I have 3 2014 Samsung BF series plasmas. A 51" F4500, an F5300, and a 60" F5300. Also have 2 2013 F4500 models, picture is just as good but slightly more input lag than the 2014s.

how can they be amazed by the resolution, its just the most basic generic resolution aka 1080p or less....

@@DeceniumThat’s basic to you? Lol. 480i would be basic.

Rex Pepper same here. Haven’t had a single issue with mine purchased 8-9 yrs ago as well. Love this tv

@dsimp comelli the only thing you could go for now that will give you a similar experience is an OLED.

time to upgrade to an 8k.

is it HDMI Or D-sub?

@dsimp comelli 4K is not really in full swing yet anyway. I have My Sammy and invoice of it I paid $850 for it plus a matching Sammy sound Bar $221.

There is actually a huge advantage of the HD Ready Plasma TVs, and that is brightness.. The usually are (much) brighter then the 1080p models.. I have a last gen 2013 full hd Panasonic and HD Ready Panasonic Plasma, and the HD Ready model is much brighter and has this "CRT" look.. There is no need for 4k, besides you have a 150inch tv..

You are right. 4/8K displays are only viable if a person views 4K Blu-Rays, games in 4K, or watch ATSC 3.0 over-the-air broadcasts.

Make you words mine

Worst thing at Plasmas for me is the Power Consumption it even eats CRTs up in that matter

My plasma just died. I’m buying another one second hand, moving From a 2009 plasma to a 2014 Panasonic VT60 screen I’m excited to pick it up next week. I’m gonna be a plasma lifer hahaha until I get an OLED

Escolheu mal. Plasma mto melhor.

LCD is shit compared to plasma. I bought plasma panasonic in 2011 and I still have it but its time to OLED

Do you still have it?

the lcd was much sharper than the crt...and thats about it, everything else is worse

Yo también tengo un plasma 3D Samsung series 490 y es mi niña consentida...en las demás habitaciones hay un OLED y un Qled 4k y a pesar de ser 1080p sus colores y contrastes son espectaculares

Same! KURO PDP LX5090

Still rocking a 50 panasonic for a computer monitor as I type right now and a 60 Samsung Plasma as our main TV. About to get another 50 plasama for a 2nd computer.

also when they dim its great for a computer monitor because who wants to look at an insanely bright screen...

@@PermacultureLongboarder My man! Used a Panasonic 43 for monitor for 4 years.1080p perfect blacks..

Plasma TV is the best Pioneer is best plasma TV Use it only for important shows Enjoy

The zt60..??

@@itsalesconsultant They made some fine TVs... if I didnt have my last gen kuros I would have gone for the Panasonic.. vt65 or zt.. Panasonic getting involved in oled was the reason I finally went 4khdr

@@itsalesconsultant so true

Have a Viera. Love it

@mabbohabb Yeah, I have a 42 inch Panasonic Viera that is 1080p. I've had it for around 8 years now

Do you know the movie "40year old virgin" Lots of those Plasma tvs as product placement :D

I saw a video saying OLED was better but to me the Plasma looked more natural and I prefer that look despite the fact the blacks ain't as dark as OLED. Old school stuff seems to be where Plasma shines.

@@realamericannegro977 The lower resolution of the panel works better for old games consoles as the tv doesn't have to scale the image as much as it would with a 1080p or 4k panel.

You can apply a very high end anti-glare filter, you will loose a bit brightness depends on how expensive one you buy but it helps, A LOT.

I have p42gt20 viera panasonic from 2011 great tv still playing well no issues but its time for oled. I think about philips 55 ' 806

@@Filipsoon Oled has inferior motion. Will not be much of an Upgrade aside from the brightness and black levels.

how you get the hours

have fun you lucky SOB

You should try 4k blurays on oled. Game changer.

@@kennethwallace21 Yes mate.. that's all I use mine for had it about a yr and bit have the Panasonic ez952.. cinematic like the kuro but brighter and more detailed.. it was the 4khdr that made me buy one..

dude. modern ips panels have response times of 1ms or less and 2-5 ms or less of input lag. 20ms is some shitty old cheap lcd tv froom like 2006. right now LED MONITORS haave far beter refresh rate

@@davidt8087 and worse Motion Resolution, unfortunately. Plasma TV's are 1.6ms (600Hz) or 0.33ms (3,000 Hz).

