I love that there's no apparent limit to cursor scaling, I can just wiggle my mouse and have a giant pixart Hatsune Miku

It's pretty hilarious watching this video hours after I reviewed and merged like 5 fixes for issues you talked about lol. Most are fixed already in 6.1.1 and 6.1.2! Please do report the multiscreen maximized NVIDIA glitch though. I haven't seen any existing bug reports for it.

The clicking in the blurred parts to exit edit mode is most likely to mimic what people expect out of a modal dialog say a website pops up for settings or something. It dims the background and you're supposed to be able to click out of the modal to dismiss it, so having that here as well makes sense, I can see a lot of people defaulting to that

The cursor bug is the Mario 64 glitch that made it into Plasma 6.1

Don't know why but I find the "when X cursor was made people weren't magnifying cursors" incredibly funny

@5:58 this was one of the things that just felt SO RIGHT to me, I didn't think about it and it worked as I expected. It is really cool how your experience is different!! Goes to show how "difficult" UX/UI can be.

Hyprcursor strikes again

I wish kwin devs would finally fix the issue that causes global font blurring when using kwin effects such as "invert", "high contrast", lightlyshaders(!), and so on while fractional scaling is active. I also miss latte-dock.

Plasma fixes bugs pretty quickly and devs are responsive to complaints. It's completely opposite to Gnome, where they ignore you and if they respond, they tell you, it's all good, even if it's not. It's like talking with idiots. That is one of many reasons why I left Gnome and never looked back. Plasma is addictive ;). I love the shake cursor feature! I had to many times "loosing" the cursor and was wildly shaking it, in hope I will notice it somewhere. Now it's easier. Blurry part will be fixed, so no problem. You forgot about bugs with panel and moving icons on a task manager, but it's known and fixed with the next patch. Ah, what do you know? The patch update 6.1.1 is already waiting to be installed! Great!

I absolutely love KDE plasma. It is probably one of the best computer experiences I have ever had. It isn’t perfect, but definitely better than Windows that plasters ads every where, pushes its own garbage on you, purposefully breaks customization programs. Definitely got its issues, but damn they do good work

Its possible they could have a raster cursor and swap for an SVG automatically depending on which one os required

I can't get my ogg of Never Gonna Give You Up working :/

i love the lack of cursor limit! this is a feature!

Thank you so much for mentioning the edge barrier! I could tell it was a feature but I didn't know what it was called to disable it.

the edge barrier feels momentum-based to me. if I move the cursor quickly between screens it's like it's not even there, but if I move the mouse very delicately then it takes a long time to overcome that barrier. maybe there's a "hidden" speed threshold above which the additional distance you set is ignored, and only when you move your mouse slow enough the distance calculation takes effect I still experience kwin freezing for 1-2ms when opening overview mode via the Meta key as shortcut (modifier-only shortcut), and I have my kwin cache in a tmpfs

Waiting for Plasma 6.9.

Oh, so that's the reason why my top monitor and bottom monitor felt a little sticky on the mouse...

Never used Plasma, but looks very polished and highly customizable, which is great.

I'm not gonna lie, the mouse cursor growing is pretty damn neat when shaking. I don't think they should fix the "bug" as that seems more like a feature if you ask me

From what I understand, the adaptive sync problem occurs on other operating systems as well. When looking to buy my monitor, the review site rtings mentioned flickering with it enabled.

started using KDE sense 4.6 on ChakraOS (which I helped to maintain), and when KDE released their first plasma 6 beta version I started using the git version (still using)...on openSUSE tumbleweed ....yes yes I'm that kind of masochist

I hope they don't add the limit, it's funny. 7:04 Zoom could be locked to the desktop/thing you are looking at. So when the desktop is pushed right, the "camera" follows it.

Do windows really need to fly by at light speed when entering/leaving Edit mode? Or is it an intended jumpscare?

i use lxqt btw

Aight the bell sound for me is now "access denied" XD

So my computer gets wood when i shake my mouse?

