Playing Old 78rpm Records On A 1917? Brunswick Model 7 Phonograph, Still Working After 100 Years!

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@Phono-fun
@Phono-fun 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, I'm an acoustic phonograph collector. The model 7 was originally introduced as the model 75 in 1918, in 1920 it was changed to the model 7 when Brunswick updated their lineup, being discontinued in 1922. Since it doesn't have the medallion I believe it's the 75. It Has the second style tonearm and the early sqaure horn. When Brunswick introduced the ultona in 1918 they went over to an oval horn design, but not wanting to waste cabinets already made they outfitted the sqaure horn cabinets with the ultona. I'd put this model right at 1919. Brunswick started off as a billiards company but by the early 1900s became a major general manufacturer. Not just making phonographs, but tires, toilet-seats and bowling balls. (For which many know Brunswick today.) For acoustic phonographs you’re intended to change to a new needle after almost every play, the more often you change the needle it'll cause less wear on the records. Be cautious playing later 40s records on acoustic machines, they wear down much faster. By the mid 30s they started removing abrasive materials in records designed to wear down the tips on steel needles, and by the early 40s grooves are redesigned for lighter pickups. Steel needles can start cutting into 40s records pretty badly after the fourth/fifth play. (Acoustic machines are really only designed for records before the 1930s, mainly acoustically recorded.) If you haven't checked out the R. J. Wakeman book on Brunswick's acoustic machines, I highly recommended it!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben, I appreciate the info, the only reason I thought it was the 7 was because I saw pictures of it in a catalog, and knew that it was likely an early one with no medallion, model 75 it is then, thank you!
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you invited us into your house RON.. To listen to the shared moment..
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome sound..reminds me of when my grandparents were still around..grandad would always have his music on.. sitting in his favourite chair..smoking his pipe..talking about the war and the depression..miss the old coot😆
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
He knew how to live because he’d seen people die
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade oh absolutely..forgot half the stuff he told me
@miguelrios4602
@miguelrios4602 2 жыл бұрын
Dag, hears youse both! :)
@gregoryschmidt1233
@gregoryschmidt1233 2 жыл бұрын
This was part of a 4-disc set of "theme songs", released by Columbia in 1941. Each orchestra or big band would have their unique theme song, usually played as an intro and outro for their radio broadcasts. For the Raymond Scott Orchestra, it was "Pretty Little Petticoat" and for Harry James, it was "Ciribiribin" (chee-ree-bee-ree-been), based on an Italian ballad. Audiences of the day would be able to instantly recognize an orchestra by their theme song.
@tangothecat237
@tangothecat237 2 жыл бұрын
The sound is awesome. Can't be reproduced today with modern record system. Evething about it is beautiful.
@markjackson1444
@markjackson1444 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this video should be in black and white. The music made me feel like I was back to ‘the golden years of Hollywood’. Love this vid for a change to pinballs. Thanks Ronnie.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for listening Mark
@steamerbv
@steamerbv Жыл бұрын
The song is from 1940. Raymond Scott was a jazz innovator who started in the 1930s. A lot of his work got used by Warner Bros Animation in cartoons for decades. Tunes like Powerhouse and Toy Trumpet and Dinner Music for a Pack of Hungry Cannibals.
@DirtyRobot
@DirtyRobot 2 жыл бұрын
Before this technology people had sheet music and family members that could play instruments. Someone would have to go out and buy (you could get them delivered) the latest hot tune as a musical score. The family would then get together and perform it.
@joeygreenhaw8503
@joeygreenhaw8503 2 жыл бұрын
I have a similar player. They are so cool... amazing that, that was all we had back in the day...
@iamzed1
@iamzed1 2 жыл бұрын
The first song is by Raymond Scott. If you've ever watched old Warner Brothers Loony Tunes cartoons you've heard him before. Many snippets of his songs were turned into many of the common themes that were used in multiple cartoons. They released a CD many years ago of the original versions of the songs Warner Brothers cribbed from.
@DjResR
@DjResR 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome device and sound. YT already claimed 3 songs, glad it's still up._
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah isn't that crazy, I figured there's no way they'd recognize those songs...
@neilh2669
@neilh2669 2 жыл бұрын
Where do the capacitors go? 😜 Great video for New Year’s Eve, thanks for the listen! Hope you, Joe, Donnie and family all have a fantastic new year!