@@davidt8087 I still see high end OLEs and Qleds that ghost to me. I dont' care what you say about refresh rate. My plasma's don't do that granted picture quality is night and day.

@@davidt8087 The best samsung lcd q90r display have only 5-9ms at best and that's for transitions for 20-80% not 0-100 or even g2g. Plasma's like Panasonics or Pioneers Elite lineup flagships have 3000hz FFD which give them sub millisecond response time from any grayscale range although with 2-4ms of phosphor decay.

David T that's the marketing hype noob, gtg stuff not the actual response time of those ugly ips panel, dirty glow, 700-800:1 pathetic contrast ratio..so ugly

It s technology behind plasmas that will give best picture accuracy because of phosphorous light diodes against led artificial light which makes dull colors, plus plasma have better motion and SDR content can t be beaten by led technology, pioneer kuro 500 series and panasonic last gen st vt zt are still top ib terms of picture quality

how is the default speakers on tv with panasonic? they're amazing at making camera lenses and speakers, they're in cooperation with university of tokyo making new stuff all the time.

samsung to me is just a big company from south korea like ford was to automobiles.

Benefits or demerits of buying plasma

@@akshaychadha4381 Pros: Low input lag, AMAZING viewing angles, correct colors, glass screen protection and metallic back, great build quality. Cons: Energy, Heat, Low brightness, No 4k/HDR, reflective screen.

Plasmas had built in anti aliasing like crts new TVs even 1080p look horrible with Xbox 360

I bet the 480p plasma is perfect for DVD's. I have a 720p plasma and a 1080p plasma.

@quatz1981 not sure how great it was for DVDs, but it was amazing for ps2 and og xbox through component, unfortunately it developed an issue with purple stuck pixels

@@RubyIsBored yeah i would imagine it would look great on those consoles

I'm going to buy Samsung plazma TV is it beneficial

I agree, John. I have three 42 inch plasmas (U1, X3 and S60) and I love them. I also have larger plasmas (VT60, GT50 and 111FD) but in some ways the S60 is my favorite display overall. Especially for gaming.

@@cyberedge881 What an amazing collection of Plasma TVs.. 😀

Still rocking a Samsung 60 and want OLED to come out with some 80+ inch for under 2k then I am game to switch.

You are selling this one

As an owner of a 2007 Viera and a newer LED 4K Sony, your comparison is spot on! My Viera still servers as a spare bedroom TV as well.

GREAT, Man! Enjoy it and use it well. The Motion Resolution of a Plasma TV is PRICELESS! There is NO other HDTV with that picture Quality for Video. Even OLED in video movement are like 300p and a complete "crappy" Tech.

@@Red05x I don't think that Erin is a man

@@vulc1 Hehehe, really? I don't know, Man... Are you a Man, right?

I got one off craiglist a few months back for 100 bucks.

@@TrevorHamberger I really love plasma tv sets but now that I got an LG OLED I do not miss them anymore. LG finally made something to fill the void. The model I have is the 55E7P. Crazy thing is I bought it when it was new for $5000. I know they got cheaper now but I don't regret anything because the machine is still just as awesome as when I bought it. Perfect blacks and better colors than a plasma tv with 4K resolution. If you ever want something new to fill the plasma tv void you can trust in an LG OLED TV and they are cheaper now haha.

@@cemsengul16 lol. my car cost half your TV.

@@TrevorHamberger Yeah I kind of regret buying it when it was brand new a few years ago. Well it was an impulse purchase see I had this Panasonic Plasma TV that I would never replace finally die on me after 10 years of use and quickly wanted to fill the void. I was at a Best Buy and fell in love with OLED. I know I feel stupid too for paying that much.

@@cemsengul16 lol well at least you're really happy with the tv. I myself don't care too much about picture quality. I just don't want some piece of crap LCD to look at and I'm cheap as hell and buy everything used except underwear and socks (i still have really nice stuff though) so I went with a plasma. I will keep your OLED suggestions in mind for when these plasmas die in maybe 20 years ;)

That’s why people in the 90s also hate on LCD screen. TN should be continued by now even IPS monitor got 144hz now. Most people will also prefer using a desktop pc over laptop because of CRT monitor while laptop got a TN with STN which have the worst motion blur ever compare to TFT screen on modern LCD.