Yeah, as someone with eyesight issues, I usually need to use the magnifier. The jumping around can be just a tad bit much, but otherwise, this is shaped up to be an amazing update. If you want my experience as someone who actively uses the zooming feature day to day, I usually, typically, zoom out when messing with widgets anyway.

great work kde team keep doing what you do 6.2 looks gorgeous i couldnt fault your hard work like i did in the past you do what you do best no point judging what you do because you never fail to come through with greatness at the end of the day i wouldnt make an opinionated video since the internet already loves your hard work as much as i do and i know how hard it can be to create applications backends to applications and scripts as thats what i do daily

14:20 Most definitely the screen switches to displaying the window's part of the framebuffer, but the window does not refresh it, leaving the previous image stored there to be displayed. I've seen similar behaviour plenty of times in various desktops by opening apps, usually while the processor is clocked slowly for laptop battery saving. Sometimes I've seen it in apps while the system is not slowing itself down or on my desktop, it's just expected occasional behaviour to me.

I had the QML file error in my laptop, but after an update was fixed. And aside from that, 6.1 is very good and literally no errors.

Ah yes the edge barrier, I noticed that too, seems the intention is that it's not a fixed distance, but rather a number of px with a movement speed multiplier. So for slower movement the distance is much greater and for faster movements the distance is much shorter.

LOL! I thought there was a limit to the cursor zoom, but yer right. Muahahaha just spent 10 minutes getting it bigger than my screens!!

Funnily enough, adaptive sync is working fine for me (6800 XT, AOC Q24G2, Kernel 6.9.6, Plasma 6.1.0). When brightness flickering happens, the issue is either the kernel mode GPU driver or a faulty VRR implementation in the monitor (was quite common with earlier ones). What can also cause problems, is using mangohud and forcing on adaptive sync there while kwin or gamescope also enable it this can cause all sorts of madness, including flickering, laggy mouse cursor and horrid framepacing.

My personal favorite 6.1 feature is the corner barriers. I used to whip my cursor into corners a lot on Windows, and not having this when I switched to Linux was extremely jarring. Now if only we could copy panels between screens...

Perfection for is one of the first things I do: remove Akonadi and the KMail/Kontact Suite stuff. Doesn't come with all distros, but does on Fedora.

awesome video btw! quick question. how did you get your icons for the virtual desktops to look like that on the taskbar. i like that way better because it doesn't take up as much space

Honestly the shaking cursor think is kinda cool ngl. I would prob reduce the max size to like, twice or thrice the cursor size. Also since i barely use the mouse and often am using two monitors, it sure is nice to just quickly find it when i want.

I checked 6.1 out yesterday and I like the new features. My personal favourites are the new edit mode and screen edge barrier. But until per screen workspaces are a thing, I'll hold off on trying to daily drive it.

Another way to get rid of the rightclick menu in system settings is to hover the mouse over it and press Esc

Re: Desktop configuration margins: Clicking out of something to reset it to default mode feels like a natural UX. It's a gut feeling, I can't explain (and shouldn't -- what feels intuitive is what the question is about).

To fix a bug is to create two more

I still have a ton of lockups like this cache bug you're describing. Open dolphin. Super + right to maximise right, system locks up. drag dolphin window off the edge, system locks up. Nothing showing as disk i/o though so I guess something else... Oh... and it's specific to the hell that is wayland 🙄🙄🙄 Works fine on X11

I finally upgraded to Fedora 40 after the last video. Generally really impressed with Plasma 6.1, it seems way more responsive than Plasma 5 which I thought was Wayland, but its just as fast on Xorg. Although Firefox is WAY smoother on Wayland, but I can't use Wayland until Synergy supports it. I do still have Compositing disabled though, as KWin was always less stable with it on in the past. The only thing that threw me is file previews disabled themselves after the upgrade, yet Dolphin still had Preview enabled. Seems odd to have the Preview button there if previews are disabled in settings. Left me thinking something was broken for a couple of days.

the padding can't be in pixels. The density of your monitors is what matters, as two adjacent monitors may either not have the same resolution or not the same scale. Having the zone be displayed on each monitor taking those factors into account would be a nice feature though.

