Platform Repellent Guide - Deep Rock Galactic

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Gaming Existence

Gaming Existence

2 жыл бұрын

In this video we examine how the repellent platforms work. How many platforms we can put down before we break the AI pathing and they ignore them. Some practical use cases for them such as tunnels, cliff faces and defending positions such as uplinks.

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@splitsentro
@splitsentro 2 жыл бұрын
Very demonstrably, I like it! A few notes: - There is no need to place platforms that tightly, every platform has additional field around it where it still applies its repellent (you can see that in Banagement's videos). - You can strengthen repellent effect even more if you place platforms on top of another already set ones. Such patterns are just more reliable. - Also it works on bosses and bulk detonator as well - you can make sort of circle or cross and just run around so the bug won't have ever direct path to you. In the old times people did repellent platforms on the exit tunnel in the dreadnought room so the wave of bugs won't have easy time when it enters during your boss fight. - You can defend Doretta just like objective on Salvage with repellent platforms, but you need to reestablish defense every phase + don't forget about ceiling on phase 2. And the same goes for Hack-C. - Some build V-pattern upside down on the wall - that way you can alter bugs way so the will be turning to you in much further positions.
@Cheesecannon25
@Cheesecannon25 2 жыл бұрын
Bugs treat repellent platforms as twice the distance compared to normal ground You can test it with Molly, since she has the same pathing AI
@noble_lemon
@noble_lemon 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this comment before
@elkpants1280
@elkpants1280 2 жыл бұрын
If this is true, couldn’t you feasibly use this to make the platforms thick as they are wide to ensure the bugs go around
@Cheesecannon25
@Cheesecannon25 2 жыл бұрын
​@@elkpants1280 You can make it a bit wider than it is thick I recommend testing in a haz 1 with molly to get a feel for good sizes
@thecrazypain9978
@thecrazypain9978 2 жыл бұрын
do keep in mind that the range of the repellent is larger than the platform itself, so some space between platforms is beneficial. At first when I saw a video of someone leaving space between I didn't think it would work, but tested in game it works just the same and with less ammo usage
@LemurMaster
@LemurMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if the space is less wide than your usual glyphid, they'd still have to put their feet on the platforms, so this kinda makes sense.
@thorin4406
@thorin4406 Жыл бұрын
Can confirm that this is correct. Small gaps (about half the depth of a platform) work. Particularly useful when applied vertically to walls as the depth of each platform isn't great.
@MrZega000
@MrZega000 7 ай бұрын
I always take repellent because I love the idea that my platforms are doubling up as an auto path breaker for the ai
@stripey566
@stripey566 Жыл бұрын
the distance you/people stand from the repellent platforms makes a difference: standing on platform: repellent stops working, bugs zoom to you standing directly beside platform: about 4 platforms (3 if you leave spaces between to save ammo) is the maximum standing 5-10 meters away: 5-7 platforms width (less if you space), as you showed around one minute in when playing with other people though, you can't control where they decide to put themselves, so i recommend against using more than the bare minimum in high traffic areas
@dr.cheeze5382
@dr.cheeze5382 2 жыл бұрын
if you're in a flat area it's also possible to put the platforms in an X or + shape. this allows you to constantly just run around the center platform of the x X while the bugs walk around the outside parts
@skbenga3828
@skbenga3828 2 жыл бұрын
if you find your overhangs arent working properly its easy to fix with the fillowing shape. O OOOO OOOOOOOO
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 5 ай бұрын
FYI, from my own testing you can have about 90% of a platform's worth of empty space between plants and still have bugs avoid them. You can make a line about 4 plats long with all the empty space between them and have it still work. It's not as clumped up as your version, but two rows of 4 plats still funnels them a decent amount on the cheap.
@brandon952
@brandon952 Жыл бұрын
I love your focus on plasma grenades, the obvious application for me is to funnel into proxy mines, but I appreciate the alternative perspective!
@conejulio1137
@conejulio1137 Жыл бұрын
Felt like David Attenborough was explaining this for me. 10/10 rock and stone!
@ga614055
@ga614055 2 жыл бұрын
This is a terrific guide! Really helps seeing the concept in action. You've opened up a whole new dimension of game play for me - now it's time to get creative!
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I always use repellent! Have fun trying it out! Rock and stone 🙂
@overd0z3r
@overd0z3r 2 жыл бұрын
I think "defend circle" can be even stronger if you use mines. You can put them between gaps that bugs can pass through.
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. If you do go mines though, put them as far on the enemy side as possible, friendly fire is a pain!
@kailuakid6096
@kailuakid6096 2 жыл бұрын
I tried them out when first playing this game two months ago but did not notice a difference. Thank you for the video. I have a better idea of how to use them now with this guide. Rock and Stone!
@blindfolded8362