Everyone seems to say that, but the one I have only weighs about 50 pounds and my laptop gets way hotter to the touch than this TV ever has. I know earlier plasma TVs had cooling fans and heatsinks but if mine is anything to go by it would seem the issue of heat was largely solved in the later years.

@@griffensander The later ones probably were improved quite a bit. But most new 50" lcd/led TV's are under 25lbs, and used quite a bit less power. Hopefully yours serves you well, and unless you go OLED you won't get a better picture imo.

@@griffensander I have a PN51E8000 How much is it worth?

​@@Raiders-wm5kb That's one of the best plasmas Samsung ever made, but the people who spend a lot on TV's usually don't buy 10 year old plasmas so it probably isn't worth more than $300. There's a Kuro Pro 151-FD (basically the best plasma ever made) that's been on my local Craiglist for $400 for 2 months now and still hasn't sold.

Griffen Sander gotcha it still looks good I put it in my basement.

How about QLED?

@@calvinkulit In fairness the LCD TVs I owned were earlier models and not QLED or today's higher end LCDs with local dimming. But for me it's all about contrast and emissive technologies are still King in this regard.

@@quacktuber1051 just try newer lcd or oled pls give a better try

I got two of them off craiglist this year. a 43 inch panasonic for 100 and a 50 inch philips for 50 bucks.

Check out some LG OLEDs. They are very impressive. Your local Costco should have them on display

Dude, any OLED is leaps and bounds better than every plasma, ever made, by any measurement. Heck, I'd go as far to say Vizio's P series and TCLs 6 series TVs are better than any plasma ever made, in every area, except off angle viewing and 480p upscaling. This is coming from a former video calibrator who spent hundreds of hours with Pioneer Elite Kuros and owned a Samsung E7000 series plasma up until 6 months ago. I still love Plasma, but its no where near the best display tech today. That $5000 50" Pioneer Elite Kuro is bested today by a 50" LED for $500.

@@conchobar "Former video Calibrator"? Mister, you have a SERIOUS problem.

@@Red05x Proclaiming that I was a video calibrator just provides context, and possibly validity, to my statement. Any problem you have with that lies solely with YOU.

@@conchobar Mister, I DON'T have a problem with that, is that I really can't imagine a former Calibrator saying that. Just Motion Resolution, EVERY LCD, LED or OLED HDTV 60HZ has only 300 lines. And to ANY that reads this, please, try a DVD (yes, a DVD!) with Component Cables on a CRT (calibrated) and an UHD 4K HDR Blu-ray on a 4K HDR LCD, LED, OLED and the DVD will look better, except for CGI pictures. No only Motion Resolution, but colors. The Colors on OLED 4K TVs aren't as good as a Plasma TV or CRT TV. For example, my B7 is loosing (just a little) uniformity on the screen. It has less than two years and starting (again, just a bit) to fail... unacceptable! Maybe you did a LOT of calibrations and I'm sure you're a very good calibrator BUT, there is NO WAY any 4K OLED HDR TV could look better than any 2010 - 2013 Plasma HDTV (showing video with movement) no matter the content: Video Games, Movies, HDR Movies, Sports, Cartoons, news, even Retro Consoles. BOTH TVs (Plasma and OLED) are "crappy" to show PS2 Content but at least, it doesn't look as bad on my Plasma as on my OLED. The only... ONLY way that the OLED B7 looks better than my Plasma is on Still pictures and PC content while the screen is showing still content (MY GT25 doesn't have Chroma 4:4:4 so, some tiny letters look a little blurry). My comment was that, a comment. I apologize if disturbed you in any way. I can only dream (by now) with a VT60 or a ZT60 or Panasonic to Re-release again Plasma Technology. By now, I enjoy my Viera GT25. But, at least I have one of the fastest Viera Plasma HDTV ever released (15ms Input LAG).

Thats an oldschool 2008 HD Ready Plasma TV.. These old models have some dial potis on the power boards, so you can tweak the black level if you want to invest some time..

What's the refresh rate?

@@snark567 60fps

@@cp070476 Doesn't it look blurry at 1080p stretched out like that?

@@snark567 No sir it's razor sharp no motion blur at all.

