 5 жыл бұрын
This was well done. I would have liked to see how H2O2 and KMnO4 would have worked.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I totally want to do a part 2 to this experiment! I actually tried a 1:1 ratio of 3% H2O2 and water on a delicate stem plant, and it did eliminate the snails while not harming the plant. Not sure if it's effective on snail eggs though, so need to get some more java fern from Greg Sage to officially conduct the experiment. :)
@sarayparay
@sarayparay 3 жыл бұрын
Please do not change how you do your videos! Super informative and I am a visual learner! Do you have a how to plant different types of plants video? lol Anyways, thank you for this!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, I don't have a video for this yet, but I should make one. Here is a blog post I made about that very topic: www.aquariumcoop.com/blogs/aquarium/how-to-plant
@sarayparay
@sarayparay 3 жыл бұрын
@@GirlTalksFish Thank you very much! I'm going to look into it.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarayparay My pleasure!
@eugeniovazquez7444
@eugeniovazquez7444 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video , you should try the same method but only on attack algae
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I need to make an anti-algae video soon! :)
@high_fructose_corn_syrup
@high_fructose_corn_syrup Жыл бұрын
What about fish parasites that hitch rides from plants? What do you recommend for that without killing the plants? I tried potassium permanganate on water lettuce and water hyacinths for my koi pond. That didnt go well at all. They never bounced back. Now that im getting back into tropical fish tanks, id like to have live plants but would like to know whats the best way to treat the plants without killing them.
@jupiedits
@jupiedits 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I did not know alum can kill snails also potassium-alum crystal/powder is used as deodorant so be prepared for the smirks when you buy alum crystals from the pharmacy. Lastly there is a running joke that potassium-alum powder looks like cocaine.
@KileOnasi
@KileOnasi 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know if the plants will be safe for the snails i DO want in my aquarium after treatment?
@seestheday101
@seestheday101 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of pest snails but my nerite snail in my 5 gallon beta tank keeps the algae down so I like him.
@wesm.3481
@wesm.3481 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a bunch of plants about a month ago and felt like I checked them over enough that I didn't want or need to dip them. They were all fairly small and I figured there couldn't be much if anything on such small plants. Today I finally saw a bladder snail. I pulled it out and killed it and checked the whole tank trying to find any others but haven't yet. I hate the idea of pest snails. My next plant order is shipping soon and you bet I'll be dipping them in alum. I'm guessing post alum you also added ferts to that clean water?
@saktah
@saktah 3 жыл бұрын
Dear girl talks fish, I did 3 days alum dip and my new floating plants seem to be dying/brown leaves after I cleaned them off and put them in my new cycling tank. I am cycling with ammonium chloride and the water test ammonia nitrite readings got way high. I wonder if that could be the reason for the floating plants to die off? Anything I can help with that? I did put Seachem flourish ferts.
@eh9918
@eh9918 4 жыл бұрын
Like nerite snails for cleaning, mystery snail...although kinda dirty, dont like little pest snails like the mini ramshorn or pond snails.
@drag0nfire198
@drag0nfire198 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do an experiment on what will kill worms and worm eggs? I assume what will kill a snail will kill other unwanted guests but I'm curious for some good data. I'm thinking specifically for freshwater leaches, tubafex or black worms- you know the ones that will turn your dirted tank into a mud box.
@dominiquesalmond5074
@dominiquesalmond5074 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question- I have a Betta and also bought a tiger snail in a 3 gallon take(I'm in process of buying a bigger tank) and now I found 2 small bladder snails, now many times a week should I do a water change? I Normally do it one a week but I do a 50% change. I'm new to this!
@GoodSamaritan1972
@GoodSamaritan1972 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to go off topic but is your tap water hard or soft...please? And.....do you think Alum works well against any bacterial infections in our fish tank?
@MrDorf007
@MrDorf007 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you...can I use ALUM in my tank with a established plants/fish/cycled ? Will it be at all harmful to my tank with the exception of those pesky pond snails ?
@BritishAlbedo
@BritishAlbedo 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! A young fishkeeper currently seeking urgent advice! I wanted to try out a planted setup for my betta fish and moved too quickly. Few weeks later I see wiggly worms, algae everywhere and white debris (eggs?) freely floating. First plant I have is amazon frogbit, I plopped in all the floaters without even cleaning them (mostly because I didn’t know how to specifically clean those.) I stressed that was a dumb move but I didn’t think that much about it. Second plant was Anubis and I used hydrogen peroxide, diluted it with fish tank water a little. I scrubbed it off well so I doubt it came from the Anubis but it’s a possibility. Any idea on how I could get rid of it anyone? This will honestly help me a ton as I love my betta a lot and it would kill me to lose him. Tank information: Volume: 5 gal Filter and heater: yes (heater is at the required temp) Plants: Amazon frogbit, Anubis (both from separate stores) Cycled: I cannot tell as my tests reads as 0 mostly if not that ammonia is a little on the yellow-green side on the API results. 1 cartridge out of 2 is usually replaced monthly. Tests: last time I checked my PH is 7.5-7.6 Amonnia is a little on the yellow-green side everything else is 0 Sorry for this random comment with possibly terrible grammar I was in a hurry. Any advice is greatly appreciated!! 🙏🙏
@corgijungle4288
@corgijungle4288 Жыл бұрын
after you dip plants in alum is it safe to put them in a shrimp tank?
@suvendusamal8770
@suvendusamal8770 4 жыл бұрын
love ur voice
@nobodyinparticular5346
@nobodyinparticular5346 5 жыл бұрын
Team snail! Snails easily help with getting a nice ecosystem in your tank, and can help break down food and eat algae. They are also way more hardy than shrimp (just not as pretty lol)
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, very true! Shrimp aren't as good at cleaning glass either IMO.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, very true! Shrimp aren't as good at cleaning glass either IMO.
