Arms Race is fun though

you missed the funnier part of jacks dialogue where he says something along the line of "stop painting tattoos on dead chicks and sending them in, there are only 6 sirens and the odds that you just ran into a dead one are pretty slim" not quite exactly the words but its been a while, just remember laughing every time he said the line

I just realised, the fact that jack interacted with US so much was one of the many reasons he was such a good villain. He talked shit, he came to us. You could’ve had the opposite with the twins, they’re streamers, they have fans and forums. Imagine across the game being able to comment on their livestreams talking shit, literally being a hatewatcher.

In Borderlands 3 the villains were Twitch streamers so in the next game the villains will be KZfaq game reviewers but at the end the real villain will be the owner of a social media site named eHX.

The one thing I can't forgive the authors is killing Lilith and Maya and giving us Ava in return. I mean killing Lilith AND Maya? What have I ever done to deserve this? And why isn't anyone at least a little bit sympathetic for the people of Elpis? Not even Lilith or Claptrap who have been there. Crappy writing! 😒

The craziest thing about the presequel is that the one dlc it did get is arguably the best DLC in any borderlands. That game is so underrated it’s criminal

I can defemd troy put off the two twins. They just dropped all potential with him when he was like turning against tyreen for like two seconds, then dropped all that when HE STILL GAVE HER POWER BEFORE DYING?? Troy could've started off as an annoying dumb streamer nockoff and then after his chat with you, got more defiant, did things on his own. Had more quipy dialogue with you, and the became a pretty good villain in the end by betraying tyreen and stealing her power

I like Typhon DeLeon because he's exactly what I'd expect from a Pandoran. And also I like the idea of him as the template for future vault hunters. His feats are ridiculous. The future Vault Hunters also do ridiculous things. They save Mercenary Day. They deface Handsome Jack statues with a constructor. They try to impress Scooter's cousin with pizza. Vault Hunters are badasses and weirdos.

What I primarily dislike about the villains: They seem to have gained some kind of omnipotence relatively early in the story, sucking people dry, stealing siren powers, effortlessly teleporting hordes of bandits across planets with the snap of a finger, turning important story characters into literal nonexistence, and magically kidnap others away without even being physically present. Suspension of disbelief goes a long way: But I can't disbelieve my way out of that. They are constantly commenting on how I keep killing their followers and sound totally pissed about it. Why am I, as their mass-murdering main source of problems, not simply snatched away and instakilled? Why do they not take the Sanctuary III and just phase it into a rock for funsies? Why are they not using their powers and get rid of the Crimson Raiders? There is NOTHING stopping them, and it's so painfully obvious. It's just story BS. Massive, gaping plot holes abound. I can get behind enemies with plot armour, but it's getting mighty uncomfortable when I'm seemingly the one wearing it. And no, I will not accept answers like "they were playing the big brain 5D chess because they want you to kill their followers for some super smart reason" -> no, they were NOT. No excuse for terrible writing. With Borderlands 2, there were several believeable reasons why Jack didn't just bombard you into oblivion: 1. Most of the time, he probably didn't even know exactly where you were. 2. He has no magic powers - he has a space station with a few mortars, which have to be adjusted precisely in order to deal damage to such a small target as you. Mortar strikes are also too costly to be fired on a whim. 3. Sanctuary was protected by a shield: The second it went down, he did rain hellfire on it. Then Lilith phased Sanctuary away, promising she could do it at any given point. Jack, unable to ascertain the veracity of her words as he knows exactly how powerful a cracked-out Siren can be, decided to fall for the bluff. There's simply no way he could possibly obliterate you the way the Calypsos can do, as he was just a dude with a giant corporation. And said corporation already gives you one helluva fight down on Pandora.

I’ve played through this game over 20 and I’ve never realized typhon died until now

As someone who has loved Borderlands since the second game this is a great video😂 this is great quality man i hope your content gets more recognition 🙏

One thing from Borderlands 4 I want is of course the extra skill tree dlc we got for Borderlands 3, and extra vault hunters. (And they need a better villain. A REAL VILLAIN)

THERE'S A DIALOGUE SKIPPING MOD!?!?! aight i'm boutta reinstall

3:20 bro fym "outdated" it's still today a pretty good reference

the quality of this video is stellar man keep it up

Talking about visual overload, when I would play this game on the ps4 electric effects would freeze the console lol