@@snark567 The keyword is "sample and hold" - a plasma doesn't do that, it pulses, so you get less to no motion blur even at 60Hz. The only reason LCDs and OLEDs are pushing higher refresh rates is to combat motion blur, a problem that doesn't even exist on CRT and Plasma.

Thank you! There may be some QLED tv's that are "better" in some ways (like maximum brightness) than our plasmas, but personally I wouldn't upgrade to anything but an OLED and with MicroLED on the horizon it may only be a few years until OLEDs start hitting the used market for cheap. I plan to ride out my plasma until that happens.

@@griffensander Good point Griffen, I bet when that happens you can snap up OLED for 800$ or so...

Yes without 3D modern TV tech seems to have taken a huge leap backwards! :(

If you watch movies, shows and don't game a lot yes go for Oled, they got really "cheaper" now and for around $1000 you can get regulary a nice 55" one like LG C1 for an example. For the main TV I can't go back to a regular LCD anymore it's just to good of an viewing experience and a pleasure. For entertainment and gaming I use LCD panels cuzz it's just the best combo in my opinion :-) I'm also not throwing away my Plasma cuzz it's still a nice spare TV,

For PC you need to feed it with 1080p 60hz

The limit was cell size. Smaller cells emit less light and the cells would be so small with a 4k resolution it wouldn't have been usable in daylight unless the TV was huge.

@@griffensander So why not make huge ass plasma's? I would be game for a 90" plasma that was a little more energy efficient or lets say as energy efficient as an older plasma that was in the 4-5K range.

​@@PermacultureLongboarder As you pointed out, Plasmas are a lot more complicated and expensive to manufacture. Plasma was also limited to the TV form factor, whereas OLED can be used in everything from a 100" TV to a 1" curved watch face, and with that in mind it makes little sense to keep two separate manufacturing processes in use when Plasma has so few advantages over OLED. Plasma's only real advantage (aside from price these days) is that it's a refresh-type display whereas OLED is sample-and-hold and, for the most part, that only makes a difference when gaming.

@@PermacultureLongboarder theres a 100 inch plasma for sale on e Bay right now in the uk only 4500😂

How was it? Im buying one this week for 50 Euro (if it has no burn ins or such). Im so excited!

@@Eriksvensson4231 still in service! If you're fine with 1080p, quality is unparalleled. Mine suffered from some red tint, had to change a few settings in the service menu, you can find tutorials online for such things, all you need is a smartphone with an IR emitter, or a harmony remote!

@@coccoborg the input lag on game are good ?

@@ismiismael extremely good. Not measured mind you, but I use it to play wipeout hd/fury on ps3 on it sometimes and its better when compared to any other TV I've ever tried. It can, however, exhibit ghosting on fast moving scenes at lower brightness.

Since I'm here over two years later: still the best deal I ever got on used electronics anything. No burn-in after two years, no issues to report and great quality. Expect lower brightness when compared to modern LCDs and especially OLEDs, menus are also sluggish at times, but other than that, it's perfect. In a dark room it is absolutely jaw-dropping.

You can do it just fine.

Plasma TVs are super cheap.. and usually the owners love the natural picture..

@@TheRealJohnHooper John, I see that they are comparably priced to other used LED TVs. The Pioneer Kuro plasmas bring a premium. I really love this Panasonic Viera.

That is a last gen (last produced Samsung Plasma TV lineup from 2013) HD Ready Plasma TV.. If you are searching for a Plasma, this is a great option.. But I would offer a bit less money..

It'd be difficult to tell exactly what's going on without seeing a picture. Depending on the issue, replacing the control board might solve it, but it could also be that the panel is just failing.

12 bit

For the most part, 2012 was the last year for plasmas. The Pioneer Kuros and 2011-12 Panasonic Vieras were the best, but Samsung (what I have) and Sharp also made very nice plasma TVs. The early 2000's plasmas were standard definition, some had as low as 600x360p resolution. They were also more prone to burn in, had much shorter half-lives, worse black levels, were very heavy, used a ton of electricity, ran very hot, and weren't as bright. Later model plasma TV's used slightly tweaked formulas of gases in the plasma cells enabling brighter output, deeper blacks and a wider, more accurate, color gamut while using a fraction of the electricity. A lot of 2008 models (not all though) weren't full 1080p HD. Many were 1280x720 or 1360x768. Plasmas went out of fashion because they were heavier, used more power, and were more prone to burn in than OLED TVs. Plasmas also couldn't be built with a 4k resolution because the cells would be so small they wouldn't emit enough light to be usable.

