tonight i'm gonna protoss like it's 1999

My life for walking.

"No need to strategically place my pylon" is going to lead to so many artosis pylon being made 😂😂😂

You may not need to pay as close attention to your pylon placement, but now you need to pay attention to your gateway placement. @18:13 that central gateway is actually blocked, and any unit built by it would pop out inside the enclosure.

Suggestions: 1 Could use a brood war skin for this challenge 2 I’m sure your viewers wouldn’t mind some games with double robo in this series I love how you are just playing off of saving the warp gate research cost and taking a slightly later gas and earlier expansions as a result. It’s such a small thing but it’s going to disrupt the meta for sure! You rock Thermy!

Technically the stalker is not a BW unit, that was the dragoon. but they are pretty similar

"You know how Protoss have all this fancy super-tech? Well, what if actually, they didn't?" xD I love imagining that this is something like the army of a traditionalist branch of the Daelaam, who never accepted the Conclave's dissolution and just want to to go back to the good old days.

the leg of the nexus looking like a probe... I never ever was confused by that, but now that you mentioned it, I just can't unsee it...

I think that's an interesting idea for a patch that should be considered seriously by the balance council! The essence of all strategy is tradeoffs, gaining one advantage at the cost of another and balancing the sum of them all, and the best strategy games achieve a perfect balance of tension between all the choices you have to make. Having something that's just all upside for very little cost becomes something you don't even think about, you just get it every time, and it takes away from the balancing act that makes strategy games fun! Warpgate today is something every Protoss always gets, just a question of when, and once they have it there's literally no point in keeping them as Gateways, they're just worse in every way. Making players have to consider a real tradeoff between Warpgates and Gateways would be a great addition to the game, and I like your idea of making Gateways able to build more units over time via shorter build times vs Warpgates building them on-demand but resulting in fewer units overall in the same timespan due to long cooldowns between warp-ins. I agree with you, lots of cool strategies would emerge as Protoss players have to decide if they want some units now or more units later!

no one tell our boy brood war didnt have stalkers either

Im excited to watch this series. Make your ID “ WARPHATE”

This is a fun challenge idea! I saw a game of yours on the second channel that gives me an idea; you played triple Forge and chronoboosted your upgrades out. Since you're going heavy into Gateway units, not buying Warp Gate, and missing some of the upgrades like Blink, that seems like extra gas that could get spent on an early 1/1/1 you could combine with some pretty strong Chargelot timings that hit earlier than anyone expects.

"Let's do no warp this time again" (Réf to "Let's do the time warp again" from the legendary Rocky Horror Picture Show)

Maybe this is a Mandela effect but in my universe, there were no stalkers in BW, but dragoons.

I, for one, am off in search of the reddit thread about the last game that your opponent no doubt made.

Could be a fun idea for a series: Protoss “Mech”. Robo and Stargate Units only past initial defense.

I hope the strategies you explore in this series involve more ~2:1:1 ratios of gates to higher-tech production. Because of the warpgate mechanic, so much protoss meta revolves around having 10+ gates before adding a second robo and/or stargate (except for dedicated pushes or rushes). There's like an undeclared rule that after the first two or three units come out of a stargate that it can't be used again unless it goes to a lategame skytoss switch.

17:42 “To his own detriment?” I have to say, this series has me stoked! I can’t wait for the next one.

I really super enjoyed this episode. Maybe because of the amount of Broodwars I've watched, but also because so many of your builds don't really focus on economy. But in this build, it's sort of the early economy that is the point, without making it a macro grind. We'll see how it holds up when people don't try to aggress you early.

Khimari is hornless; uthermal is Warpless

I think your terran macro is coming online because of no warp gate. usually in your protoss series you arent always minmaxing gateway uptime

Without a single word I felt how angry and confused the last dude was, amazing play

super cool series. love it!

This might be my favorite series yet!! I love the way that Protoss plays with these tactics, I might have to give this a shot!!

Never got to these so early. Hy Mark

This is awesome, easily the most fun of the three series. Your life for aiur!

That first game... Haha. Thermy was playing chess and his opponent was playing checkers.

I love this idea. Great work

Stalker is not a BroodWar unit, those were Dragoons.

Amazing first episode! 🤤

Brood War units only + blinkless stalkers that you have to call dragoons whenever possible

This is so cool! I'm gonna love this serie :D

Would love to see a Starman challenge, every single unit and every command you have to make a star like you do with the workers.

Game 2 that opponent gave you a sarcastic salty "gl"

Slow warp started at Legacy of the Void. When everything else for the starring campaign race was nerfed.

That was a great episode

I am so sad this was his last video ever. If I had known it was the last time...I would have cherished every second.

I can't wait to see more of this one.

cool series brotha

Without warp gate, maby use gateways as a wall around your nexi, less surface area for lings and production closer to the front?

The economy advantage you get from not researching Warp Gate could give you the opportunity to hide a proxy a Nexus on the enemy's side for an even bigger economy advantage while having an additional Nexus for Chrono Boosting more units out. But what I really want to see is fast Dark Shrine and proxy Gateways for DT rush.

Best challenge ever! Such a blast from the past. 😂 I am curious how it holds up against stronger opponents.