@flipflopsguy8868
@flipflopsguy8868 2 жыл бұрын
my grandfather was a furniture refinisher specialising in antiques and I would help him in the shop in the sixties when I was a kid and once he got a similar Phonograph and when we removed the turntable I found an old record that had slipped past to the bottom of the turntable box. It was a small 78 on CORONET records on side was TESORO MIO and the other is THE PREACHER AND THE BEAR. I still have it... Somewhere ?
@malcolmwatts2487
@malcolmwatts2487 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see & hear your 1917 Gramophone, looks a bit of a novelty thing but interesting and is a nice piece of working furniture to grace any living /bedroom, Thanks for sharing. I kind-of thought that a good business could be possible to re-issue "Shellac" 78s of 1960s, 70's, & 1980's or any later music so long as permission by the music owners is given to release their songs in limited numbers on 78 for a fee. Setting up and manufacturing shellac 78s to the highest quality will require some extraordinary effort. But rewards could be waiting. Sales of these newly issued 78s can be worldwide and after a few years effort build up a good customer base after which a 78rpm records society can be established. The society customers can then have the opportunity to vote and prepay for on what music songs they require, at a guess many will ask for The Beatles, Tamla Motown songs, Beach Boys & other major artists/big hits etc. There are many 78s collectors out there & if these shellac records are constantly maintained to be of the very highest quality sound & appearance issued in strict limited editions no more than 2500 each title the records will be highly desirable to own and will also almost become instant collectables meaning a good investment to anyone when re-selling. But very important that the society members must have first refusal to any titles available. If I had the funds I would certainly enquire into a possible venture into this. Re-issue 78s made from vinyl will be seen as some kind of gimmick, non authentic & as a business interest maybe unlikely to succeed due to being pointless as most buyers of shellac will want to play them of gramophones or as investments due to them issued as limited editions. The above is just my opinion but the demand for shellac 78rpm records must be there for 1960s & later music. M
@bhuff123
@bhuff123 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad to see that you have some old tech in your house not all new
@katenunyabizness9221
@katenunyabizness9221 2 жыл бұрын
She sounds lovely! I've a stack of 78s that were my dad's including one of his high school marching band which has him doing a clarinet solo on the B side. I've a box of 18s as well.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot about the 18's!
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow nice!
@TheGramophoneGirl
@TheGramophoneGirl 2 жыл бұрын
OMG we've got one very very similar to this in our family over in the UK. It still plays, though does need winding a little more than it should.
@shawndickmann8215
@shawndickmann8215 2 жыл бұрын
A pretty little ditty of a song. Thank you.
@dazdaz105
@dazdaz105 2 жыл бұрын
What a sound. Reminds me of the old Laurel & Hardy movies 👍
@miguelrios4602
@miguelrios4602 2 жыл бұрын
Where’s the coin mech? Great… thanks! Happy to you and yours!!!
@martynhaywood7442
@martynhaywood7442 2 жыл бұрын
Very good I have got two Elvis 78s
@richardfavreau3011
@richardfavreau3011 2 жыл бұрын
Love the music
@mcostafernando
@mcostafernando 2 жыл бұрын
Both the phonograph and the songs are beautiful! Happy new year!
@Newberntrains
@Newberntrains 2 жыл бұрын
Lol as you played that last foxtrot record all i could think of was a old 1950s house. Camera panning thru the kitchen slowly Pastel cored appliances and everyone running in panic as the nukes get dropped Still a pretty cool little machine that it makes sound on its own from stored mechanical energy
@TheDarksage1978
@TheDarksage1978 2 жыл бұрын
Grandmother had or has one of these in her basement, I remember the records she had were super thick. Still was fun to listen to and interesting how it worked without electricity. There's something super satisfying about the quality of audio that comes from one of these as well!
@theoldbigmoose
@theoldbigmoose 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful walk down memory lane. Thank you for recording this!
@peter486
@peter486 2 жыл бұрын
looking forward to more videos next year form the best channel on KZfaq ps you are right about restoring old things and how the people that made the music are no longer here, but we still get to listen to them that's pretty Amazing. One of the reason i Love looking at your Arcade repair videos is because those games are are apart of my childhood (very happy and safe place) and they sparked my interest for game design and Design in general Happy new year Lads.
@jrumiano
@jrumiano 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, Thanks. Happy New Year!
