The genius of Piranesi by Susanna Clarke

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Mark Vernon

Mark Vernon

3 жыл бұрын

I hugely enjoyed the new novel by Susanna Clarke, prompted to read it in part because I knew of her interest in Owen Barfield.
It did not disappoint and I wanted to share why by talking about it in relation to four levels of meaning: the literal, moral, tropological and anagogic.
I'd go so far as to say it's an important book for our times, in its modest way - that attitude being key. It doesn't try to change anything, preach anything, worry about anything, but says instead, look, love, link. There is nowhere to go, nothing to escape, everything to perceive.

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@ashe1317
@ashe1317 3 жыл бұрын
There be spoilers in this comment! Now then, I can't speak to this with the same academic eloquence as you (I'm a rather more intuitive and abstract person to be great at precise analysis), but nevertheless I shall try! This book enchanted me from the start. The setting called up a mind palace, that memory tool people use. Especially the way Piranesi navigated the House, and remembered all of it; it struck me early on that this was, in some way, an internal world made external. I'm not sure how well that held up in the text itself, but I could never quite shake it. Two parts of the story in particular gave me absolute chills. The first was when Piranesi was on the moon-quest from the Other, and he came to the windowless hall that was blacker than black. And so it stayed until night fell and the moon rose and then he realized that this darkness was populated with statues all crafted to marvel at the moon, to forever wait for the fleeting glimpse of its beauty. That straight-up blew me away. It was such a wonderful image of absolute awe, coupled with this prior assumption of the hall's emptiness and inherent terror. Then go have Piranesi remark that for the first time, he felt a part of a crowd! Chills. The second was quite in the end, when the whole theory of the House is being proposed as ideas and knowledge that have sunk down into the earth and essentially stalagmited their way into the House; they're described as water, and instantly, I thought of the Tides booming in the depths, and how they must be steadily eroding further and further down, that the Hall's depths are not filled with external water but rather very artistic water that has trickled down and carven out an entire world, and will continue to expand up that world with the endlessness of knowledge. Oof, so many chills. I also quite enjoyed the way the House was not viewed as Something Bad, in the end. 16 (whose real name escapes me) eventually comes around to Piranesi not wanting to leave this place, in viewing it as beautiful, and that it is a place of comfort and peace that he does return to, accompanied by the other victim of the cult, who also was desperate to return. I felt like there was something to the anticipation of madness in staying there, and the converse contentment that Piranesi received, but I couldn't really parse the idea more than that. An interesting vibe, though. Anyway, this book is just wonderful. I'm glad I found someone who's talking about it! Thanks for the video; it definitely provided perspectives I would never be able to consider ✌️
@theoscout9205
@theoscout9205 3 жыл бұрын
Sarah Raphael?
@staceyb.5878
@staceyb.5878 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best review of this book I've seen. Nothing felt quite right until I got here. Thank you!
@jacquelinefaulknall8513
@jacquelinefaulknall8513 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve finished this book today. I can’t get it out of my head. It totally draws you in.
@lafidala.1726
@lafidala.1726 Жыл бұрын
It really does!
@Johanna_reads
@Johanna_reads 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis! I too had the idea that the reverse was true about the house being a "prison," but I feel like your analysis took this insight to a whole new level in exploring the essence of things and asking the reader to question perspectives of the mundane world. Beautiful exploration on what Piranesi represents and the wisdom in presence. Thank you for sharing!
@otaviotubao
@otaviotubao Жыл бұрын
The best Piranesi review! It captures all the deep and simple meanings behind each page, each paragraph, each line of this masterpiece... Thanks for sharing your beautiful point of view with us!
@andreasboe4509
@andreasboe4509 Жыл бұрын
A wonderful contemplation and analysis, Mark. Thanks a lot. It has helped me straighten out a few quirks in my own writing. "Unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven".
@springsogourne
@springsogourne 3 жыл бұрын
A book like no other. It is genius.
@Owen_Barfield
@Owen_Barfield 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for talking us through this with insight and grace.
@springsogourne
@springsogourne 3 жыл бұрын
I would also like to say the audiobook is excellent. I read the book and listened to the audiobook; the audiobook elevated it for me.
@voinekku
@voinekku 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same but in reverse order. I highly, highly recommend reading the book first. This is a book which deserves frequent pauses and thinking at your own pace while processing the story. For me it opened in an entirely different way when read.
@Sometimesdown
@Sometimesdown 2 жыл бұрын
A great interpretation of a great book. Thank you so much.
@keriford54
@keriford54 3 жыл бұрын
I have just finished reading it, your video was really good, as it made my reading feel like a second reading where I get to know the book better while not giving away the actual plot. This was the first book I have read in quite a while that was a real page turner for me, it deeply engaged me, it was something of an extension of the work of the Inklings, I found that very reassuring as sometimes it feels like art and culture have stopped or reached a cul de sac but this was seriously good in both being imaginatively rich and philosophically strong. It obviously helps that I like Barfield and the Inklings. A work of contemplation a call for us to make our psyches whole, to realise that the works of the past are not trying to speak in a strange code but that they are expressing how they experienced the world and it is different from how we do now. Thanks, this was a great impetus to plunge into the book and it was deeply satisfying.
@lafidala.1726
@lafidala.1726 Жыл бұрын
Beautifully put!
@lafidala.1726
@lafidala.1726 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I did also think of plato's cave when i read the book!
@karenrapoport7852
@karenrapoport7852 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this. Keep up the great work. Amazing analysis. :)
@PaulWilkinsonMusician
@PaulWilkinsonMusician 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insights Mark. Looking forward to reading this. Best. Paul.