Nice series!!

broodwar had guardians and reavers! i miss those 2 a lot.

Very entertaining challenge. Would love to see HT storms and storm drops on next episode.

Of your new series, this is the series Im most excited for. If you're going to use stalkers as a dragoon stand-in, disruptors are basically reavers.

Yes, the legendary BroodWar unit - stalker.

A broodwar only challenge sounds awesome!

One thing I have done with success is a 1 Nexus, gas-less, four gate zealot rush with 6-8 zealots. I usually just rally them to the enemy's base after the initial attack, and keep producing non-stop. I haven't always won, but it can work, even against Terrans.

this one right here go crazy

You need to do mass prism with storm and zealots with disruptor drops into carriers

The mind games is too hard that its actually funny.

Good luck finding a TvT match in Diamond League where the opponent don´t instant quit.

Love this ❤

That was pretty good.

Even Stalker didn't exist in BW. Dragoon was the analogue but campaign/coop established that they are def different units

The one advantage of warpless gates is that you can queue units. I think the instant switch from building one unit to building the next more than compensates for the longer build time.

Hello UThemal. Im the type of guy who played SC2 a long time ago and was never good tbf. But love watching it! So i got a question: Lets assume you play Zerg vs w/e, you have a banling nest and you're going into mid/late game. Wouldn't it be smart to burrow like 3 banes in advance around the enemies next expansions, so you can insta pop them without giving your enemy the chance to cancel it. Or is it not cost effective enough. I consider like 6 banes for 2 base denies pretty good, since you don`t even have to be active on the map for it. But i can't remember someone doing it. It's common to do it for armies (which often have detection). Thanks in advance for answering this. Love your videos! Keep them coming!

Love this idea!

the hardest challenge every, neural workers to gm

This might be the most ridiculous episode yet, absolutely epic strategy. How could you apply this philosophy to Terran and Zerg? Not built an orbital or reactor? Skip a queen?

Really interested in this. Delayed warp gate might be a better way of playing.

OH YES - PLEASE SHOW ME MORE OF THIS !!! 😼

Last game had me on edge of seat

New challenge, "I have a program that will randomly alt tab me" to grandmaster

this one was awsome

literally every protoss were cheesing you Marc

Brute War, nice! :-)

Warpless to Aiur

Hey, that was pretty good

For some "Brood War" games, you could also go for Zealot Archon style :D

This looks insane. Just constant stream of gateway units

technically there are no stalkers in broodwar :P i like the idea of using broodwar units (+ the stalker), primarily or exclusively. it really does keep the focus on the gateway units, but it gives you detection, drops, and a late game tech option in case the opponent plays super defensively

I think a buff to Protoss would be warpgate levels, almost like weapon upgrades. So initial warp gate research with cyber core. Warpgate level 2 at twilight council; reduces cool down by something like 5% and removes slow warp ins, and MAYBE a level 3 at either fleet becon or robotics bay, all units can be warped in, with the 5% cool down reduction applied to all warp ins; robo and Stargate aubject to slow warp-ins where applicable Its impactful, but not necessarily OP.

if u are not using gas early, try to get +1 atk for ground units and make a nice timing attack, with 3-4 gates and a prism for support

Brood war had the arbiter

I love your patch idea and I have been thinking the same for a long time. I always wondered why Blizz allowed you to turn a Warpgate back into a Gateway when there was no benefit to it.

Slowtoss to GM

Let's go!

What i like to see in pro protoss play is immortal prison juggle and disruptor play That zerg played very brood warish with a swarm of zerglings

wow... amazing...

17:33 the expression you were looking for was "to a fault". It seems like he's abusing that strategy to a fault.

What is the time difference between warp gate warp in plus cooldown and just building units through gateways?

I played broodwars a lot. They had reavers. A lot of pro used them. Kind of like disrupters.

A zerg no queen challenge would be interesting

hey what if you did mass zerglings without speed, or Terran bio w/o stim?

haven't you done this before? or was it beasty?

You are uThermal!

Dude I just watched a SC1 PvP game where the enemy toss just came into his base as the start and built a pylon and 2 gateways... you could try that since you don't need warpgate

I feel it's better to keep it 1 series at a time. The it's like the hero's journey, you accept the challenge, overcome, hit a wall, overcome again, reach the goal (GM), then see there is another goal (rank 1), the come out as a changed man. And then the next series. With 3 at the same time, you completely lose the story-telling side.

What a nailbiter the last one 😅

I wonder if you can do a faster adept drop skipping warp gate too...

Rip the button out of the keyboard that's what I always do

I think buffing protoss in ways that is mechanically challenging is a good way to ensure they get stronger at pro play but keeping them balanced on the ladder.

i would give the option to use multiple persons to control one player. someone could micro, someone could mine, someone could scout, etc. like 4 persons v 4 persons in an 1v1 game

Just no warp gate doesn't fill like a challenge for uThermal ))

I would think not getting warp gate would also making a fast push for charge or blink much easier while getting units

Drops would be very interesting. Without warpgate is like very expensive dropship

Challenge after this one: Brood War units only.

16:45 Warp Gate cooldowns are 20% faster than training the unit from a Gateway, iirc