3:53 One time I made the bell the Windows 3.1/95 tada sound. (Used on Windows 3.1 startup and Windows 95 shutdown.) It definitely was a troll! 😂

13:35 I checked my monitor's settings on my gaming PC with Tuxedo OS with Plasma Wayland and I have Adaptive Sync on (MSI MAG342CQR), and not seeing any flickers. Is it possible that its something on your side?

The "grow cursor on shake" is standard on macos.

That ghosting bug of windows has occurred since I upgraded to Plasma 6 (I'd assume .0) so hope it gets fixed, it is not a big deal but is quite annoying when multitasking

The freesync issue might be resolved by setting the monitor to the highest refresh rate it supports. I have this bug with a g-sync monitor.

ah, this is the big update Garuda got :D Linux newbie here and Garuda has been my first distro, the desktop is the Dr460ised version of Plasma and i got the update a few days ago. it works well overall, i'm partially blind so mouse shake is damn useful, and not having every option after selecting shut down or restart is a good change, i don't know if i'm gonna stick with it tho, wanna play around with Fedora and MATE a little XD

first brodie video im watching on sway :3

In Plasma 6.1.1 the cursor isn't that pixly anymore. They made it way smoother. I use the Breeze cursor theme.

Plasma ❤️

Hope Tuxedo updates it to 6.1.1, but so far I’m loving it on my gaming PC I can’t wait for COSMIC, gonna switch my laptop from Kubuntu to Pop!_OS once it’s almost ready.

what about window transparency? is it working nicely in plasma 6? or reusing the desktop wallpaper. Windows terminal has option to use desktop wallpaper as background image. I wish more apps did that other wise i never see the desktop lol

You can't edit tray icon settings when in edit mode Yes I think the cicking in the empty space should be disabled. Desktop panel autohide is broken - it doesn't show when cursor is hovered over)

Desktop flicker/fluttering when freesync/adaptive sync is enabled is a long time issue that they need to fix. I've had it happen on my 4090 but no doubt it just happens all the time if you enable it.

I have been noticing screen flickering with adaptive sync set to Automatic but it only appears if I am looking at a screen share on rustdesk or if the thing I am looking at doesn't match the refresh rate of my screen as for the screen lagging I have experienced that as well and I've been able to fix it by logging in and out of my plasma desktop but it happens randomly that was happening on Plasma 6 and before tho. I am using a RX 7800 XT tho so maybe NVIDIA users now are experiencing the issues AMD users have had.

Plasma seems to rather confident about their cursor enlargement: the bigger the better.

I want custom resolution support. My TV often gets mistaken for 4k30 but once i setup the 4k60 mode, it doesnt realize i have 4k60 until it feels like it. All could be avoided if i could just say "yea i really have 4k60 trust me bro"

@Brodie Robertson how do the hell I switch off applications from launching that i had from last time I turned on my computer KDE 6.1

I never experienced the IO bug before, but that's probably because after installing the OS, I just go into settings to disable all animations. I feel like the animations just slow down my workflow, even if it's just a fraction of a second.

Damn...I may be switching from Cinnamon. I will at least be trying it out. Last time it did feel unusable but I was on older hardware.

6:00 this is most likely for the people that accidentally enter the edit mode. Clicking the empty space to exit edit mode is something people are used to (for example from iOS)

My only real problem in the latest updates to plasma is that windows can fail to drag across virtual desktops. Like, I'll be trying to snap a window to the side, accidentally drag it to desktop 2 and be completely unable to move it back or to desktop 3. Before that my issue was a weird gimmic where windows being focused makes the desktop brighter, so there would be a big change whenever I minimized a window. I think the fix was to look in settings to disable a random effect, but I don't remember

I am so pumped for shake to grow cursor, I constantly lose track of the cursor, and I love this.