@aidaramusovic5983
@aidaramusovic5983 3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful review. Thank you.
@angelacraw2907
@angelacraw2907 Жыл бұрын
What a great analysis. Thank you.
@hanssaunders3490
@hanssaunders3490 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very good review, Mark, and has given me a lot to think about now having finished the book. Thank you for taking the time to do this. Though it's rare for me to pick up books a second time, this one may get me to do it (and your review encourages that).
@locutusdborg126
@locutusdborg126 3 жыл бұрын
Is Piranesi religious in its themes? Christian? It has a C.S. Lewis quote so I thought I would ask.
@toristeffen3280
@toristeffen3280 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your wonderful video!
@raffaellalisboa1350
@raffaellalisboa1350 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Thank you !!
@wisedup20
@wisedup20 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Mark. I knew this book was brilliant but wasn't sure how. You are brilliant at literary criticism. Bless you.
@natashalatiff
@natashalatiff 2 жыл бұрын
Your review, like the book, was a meditative experience. Thank you.
@nettocap
@nettocap 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis! Thank you for sharing!
@liquid3600
@liquid3600 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful insight
@HeloIV
@HeloIV 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of reading Piranesi, your recommendation seals the deal!
@PlatosPodcasts
@PlatosPodcasts 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't disappoint
@knq1
@knq1 Ай бұрын
SPOILERS You articulated your analysis very well. I was definitely intuiting something similar but was having trouble solidifying the thoughts. When piranesi is talking to the other I think it becomes more and more apparent the nothingness or wholeness that piranesi represents against the single pointed knowing and seekingness of the other. At one point the other comments on how the world is dead, and piranezi comments that although the tide isn’t alive in the traditional sense, it is certainly alive in another. The other had already written the tide and world off as known and thus was blinded to it. He was blind to piranesi waving to him in the beginning of the book just like he was blind to the remarkable world around him. I think that it’s ironic the other sought an ancient power to become invisible or turn into an eagle yet he had already found out a way to shift into a different dimension. He said that it wasn’t enough and continued seeking something more. The prophet realized the error in that thinking and essentially accepted that this was all there was like piranesi did, but the prophet was a narcissist and so his acceptance manifested differently. I guess the main difference in how the house effected pirenesi vs the prophet is that the person piranesi was died. the prophet saw it clearly but did not die. I think that this book ultimately illustrates how we are surrounded by “god” as you say, but some of us are blind to it, some of us seem glimpse it but it does not “kill” us, and some of us it annihilates. Idk it’s very interesting book.
@pillarmusic1641
@pillarmusic1641 Жыл бұрын
Great review
@twowillowssanctuary1193
@twowillowssanctuary1193 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@cheekypotato599
@cheekypotato599 Жыл бұрын
Loved this. New sub! Hey 👐
@peehurasotra9498
@peehurasotra9498 2 жыл бұрын
your beard is kinda heart shaped, that's so cool
@baggymacaw
@baggymacaw 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a wonderful review. I think my starting place for the book centered more around the character of the other. You did not mention his name, which might have been a spoiler. He is the grandson of the magician in the CS Lewis book The magician's nephew. I think there's a closer connection to Lewis's understanding of the wood between the worlds and the notion that there are many different places and ways as you say, to understand God. I would be curious if you were familiar with the Lewis book the magician's nephew, and his dialogues that Lewis had with Owen Barfield and Charles Williams?
@PlatosPodcasts
@PlatosPodcasts 3 жыл бұрын
Susanna Clarke has talked about these links, if you have a google. I've done stuff on Lewis and Barfield in general, not the magician's nephew specifically. Do you know @pintswithjack? They're having a Barfield month right now that will cover this ground, I guess.
@baggymacaw
@baggymacaw 3 жыл бұрын
@@PlatosPodcasts Clarke places Piranesi squarely in the Lewis universe through the Magician's nephew. Ketterly (the other) is the grandson of the main character in the Narnia novel. I found this fascinating, esp since Lewis deals with paths to other worlds in several of his novels. thanks again. thoroughly enjoyed it.
@lynndemarest1902
@lynndemarest1902 Жыл бұрын
Try The Soul Gene.
@Manman3872
@Manman3872 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t really like the dissonance between the spoken beauty of the house and it’s objective description in the book where it’s not being praised. The house is infinite and varied, yes, however it seems that anyone would be pretty bored with it within a couple hours as it’s just a sequence of repeating rooms and halls with marble statues that often repeat in subject. It’s kind if hard not to relate to the other’s disinterest in exploring it outside of what’s necessary for his objective. I personally attribute Piranesi’s aesthetic admiration for the house to insanity.
@lafidala.1726
@lafidala.1726 Жыл бұрын
I agree with what you say about the dissonance.
@donaldadams1549
@donaldadams1549 2 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert!!! This book is genius only if you read it on a literal level. All you say is perfectly true but who is Paranesi? He is a person suffering from schizophrenia and most likely multiple personality disorder. In a quest to learn about himself he pursues a cult leader and is held captive by a deranged cult member. Deprived of all human interaction, he lives solely in his head in a made up world or ‘the house’, during his captivity. Time is transient in the novel. The ‘Other’ is perhaps his captor from the past or his psychiatrist in the present. The policewoman who rescues him from captivity might also be the seer or 16. Whatever, whenever or whoever, the author has dropped the reader squarely into the delusional mind of a madman with amazingly beautiful prose.
@lafidala.1726
@lafidala.1726 Жыл бұрын
I think we are so used to phsychologizing everything nowadays.. It becomes a problem. Not everything that is difficult for us to imagine is automatically a mental illness.
@StegoKing
@StegoKing Жыл бұрын
I think Piranesi is a jumbled dreamscape with no point or merit. I am mystified as to how anyone could feel positive about it. There is no meaning and there are no insights.
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