@@griffensander Thanks, I really appreciate it, if you think of anything else let me know... that really helped.

@@DMX-PAT 2008ish TV's were also 2x or 3x as heavy as later plasmas. My 2008 50" Panasonic probably weighs 70#'s and is a monster to put up and is double the weight of my 2012 Samsung 60". I just found a 2011 42" panasonic on CL for 50$ and its going in the sunroom :). When they get older they make KILLER computer monitors because who cares about burn in and they dim a little which to me is easier on the eyes. I am about three foot from my 50' plasma as I type this and am doing another 50" for a computer room. I think its funny everybody walks around on their phones looking at a 2" screen when you can get a 50" computer screen for 300$ and an I-7 powerhouse CPU for 700$ "as much as their phones". My 2008 Panasonic is MUCH better TV than the 2012 Samsung. The speakers are night and day better, the glass is thicker, the quality is nuts compared to TV's today. We use it multiple times everyday sense 2008. If I had surround I would opt for an older 60" because I think most of the LG Samsung 2011-13 models had crap speakers to loose weight because they were competing with LCD in those days. I love how in 2004 a TV that was 10K is sitting on my wall for 700$ in 2011... and I still get great action with NO GHOSTING which is great for games on a computer. When I get lag its really lag and not the monitor lol.

@@PermacultureLongboarder Well said, that's really what it's all about is the older models. I need a list of the best models to look for because it's difficult to tell what you're getting on a kijiji add. The best way is check the back with the barcode thing that has the year it was made at least that way you can tell by the year and you know it's going to be halfway decent. But like you said the weight alone is a pain in the ass, but it's worth it. What plasma was 10k when it first came out, I want that one!! I would love to see more used TV repair shops out there catering the early plasma TV's but I'm just dreaming because people just go for what's new and cheap now...

Max power draw (with a full screen white) is labled at the back of the tv..

John Hooper where? Didn’t see it

you are selling

No it is not worth it.. You can get 42 Plasma TVs for 50$.. look for a Panasonic where the HDMI Inputs are working and you can even use a PS5 on that thing..

@@TheRealJohnHooper thank you for the input! I figured it wasn't worth it. The 100 pound weight alone is so annoying. I didn't realize how inconvenient it was to not have an hdmi

@@rjGabriel100 2005/2006 Plasma TV models already had HDMI Inputs.. There was also huge progress in technology happening in Plasma TV Tech.. This Zenith is not even HD. It is 852x480.. Even a later built HD Ready Plasma TV has a higher resolution, much less power draw, and much lighter.. There are tons of second hand Plasma TV on sale..

Any 2013 model. For Panasonic that would be the S60, ST60, VT60, and ZT60. Since this video I've upgraded to the a 65" Panasonic S60 and absolutely love it. It's significantly better than the Samsung in this video.

is the tc p65v10 worth getting

i got a 42 inch viera from that year on craigslist for 100 bucks.

Technically is just a Marketing try to tell us that the new tech is better but is NOT. Plasma TV's are a much better tech than new displays (even OLED 4K or 8K).

@@Red05x "even oled" LOL!! keep telling yourself that. You bring your Plasma 1080p and I'll bring my oled 4k with hdr and then we'll compare which display produces better picture quality not to mention how much plasma's consume electricity and the amount of heat they radiate.

@@swifty1969 I don't need your OLED 4K, Man. I have mine (OLED B7) and see OLED displays quality EVERY DAY. Now, you need to check for a Plasma Display (Panasonic is suggested) and see it by yourself.

@@Red05x oh cool! B8 here. I didn't like Plasma's even back then, I'm sensitive to its flickering. Besides, you can never use plasma tv's as a computer monitor....no sireeee.

@@swifty1969 In that regard, you are right. Plasma Displays are not the best option to use as a Computer Monitor. Nevertheless, Picture Quality on a Plasma Display is a LOT better than all the others. "Sample and Hold" Displays are very, VERY BAD for Motion Resolution.

I think mine uses around 120w. Later models aren't as power-hungry as the early models were, but they'll all use more power than a modern LCD or OLED.