How do we disable Adaptive Sync? I couldn't find anything on any forum about this... Edit: Found it, it's in the display settings.

5:17 That’s how I quit KDE Neon years ago. Bugs for days - from minor version update to the other they would introduce bugs and I got fed up with it. Now I use Gnome with a Ubuntu-based distro - I need work to do, I can’t afford breakages…

I have the "mouse feels like it's low framerate" issue, but in sway and hyprland, and instead of adaptive sync being the trigger, it was being in a high refresh rate (>120 Hz)!!! On plasma, the higher refresh rate causes a different problem - I get severe flickering artifacts on the right half of the screen. I thought it was an issue with the intel integrated gpu or the i915 driver. Brodie or anyone else reading this - If you create a bug about the adaptive sync issue, please post a link to it - I would love to add my issue as well.

Interesting. I thought the VRR flickering was because of lack of explicit sync patch.

It's great. I've been using Plasma for a year now as my daily driver. 6.1 has a few nice improvements. The thing that sounded good but is actually very annoying, in a dual-monitor setup, is the cursor sticking to the screen border (common side between monitors) unless you move the cursor very fast. It sounded nice to be able to click on items that are close to the border more easily, but in practice, it gets very annoying when you move your cursors very often between monitors. The cursor hide on typing is great, and frankly. That's something that Windows have had for over 2 decades. It was about time. Regarding the cursor shake thing, it's nice when you have hi-dpi displays (you can sometimes lose track of it indeed!). Unfortunately, it's too sensitive IMO and I often get the enlarged cursor even when I don't intend to shake it, just by moving the cursor normally (it's probably worse when you use a high DPI setting for your mouse). The fact that the cursor is just a bitmap and looks not so good when magnified is not that bad - unless you use a cursor size that is already big relative to the resolution of your display, the aliasing is not that noticeable, and using this feature for lower resolution makes no sense. All in all, Plasma is the DE that has the most features of anything in existence, including Windows and macOS. The parts that would require more work are the "KDE applications", which are not all great. I use Okular as my main PDF reader, and it's good enough, but it still have annoyances, such as a very high RAM consumption (never seen a PDF reader that was so memory hungry, and I'm talking about the "normal" memory setting). It also still doesn't have more than 10 entries and in recent files, it's not configurable, and it still doesn't have any session (saving the list of currently open files and being able to restore it).

hows tilling on 6.1? i tried using polonium but it crashes my desktop sometimes

Can you do a install guide on how you got BTOP to look so good with Alacrity? around 4:29 in the vid. Thanks!

what do you guys use for autotiling in kde? In gnome i'm using forge extention similar to popshell. Auto tiling is an important feature for me and thats the only reason why im still gnome i'm not really a fan of gnome extension when gnome gets an upgrade, extensions gets broken like nvidia graphics switcher.

11:10 honestly, I still want the old style power interface back. I'm so used to a single power button on my panel just opening old interface and then choosing either shutdown or reboot from there depending on what I want to do. It just looks better to have a single button on my panel, so at least having the option to use the old interface would be nice. On to a bug, I've noticed that if you use the Super key to open the app menu (start menu) then you can hold Super and press Ctrl to toggle open and close the menu. This is extremely annoying if you have any shortcuts that rely on both Super and Ctrl as you have to make sure to hit Ctrl first; in my case I use Super+Ctrl+"Arrow Key" to move windows to another screen, and I just end up moving the app menu to another screen if I hit Super before Ctrl. It also doesn't seem like old bug with Plasma Search where plugins aren't saved correctly and are reset on reboot is fixed yet. Personally it just feels like unnecessary clutter when I just want to search for my installed apps and it also shows system settings and stuff, so while not a massive thing I still find it annoying.