Great video LockeJohn Ex! Happy to see people are still enjoying Borderlands 👍

Why didn't you just fast travel to the nearest checkpoint when you were stuck inside the minecart

ok the mission reward legendary was actually kind of hilarious. ill give you that one. I dont mind the legendary drop rates in BL3 at all simply because i dont play video games like i used to when BL first dropped, so i like getting useable guns during my playthrough and not having to farm my life for something on a game i play a couple of hours a week if im lucky. HOWEVER i was very sad they got rid of Pearls and other rarities, because on the off chance i had time to farm a god roll/pearl, id definitely like that challenge of something even more bad ass to be available with a bit of a grind. I dont think that appeasing the hardcore crowd should equate to punishing the casual group, and of course vice versa. i think 3s humor was on point at the most random of times, but the story itself really was lacking, course they robbed us of scooters death in the main games and other events that i had no clue of because i also didnt play battle for sanctuary as i had stopped playing bl2 by like 2015-2016 the latest. but yeah the games solid, but still has its rough areas. all aside good video dude!

To be fair typhon was originally going to be played by the trash man himself Danny Devito but be declined so they worked with what they had

great video production!

Great video essay 👏 can't wait for your Borderlands 4 video essay 🙌 😂

I love the new borderlands games, (Not new tales) I just wish bl3 took its writing seriously. Or showed it’s characters any stretch of respect.

I think it would’ve been really cool if jack had a kid with a siren but he was the first siren male and he grew up to get revenge for you killing his father. Maybe I’m grasping at straws but handsome jack was just too good to just throw away.

Borderlands 3 is achingly unfunny and most of the new characters are beyond insufferable. As someone who loved borderlands 2 mainly for the humour and atmosphere, BL3 killed my passion for the series. Even more so when they get backlash for how they handled Maya's death and funeral, and then proceeded to release story boards which hugely added to the depth and development of Ava especially, only to leave us all scratching our head and asking ourselves why the heck they didn't include it in the actual game! Such a dumb decision not to try and get back the writers of the previous game, and also to give us a narcissistic little witch, who has no redeeming character traits, and is way more important to the story than the player, who in-turn is left to clean up all the messes that the pint-size angst generator leaves in her wake. That's not even mentioning the Twins of Cringe... Never had my hope for a game crushed harder. Thanks, Gearbox.

nice video essay bro

I remember when I first saw borderlands at the local video store... I never knew the game I rented because "cool mask guy" on the box, would have me captivated for 20+ years. Sure, I never started on one, but from the moment I got my first crit in the game and saw those numbers... I was never leaving until I saw ALL the numbers, and even then I'd have to be pried away from the game. I hope the next title is just as good as two was.

Bro only 275 subs is crazy this is a great quality video and i can tell the passion and love u have for this bro keep up the great and hard work bro happy thanks giving

Typhon sounds like he works in the auction house in Orgrimmar

i just started uvhm on borderlands 2 and the story is far better than borderlands 3 but the gameplay doesnt compete, no build variety kinda sucks too and uvhm reliance on slag just blows and my god the speed at which u level up until uvhm is ridiculous, borderlands 8 would be out by time i hit max level....i got friends with maxed characters and they cant play with me on my level 56 because it makes enemies level 80.,....if borderlands 4 is a combo of 2 and 3 i think we will be happy, take the best from both

Some day I'll finish a playthrough. And then someday I'll have to do on TVHM, heck damn. Can't I just skip to playing DLCs? Wish there was option to just skip over the whole damn terrible main campaign.

I just go through hell replaying the entire series with a group of my friends, and suddenly I get recommended this video? It must be fate.

love this video essay

Really good video.

this was enjoyable, thanks

Its been a week that I started to replay all borderlands game, I'm at bl2 at the moment

Good video man

I love borderlands 2, but after going back to the first one, that’s my favorite atmosphere. It was so dark and gritty and just…idk tough. The writing was way darker that had comic relief instead of just dark humor all the time. I hope they bring back the writers from the first game if/when they make borderlands 4….but I’m going to wait for the reviews first. How they handled tiny Tina’s wonderlands doesn’t give me much hope….

Hearing all that BL2 music makes me wanna play BL3's dlcs 2nite.

i just started playing borderlands 3 3 weeks ago and finished last night, it was fun ngl, it was free last may 2022 on epic game store

you should definitely play the dlcs for the story those gave, akso for the ppint abt vault hunters not being regular people im p sure in bl1s intro cutscene marcus talks abt telling children storries abt the vaukts making it make a little more sense why someone completely normal might try to hunt for a vault

i found buff to be a super underrated character that i came across randomly, he had funny dialogue

There better not be any Scott the woz slander, man’s a gem

The orphanage part I can slide but the puppies😂

great video

We gonna have to talk about some of your takes on this. More vault hunters and neat and Ultimate Vault Hunter mode is crazy good

THANK YOU KZfaq RECOMMENDED

do u guys know how to stop the multiplayer lag? ive got good connection and so does my friends but it always lags for the pp whos joining

The only reason why I wanted more vault hunter dlc is bcz I didnt click at all with neither of the ones we have

I was with the same feeling as you I played BD2 and loved it but recently started playing BD3 I am lvl 12 opening gold chests are fun and the guns are OP

Borderlands is its own category of game, but completely priceless.