@paulsworkshop4179
@paulsworkshop4179 2 жыл бұрын
Just great technology and great music! Happy New Year!
@bobmonzo3137
@bobmonzo3137 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a beauty Ron. Happy New Year.
@vhm14u2c
@vhm14u2c 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful piece of history Ron! Thanks for sharing!
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously thanks Ron.. Happy New year to your family and friends.. And everyone in the comment section. And everyone subscribe to this channel.. HAPPY NEW YEAR. AND FINGERS CROSSED THAT 2022 IS MUCH BETTER.. HOPEFULLY.
@66skate
@66skate 5 күн бұрын
I saw one of these on Facebook Marketplace. It's missing the grill cloth. I knew there must have been something there. Now I Know.
@simondempsey1
@simondempsey1 2 жыл бұрын
Its a nice piece of furniture as well as a phonograph player. Happy New Year to to yourself and all your family. Its been a fuuny old year but your videos have helped us all through it. I'd rather watch your channel than whats on the telly!
@cameron8238
@cameron8238 2 жыл бұрын
I am surprised Shazam came up with twilight time so quick when I ran it thinking it wouldn't. Sounds cool. Thanks for sharing. Happy new year
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 2 жыл бұрын
I have alot of my grandad's records like Irving Berlin and George Gershwin..I specially like Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
He wrote “summertimmmmeere and the livvvving is easssssyyyyy” too
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade summertime..I'm sure that's the one Billie Holiday sang, I like her song Strange Fruit..very eerie
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I love 78 records because it gives a snapshot of what was happening in music before. Jazz and blues start breaking out.. and then the invention of rock and roll.. It's so simple and great but underneath something was brewing.. And yes let's not ignore the blatant racism.. But really with music everything about to coalesce into a big explosion of music.. Jazz blues country then rock and roll.. Seriously what you have is a snapshot.. of what was about to happen.. before the big bang. That really introduced music..
@akshonclip
@akshonclip 2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Years Ron. 🎇
@svgalib
@svgalib 2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year! Very cool series! I love the rotating tone arm head. I have a Columbia which is much simpler and not flexible. I do have a few of the 100yr old records, mostly opera or orchestra. It’s interesting that the back side is blank/smooth. They are also bigger, like the full size of your platter. They play softer since the were also not recorded with electricity. Greg
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
I've got one platter like that, I thought maybe it was supposed to use the 'diamond' stylus that you put down sideways but I haven't played it yet....
@MasterSgtSlappy
@MasterSgtSlappy 2 жыл бұрын
"It is immortality of a sort." -some old book by Glen Cook
@Thenerdbeast
@Thenerdbeast 2 жыл бұрын
dang I didn't think anything like that would still work I had to fight to get my 1939-41 Stranton record/radio restored and working. So cool to see/hear in action Happy New year look forward to seeing what your working on next.
@Zerbey
@Zerbey 2 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of an old 78, by the way you can reuse those needles several times just be careful not too many or you'll damage the old record. You can also resharpen them a few times with a soft file.
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 2 жыл бұрын
And fix the original speaker grill with the right cloth.. Now you have two. And depending on your mood.. They're interchangeable.. Right on.
@42.0fmthefever5
@42.0fmthefever5 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! ❤ 😍
@cklinejr
@cklinejr 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny my wife said “it’s kinda creepy” then you said the same thing. Great video, thanks for sharing.
@chrisingle5839
@chrisingle5839 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thought you might have played "Carolina in the Morning". But you can't beat Frankie Carsle, though I guess🙃
@mohankrishnasamy1456
@mohankrishnasamy1456 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. How old are you. Brother 🙌
@weegerri1sm
@weegerri1sm 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! ...and I thought I was retro! 😮
@neilmansfield8329
@neilmansfield8329 2 жыл бұрын
Happy NewYear
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Neil!
@acertainshape
@acertainshape 2 жыл бұрын
Most of those old 78s are made of shellac, which comes from bug excretions.
@jamesdye4603
@jamesdye4603 2 жыл бұрын
For all you young people, that skip is where "you sound like a broken record" comes from.
@appalachianmama3384
@appalachianmama3384 11 ай бұрын
I listen to ours when the electricity is off. It's s a Brunswick.
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 2 жыл бұрын
In a new year.
@ronaldkrisher3685
@ronaldkrisher3685 2 жыл бұрын
Hope I'm still groovin at 100.