@blindfolded8362 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the best video on the topic I've seen. Good job!
@vEGAlen
@vEGAlen 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! didn’t know it was this effective I usually just make roofs well this open ups some more plays for me and makes the engineer more appealing thank you!
@thespecialist4442
@thespecialist4442 10 ай бұрын
This is very nice man. I like the way you spelled everything out. I'll be having another go at this as I've written them off as useless previously.
@scoresandflames
@scoresandflames Жыл бұрын
Amazing strategic content... I just began to play DRG like two weeks ago, at the beginning I would have never thought that this game can require such finesse.
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence Жыл бұрын
Awesome and welcome to DRG! It has a lot of cool and subtle gameplay choices! Rock and stone!
@libertyprime9891
@libertyprime9891 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually quite nice, thanks for the info mate.
@javierfalco2535
@javierfalco2535 2 жыл бұрын
This is super useful info, great vid!!
@RealNaisuCinema
@RealNaisuCinema Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I looked this up. I kept wondering why the heck the bugs weren’t staying away after I got that upgrade lol. Good to know.
@kalzonkly
@kalzonkly 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful guide. Comprehensive and useful. I might actually get some enjoyment out of engineer now
@legionofpie
@legionofpie Жыл бұрын
Another use for the platform gun repellent is to keep bugs off the ceiling in tunnels with medium to low vertical space. It's really helpful for your aoe classes to have an entire portion of the screen they don't need to consider any more.
@sylvi3855
@sylvi3855 2 жыл бұрын
Was googling this and this was on like 33min ago recommendation. NICE. i use em discharge on those gaps to kill bugs
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
Cool! Yeah EM discharge will work in those gaps as will the ole reliable proxy grenade 😉
@thorin4406
@thorin4406 Жыл бұрын
Platform repellent excels on Salvage missions. Keeping bugs off the wall surrounding the drop pod by covering it in spaced out platforms provides two choke points to place mines, turrets (emp or arc OC's too) or focus fire. It's powerful, but also a bit nutty in the way the cave ends up looking. Sort of like Mr Blobby.
@TheSpeep
@TheSpeep 2 жыл бұрын
I basically never run platforms without repellant, theyre super useful to cover up the blind spots of your turrets and funnel bugs into your mines
@El-Burrito
@El-Burrito 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic guide
@dddmemaybe
@dddmemaybe Жыл бұрын
It seems that the enemy draws a direct line towards you (with flanking curves with large numbers), and that the repellent platty merely curves any chosen "pathfinding" as if that whole platty area was just a hole instead. It's the same concept as a jump-based platty jungle gym with holes breaking their ai, but creating "holes" instead of normal terrain around the open air area. Theoretically you could make structures capable of both outcomes depending on if you're standing on it or not. edit: A pair of "Lips" to jump between across a chasm can manipulate both where they can peak up from, and also allow you to quite safely leap to the other side since they are previously repelled not directly at the platties near the middle of the "lip-line".
@-tr0n
@-tr0n Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video!
@johnlie123
@johnlie123 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the good tips. I observe that the repellent platform is quite often under-utilised by people.
@Damglador
@Damglador Жыл бұрын
At the beginning I was like "yea, cool, but I would like to have 8 more plats anyway" but after example with black box I think I should try this upgrade
@Paul-A01
@Paul-A01 Жыл бұрын
I think using it to keep bugs off the ceiling in a tunnel is a great and simple way to use this
@TARONHSAU
@TARONHSAU Жыл бұрын
Really amazing!
@cornbread9512
@cornbread9512 2 жыл бұрын
I used to think this was super useless until i saw people make bunkers and decided to try it myself. Now i think it's super fun to try and use it to funnel enemies as much as i can.
@Ankarua
@Ankarua Жыл бұрын
Personally I really learned its worth when I started doing EDDs with a consistent group and I ended up saving everyone so much time, ammo, and hassle by properly re-pathing things. Sworn by it ever since.
@9600bauds
@9600bauds Жыл бұрын
You can very easily make longer walls without the bugs ignoring them, you just need to add more at the center to turn them into a triangle rather than a line. Also platforms are a lot more reliable when placed on walls, 6 platforms in a line prevent bugs just fine
@constantinvasiliev2065
@constantinvasiliev2065 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. Ironically at 4:25 you debunk your own myth about "standing on a platform makes them not work properly" :) It has officially also been debunked in the official DRG discord channel. Repellent platforms don't really repel enemies, but mess a bit with their path finding algorithm by making them see the distance over the repellent platform surface to be twice as long. That's why sometimes standing on a platform seems not to work, simply because the bugs may calculate it still as the shortest available route. Anyways, great video. Thanks for nice usage ideas!
@-John-Doe-