My main gripe is the stuttering issues due to shader compilation on the PC version. I have a damn RTX 4070, a Ryzen 5 and an NVMe and I still suffer from it. Wonderlands barely had that issue.

The thing is almost all the legendaries that world drop about 10-15% of them are actually good. Cough cough HELLWALKER. Most legendaries that are good you gotta farm them from dedicated sources.most of them you can get easily but then you have a gun like the blood starved beast where you have to farm one of the most annoying bosses in the game

Me and my friend completed the game and brainstormed on how to make tyreen a bit and we concluded with one idea. Instead of making her "the bandit queen" twitch streamer, why not make her the "vault hunter" twitch streamer. Have her before joining the crimson raiders, be this siren who hunted vaults and live streamed her experience doing that, showcasing artifacts and showing her destroying the guardians. Shes the top streamer on the echonet and everyone loves her, even some of the characters you talk to. Then lilith shows up, lets her join the crimson raiders (because shes a siren and we need all sirens for the big war, shes experienced, and can be good PR for the raiders), and shes a constant character in the story. She starts off annoying, but then you work with her, you do quests with her, she shares guns with you, you give her guns, she shares story about her life and experience and let you be close to her. You could even have her interact with the characters in sanctuary wether it be - lilith keeping a leash on her and being neutral, - tannis annoyed by her constant streaming, - ellie being kind to her but tyreen disliking her because shes from pandora and was in a bandit family, - ava being a fangirl, - moxxie knowing her facade and figuring out what her real plans are, - marcus finding her annoyed but charmed (proabably because shes a customer and buys/sell guns like the VH), - claptrap being claptrap - maya hating her being that she treats her powers like its a toy and not being zen with it. You can have troy be the bandit leader of the COV and always be in your face like jack. "The pretty boy of bandits" as people call him. Then have the storyline be that everyone is trying to open the vaults up from the lowest of bandits to the highest of CEO executives. Then you find out that not only can they not open the vaults, but there is already someone who opened them up, killed the guardians, and taken the artifacts (or just killed the guardians). Now you have the mystery of whos really opening the vaults, with the main culprit being troy. Despite being the leader of some small order of bandits in the backwater planet of pandora, he somehow is able to have malawian dropships, dahl gunships, hyperion loaders, atlas tech, and jackobs guns. He somehow got artifacts of the vault and is able to manifest the powers of the vault despite not being a siren himself. So you continue finding vaults, killing COV, and SHOCKERS! Maya is kidnapped, the COV raided the ship using siren powers and took maya away. You are back on pandora, on a mad dash to save maya, all the while troy is about to use her for her powers and to open a special vault to become god. You face him and sadly before you can stop him, he killed maya. You are mad, filled with rage, taking troy down as the "final boss" and you did. You and the crew finally stopped the mad plans of troy until you and everyone else gets phaselocked, you turn around and only see tyreen, walking to get the powers of the destroyer be the new god queen. She was the one who helped troy, she was the one who made deals with malawian, She teleported the COV in the ship, She worked with aurellia (or some other CEO noble type because that was some serious character assassination), she let athenas be raided, she gave the powers to the COV, she was the one who raided the vaults, she knew that troy was gonna use her as a battery because he wanted be more than her lapdog, so she tricked him into getting maya. She always hated that princess of a siren. Now she has the power and will be the new god of the universe. She always felt weak when she was in nekradefayo, always hated her father keeping her safe and never able to use her powers. She hated troy and the bandits they joined up with. Always living in squalor, their true strengh hidden because of petty squabbles and dumb ideals. Her brother being nothing more than a parasite, always sucking up to the leader until he made his untimeley dimise by getting crushed by a "magical hydralic press". She wanted to be a streamer, to be admired by the lowley peasants across the universe; to not just be loved, but feared because of her powers. Thats why she admires the CEOs of the big gun manufacturers. Men and women with no powers and yet somehow able to wrap the world around their fingers. Like a certain handsome man back in the day. Now she has it, the power of the destroyer. And the war of the vaults has begun. All hail god queen tyreen, the destroyer. If thats not a good ass villain, i dont know what is.