The setting at 15:24 seems to be working as intended but the name is far from clear. From what i've observed, it seems to refer to the cursor speed (in pixels traveled) needed for it to change between displays. If you set this to a low value, less cursor movement is required to change screens when reaching the border. If you set a high value, more movement is needed. If you set this value to... idk... 900px, and you move your mouse so slow that the cursor never jumps that amount of pixels on the screen, you will never change displays. But yeah, "Edge barrier" doesn't get that across imo.

i use artix btw

Freesync has been so awful on linux for quite a while. Its a monitor config issue for me, the rapid change from high to low framerate causes quick brightness changes leading to flicker :( i still am not sure how to fix it but would love to get help solving it

Drinking during a stream? What a true blue Aussie.

I can finally switch from Gnome to Plasma. Plasma 6.1 is the first release that works with comparable performance to Gnome and without major crashes when running the Nouveau driver on RTX 2000+ series cards. Things are really coming together with Nouveau, nvk, and the mesa project as a whole for recent Nvidia cards. Between the GSP driver updates from kernel 6.7+ and this update to Plasma, Nvidia cards using Nouveau are becoming much more viable as a daily driver.

Can't believe people are so hung up on the "blurry" cursor

My Fedora Silverblue is stable

The freesync flicker bug is actually a hardware bug, some implementations of freesync are kinda crappy and when they're at the lower end of their freesync refresh range (the range that freesync can actually make the given frames smooth) will begin to flicker. I had a monitor that would do this on Windows in Unity's editor, insanely annoying, and it wasn't just me, there were many other's who's freesync displays would flicker too. My new monitors have never had this issue in Windows or Linux, there's likely a software workaround where you can disable freesync _before_ you get to the lower end of the freesync refresh range that would solve this.

14:40 time travel bug confirmed

How do i make notification bigger like that .

Yeah i have to have vrr turned off, it's been like that for over a year.

I.. like.. BIG CURSORS and I cannot lie! For real, though, the giant cursor will actually help some of my users find it. I approve.

having adaptive sync on completely makes my desktop unusable for a few seconds whenever i open a program D: it flickers like crazyyy

Here before Vax comments about Plasma being good, but Hyprland being better

Don't worry, welcome to 6.1 :) Isn't it just so much better than Hyprland. Also my curser don't grow, I feel sad. Not affected by said bug.(Think it was off by default in 6.0 so it just keeped that setting)

Here's hoping we get proper tiling one day

Windows 10 still has the right click menu bug. Funny how that's the same on both systems

When will color management support come to plasma 6 wayland?

We need a way to manually set the cursor size just for trolling purposes.

How to make Obs shortcuts work in wayland ?

Personally I kinda miss the all in one power menu... Let me just set a shortcut for one of them and Go from there. As for the edit mode jumping around, personally I think it's ok for the panel settings to cover the desktop (if that's open then it means you're not working on the desktop, especially now that the chances of misclicking the bar are low), as for the widget panel.... That's more up to discussion but you could make the panel retreat when you tak a widget out and come back when you hit a confirmation button that you're done with the widget. It'll probably be a more complicated thing to write tho

I'm afraid to switch. Nothing significant for me to switch FOR, just yet (I'm already on 6.0.5), unless they fixed the emojifier. (487250) Last time I updated KDE (from 5 to 6), my entire desktop went a bit wonky, and I lost all notification sounds. Still can't get a single sound to play to this day / no idea what's causing it. I've been told everything from notification sounds just don't work, to trying notify-send commands (which work). No one in the IRC channels seem to be much help / are just as confused as I am.

The desktop cube seems somewhat broken on 6.1, I have to disable and reenable it after each use which didnt happen on 6.0+

Thank you, but i will stick with XFCE.

look at that cursor IT KEEPS GROWING