@candy9229
@candy9229 3 жыл бұрын
Do I put de-chlorinated water with the Alum or just plain tap water?
@finickybits8055
@finickybits8055 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorta Team Snail. I got a single bladder (pond, pest) snail and a mini-ramshorn in some plants at one point, and I've been happy to let them do their thing. Except their thing is now asexual reproduction, so now I have many mini versions of both. I may be Team Kill-Them-All soon... Regarding your plant dipping...I've heard/read(?) that especially with a bleach dip, don't do the roots/rhizomes? But, judging by your experiment and bleach efficacy (or lack thereof), the point seems to be moot. Awesome video regardless, and now I'll be picking up some alum!
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I hope it works out for you! I hope to eventually release a part 2 to test more stuff, including a 3-hour version of the alum dip. 😃
@probablynotabigtoe9407
@probablynotabigtoe9407 5 жыл бұрын
I love snails... and I love puffer fish and assassin snails. R.I.P. my GSP e died with my 14inch Columbian catsharks, Dragon goby, and mono’s... when I forgot to plug heater back in. Mr. GSP had such a good personality and had the time of his life when I let him live In my 10g shrimp tank for a week( he was so fat the whole time lol)
@futuredog1084
@futuredog1084 3 жыл бұрын
Is Aluminum Sulphate the same thing? I can't find alum at the grocery but saw aluminum Sulphate in the plant section/! Gardening
@hirwanasgal2556
@hirwanasgal2556 5 жыл бұрын
Alum..thank you memm
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Glad to help. :)
@kitten9230
@kitten9230 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to treat the plants for 30 days? or is it alright to treat once then put in? New to live plants. While I have a few tanks i don't care if they get snails. I have one tank that can not have snails in it.
@smallndmighty
@smallndmighty 3 жыл бұрын
Is Alum AL2O3 ? I find it listed as aluminum sulphate not aluminum potassium sulphate are these the same ?
@ixchellovesrainbows4965
@ixchellovesrainbows4965 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on how to get rid of them once in the tank? I've heard no plantara could be an option that is copper free
@luisen1996
@luisen1996 Жыл бұрын
I’ll try soaking in Chlorine once and submerging in Alum for a few weeks
@evanasrin939
@evanasrin939 3 жыл бұрын
Can this process be used for floating plants (water lettuce)??
@MarcassCarcass
@MarcassCarcass 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think cameroon moss would survive an alum dip?
@nourhanateout7187
@nourhanateout7187 2 жыл бұрын
Is alum safe for plants that will go to invert tank?
@veronicariel3985
@veronicariel3985 3 жыл бұрын
Will the alum method work on driftwood? 😊
@faithjoe99
@faithjoe99 3 жыл бұрын
I had a snail once my brother found it in a swamp and before I knew it there where tons of snails I was soo happy when they were gone they are soo gross
@ChristIsKing187
@ChristIsKing187 Жыл бұрын
Wonder how a alum dip followed by levamisole/fenbenzedole would work.
@wxlurker
@wxlurker 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Has anyone tried this experiment with potassium permanganate?
@erikm8372
@erikm8372 2 жыл бұрын
You know, I may try an experiment like this myself; I usually swear by dirted tanks and water changes. It's my "magic" ingredient - Foxfarm Ocean Forest (organic) soil. Thus, I was thinking, why not put dirt (or some substrate) in the bottom of the tubs? Cover with gravel, like a mini dirted tank... but for quarantining. No need for any special lighting either, for my experiment. If you use dirt in ANY tank, I kid you not - only bright indirect light is necessary. I've grown vividly red Alternanthera reineckii, in soil, with only ambient window light! Not to mention the swords, crypts, crinums, microswords...the nutrients in the dirt seem to rule out the need for higher light and co2. Not saying you WANT to be doing this, but I have had 110% success. Mostly though, I do have moderate lights with dirt, never had co2 or needed it. That could change. I digress... This is SLIGHTLY more work, I know, but my choice. I'm thinking that it gives the plants a chance to get growing, & develop some healthy new roots, before being planted. Maybe the nutrients will beef up the plants a bit more? I think it's no surprise your Vallisneria didn't do too well, anything that requires nutrients in the soil will likely fail without dirt. I don't know how people grow plants successfully in sand, or by root tabs, or just dosing the water column. Do they have CO2? Many times no they don't. So, is it the T5 HO lights?? JK. I know lights are more important than CO2, in the end...but dirt! DIRT DIRT DIRT!! lol
@rneil1241
@rneil1241 3 жыл бұрын
Would you put alum in an established tank with no live stock in it? Debating on taking all fish and shrimp out then blasting the tank with alum
@dinolandia8978
@dinolandia8978 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that you can also use snail leeches - leeches that apparently only attack snails. But I don't know if this would be replacing one problem with another.
@GirlTalksFish
@GirlTalksFish 3 жыл бұрын
I saw that on Foo the Flowerhorn's channel! And he said that the leeches die out when there are no more snails to eat. 😲
@dawnbakerowski5491
@dawnbakerowski5491 3 жыл бұрын
Would alum kill the snail and other things off of subwassertang without kill that plant. Cause they say you can't do dips on them?? I'll be watching for you to do update on subwassertang .
@gmann4228
@gmann4228 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, but I found it too late. Unfortunately I now have snails all over my yard. How do I get rid of them?
@THEprincessFirefly
@THEprincessFirefly 3 жыл бұрын
Team Snail! I adore them and have 6 bladder snails.
@2001kbass
@2001kbass 3 жыл бұрын
What substrate is in the tank featured in the video?
@chrisl1398
@chrisl1398 3 жыл бұрын
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