Cant lie New character says something stupid - "Man this dialogue sucks" Torgue says something stupid - "Someone got paid extra for his dialogue" Consistency

Couldn’t think it could get any better, then Cyberpunk happened and we hit the pinnacle!

Personally I would love to see a remake of either BL1 or 2, Hell even TPS, in the BL3 engine. We get the good story and characters back, but while keeping the newer, smoother gameplay. Win-win.

I actually bought the upgraded version pre-order, I don’t regret it but it was a bad decision

1:51 I WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT BUT THAT MADE ME LAUGH 19:34 I for some reson I don't remember that being there

I always wonder if typhon is the first vault hunter then his older than Marcus dad?

I got it when it was on sale too on Steam. But not just the core game, the DLC as well. Gameplay is fun...but that's it.

Seeing the green tree fully filled up causes me pain

"It was on sale" 😂😂 can't deny something on sale hahaha

I'm a huge fan of BL. I was so hyped for BL3, when it first released I got every VH to max level at the time, essentially 8 campaign runs back to back, the writing gave me some kind of BL3 PTSD, where I have tried and failed to return to the game dozens of times because they throw the story at you and there's so much forced story telling. In BL2 I can speak to the NPC and run off while they speak, in BL3 I have to stand there. I wish they added more VHs, because they're a reason for players to return. I'll give the dialog skip mod a go, else it's back to 2 for me.

19:33 here its supposed to drop this exact legendary

i mean i think people said from the beginning this is the game that will take place BEFORE the war. hell the watchers tell you so.

Snow is totally cold sand

good job

tbh i dont mind ava as much as others seem to. shes written like a kid bc she is one. id get how it could get under some peoples skin but tbh i just see her becoming leader and maturing and growing into her role. i think itd be really good character development. i get ppl bummed about lilith and maya but tbh i am sure theyll still be involved in some way, esp given the new tales game and the reviving crystal thing.

Had hundred of hours in bl1 and played with randoms got a glitch player that let me unlock every skill in all the trees and a op alien gun that was great times

The problem with TPS and BL3 is they went right past quirky and straight to cringe. With BL1 and BL2 there was enough serious to balance but with TPS and BL3 it was constant "LOL I'm so random" that I was making the Sideshow Bob steps on a rake noise every 5 minutes. And can we throw the brat out an airlock for the start of BL4 please? I'll buy day 1 if the first mission is a multiple choice kill the brat mission.

Its interesting to hear a fan of the series talk about the finished product of bl3, i was a day 1 player and it was a bad launch. The loot system was more akin to the presequel with a lack of dedicated sources, back then it was just grave ward farming. I think there is alot the game has to offer, with great high points, but i theres too much filler/crap to make it as replay-able as bl2

I have 4 days game time. I can’t remember a single time I had fun playing bl3, it’s such a slog

good video, defs subbed. did you do a dlc video?

I only just bought this in 2024. Between the bugs (Game keeps giving PC error messages every time I turn off my Xbox and resume gameplay), the unfinished parts (reversed textures, such as boxes with text on them, books, low/high res textures on books randomly, etc) and the lack of easy to understand DLC (Wtf Is a season pass?), I just bought the game with the first 3 pieces of DLC and played it through once. As console now charges us to play online, I didn't bother with that (and as such, I couldn't play any of the extra "challenge" missions as they were too hard), which is in contrast to playing BL1 - TPS on my PS3 online. Krieg's extra "shoot crappy energy things" missions were FAR too hard, so they were the only ones in the entire game I didn't bother with. Then, the extremely boring missions (with some sidequests sending you right back to the area you just came from, in order to respawn all the enemies for no reason), the awful writing, bugged map (showing [ ! ] icons that disappear when you fast travel to the map location, and loads of other issues all came together to convince me that I'm never buying another Borderlands game ever again. Randy Pitchford treated his staff badly and people left. This really shows in the final product and they've lost a considerable part of their fanbase now.

You should do a run with only using guns rewarded from side quests

I WOULD SIT THERE AND LISTEN TO BL2 BADLANDS MUSIC JUST SIT I LOOOVVEEE ITTT

Complimentary engagement

everything after the fight for sanctuary not counting op 10 was a strait L for gearbox

i played it once on release date on ps4, and picked up the steam version last month for 9$ and season pass 1 for 14$ story was bad but gameplay is amazing. already got 3 characters at max level

Funny you bring up the "assassinate the assassins" side quest. Totally ignored in bl3🙄