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit 2 жыл бұрын
The Raymond Scott record is from 1940, according to Google. On Jan 1st 2022 (which is tomorrow as I write this), audio recordings from 1923 and earlier will become Public Domain. That means it'll take SEVENTEEN more years (plus one day) before you can legitimately play that record on KZfaq. Isn't that just awesome (not). I didn't look up the other records but guess what, even if the recording is out of copyright, record companies probably re-issued them later, so KZfaq might block them anyway based on the re-release dates. Such a shame that so much art is getting destroyed by greed.
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 2 жыл бұрын
Hodelayeehoo 🐓
@justjoe942
@justjoe942 2 жыл бұрын
Are there 'purely mechanical' pinball machines? Clue me in.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Yes there are. All the original ones were, they don't have much going on, you just shoot the ball into the playfield and it lands in some holes, when you put the nickel in or whatever coin the action of the slide going back to take your coin drops all the balls down into the trough so you can shoot them. Some of them had a battery so lights would come on when you landed in certain holes, then you went over to the attendant, and if you had 'won' he'd count the lights or whatever and pay you or give you a free game, or whatever. They're pretty fascinating! I've got one of those at home too i'll fix up one of these days and do videos of. The electric machines didn't come around until the mid 30's
@joeygreenhaw8503
@joeygreenhaw8503 2 жыл бұрын
BTW....been using your Amazon link for months now. When do I win a astroids cocktail system....... Lol...
@grenick85
@grenick85 6 ай бұрын
Does anyone have any idea what one of these would be worth roughly? Cant find any info on value at all. Have the chance to get my hands on one at the moment.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 6 ай бұрын
Usually you can pick one up for between $50 and $100 depending on how nice the finish is on the cabinet. Some of the victrolas that are more ornate and really nice, if they're in very nice shape, might bring more like $300.
@sillypiled
@sillypiled Жыл бұрын
i am sitting infront of one right now
@chrisschauer9878
@chrisschauer9878 2 жыл бұрын
Can you play newer records as well?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
You can play any 78's but if they're new 78's they'll be made of vinyl, which the needle will destroy. So it kind of has to be the older style with the thick laquer or shellac platters...
@01chippe
@01chippe 2 жыл бұрын
The records you are playing should not be played on this player. These records were made for the newer “light” pickups with diamond tipped needles. Earlier shellac discs had hard material ground into the shellac so the needles would wear down, not the records. By this time, that material was removed, so the steel needles are not wearing down like they should.
@mikejohns3104
@mikejohns3104 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I just warped here from the 1920's as a 40 something with Alzheimers since birth.
@pip5528
@pip5528 Жыл бұрын
Normally I would cringe at touching the playing surface but you had one hand so I understand your options are limited. Yeah, that first record is pretty contemporary as shellac 78s go. That label would've dated it between roughly the late 30s and early to mid 40s, electrically recorded of course. That machine is too old for electrically recorded records since it was made before 1925 and doesn't have an Orthophonic or similar reproducer by the looks of it. That's why you have so much distortion. The loudness is really a problem with 1950 and later, even on my HMV 102 with a No. 5B soundbox which is an Orthophonic type.
@thedinobros1218
@thedinobros1218 9 ай бұрын
If I was you, I would never play a record on a Brunswick unless it is from the Brunswick label, there is just too much risk with vertical and lateral and how the speed can be stuck as high as 80 rpm.
@lileveretteyoakumiii
@lileveretteyoakumiii 2 жыл бұрын
Yodelayheehoo
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 2 жыл бұрын
Really would it be funny when you set the needle down.. It Starts singing. I DON'T.... WANT TO SET THE WORLD.. ON FIRE. Then you suddenly scratch. oh wait.. That's obviously way too 4th wall breaking.. Happy New year RON JHON and the other brother I can't remember the name my bad.. To all the brothers of the Lions arcades repair.. including all members of unsubscribe channel universe.. and comment section.. Let's just hope 2022 it's so much better for everyone.. Than 2020 and 2021.. What a 2 years of train wrecks.. As Ron would say.. COME ON PEOPLE.. WE COULD DO BETTER. I mean really.. COME ON PEOPLE.. What the f*** people. Come on.. LET'S ALL DO BETTER NOW. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.. AND HOPEFULLY A BETTER TOMORROW.
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