@-John-Doe- Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Platforms increase the pathing distance calculated by the ai. If going over the platforms is still the shortest distance, the AI will select that route.
@kristerhalseth1352
@kristerhalseth1352 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you GE
@willywipeout3425
@willywipeout3425 28 күн бұрын
nice video thanks
@Zahariya
@Zahariya Жыл бұрын
Why isn't this repellent added to dwarf beer?
@DTdu92
@DTdu92 Жыл бұрын
that's a lot of pancakes
@user-tm4tz6xo4j
@user-tm4tz6xo4j Жыл бұрын
Im use platforms a lot, so this trick is not in my play style, but for economic players is very cool
@sergeylukin9111
@sergeylukin9111 2 жыл бұрын
i start play engi little more than nothing. Guess what i do first? rigth. Check Gaming Existence about engi stuff. after 700h i realize how insanely usefull can be platforms in this way....its can save so many ammo and lives.Literaly like tower defence mechanic in this platforms. ty again for this deep analizis.
@Kwaark
@Kwaark 2 жыл бұрын
platforms have an area of effect around them, did you tried with only 2 instead of 4? it should do the same thing
@diegobrando3373
@diegobrando3373 2 жыл бұрын
Wait... So youre telling me that platforms have more uses than helping scout mine minerals? Impossible
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
😂👍
@The_Rising_Dragon
@The_Rising_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is Inertia Inhibitor is soo useful, when I am using RJ250 oc!
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, never really properly used IH even with a zillion hours using the engineer. You have inspired me to give it a go!
@The_Rising_Dragon
@The_Rising_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamingExistence Yay! If you have played Team Fortress 2, it should come pretty naturally to you, although you'll constantly be 'pinging' the first few times you try! RJ250 is what made me switch to Grenade Launcher from Perma Using Breach Cutter and LOK-I since I unlocked them! So mich fun!
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Rising_Dragon I will try it out! Must admit I tried RJ250 a few times and didn't click with it but it sounds fun and I will give it another go. The ammo boost is handy also!
@The_Rising_Dragon
@The_Rising_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamingExistence It's kinda like learning to use the grappling hook all over again, so don't be dissapointed when you fall or the jump fails the first few times! I'd reccomend trying a couple missions in Lower Haz (1/2) and with Low Gravity if possible! A pretty good exercise to get used to Blast Jumping is, once the drop pod leaves, jump in the center of the crater, and try to get yourself out only using blast jumps. Those "small" are probably the most practical jumps! Also later try placing a platform, and trying to reach it with blast jumps. Try experimenting with the platform placement a bit! Remember, you have to aim at a spot above the platform, so you fall on it, and not into the platform!
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Rising_Dragon Great info! Thank you and rock and stone!
@geraldspoonsman8411
@geraldspoonsman8411 Жыл бұрын
Would this work well if I put them around pipe segments on on-site refining?
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence Жыл бұрын
If you mean to stop the bugs attacking them and breaking them, then no. The pipes are unfortunately a scripted event with random bits breaking no matter if they are attacked or not. When they break the bugs are programmed to move towards them and attack as if it is a downed dwarf. This gives the impression they broke it but also takes pressure off the team when repairing. If you meant something else, please let me know!
@geraldspoonsman8411
@geraldspoonsman8411 Жыл бұрын
@@GamingExistence oh. Well, would it stall them while I fix it?
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence Жыл бұрын
@@geraldspoonsman8411 I guess it would but the pipes will break randomly and you might have a lot of pipe sections down! That's a lot of plats!
@tysonmccartney
@tysonmccartney 2 жыл бұрын
what mod do you use for the damage numbers?
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9OYepanzrGwdJc.html Go to 19:34. It's called "Damage Text"
@MysticHydra
@MysticHydra 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck yes, ty so much
@MysticHydra
@MysticHydra 2 жыл бұрын
Also, first I guess
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
@@MysticHydra I don't think I get enough views or comments that it's much of an achievement! 😆
@ShemmyLass
@ShemmyLass 2 жыл бұрын
@@GamingExistence Considering how much effort you put into these videos I think you deserve more tbh. I finished your lok-1 executioner videos and after experimenting for myself have been converted into a believer in the smart rifle. Very well done. Thank you for your time and efforts in creating and uploading these videos. Rock and Stone!
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShemmyLass lovely to hear! Rock and stone!
@johnlie123
@johnlie123 2 жыл бұрын
With the depth and details you go into each videos, they for sure deserve more views! Hope your channel can get more subs and views in the future!
@udfn8725
@udfn8725 2 жыл бұрын
deep sanctum galactic
@mystory2914
@mystory2914 Жыл бұрын
does this work against bosses?
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not 😔 But would likely be OP if it did!
@thenippleextractor
@thenippleextractor Жыл бұрын
wide
@timhill5764
@timhill5764 Жыл бұрын
but my plasticrete catalyst
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