I know it's more could have/would have/should have, but, man. The shtick that Typhon isn't the person that the legends build him up to be COULD have worked. They should have leaned into the false impression and had him look really cool and sound cool. Have the initial logs he makes be real and genuine feats he completed that he's genuinely proud of. But as you go deeper and deeper into the game, he starts sounding remorseful and confessing the legends aren't what they were cracked up to be. A monster he "effortlessly" beat, he actually lost a good friend in the fight. A treacherous landscape he crossed without injury? He got injured and supported by a local that helped him the rest of the way, together. Emphasize that lots of his adventures he couldn't do alone, that he had people he could rely on and a goal in mind. And every step where he was out of his depth, he had friends to keep him above water. The heart of the subversion is still there, while tying it back to the core theme that Vault Hunters are a collective that support each other. That way the Vault Hunter can feel a connection to him even before you meet and maybe it would actually mean something when he dies. Lilith's sacrifice also needs to make sense. There's no reason they couldn't have used all 3 Sirens in that scene and Amara too, since the Vault Hunters have negative amounts of relevance in the main story.

Honestly, that reminds me of that time when Mass Effect Andromeda was announced. I was giga hyped at that point, even though I had jurassic park era ancient PC that couldn't possibly play this game. Then I've got a new laptop, played through Andromeda after it got released and it was a giant disappointment as well

Borderlands 3 commits both of my cardinal gaming sins. Invulnerable periods in boss battles to waste the players time, and long dialogue you can't skip (that also demands you interact with the npc after) solely to waste the players time. Borderlands 3 actively does not respect your time as a player. It FULLY intends to waste as much of your time as possible.

Just finished tiny tinas it’s so fun

I love Anthony Burch and his work, it surprised me to find out so many people hate him for so many reasons. He was even the target of a shitty 4chan meme many years ago.

flamerock refuge is a 10/10 theme

I don't agree with everything but it's a good video, it surely deserves more views

BL4, my thoughts on character design should kinda be like Sunset overdrive. Let me explain, with Sunset overdrives character customization and the already known war that SHOULD BE the story of BL4 (Just end the story there), we could have a feeling of a character that is more so "us". The character types will have their voice lines, keeping it to just four. Then, use the class system in the Tiny Tina game. (Note: I have yet to ever play it to this day. If yall could give me some reasons to, I would gladly check it out.) With all these pieces in play, you could still have amazing writing and amazing gameplay. I think that would be cool. Two female types and two male types.

I dont love to hate jack, i just love jack he was by far the best antagonist and one that you could sympathize with. (After you know his back story)

254 hours on steam BL3 alone... not even counting when the game came out and i played it on ps4, almost religiously, STILL the amount of "chubby" enemies ive encountered i can count on a SINGLE HAND. Me and my friend both played BL3 when it came out, both cooped the story together and by the end of it i asked him, "Bro, didnt you think Troy should have had a little more, like a BIGGER boss battle out of him in the end would have been cool?" And he said "yeah, i liked him a lot actually, totally seemed like he was supposed to be the one who betrays." And i honestly feel like that just says it all there.

Great video! I can forgive the cringe writing and frankly flat 2 dimensional characters, but what really killed it for me was the endless nerfs gearbox rolled out with every single patch from release. Legitimately every single early patch was making player characters worse, if this was some kind of hyper competitive PvP shooter it could be understood. It's not though, and that's what killed it for me. I recall playing one day, going to work, coming home to an update, and after the update they'd nerfed my Flak build by killing the returned ammo on critical hit perk by making it only one return instance per second or some nonsense. Thus killing the ammo economy of the Vladof minigun style rifle I was using. I put the game down after that and frankly never picked it back up. Borderlands has always had a core mechanic of ridiculous damage numbers and loot pinatas. They may have gotten the loot part, but adding things like invulnerability cycles on bosses and constant player character nerfs really drove home how little they cared about the player base. As a diehard Borderlands fan, (I even enjoyed Battleborn!) I do hope they make another game, maybe focusing on a different part of the galaxy or something. Start fresh, make new legends, the potential is there after all. Cheers!

I bought bl3 ultimate edition twice because of epic, now i have it on ps4 and steam pog

I genuinely enjoyed BL PreSequel. My friends and I really loved these games.

Bro they should've made the first vault hunter Scott the woz

It's wishful thinking but not addressing the impact and/or legacy of Handsome Jack in BL3 is clearly missed opportunity I get that probably they didn't want to write Handsome Jack forever but when you write such an iconic and important role character in a universe, its almost impossible to not have them ripple effects even after their death.

borderlands 3 end game be like nah lol

Id say typhon being who he is was the thing that subberted expectations, i genuinely adore him

Is there a mod that overhauls the entire script for this game yet?

Sorry why can I not call this a video essay?